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Category:LGBT comedians from England

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I've nominiated for deletion

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Hoaxes

Hoaxes like the addition of "He died June 2012 after duelling with a polar bear" to a biography of a living person are not funny at all. Even if you remove them yourself later. Don't do something like that again, please. Amalthea 18:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I restored to an earlier version to remove other hoax material in the categories section etc and that was the last thing i noticed needing removed. Before I worked on the article it had far more hoax and joke material in it. Please check diffs before accusing.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 18:21, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Riley&diff=513215568&oldid=508627795
Notice the difference. The fake/unsourced nick name and hoax/fake categories which you left in the article are now gone. MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 18:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
I see! My sincere apologies, absolutely my mistake! Amalthea 18:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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... for cleaning up month-old vandalism from an article (and then being accused of problematic edits for it). Apologies again! Amalthea 18:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks very much :) Just glad we got it all cleared up quickly.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 18:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Drawings by Leonardo da Vinci

I don't think that the creation of a separate category, at this point in time was a good move. There are very few individual drawings that merit a separate article., and carving them off from the category "Works by Leonardo da Vinci" is not a good way to go.

I want to comment that as a new editor, you need to confer with the regular writers of the articles before making a major change to their categorisation. A minor change would entail adding a work to an extra category such as Renaissance drawings of women (I don't know if such a category exists). But the major category in this case is obviously Works by Leonardo da Vinci, and you have set to and removed several works without, as far as I know, any discussion.

Amandajm (talk) 12:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Scrub this.
I have observed that Drawings is coming up as a subcategory on the Works page. That's an OK solution! My apologies!
Amandajm (talk) 12:08, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Glad everything is OK. I thought that when some were divided by medium there may as well be one for drawings arranged in the same way.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 12:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to revert your addition to

WP:RS, in which a person is unambigously described as "androgynous", must be provided before that category can be added to their article. Thanks? Martinevans123 (talk
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I would say that I would judge it like other categories and say the main thing is that the category is backed up by text in the main body of the article. Would these be OK as refs to then add the category to Lennox?[1][2] MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 15:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd be hard pressed to think of better ones. But my only gripe is that there should be no room for personal judgement - the description, together with sources like those two, should already be in the article. Many thanks. Annie sometimes looks more of a man that I'll ever be :( Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Why add these? What do they add? And why add an incomplete one to the DGS page? Before adding them you should seek a consensus at the project, and work them up in a sandbox until they are reasonably complete. --John (talk) 20:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

As you have suggested Ihave moved the DGS table out and I am filling it out in a sandbox for now.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 21:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:Lesbian Asian Americans

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Category:Transgender and transsexual Asian Americans

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Category:Androgynous individuals

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CAT:Gay royalty

I have reverted 4 edits of yours adding a redlinked category while removing a bluelinked one which gives the impression of vandalism. You obviously are doing this as part of a largeer content effort. Please take some time to evaluate any feedback given in this area of content. Agathoclea (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:English people convicted of child pornography offenses

Can you correct the spelling please per

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Fixing it now.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 17:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Removing athletes from LGBT category

Can you please add edit summaries to explain what you're doing with all those articles? It's not clear. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 20:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Ah, never mind. I'm slowly figuring it out by myself. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 20:36, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

I appreciate what you are doing and without qualification I will say that you are making Wikipedia better.

I encourage you to make a userpage, though, and identify yourself and in your interests in some way. It is a comfort to other users. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:47, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Categorization

I think you would want to look at

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Yes please look at these pages, as you are creating far too many categories that are going to end up being deleted. –anemoneprojectors– 15:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

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The same goes for
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Category:LGBT atheists

12:44, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

The same for 12:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:American pescetarians

21:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

So your response to a nomination for deletion of a potentially problematic category is (a) ignore the discussion and (b) create similar potentially problematic categories? That really isn't how to do things, you know. 08:11, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Is this really worth it? I don't think so. I think you've gone rather over the top in these categories, especially as the English ones are not normally called "high crosses" (for purely historical reasons). Johnbod (talk) 22:00, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

MaybeMaybeMaybe, I think most of the categories you are creating are unnecessary (especially eponymous ones), and would ask you to not make any more because the vast majority are likely to be deleted. –anemoneprojectors– 11:03, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Seriously stop!
Black British" is an identity whereas "Black English" is not. –anemoneprojectors
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Category:American gay-related television programs

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Brisbane City Hall

Hi, MaybeMaybeMaybe! I see you have categorised Brisbane City Hall as possibly haunted. I'm curious because there is no mention of a haunting in the text of the article. Do you have a source or something that could be added to the text to support the categorisation. Thanks Kerry (talk) 22:30, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi there i was going from the reportedly haunted locations in the world article where it is included but here are a couple of sources. http://www.brisbanehistory.com/ghosts_of_brisbane.html http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/ghost-stories-from-brisbane/story-e6frep26-1225784427216 that could possibly be added to the article.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 22:36, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE STOP

Many of your "gay-related" and "lesbian-related" categories are currently nominated for deletion. If they are deleted then these new ones you're creating will also be deleted. You are making more work for yourself and more work for others. Plaes STOP making these categories pending the outcome of the various discussions. Thank you. Buck Winston (talk) 23:02, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Queer Jews

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Please see the talk page of that category where I have asked two questions in response to your request that the category is not speedily deleted.
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Category:Birmingham Gay Village

Thanks for the edit there, i'm still getting the hang of Hotcat's functions Jenova20 (email) 22:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:Gay men by nationality / Category:Gay men

Please do not try to wiggle around the decision to upmerge all the "Gay men from Foo" categories into "LGBT people from Foo" categories by adding people to the "Gay men" category itself e.g. this edit. Such an approach is blatantly disruptive editing. Please undo all such edits at once, or I will have to ask for you to be blocked.

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It is not wiggling out of it some of theme were in that category previously and diffused the gay men by country ones. many gay men are placed in that category when there is not a gay xx category to cover their occupation.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 22:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

note that I am not touching the ones with a gay xxx occupation category only looking for the ones not covered by such cats. please check before accusing.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 22:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
eg Jasper Conran he is cleary identified as gay with sources but does not have a gay occupation category covering him.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 22:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict x2) Well, as I read the discussion, the better view was that gay men should be in "LGBT people from Foo" categories, rather than categorised as "Gay men" per se; there are some "Gay (occupation)ers" categories, but not many; and even if you're right (and I dispute that) it certainly wouldn't explain the changes you've made to
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22:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
No because the likes of this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nigel_Wrench&diff=517765522&oldid=514577899 happened widely and they are being categorized like they were before. There was nothing to say that gay men shouldnt have any cats based on that at all but the arguments mostly seems to be against those cats by country.91.125.200.202 (talk) 23:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Apologies for the louis spence one I hadnt realised there had been an occ cat that covered him until a moment after I had put him in the parent cat.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 23:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Nobody at the discussion wanted the contents of "Gay men by nationality" upmerged into "Gay men", did they? (In fact, as user:Bearcat said, Category:Gay men and Category:Lesbians are not meant to have individuals in them, they are simply containers for occupational subcategories.) In any event, upmerger to "Gay men" wasn't the outcome of the discussion, so you are disrupting and attempting to subvert the CFD process.
And your claim that they are being categorised as they were is breathtakingly far from accurate - to give just three examples as I work through your edits:
  1. Rupert Croft-Cooke: he was removed from "LGBT people from England" by you, and he was never in Category:Gay men until you put him there
  2. Anthony Crank: ditto
  3. BencherliteTalk
    23:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not claiming to be flawless I am going to go back through the gay men cat and check for mistaken doubling up of those cats once I am done.And I said some of them were there previously not nexxesarily all.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 23:18, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Also where does it say that the gay men category can not contain indivduals? I would dispute that as it has contained individuals for some time now. MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I haven't found any article which you have tonight added to
BencherliteTalk
23:37, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I had already pointed out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nigel_Wrench&diff=517765522&oldid=514577899 MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I misunderstood the purpose of that diff you gave earlier. In any case, I have raised a question of the LGBT WikiProject
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Category:Gay male adult models

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Recreating deleted categories

All of these categories have two things in common. Firstly, the community has previously decided at

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My apologies I am still learning the dos and don'ts on here. I will avoid recreating such deleted categories in future.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Images at Austin Butler

All the images on commons are from a posed photoshoot. One of them is sufficient for illustrating what he looks like. The image of him with the guitar prop in that photoshoot is pretty marginal to use as an image in the discography section. A much better image for this section would be a candid of him performing, not just posing. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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Longniddry - unexplained content removal

I have reverted this edit which removed sourced content without edit summary or explanation. Such sourced content should not be removed without talk page agreement.

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Try looking at the following edit. the school was moved to its own article per other scottish primary schools.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk)
My apologies; I missed the link. However, I created the content in this location because primary schools rarely survive deletion discussions, but we will see how it runs.
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I think it shpuld be ok as it has non affiliated sources and the scottish primary schools category is getting quite big now. MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 01:16, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hi can you take a look at it now as a managed to locate 3 sources? Thanks.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Prefer you didn't

It would be preferable to not add Horse breeds originating in (fill in nation) categories to the horse breed articles, for a number of reasons: First, history changes boundaries, as an example, the Lipizzaner originated within the Austria-Hungarian empire and now five different nations house the stud farms that provided the foundation stock. Second, there are nationalist issues, the Karabakh horse, for example, and the Azerbaijani horse -- get the "origins" wrong and we have edit wars. While a few people have just had an obsession with national tagging (for USA or France or Italy, or the UK, for example) and we sort of let them have their way, there is no real need to tag breeds with national origins absent some pressing faction demanding it, and if you get the nation wrong, it causes drama. So can you just not create new categories absent a clamor and demand from some specific nationalistic bunch that insists upon it? I'm not going to nom the cats fro deletion, but please don't waste your time trying to do all 350 breeds. Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 17:39, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Would you PLEASE explain to me why you insist on adding unneeded (and sometimes incorrect) nation of origin tags to all the horse and donkey breed articles? It appears to be over-categorization in many, many cases (Latvia? Really?). I would like to engage in discussion with you as to why you think this is necessary because it appears to serve no logical purpose whatsoever. But, I actually AM open to hearing if there is a logical argument and discussing the issue. Montanabw(talk) 22:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
If you disagree with categories please nominate them for cfd rather than simply emptying them.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 23:57, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
I DO like that you created Category:Donkey breeds. Perhaps that will solve the Donkey articles problem. On the rest, I would prefer to work this issue out with you without resorting to the dramah boards which will be long, rancorous, and generally a tendentious waste of time; an empty category is automatically deleted by bot if it stays empty long enough. If you have a good case to make for what you are doing, make it. Otherwise, I'll simply revert and only resort to CfD if you insist on not communicating about the issue. Montanabw(talk) 00:03, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

MaybeMaybeMaybe, you have been editing for a comparatively short time and already received many complaints about your category-related edits. Far too many of your category creations are getting nominated for merging back into their original categories or for outright deletion; I've already had to warn you about recreating previously deleted categories when you've just ignored the previous discussion. Even when respected and knowledgeable editors like Montanabw ask you to explain and discuss, you seem to prefer to ignore them and carry on regardless. I think it's getting very close to the time when the community will need to discuss imposing involuntary restrictions on your editing, either in the form of a topic ban from categories or something even more severe, unless you learn from your mistakes and stop creating so many unnecessary categories.

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00:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Images on Nico Mirallegro

Thank you for adding a picture on Nico Mirallegro which better reflects his current appearance (rather than the one that is out of date, taken when he was 17, with a fan beside him). I realise now that you originally uploaded that older photo, which is why you wished to re-add it; I understand because I have uploaded photographs myself, only to have them deleted; even when written permission had been obtained for their use. A really good further refinement now, would be to ask the owner of one of the two recent football photos of Nico Mirallegro (on Wikimedia Commons page) if a cropped version could be used, showing mainly his head and shoulders. As he is an actor rather than a footballer, this would provide an image which, while not being a professional actor photograph, would not distract from his current career of being an actor. This would suffice as a good image for Nico Mirallegro until permission for use of TV and film images can be obtained. I think most photos on Wikimedia Commons can be adapted and cropped - with permission obtained from owner - if they are not overwritten but saved as a new image.

Kind regards, pinkyandrexa Pinkyandrexa (talk) 11:08, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring

I see you have engaged in an edit war on Quagmire's Dad for several days now, and numerous other related articles. Please don't, and use the talk page as appropriate. Nymf hideliho! 08:20, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, just wondered if you think this category was really worth creating since it only contains redirects that all point to the same article. –anemoneprojectors– 13:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I think it is worth it for now at least as some have songwriting credits or significant coverage in their own right and I was going to ask about splitting some out.MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 13:39, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this category, just wondered on your thoughts. I won't AFD it! I don't think it's worth splitting any of them out though. –anemoneprojectors– 14:38, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
It's been AFD'd now - note that at Category:Musicians by band it requests that categories are only made if at least two members have articles. –anemoneprojectors– 20:39, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Songs written by B*Witched

I have nominated the above category for deletion and as per precedent. I also note you have created a couple of categories where there is no corresponding main article which I shall also nominate for deletion in due course - unless the relevant article appears. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:07, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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