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Royalbroil 13:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FTSE List

Please look at the list again. Their entire developed country thing is nothing more then a simple paragraph, to which S. Korea, Israel, and Iceland is still not on. When they continue talking about how Korea is being changed to developed, they're not talking about developed countries. They are talking about developed markets [1]. FTSE does which markets are developed or not, not which countries are developed. Hope this helps. Deavenger (talk) 15:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you don't understand, THEY ARE ABOUT DEVELOPED MARKETS. In fact from their front page

We provide an evolving range of index products to help investors make more informed investment decisions with confidence.

Developed Markets =/= (does not equal) developed country. Their so called developed list to which South Korea is being added to, it's still markets. Markets, markets, markets. In fact, looking around their website, it doens't actually do developed country, they just keep on using developed markets. This is why editors kept it out at the developed country page, because FTSE doesn't do developed country, it does developed marekts.
By the way, don't trust the media, they make errors all the time. Also, the list you wanted to use from the FTSE developed market list, the first thing it says is market classification.Deavenger (talk) 16:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All our NI measures are measures of markets: marketed output, income derived from selling labour on markets, expenditure on marketed output. Development as commonly talked about invovles markets! I think it involves / should involve other things as well: freedom (Sen) education perhaps we should have list of these as well etc but people talk about the economic development most.

Perhaps I should work more on our intro section or leave this a while (Msrasnw (talk) 17:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

One, it talks about economy. Markets are economy but economy are not markets. Markets are just one part of an economy. Having a developed markets does not mean that they have a developed economy. As for education and freedom, I agree (maybe not on the freedom part, but that's another issue), as I believe that there are lists that take more then economy into account. Deavenger (talk) 18:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Massacre of the Latins

Hello! Please check the article's talk page for a discussion on recent additions by User:LoveMonkey. Thank you. Constantine 15:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just notice your additions to the Massacre of the Latins article

Thanks. I am the editor LoveMonkey and I really am not trying to cause allot of mischief I hope Constantine is not too terribly upset with my edits on the article. I feel as he has corrected the article and done a very good job. I feel the article lacked clarity as to what the event was and what caused it. Now that aside. How are you? I hope you are well. I would like to ask you for help on some stochastics relationed articles. Please pretty please? In specific the Athanasios Papoulis article and also maybe start an article on Alexander Poularikas? I have no data for Poularikas. Please pretty please. LoveMonkey (talk) 15:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear LoveMonkey I am not sure what you would like me to do and I don't know of either Athanasios Papoulis or Alexander Poularikas . Best wishes in anycase. (Msrasnw (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Oh I though you where a statician [2] who might have studied them. Sorry.

LoveMonkey (talk) 18:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


I am - but my knowledge does not extend as far as either of these two people. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 18:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Yeo Ok

I guess the article should be renamed "Gongmudohaga" because there is almost none about her biography. I'm referring to Korean encyclopedias, she is just briefly mentioned. The poem takes a very important place in Korean literature and the article contents are more focused on the poem. Gonghuin is a form of song adapted from Gongmudohaga although the poem is also called Gonghuin.--Caspian blue 00:39, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

p.s After brief search, Konghuin (Gonghuin's another Romanization by

McCune-Reischauer) is much widely used than Kongmudohaga, so I guess the title should be "Gonghuin".--Caspian blue 00:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply
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It might be nice if we are the only ones to have a page for her. Even if it is only little it is nice little tale from long long ago. (Msrasnw (talk) 00:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

But there would be no more incoming sources on her biography....--Caspian blue 00:50, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oos, sorry I found an article on her biography[3], so we are not the only one to have such article. However, except minor facts, the info in the Korean encyclopedia is as much as our article is.--Caspian blue 00:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict!!!) Perhaps another article on the other old poems as well might be nice then I could keep this one on her. I think with the picture from http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/021st_issue/97121002.htm which looks old and should be copy write free (but how to tell? ) would make it a lovely little article. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 00:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]

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Draper

Regarding your edits to the Draper page, the comments that you are insisting to add to the article do not belong there, the same comments are also being removed from the mandelson article for

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Please see also the comment on the talk page regarding your addition regarding tactical voting, unless the comment is further explained together with a additional cite to support it, then that will also be removed. [[4]] (

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Brought from my talk page.. please continue discussion here if required Dear Off2riorob, reporting what Mandelson and Draper have said is not anti-labour. I think you are really accusing them of behaving in an anti-Labour fashion and you might have a point there, but covering this up is to condone their actions. Your edits seem to me to be ridding articles of useful information. Our job is not to be pro or anti labour. I myself am generally pro-labour but have found much of what the new labour people have done to the Party to be reprehensible. Perhaps you might add more information about where Draper has been constructive or some good things he has done that you think are worthy of reporting if you know anything to that effect. (Msrasnw

My reply...Adding some chosen derogatory statement of no value factually or fantasy is of no value to any article. You clain to be pro labour and you dislike ..reprehensible..new labour...I am not bothered..I like to see articles that don't remind me of attack pieces. You are right draper has done plenty of poor stuff and there is more than enough of the simple facts to add to tell a story that is a poor reflection on draper without the silly POV pushing rubbish like the "hunted man" twaddle..Why do you insist on inserting that trash. Please explain to me honestly. (Off2riorob (talk) 5:50 pm, Today (UTC+1))

I did not add it - I restored it. I don't like your going through removing as much as you can get away with. You are, in my view removing useful information from articles which do not match your point of view. Now that is gone what do we know from the wiki entry on Draper about Draper's views of Blair vs Brown around 2005 less or more? Less. You have removed useful information. Why? You don't like our encyclopedia reporting the views of the people the biographies are about. Should we remove the fact that Draper was a labour supporter too - or the whole article? Should we know that Mandelson was writing to Draper about Brown or should this be kept from the public? Should we know more or less? (Msrasnw (talk) 17:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Restoring it is the same as adding it. Please put it back if you can find it anywhere else and can explain it in a worthwhile way....That one isolated unsupported unexplained comment does nothing to explain how draper felt about blair. The press writes things every day to push their POV, they might all be citable but they are not all neutral are they. what has an email supposedly sent from mandelson commenting on brown got to do with drapers views...draper must get emails from lots of people but it doesn't reflect drapers thoughts at all unless he comments on them. (

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Its good to talk about it. Lets have a look at this comment that you added and created its own section for..

Recommending Tactical Voting against Labour

In the 2005 General Election Draper urged people to vote tactically against Labour, saying, "I don't want my vote to be used as vindication for Tony Blair, I'd like him to wake up after the election and feel like a hunted man".[1]

I asked what this meant and what was it about and no one knew...please explain this benefits of this addition (

Off2riorob (talk) 17:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC))[reply
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Like .. something that requires it's own section should be important.. and lets see what it say...In the 2005 election draper urged...it sounds important...so are there any other reports to support this ...what happened after this urging? did people vote tactically against blair? and the hunted man slur, insult . What did blair say about it? ..... It is worthless and unexplained. Why did you replace it? Because it adds something.. (

Off2riorob (talk) 17:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC))[reply
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Google it and see what you get.. you get us...Wikipedia and the one link that was with the original comment and a couple of blogs also propogating the comment. I read the original link and it explained nothing at all. All that it was , was an insult, it gave nothing of any value. It didn't tell the reader anything, in fact isolated, unexplained comments like that actually encourage the reader to stop reading. People are not looking for each and every newspaper twaddle, they are looking for strong, clear factual comments that are neutral and well reported. (

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When I asked what is this about and commented that it was isolated and unexplained and removed it, did you consider my comments and investigate further the addition or did you just add it back without consideration of my coments. (
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  • As oppose to the changes you made on January 30 here, one can review the relevant source and see that the list of "Developed Countries" does include Israel.
  • As oppose to the changes you made on February 1 here, one can see review the relevant source and see that Israel's status as Developed Market has already been implemented in FTSE indices since September 2008.

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Draper

Hi, I have removed your comment and it's link to that awful scandalmongering gardian gossip piece journalism. You are more than welcome to replace the comment with a stronger link. That link has been there b4 and been removed b4. As he is a living person its better to not add press slanderous stories like that one. (

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The source was listed and appropriately cited and the article is substantially adjusted. (Msrasnw (talk) 15:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC))[reply]

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The source is on the credits of the film version "Saui ch'anmi/In Praise of Death" (or a Psalm of Death, Korean: 사의 찬미).

Have a good day.

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Guest.

Thank you for your comments, I did actually meet guest once and he has very recently died and I would like to keep things a litle tidy there, we can add things of course but if we can keep it a bit, whats the word I am looking for...honest and respectful I would appreciate it. He has only really become notable on his early death. It's a bit sad really as his life was just looking good. I am ok with you from our earlier meeting, editing conflict need to be forgotten and we can all move on. Regards(

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William Weston (Early English Navigator) or William Weston (Merchant)

Hi, I'd merge them into

William Weston (Explorer) - your title is too long, mine is not as intersting - so 'explorer' seems best I'd say. What do you think? I think mine could work as an intro with your text as the main body. Thanks:) Malick78 (talk) 19:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
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  • I've done loads of them and pictures/boxes really are optional and not a prerequisite :) I'll be back on Sunday evening so maybe I can do it then - it'll still be within the 5 day period - if you're nnot feeling confident ;) Malick78 (talk) 09:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thankyou for the explanation Msrasnw. I will fix the credits for you and verify the article :) Gatoclass (talk) 10:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Msrasnw. I added some online versions of his papers to the reference section. In terms of getting the article kept, I wonder if he is the editor of any journals? Have there been published reviews of any of his books? I looked in Google Scholar but he does not seem to have any papers with very high citation counts. The Social Science Citation Index might be something else to try. EdJohnston (talk) 03:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear EdJohnston, hi thanks for your help. I think the best route to go down is intellectual, talking about his contribution the debates he has been involved in. In British IPE he seems to me one of the key, if new figures, and I would have thought his books alone would be enough to establish him. There is one book review already there - but perhaps references to his work via his contribution is the approach I would find most interesting to go down. Reading articles citing him. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 16:57, 11 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

See his own CV for the positions he holds outside academia.Foxhound66 (talk) 22:50, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hi you are very helpful thank u for ur message. one thing i do not understand is i understand that the article needs sources but i do not understand why it is not neutral. i think it cant be neutral because it is used as a political idea and it is used to make chinese people hate other countries so it can not be a neutral word. can u help me —Preceding

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Matthew Watson

Didn't know he was promoted so fast--he was an assiststant professor last in 2007. Political Economy is not IPE. IPE rest under the school of political science; political economy is that of the economics school.Foxhound66 (talk) 22:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i have made some comments on my talk p. about the article draft, and also some at the Deletion Review. Additionally, I suppose you won;t mind if I help you reformat the draft a little. If you have access to SSCI or Scopus, add the citation count, as suggested above. If you can't, I will do that myself. See if you can find all the book reviews and list them. Try a revision as I suggested tomorrow, and I'll look tomorrow night. Unlike some people around here, I like other eds who can find errors in my work. I am just as susceptible to errors as anyone else, & I have no way of knowing about them unless other people tell me. DGG ( talk ) 01:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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