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why you keep removing the electoral votes for the presidential election 2012 india

DO you know how the system works~?.Individual mps\mlas are not counted.Only the electoral votes are counted.IF you see all the previous results,only electoral votes are present. manchurian candidate 14:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Modern pentathlon

Hey, i was doing that from here. The time i think it better suited or? Kante4 (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, agree with you. You can do that. Also for the men's part it has to be done. ;)
Watching football now, later on i can do that. Kante4 (talk) 18:05, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

2016 articles

Please stop putting useless tables with redlinks to articles that will not (and can not) be created until early 2016. These pages look like a joke with empty tables. At this point, in mid-2012, they should be simple stubs, perhaps with comments about changes to the program or comments about the venue under construction. The alternative would be to nominate them for deletion, which has happened in the past when editors get over-zealous about new article creation years in advance (

WP:CRYSTAL). Thanks — Andrwsc (talk · contribs
) 22:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

What is the purpose the 2016 calendar when the event schedule has not been announced? For the next few years, it will just be an empty table with only row headers for the sports. The list of sports appears immediately above where you want to place that big table, so the links to the sport articles are redundant. And what is the purpose of a "Participants" section that lists only Brazil? Again, there is no value of having that section in the article for the next few years as most if not all entries would have zero sources. It's a classic example of
WP:CRYSTAL. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs
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Jamaica at the 2008 Summer Olympics edit

Hi, Lihaas. I do not mean to be a nuisance or annoyance, and do forgive me if I am of offense. However, I wanted to let you know I reverted this edit because I don't think you read the deleted paragraph through; only approximately half of that paragraph actually involves a summary of what Jamaica is and can be considered redundant to the actual Jamaica article. When I wrote the paragraph, my intent was to provide an introduction towards what each country is. I've attempted to standardize this across other articles of this kind, including this one, this one, and this one; I am aware that the characteristics that make understanding the context of each country useful are not readily known to the general public, although known information obviously varies with each situation. Additionally, I know how easy it is for readers to become distracted when they are missing aspects of background information that makes each article helpful and understandable. I would like to minimize the number of readers who become distracted early because they are missing useful information. Let me know if you still object to my action, and we can discuss it further. --Starstriker7(Talk) 09:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I understand what you mean in that the information would be redundant if the
Jamaica at the Summer Olympics article was ever expanded. It would be effective to "see also" the national Olympic pages of the country (it is already linked inside the infobox at the upper-right hand side, but it isn't very obvious). However, to remove the information still would not address my concern that the Jamaica at the 2008 Summer Olympics article would be less complete. --Starstriker7(Talk
) 22:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
The edit in question also condenses the information so it acts as a quick summary. As I said before, I feel that removing the information may make the article less complete. A quick summary as such, while not directly related to the article's content, also makes it simpler for readers. If they need specifics on how the country did at other Games, then they can go to other pages. The example I will use is the Belarus at the Olympics article, which I did not help to write, that expands on how each Byelorussian team did at each of its Games (except for the 2012 games, which have not yet been added). It additionally lists a summary of Belarus' participation as a constituent under the Soviet banner. If Belarus at the 2008 Summer Olympics were expanded to include the background section, you are right in that it would not be inherently necessary. However, it would give readers easier access to the information. They would not have to navigate off the page in order to look for context.
In other words, I agree that the edited information is not inherently necessary on the Jamaica at the 2008 Summer Olympics article. However, I still do feel that it is more expedient for readers to have this information on that page. The Jamaica at the Olympics article, when expanded, will go into this background information in much greater detail. --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I have been thinking, and I am inclined to believe that you are right. I was looking back on other possibilities, and I think the background section can be filled with information about that specific delegation's preparations. However, the issue is that not only every place pays great attention to their specific delegation, that languages do serve as a barrier in translations (especially for countries like Mongolia or Laos), and that past Olympics will be difficult to study. Geez, though; that is a lot of fixing to do. I will have to tackle the ones I have already done, but with time.
I would be glad to help with updating the 2012 Olympic nations articles. I apologize for the late reply, so hopefully I haven't fallen to far behind. --Starstriker7(Talk) 06:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Hm. It looks like User:Courcelles has already taken care of everything. For his (or her) work, there isn't quite anything left to fix. -Starstriker7(Talk) 06:10, 15 August 2012 (UTC) (reworded 06:16, 15 August 2012 (UTC))

2012 indian presidential election

Why you keep deleting the results.I beg you to see the previous results.The electoral votes are given in a breakup format.Individual mps votes dont count.I am adding the electoral results manchurian candidate 07:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Why you spam?

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why you spammed the

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This is silly. You added cn tags after simple statements that can be verified by watching the actual video, which I assume you never did. Regards.--
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Read my response. Regards.--
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2011 Egyptian Revolution

Hi Lihaas! I just had a fascinating talk with a researcher named Heather Ford about what it was like to edit the 2011 Egyptian Revolution article during the heat of the protests and overthrow of Mubarak. She's very interested in hearing from other editors who were heavily involved in writing and discussing that page. I don't know if you've read her report Wikipedia Sources: Managing sources in rapidly evolving global news articles on the English Wikipedia but it mentions you and Silverseren and Abrazame and Egyptian Liberal, and goes into some detail about the debates we had and decisions we made. I think you'd really enjoy talking to her. If you're interested, she'd love you to contact her at your convenience at [email protected]. Hope you're doing well! Ocaasi t | c 20:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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Sam and Diane

Why did you remove this passage as dubious notability? --George Ho (talk) 05:05, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Which policy or guideline applies to removing such thing, even with 'lack of notability' that you claim? --George Ho (talk) 05:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
WP:trivia, am I right? --George Ho (talk
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Getting Wikimedians to the Olympic Games

Hi. I am part of an effort to get Wikimedians access to the 2016 Summer Olympics as accredited reporters and photographers. Part of this effort includes covering the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Two Wikimedians have credentials to attend these games as reporters through Wikimedia Australia. As English Wikipedia does not allow original reporting, this is largely through Wikinews with a project page found at Wikinews:Paralympic Games. If you are interested in helping to get Wikimedians to the next Summer Olympics,I'd encourage you to assist with Wikinews efforts, and also to work on all language 2012 Summer Paralympic Wikipedia articles before, during and after the Games to demonstrate a track record of success. Thank you. --LauraHale (talk) 04:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

If you can comment back again on my talk page. :) Anyway, Wikinews categorically allows for original reporting. I've done a fair amount of it. Wikinews interviews Great Britain men's national wheelchair basketball player Joni Pollock is an example of one story I wrote that featured original reporting. China women's national wheelchair basketball team tops Japan for third place at Rollers & Gliders World Challenge is another. Intellectual disability is back in the Paralympics for the first time since I think 2000, so some of the World Games for people with intellectual disabilities will be there. (Special Olympics would be possible but it would still require getting past the notability hurdle.) Television coverage will be limited but there should be plenty of print for some things. http://abc.net.au is the Australian broadcaster and they do a pretty good job. Getting something for the two missing events would be fantastic. Leveraging the Paralympics for the Olympics in this case will ultimately come down to the Wikinews part. (To a degree, in an Australian context, the Wikipedia part is done. We got articles we needed created about the Australian Paralympians. We took a good crack at getting some of the classification articles created and worked on. We have pictures of almost all the Australian Paralympians, pictures of the Japanese men, Japanese women, Australian men, Australian women, Chinese women and Chinese men, and German women national wheelchair basketball teams in advance. Thus, some pictures of athletes to illustrate for articles if they get mentioned. This helps on a national level, as Olympic coverage will be contingent on getting a national committee to recognise WMF or a chapter as a media organisation. It is doable, but they need track record of success.) babbling. But yay! :D Paralympic help. :D --LauraHale (talk) 07:15, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

RE: Rio Games

Hi Lihaas! I'm sorry, but I didn't quite understand what you said. Could you explain? Best regards; Felipe Menegaz 07:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

There is no much information about the Rio 2016 Organizing Committee currently available. I can recall from some press release that the official name of the organizing committee is just Rio 2016TM, not ROCOG. I'll take a look at this article in another time... Cheers; Felipe Menegaz 08:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
That file was already deleted. It just features the previous logo of the bid during the Applicant phase, without the Olympic Rings. Felipe Menegaz 15:51, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The Final Frontier (Mad About You)

Forgetting something? --George Ho (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Frasier Crane Diane Chambers.jpg

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WP:FFD, or something? --George Ho (talk
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Senkaku Islands dispute

Would you mind dropping by the talk page to explain the article-level tag you added? I don't mind it, but without an explanation, it'll be hard to correct the underlying problem and remove it. Khazar2 (talk) 18:30, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

{{Somali elections}}

In response to this, just to let you know, these templates do not include indirect elections. See {{German elections}}, {{French elections}}, {{Turkish elections}} as examples. Number 57 21:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It was agreed years ago (mid 2000s) from what I recall. You are probably thinking of the templates dedicated to non-public elections (e.g. {{Pakistani presidential elections}}, {{Indian presidential elections}}, {{Israeli presidential elections}}), as as far as I know, there are none that have non-public elections. Number 57 21:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Zenawi

Re this edit Prime Minister and President are proper nouns in this context so should be capitalised. And re this edit, it's not only the western media that describe him as a strongman, unless the India, Saudi Arabia, Libya and several other countries whose media are reporting him to be such are western now? And re this edit, the expression neé is only used when women have changed their surname due to marriage. You should have just written "born"). Number 57 21:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I've changed the article to reflect these points. Number 57 22:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Arsenal

See Arsenal league positions 1947-2012.png. Cheers Crookesmoor (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2012 (UTC) I've updated the file as requested Crookesmoor (talk) 13:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Somali election

It's a bit of a mess - I can't seem to work out what the dispute actually is. Number 57 14:01, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

= March 8 block

Even if they're orphans, redirects that're several months old may have incoming links from outside Wikipedia, but that still misses the fundamental point. It's entirely plausible someone will enter

March 8 block into the search bar (or write it in an article and wikilink it) when they're searching for March 8 Alliance. Part of being a good encyclopaedia is helping readers find what they're looking for. WilyD
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Alright, I've moved it to your userspace. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Kosygin overlink on Neil Armstrong page

i defend my deletion. reasons:-

  • WP:UNDERLINK see "if words... are needed to aid understanding of the article" Note: not understanding standalone terms but understanding the article
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Terrorism

I see that you've been keeping an eye on the India and state terrorism article that was deleted. In case you are planning to work on it, you are free to use content on this page - however much (or little) you like. There are some sources related to allegations which may come in relevant. If you think something is POV, let me know. Maybe we can work together and create an article that will discuss this subject in great detail and yet also comply with NPOV as much as possible. Mar4d (talk) 04:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Hangal

Hangal was born on 1st Feb 1914 and so he was 98 year old while dying. Those who say he was born on 1917 have taken the piece of information from wikipedia itself! Recently an interview was taken by tv9 in India on 15th Aug of Hangal and his fans. His fan Ila Arun herself mentioned that Hangal wishes to make a 100 by lving for another 2 years. Video is available in youtube.Onceshook1 (talk) 11:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC) I suggest you watch the video where Hangal and Ila Arun themselves say in interview that after 2 years he would reach 100.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaOPHsaDYqc http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-pix-friends-son-bid-ak-hangal-final-goodbye/20120827.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVFW-vv4q8YOnceshook1 (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2012 (UTC) Wil try to provide more sources. Infact his autobiography mentions its 1914!!!Onceshook1 (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2012 (UTC) SEE - http://indiawest.com/news/6259-actor-a-k-hangal-dead-at-98.html and check for Life and Times of A.K. Hangal (1999) (autobiography).Onceshook1 (talk) 11:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC) At present issue is of year. date is not disputed by any source.Onceshook1 (talk) 11:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Just quickly have a look at the artcile I have edited just now....Before any one reverts it...just improve it from here onOnceshook1 (talk) 11:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC) Can you incorporate more information on AK Hangal from his autobiography available here in http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ju51hH5wyFQC&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=ak+hangal+theater+1936&source=bl&ots=Js1ANslAWK&sig=ujXktHW0wEBKj7zMUjHjpuVlRuQ&hl=en#v=onepage&q=ak%20hangal%20theater%201936&f=false especailly regarding his days in prison, then in theatres after he came to India from 1947-1965?Onceshook1 (talk) 11:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC) Since he was 98 year old on his death, he was born in 1915. I have given you even link of his autobiography. many users have destroyed the article once again in wiki. Help needed.Onceshook1 (talk) 03:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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Angola

It was my mistake - there were already four parties listed (MPLA, UNITA, FNLA and PRS), so they are all there now. Number 57 10:58, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Your incessant tagging, with regard to
WP:Weasel words

Hi, Lihaas. I think that you should read WP:Weaseal words, which has been updated since you probably last looked at it. My reason is because you often add "who," "whom," "which" and other such tags to articles (as seen in these cases[1][2][3]), even when the uses of "most," "many," "others" or some variation thereof, etc. are needed. And I've seen you reverted plenty of times because of that. Sometimes...the sources themselves are using these words, as WP:Weasel words points out, and it's often that not every name can be mentioned, such as the majority of scientists believing in the

WP:LINKFARM, with names that don't even have Wikipedia articles (sometimes because they are non-notable). This is exactly why Template:By whom
states: Do not use this tag for material that is already supported by an inline citation. Do not use this tag if naming the individuals who hold a position would be silly because of the number. Facts that are widely held should be asserted as simple facts. Do not use in-text attribution to imply that a widely held view is a minority position. Thus, we write simply that "The Earth is round", not "Scientists like Suren Ayvazyan, Teki Biçoku, Donald Canfield, Ricardo Cirera, Hartley T. Ferrar, Nicolae Frolov, Khandaker Mosharraf Hossain, Manuel Santillán (and about a million others) say that the Earth is round.

I feel that Template:Who should state similar to Template:By whom, and I will be proposing such at the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch talk page.

In that third diff, you state that "we dont blindly go on the source, thats why we find out which ones (there are 9, btw)." But we do go blindly on the source, per WP:Verifiability. And there often isn't any information on just how many; sometimes, there is no source for the exact number of people who believe whatever, for example, as in the case of "most scientists."

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RR

Hi Lihaas. I notice you have been updating

Chronological summary of the 2012 Summer Paralympics. I was wondering if you can tell me what "RR" in the Records column means? Thanks. DH85868993 (talk
) 08:26, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! DH85868993 (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Kyle Bartley

If you insist on removing information, citing it as "OR", you might want to actually learn what

WP:OR is... GiantSnowman
08:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

No, it was NOT original research - it was unreferenced. That's a major difference and one which you
fail to grasp. GiantSnowman
08:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Yep, I've already added a reference - it took me literally 2 seconds to Google 'Kyle Bartley Swansea' and find a multitude of news reports. Like I said, it was unreferenced, not original research - do you understand the difference? GiantSnowman 08:45, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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Italics

I've noticed this edit summary of yours, and reverted the removal; film names should be italicized per

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Reflinks erasing edits

Hello - when you filled in refs at

talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) using Reflinks ([4]), you reverted a couple of substantive edits I'd made just prior. I'm assuming that was an accidental by-product of using Reflinks, but if you disagreed with the edits, just let me know. To be honest, I don't really have the energy to go back and reinsert them, anyway. MastCell Talk
21:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

2012 Guinea-Bissau coup d'état GA

Hey,

I'm writing just to make sure you're aware that I started reviewing article 2012 Guinea-Bissau coup d'état two days ago. Mohamed CJ (talk) 08:29, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

It's been six days. Also don't forget the other
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Yet another appalling blind revert

This is possibly one of your worst. Did you even check what I did? Just to give you a summary of the mistakes you reintroduced to the article, they included "Parliamentary elections were be held", "protestswere", "President Alexander Lukashenko reacted in saying" and "state security police broke up gathering of activists".

As for your claims of change by consensus, where is the consensus for your change? The article was originally written with bold text (not by me), yet you were the one to remove it.

If you want to remove the bold text, why not just do that instead of a blind revert? Number 57 08:19, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

That's still no excuse for a blind revert. Number 57 09:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I've had to revert this set of changes. As I've already pointed out to you the fact that you are reintroducing several errors by reverting like that, yet you continue to do it, I think it's reached the point where it's effectively vandalism.

As a brief summary, your set of edits introduced/reintroduced the following errors:

  1. "Parliamentary elections were be held" (despite being warned about this one before!)
  2. "Political parties with registered candidates were: The election was contested by"
  3. "In turn, oppositions activists"
  4. "threat of losing subsidies in accommodation"
  5. "state security police broke up gathering of activists"
  6. Removing the vacant seat section from the results table even though one seat remains vacant at present (did you even read the source for the table?)

As for tagging your own edits with "which", why do you do this? I'm really reaching the end of my tether here. Number 57 13:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Czech presidential election

Lihass, I'm really confused by this. Why do you keep adding those sentences about opposition parties, and then tag it with the weasel word tag? I see where this idea comes from in one of the references you added, and you could use that to source this sentence if you wanted, but better would be just to name the opposition party its referring to, which is why I added a sentence about the ČSSD. The other thing that baffles me is that you keep changing the wording to say "constitutional amendment". Now all the sources I saw, including the ones you added, note that the president doesn't have to sign a "constitutional amendment", but he did have to sign the "implementation bill" in August, which is what I keep seeing in sources like this one, which also references the June and July dates. I don't want to revert your edits, but it seems like they're preventing us from getting the article on

WP:DYK, which can be a great way to get a new article attention.-- Patrick, oѺ∞
15:16, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, just letting you know that I should now have the article fixed of errors, my own included. If you have a chance perhaps you can look it over, and if it meets standards, let the folks at the DYK nom know. Thanks!-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 22:59, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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