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Hello, Green Squares, and

welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions
. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a

discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! -- Scarpy (talk) 20:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

Rape of Europa

Hi. This is not a very helpful link. Please take a look at

third opinion, but my experience here tells me that these links are not usually kept. --Rodhullandemu 14:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

AfD nomination of Herrenvolk

Herrenvolk, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herrenvolk. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? --Latebird (talk) 06:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Undid changes to Earnings quality

Hi Green Squares! I undid your changes to the article

Tan 00:47, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

Hi there, please see
Tan 11:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar. I really was not aiming for it when I wrote the article. Nice surprise. Dark hyena (talk) 16:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

dog fight videos

FYI - it doesn't matter where the servers are, it was illegal to show those videos in the United States. Like child pornogrpahy, it doesn't matter where the pornogrpahy originated, it is illegal to view or possess it in the US. However, last week, the Supreme Court overturned that law about animal fighting claiming that everyone has a first amendment right to see the videos. Nonetheless, they are still not appropriate as an external link on Wiki. Bob98133 (talk) 13:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I tagged this article as promotional in nature and recommended its immediate deletion. Lines like this troubled me:

  • "There is a reason for everything, and we always try to explain what that reason is."
  • "We hope as well that it will be useful to courts, especially when they have to deal with fundamental issues, and we have been delighted that it has been cited in a number of decisions of the Supreme Court of Canada."
  • "We have tried to avoid the complex abstractions with which the Income Tax Act is replete. Our language is as simple, concrete and non-technical as our capability and the nature of the subject permitted."

It seems you're either associated with the book yourself -- a clear conflict of interest -- or else you've copied this from somewhere -- a copyright violation. --A. B. (talkcontribs) 22:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page has been deleted. If you'd like to work on articles locally, you may wish to place them in your user sandbox
neutral point of view policy
(which is a requirement of all editors).
If you'd like to have the article text sent to you, let me know. Kylu (talk) 00:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article

Crossposted from user talk:Kylu

I posted

Nazi's, it is against the principles of Wikipedia to delete a valid article without first building a consensus. 01:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Squares (talkcontribs
)

Reverted your removal just now. Check out the actual text of {{hangon}} by the way:
The speedy deletion of this page is contested. The person placing this notice intends to dispute the speedy deletion of this article on this page's talk page, and requests that this page not be deleted in the meantime. Note that this request is not binding, and the page may still be deleted if the page unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria, or if the promised explanation is not provided very soon. This template should not be removed from a page still marked with a speedy deletion template.
See the "this request is not binding" bit? Yep.
You haven't yet mentioned why you think the book is notable enough for Wikipedia inclusion (does it meet the book notability requirements? Not from what I've seen...) nor why you don't possess a conflict of interest in posting information on a book you claim to have written. As it was written at the time of deletion, it was a pure ad for the book written in Author POV.
If you disagree with the opinions of myself and the tagging user, please feel free to request community input at
deletion review
. I'll copy this to your talkpage as well.
Oh, and, really, don't compare people to Nazis simply because you can't have your ad on the encyclopedia. Bad form. Kylu (talk) 01:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your Deletion Review case was closed. You may wish to review the discussion (click "show" on that page) to help improve future editing efforts. Thanks. Kylu (talk) 21:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Ottawa Humane Society

Wikipedia:Business' FAQ
for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. ShootinPutin109 01:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Ottawa Humane Society page

I'm attempting to provide accurate information in the entry and remove irrelevant links and accurate information on the OHS, which is not currently available in your article. TaraJottawahumane (talk) 20:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin Help

{{adminhelp}}

Hello, would you please advise where the policy is on an employee of an organization editing the article related to that organization? I assume it is not allowed at Wikipedia as it would not be NPOV. TaraJottawahumane above is an employee of the Ottawa Humane Society and is editing the said article. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 16:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Green Squares, regarding your question, possibly
WP:COI.--PhilKnight (talk) 17:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

After reviewing the articles history, it appears as if you are trying to assert

bitey. That is what is considered bad form. - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

It doesn't matter. Read
WP:COI as I suggested the first time. It doesn't say you cannot edit pages, it says to take caution when doing so. Of course, COI editing is discouraged, but not disallowed. - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
And, this accusation of "vandalism" was uncalled for. Perhaps you need to review
this as well. - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

The OHS just wants accurate information portrayed in the entry. We would rather have no article at all rather than one that is flawed. I'm unclear as to why GreenSquares is being so hostile, but I assume it is related to the similarly hostile e-mails he has sent to the OHS. This surely is a non-neutral POV. It's frustrating that his implied ownership of the site is resulting in any external edits being reversed almost immediately. TaraJottawahumane (talk) 18:55, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin Help iWar

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Can an administrator please move the article from IWar to iWar. The article IWar was already created as a #Redirect, so I could not create the correct title for the newly written article iWar. Thank you Green Squares (talk) 22:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added the {{
lowercase}} template, which seems to do the job. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
Hello again Green, I saw your comment about editing again and am still puzzled. I don't change English spelling into American and wasn't aware that there was 'Canadian spelling'. Keith-264 (talk) 22:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
volumNe - Ah! Now I understand. I thought it was a typo! Apologies. Keith-264 (talk) 07:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of List of Nintendo DS chess games

(Talk)  17:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Canadian spelling

Sorry, I speak 3 romance languages and none of them use that spelling. I didn't realize Canadian English (?) had such a feature. I did restore the defaultsort, which was the main reason for my editing the article. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 23:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although it doesn't appear in the OED...but then what do those limeys know eh? :) Her Pegship (tis herself) 03:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign Titles in the Books on Hitler Page

OK, why titles in Dutch and Icelandic, and not any of the hundred other languages with books on Hitler? How likely is it that an English-speaking reading will be interested? German, well, that makes sense, given the significant literature. I see no reason, however, to privilege Dutch and Icelandic.... Bytwerk (talk) 01:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But my question is still of what use will Dutch and Icelandic books be to the English-speaking reader? Wikipedia prefers English-language sources (for the English version, anyway). Should we add Bulgarian, Japanese, and Estonian books as well? The page could rapidly expand to interminable length. I'm not disagreeing that it makes sense to have a foreign language section, and I agree the German titles may be useful. But I didn't remove the foreign language heading. I removed those for Dutch and Icelandic. So again, what do books in Dutch and Icelandic do to strengthen the article? Bytwerk (talk) 12:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still asking the question: Why Icelandic and Dutch? Why not also add Bulgarian, Urdo, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, etc.? The point I am making is that it does no reader of the article any benefit to include obscure languages. Bytwerk (talk) 03:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Others may add the foreign language titles, but I'm asking why you think it is necessary to revert, say, Icelandic, just because someone else added it. What possible value does it add for the English-speaking reader? Bytwerk (talk) 01:42, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anderssen's grave

Another cemetary, see here: [1]. --DaQuirin (talk) 16:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anderssen's grave is in Wroclaw (of course). There are obviously two cemetaries with an identical Polish name. The Wroclaw one is the former Friedhof (cemetary) Oswitz, renamed after the war. --DaQuirin (talk) 17:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Arpad Elo

We appreciate your contributions to the article Arpad Elo, but for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, I removed your addition.

You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.


You might want to look at

Help Desk". You can also leave a message on my talk page.Jon513 (talk) 22:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

"Adolf Hitler books"

Hi. Thanks for your message informing me of your reversion. However, how can the name "List of Adolf Hitler books" be correct? "Adolf Hitler" is a (proper) noun, not an adjective. If you (or you think other people) aren't happy with "List of books by and about Adolf Hitler", how about "List of books relating to Adolf Hitler" or "List of Adolf Hitler-related books"..? (I'm not too keen on the latter, though).
I was also about to rename "List of Adolf Hitler speeches" to "List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler". Would that also prompt a reversion?
Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Okay, I've posted queries on both articles' talkpages. Sardanaphalus (talk) 00:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CoD5

I did not vandalize, the info you added is inappropriate for WP under

{Talk} 18:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

We can't leave the info in, it's specifically against the guidelines. If I hadn't reverted you, someone else would have for the same reasons. As far as I'm concerned, to have the info included, the burden would be on you to explain why we should go against
{Talk} 18:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

If you had looked at my edit on the talk page, you would have noticed that I did not remove your list (although it has no business being there, the list itself has no bearing on whether or not is should be included in the article). All I did was condense the list into a collapsible format so that it doesn't take up so much space. Aside from that, you did not have any reason to remove my comment there. Your reverting both things, however, is a mistake that can be overlooked; just make sure that next time you examine what you revert more closely. --

{Talk} 02:06, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

I have the right to delete information which is not valid. Talk page is not a forum and please stop entering game guide information. Read the

WP:GAMECRUFT or i can report you for disobeying the guidelines.--SkyWalker (talk) 07:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

video games

do u have cod4 --

talk) 19:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
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im looking for people to add on ps3 and play cod4 with them--

talk) 23:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
]


2nd Battle of Givenchy

In general, a look at any war memorial in a town that sent men to battalions in the 1st division of the Canadian Corps will list 'Givenchy' among the battle sites/honours.

However, references to the battle can be found on the following sites: CEF Research, Veteran's Affairs Canada, The Long, Long Trail to name a few... I've been meaning to post up a wiki page on 2nd Givenchy, but haven't found time to get round to it... near future I hope. Givenchy is ever remembered as the battle in which Canadian soldiers gave up on the

Ross Rifle
and began taking Lee Enfields off of their dead and wounded British comrades.

I hope that settles things - Whisky Whiskymack(talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar, GS! Save

Fort Madison Billwhittaker (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Hi post it on your user page and be proud, nice work ! Green Squares (talk) 21:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leptotyphlops carlae

Per

Wikipedia:MOS#Animals.2C_plants.2C_and_other_organisms, a capital initial letter is necessary for the genus. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Administrator

{{adminhelp}} Hello, at the article

Eunectes murinus an editor named User:Jwinius keeps moving the "also known as" from the first sentence, and floats it over the article. Would you please intervene. I believe the AKA should be in the first sentence, not floating on the top, that is where the "disambiguation" should go. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 15:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

I am sorry but admin intervention is not needed in this case. If you have a conflict with this editor, please try to talk to them. If this fails, please pursue
dispute resolution. Regards SoWhy 20:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
Hi Green Squares, I noticed you had changed the format of this article again and came here to explain. I thought my edit summary would explain things, but I guess not. Not long after I started editing Wikipedia's articles on snakes, I noticed that many species had many common names, but that Wikipedia did not have a satisfactory method for dealing with them systematically. So, I came up with this format, which I've applied to about 500 snake articles now. Please read this recent discussion. Cheers, --Jwinius (talk) 19:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
typically we put the common names in the first sentence of the article after "also known as" not on top, which is where the disambiguations go. Green Squares (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I'm well aware of that. Please read the link I gave you. (PS -- Please answer here, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my
watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 22:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Orphaned non-free media (File:Hk417.jpg)

You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media
).

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Chess sets

Regrettably, I've had to delete the articles you submitted today about chess sets, because you gave no indication of any type of notability whatsoever. If you wish to re-create the articles, I recommend that you include some content about why they matter. DS (talk) 01:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Here is the content of the four articles:

  1. "'The Selenus chess set is composed of a particular type of chess pieces used to play the game of chess."
  2. "The French Regence chess set is composed of a particular type of chess pieces used to play the game of chess."
  3. "The St. George chess set is composed of a particular type of chess pieces used to play the game of chess.", and
  4. "The 'Barleycorn chess set s composed of a particular type of chess pieces used to play the game of chess."

There is no content here. If these are actually notable, if they've genuinely been around for centuries, then you should say so from the very first edit. You should explain why they matter. You did not do that. But you can do it now. DS (talk) 01:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    • Yes, there is content and you also deleted the citations to each article and other information in the articles. These are stub +tag articles and there is room for them to ""Keep and Expand"", which is all that is required for an article at Wikipedia. Green Squares (talk) 01:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator

{{

adminhelp
}} Please put back the articles User:DragonflySixtyseven deleted. If he wants them deleted he can request an AFD like everyone else. The articles are: Selenus chess set, Barleycorn chess set, St. George chess set and French Regence chess set.

Thank you Green Squares (talk) 01:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please speak to him first, or request a
deletion review. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 01:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
I gave you the full content of your articles. There were no citations, only links to photos. Now you can expand them in your userspace before moving them out into mainspace. DS (talk) 01:30, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You want
Chillum 01:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Incivility

Please avoid personal attacks such as "over zealous admin dick named User:DragonflySixtyseven"; such incivility will not be tolerated. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How is Wikipedia any different than real life? For example, you wouldn't walk up to a stranger in the street and say "You're a dick", would you? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:57, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, but it's still considered uncivil to specifically address someone by calling them a dick. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Two wrongs don't make a right" –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
though I would never use the word "dick" myself in this context, I think it just might apply to admins who delete incomplete articles 5 minutes after they've been started. I would have used the entirely appropriate word "overzealous" and, in fact, I think I will go back to the Deletion review and add it to my comment. But GS, calling someone a "dick" does tend to make them angry and doesn't help things along--as you can see at the discussion there. DGG (talk) 15:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chess set articles

I support having the articles about the chess sets, if they can be expanded. However, please be civil to the admin

WP:civil. Bubba73 (talk), 02:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Looking at it as a third party, I think your general tone was angry and uncivil, e.g "Stop lying". Bubba73 (talk), 15:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As a supporter of undeleting these articles for process reasons, I do think you are hurting your cause by being uncivil. Take it down a few notches and things will more likely go your way. From a process viewpoint you are in the right, but people hate to reward uncivil behavior around here, so you might lose the issue on that basis alone. It likely shouldn't be that way, but there you are. Hobit (talk) 16:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen enough people around here with a similar attitude get banned from the site. I'd urge you to back off a bit. Obviously up to you. Hobit (talk) 16:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dear GS, Thank you for your invitation. My view is the same as that of Bubba73. Just calm down and put your obvious energy and intelligence into expanding the articles. Writtenright (talk) 16:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)Writtenright[reply]

User warning

talk) 21:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Reticulate python edits

Hi, I undid your edits to

Python sebae, the African rock python. The attack is already noted in that species' page. Mokele (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

2009 H1N1 flu outbreak

Thank you for all your hard work. WAS 4.250 (talk) 22:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response to your comment on my talk page

I have responded to you with important information relevant to your continued editing of Wikipedia, at [2]. —Centrxtalk • 01:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of 2009 swine flu outbreak in the United States

A

2009 swine flu outbreak in the United States
, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Redundant, already covered in article Swine Influenza.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's

its talk page
.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the

proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Portia327 (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

In good faith, I alerted the admins to what I thought was redundant article. The comment above that is attributed to me is an automatic template generated when I sent that alert, not written by me. I feel your comment on my Talk page, "It doesn't look like your foolish attempt to delete the article went very far...have fun! Green Squares (talk) 23:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)" is unhelpful and unnecessary. I'm trying to keep Wiki as accurate and concise as possible, just like you and every other editor. My alert was nothing personal and I ask that you reconsider your response. Portia327 (talk) 02:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting external links section

Could you explain your motivation for splitting the external links section on

2009 Swine flu outbreak in Canada? It creates an entry in the table of contents for no reason, and for such a small number of external links, seems entirely unnecessary. –xeno talk 23:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

The article is not necessarily "for Canadians" it is about an event in Canada. Splitting the external links section gives undue weight to Canadian external links, and is also unnecessary because it makes extra room on the table of contents when there are only 10 links in total. –xeno talk 13:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked for outside opinion here: Wikipedia talk:External links#Question on subheaders in the External links section. –xeno talk 14:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern tarantula

Would you please stop wholesale reversion of edits to the

Eastern tarantula article? If you want the second word in a spider's name lowercased, then go ahead by all means, but you also keep wiping out multiple corrections to units of measurement--e.g., "six hours" instead of "six-hours" and 3.28 feet for a meter instead of the incorrect "three-feet". JiveTalkinChoirBoy (talk) 11:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Admin help

I advised the new editor JiveTalkinChoirBoy to stop reverting his talk page as it is against Wikipedia rules. Would you please advise him to stop doing that, thank you. Green Squares (talk) 11:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong. He can remove your messages from his talk page, and it should be taken as an indication that he has read them. Please read
Wikipedia:USERTALK#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space. --Stephen 12:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
You've always been able to remove warnings from your talk page, except if you are blocked or accused of serious issues such as sockpuppetry.
Wikipedia:User page#NOT gives a list of what is unacceptable. --Stephen 12:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Unmasked: two confidential interviews with Hitler in 1931

Hi, in your edit of the above page you have replaced 'Notes and Sources' with 'References'. I have changed it back to 'Notes and Sources' as they are notes and sources and there is already a references section. Also you changed 'reflist' to 'reflist|3. What benefits do you envisage to that change? Cheers --Davidbeare (talk) 13:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your note pointing me to ([3] 00:41, 30 May 2009) That's what, I thought, reflist|3 is not recommended. I'm a novice so I don't know whether there is a reason you want to use reflist|3 if it is not recommended. If there isn't one shall we just revert it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbeare (talkcontribs)

Gratius Falsius

"Gratius Falsius" is a well known in-joke amongst classicists (his name is latin for "gratuitous hoax"). If he's "an ancient Roman author and historian writing in the year 8 AD", surely there'd be some mention of this author on the internet aside from this travesty of broken English you've dug up: "Fleig stated that Roman author Gratius Falsius from the year 8 A.D. written of big exhibition fights in the Roman amphitheatre between the pugnaces from Epirus and the pugnaces from Brittain and it turn out that these wide mouth dogs from Brittain were far superior to the Greek Molossus." I don't know if this site is the perpetrator or a victim of this hoax, but all roads seem to lead to the mysterious "Fleig" (also cited on the Wiki page as the author of "Fighting Dog Breeds"). Perhaps this man - writing a book about dogs, not about Roman historians, after all - naively fell for a classicist's joke while researching whether any Roman historians had written about the pugnaces.--Yolgnu (talk) 15:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Admin Help

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Hello Admin, for the article

Pugnaces Britanniae two editors keep deleting cited information. I tried to work constructively with them on the article talk page, but they will not. Can you intervene and put the cited information back. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 16:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

I am an Administrator and have replied on the article's talk page. Please drop this now as the book clearly does not meet our criteria at
talk) 17:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Thanks

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Please accept this headgear as a token of respect and appreciation for your doughty defence of our content. Illegitimi non carborundumColonel Warden (talk) 08:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gratius Falsius etc.

I hope I am not going to waste more time with this topic. A dispute on antique history between a mathematician and an MBA makes no sense when there are actual experts around. I have notified the relevant project at WT:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome#Eyes needed: "Gratius Falsius" and the "Procurator Cynegii" in Roman Britain and will try to stay away from the topic and simply wonder how long it will take for you to be blocked. In the meantime, continue to have fun rewriting history according to dog breeders. --Hans Adler (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

talk) 12:07, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
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June 2009

talk) 21:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Edit Warring at
Pugnaces Britanniae

page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked
from editing. Please note that you are already up against the limit. Please discuss this on the talk page instead of simply returning the article to "your" version. Blueboar (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

talk) 11:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Stalking accusation

You mean hounding, and if you read

talk) 17:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Please stop

You are clearly editing against consensus (besides being wrong) at

talk) 17:56, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Previous accounts

Have you had any previous accounts? Hipocrite (talk) 18:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SirIsaacBrock
. Thank you.

You have already admitted it, but I think it should be logged properly. I have also added three of your earlier incarnations that had not been identified before. --Hans Adler 02:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ANI discussion

Hello, Green Squares. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at

talk) 19:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

WP:ANI thread. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.  Sandstein  11:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Unblock

{{unblock|Hi, I am a sock puppet, I agree. My account was blocked several years ago. I am a good editor that has written hundreds if not a thousand articles and I have started and sorted many categories. I would ask that based on my strong record that I be reinstated at Wikipedia. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 18:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)}}[reply]

  • I've disabled your unblock request, as a single admin does not have the authority to overturn a community ban. It may be best for you to contact the
    Arbitration Committee by email if you wish to contest the block. --auburnpilot talk 19:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Hi, I am unable to edit on Wikipedia, so you will have to do it. Thanks. Green Squares (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Green Squares (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hi, I am a sock puppet, I agree. My account was blocked several years ago. I am a good editor that has written hundreds if not a thousand articles and I have started and sorted many categories. I would ask that based on my strong record that I be reinstated at Wikipedia. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 18:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

A single admin does not have the authority to overturn a community ban. It may be best for you to contact the

Arbitration Committee by email if you wish to contest the block. –Juliancolton | Talk 21:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]


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I don't see evidence of a community ban, and I could wish that blocking and reviewing admins did a more substantial review of the circumstances before taking action. Sandstein clearly read the SPI case, where he would have noted the comments of a few people (myself included) noting that immediately blocking Green Squares based on his admission might not be the best course of action. Accordingly, an explanation of why he disagrees (and a simple recommendation to Green Squares on how to move forward) was warranted. SirIsaacBrock was blocked nearly three years ago for socking. No sock of his has been blocked (and documented as such) in more than a year, and it appears that for sometime the only reason socks were being blocked is because they had been identified as SirIsaacBrock. I'm not saying he obviously deserves to return, but I suggested on the SPI case that folks discuss the possibility of mentorship and supervised editing... Reflexive blocking for a 3 year old transgression isn't necessarily in our interests. Nathan T 22:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will you find an admin to "mentor" this individual? Please don't volunteer others for work you can't do. Also, please be sure that the "mentorship" isn't an "enabling." Any further BLP violations, misrepresentation of sources or creation of articles that lack encyclopedic tone should result in a return to indef. Finally, I know of other socks, since discarded. A condition of any unblock/unban should be a full and true accounting of all sock accounts. Hipocrite (talk) 22:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I haven't seen evidence of misrepresenting sources or BLP violations, and I don't think people are typically blocked for not writing in an encyclopedic tone (if that could be defined). Nonetheless, as a long-blocked editor who has socked in the past, mentorship/supervised editing would still make sense. A willing volunteer usually steps up if mentorship is supported as an alternative to an indefinite block. I've proposed a number of things where the work isn't ultimately done by me; just because I can't do something myself doesn't mean a good idea might find a person to follow through. Nathan T 23:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure about BLP violations, although his creation of the article
ancient breeds as the progenitors of their modern era's counterparts [...]. [4]), which he thought was a BLP, probably came close. [5]
If I wrote dog books and plagiarised citations of classical authors from earlier dog books by others, I wouldn't want Wikipedia to draw attention to the fact in this way.
As this example demonstrates (keeping in mind that the user is by no standards a newbie), the main problem with this editor is one that JzG addressed openly when he temporarily blocked one of his socks. [6] The background to that block can be found at
canes pugnaces must not be turned into a redirect, and also in the brilliant surprise move [8]. (The article itself explained that canis pugnax is singular and canes pugnaces is plural. He did the move without any warning, during an argument with several editors from WP:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. This was based on a misspelling on a single website.) Hans Adler 23:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
Nathan, I'd be nice if you didn't assume complete incompetence on the part of the admins reviewing this request. I assure you, I thoroughly read through the situation, reviewed the sock report, checked the recentness of the sockpuppets, and only then made the judgment that the block was not suitable for review by a single admin. Maybe you failed to see the report on ANI before you commented here, but I didn't. The intention to block was announced in a very public forum and was not met with opposition. --auburnpilot talk 00:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry if you thought I was accusing you of complete incompetence, I wasn't and I don't believe you are at all incompetent. I have read (and commented at) the thread at AN/I, which has had relatively little participation and that little made primarily by folks opposed to GS in a content dispute. You and Julian both cited a community ban as the reason for declining/disabling the unblock, but I don't find any evidence of a community ban. The block message didn't address any of the background or give any information outside the template on how to achieve an unblock, and the declines seemed to me to take on faith comments made at AN/I that lacked direct evidence and described events open to interpretation. So, my comment was that I'd wish blocking and declining admins made a more substantial review; perhaps what I should have said is that I would like to read about the substance of that review, instead of assuming it was done despite what struck me as a misconception of events.
In any event, there is a limit to the volume of advocacy I'm willing to do for an editor whose conduct I'm not able to vouch for; Green Squares, I'd advise you to take up the instructions of others and review
arbitration committee (specifically the ban appeal subcommittee) by e-mail ([email protected] I believe) if you'd like to be unblocked and no administrator steps forward to do so. Nathan T 00:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

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<>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Community ban of SirIsaacBrock

If you look at his userpage

talk) 05:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

We have a terminological problem with indefinitely blocked, banned and community banned, with no clear demarcations between them. SirIsaacBrock is technically community banned per the wording of
WP:BANNED since July 2006 [11]
). He was not banned per item 1, and I believe the term "community ban" is often used as referring specifically to that.
It's clear that a community ban as in item 2 or 3 can be reversed by a single admin unblocking. It's not at all clear to me how long that is possible, and I guess the community is divided between those who say a ban that did not come about through a formal banning discussion can always be undone by a simple unblock, and those who say such an unblock would have to happen within days after the relevant AN or ANI discussion.
I have added information about number of blocks/unblocks and (last) indefinite block with date, blocking admin and rationale to the collapsed table at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of SirIsaacBrock to facilitate the discussion. Hans Adler 07:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Hans. Nathan T 12:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, thanks Hans. The last detected one seems to be over a year ago. (For info, I'm gathering background for a ban appeal filed with ArbCom.)  Roger Davies talk 06:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I actually expect to see Green Squares around since he obviously means well and tries to follow policies. Not that I think it's a good idea, unless you can find a good mentor who can teach him AGF. I do not know much about the content that he has built and I expect you will look much closer, but what I have seen consists mostly of excessive quotations. Hans Adler 15:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think he will definitely need a mentor. His behavior doesn't seem to have changed over the years he's been socking - personal attacks, edit warring and a real failure to understand
talk) 15:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply
]

Update: This is the text of an email sent today to User:Green Squares:

As you have rejected out of hand each of our various proposals for mentorship or editing restrictions, the Ban Appeal Subcommittee has no alternative but to decline your appeal. You may appeal again next year. If, on reflection, you decide that you are able to cooperate with restrictions, you may appeal earlier. A copy of this message will be posted on your talk page.

For the Ban Appeal Subcommittee,  Roger Davies talk 06:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ban suspended

The

Ban Appeal Subcommittee has considered the block on User:Green Squares (a sock of User:SirIsaacBrock
and it is suspended, subject to the user's unconditional acceptance of, and adherence to, the following restrictions:

  1. The user edits from one and only one account, namely User:Green Squares;
  2. The user is mentored by John Vandenberg for a period of three months;
  3. The user is topic banned from any article relating to fighting dogs and/or attack dogs and/or the associated dog breeds, broadly defined.

The editor has unconditionally accepted the terms by email and the timetable will run from the time the editor is unblocked by his mentor, John Vandenberg, who is currently travelling.  Roger Davies talk 06:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The user elected to have user:WritersCramp unblocked. Arbcom was informed and there was no objection to this. John Vandenberg (chat) 20:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thank you for unblocking my original account. Just a clarification on the topic ban, I believe it lasts six months, until August 12, 2010. WritersCramp (talk) 23:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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