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Alemanno ha detto che ufficialmente che il MNS farà parte della coalizione Lega Salvini Premier, dunque c'è più senso nel fare la voce divisa... --Sciking (talk) 13:21, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sciking: Sì certo, si può aprire una discussione sulla pagina della Lega Nord, anche se non so se la proposta verrà accettata da tutti, poiché come aveva già sottolineato un altro utente, anche altri partiti inseriscono nelle proprie liste membri di partiti minori senza che venga creato nessun nuovo articolo. Comunque ne possiamo discutere -- Nick.mon (talk) 13:34, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ma cambiano anche nome? Ad esempio FI avrà nell'uninominale alcuni candidati di EPI ma non si presenta come "FI-EPI" mentre la Lega cambia progetto, statuto e simbolo. --Sciking (talk) 13:45, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sciking: Sì concordo, non è la stessa cosa rispetto a Forza Italia, che si presenterà sotto il nome (credo) "Forza Italia – Berlusconi Presidente" e avrà dentro alcuni membri di EpI, Rivoluzione Cristiana, Movimento Animalista ecc. Comunque possiamo sicuramente discuterne nella talk page, poi vediamo cosa ne pensano anche gli altri utenti. -- Nick.mon (talk) 13:49, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Ciao, ti segnalo che per il Ministero degli Interni la Lega Salvini Premier ha il medesimo statuto della Lega Nord per l'indipendenza della Padania. Trattasi di errore (e la cosa sarebbe grave) o effettivamente la Lega Nord ha presentato solo un simbolo diverso senza cambiare Statuto? --Sciking (talk) 22:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sciking: Ciao, da quel che mi diceva un può di tempo fa l'utente Checco, il quale solitamente è abbastanza esperto sulle faccende interne alla Lega, la Lega avrebbe solamente presentato un nuovo simbolo per le elezioni, senza cambiare il suo statuto -- Nick.mon (talk) 08:35, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, nobody decided anything about redundancy, without sourced discussion. Two parties from same country have nothing more in common than any other world party, and on English Wikipedia, anthem sound is used in fairly tens of articles. --ThecentreCZ (talk) 16:38, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ThecentreCZ: Well, Checco reverted your edits, Mélencron did the same, I'm not the only one who thinks that the audio file is quite redundant and useless. -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick.mon: I did reverted the edit of other two users, which was reverted. Tell me, how imporatant is for example name of every newspaper of exact political party? It is not but it have information values. Users, whose started amending party anthems and even added this data in the infobox, thought differently very long time ago. --ThecentreCZ (talk) 18:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ThecentreCZ: Can we discuss about that on the appropriate talk page? However, I'm not against the anthem, I'm "against" the file, which enlarges inordinately the infobox. -- Nick.mon (talk) 18:11, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain. Why do you think that the 2018 Italian General Election not take place? No, this is not a silly question. You are accusing me of "vandalism." How is it vandalism? The election happened and the Italian Democratic Party got 17% of the vote. There is a fight among all the parties over who's going to get power, and it's chaos. The prime minister's predecessor, Matteo Renzi, who just resigned, has decided to come back and chastise some members for negotiating with the Five Star Movement. The League is feuding with the Neo-Burlosconi party and nobody has a clue how it's going to turn out. It's nearly as bad as when the Christian Democrats had a revolving door ministry (prime minister of the week) back before Burlosconi took over the first time. How is that NOT chaos? Jeez! If you want to help, GREAT! But don't just blank the page and say....oh, this is vandalism. It's NOT!!!! Arglebargle79 (talk) 21:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Arglebargle79: Saying "the new electoral law designed to prevent the Five Star Movement from taking power" is vandalism, simply because it's your own opinion, without any source to prove it; and writing about "chaos" and "collapse", well maybe it's true but isn't absolutely encyclopedic. -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you asked me to add a few references or looked them up yourself, that would be fine. but you didn't. BTW, if you go here you will notice that it is no opinion. Arglebargle79 (talk) 21:56, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Arglebargle79: The law penalizes the M5S because it legitimately refuse to create pre-electoral coalitions, as it penalize all the other parties which run alone. -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but M5S was the only one getting over two percent of the vote, so in fact, it targeted them and them alone while pretending not to. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. BTW, I added referencesArglebargle79 (talk) 22:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You're at 3rr and no one has warned the IP or I would have blocked it. So please, don't revert again. If the IP reverts, report them or if I'm around I'll block. Ok?Doug Weller talk 06:37, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: Ok, thank you, if the IP reverts again, I'll tell you immediately. -- Nick.mon (talk) 07:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Check to see if I'm currently editing. I'm on holiday and might be out on a walk.Doug Weller talk 07:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doug Weller, excuse me but the IP has reverted me again... -- Nick.mon (talk) 06:51, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As the IP seems to genuinely believe they are right, I've semi-protected the page for a week and explained on the IP's talk page that they need to get consensus and to do that they'll need sources backing them. Doug Weller talk 07:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, have a good holiday! -- Nick.mon (talk) 07:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Ciao Nick, cosa ne pensi di questa fonte?

Political atlas of the Modern World Year 2011 By Andre Melville, Yuri Polunin , Mikhail Ilyin and Others. in this Book talks about comparison between a cluster analysis of eight major powers" exertin maximun influence on the International Arena ( China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, UK and the US). [1] LuigiPortaro29 (talk) 19:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LuigiPortaro29: Ciao! Secondo me va benissimo, sperando possa andar bene anche agli altri. Anche se da quel che ricordo per ora siamo 3 utenti a favore e 2 contro, quindi dovrebbe esserci la maggioranza per cambiare la versione attuale. -- Nick.mon (talk) 19:17, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick.mon: Ciao caro Nick, Potresti gentilmente aggiungere quella fonte alla lista dell'Italia dopo il 2010? , sembra che non ci siano problemi, (io purtroppo non sono capace di dare un nome e taggare la fonte). purtroppo abbiamo soltanto una fonte dopo il 2010, con quella fonte saranno due fonti, poi vedremmo se potremmo avere altre fonti, grazie della tua gentilezza!.LuigiPortaro29 (talk) 14:50, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LuigiPortaro29: Fatto! Figurati non c’è di che, in ogni caso speriamo di trovare qualcos’altro ma già così mi pare piu che accettabile. -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:59, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Bishonen: Sorry, you’re right, however I uncollapsed the infobox because it was the only collapsed one I’ve ever seen in 6 years on Wikipedia and I thought that it was quite useless. -- Nick.mon (talk) 12:28, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Why do you claim for "truth" [sic]? It is not formulated as statement of fact (as neither the former evaluation it counters), but as assessment (which also happens to come from a qualified author de:Jan-Werner Müller). Best regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Asqueladd: Well, my main focus was to remove a completely not encyclopedic sentence, like when you write using abbreviations or when you insert quote like "conveniently forgotten" like if the main newspapers wanted deliberately discredit Conte and his cabinet, and frankly it's not true :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 16:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is a kind of synth I didn't notice about the newspapers, but isolated, it may work perfectly as encyclopedic sentence (abbreviations aside). It is not fringe but made by one of the foremost scholars on "populism". I've read anyways similar takes on the issue of Berlusconi predating this government by Duncan McDonnell and Cas Mudde. If it is needed, I'll try to find them.--Asqueladd (talk) 17:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Asqueladd: No problem, we can keep your edit, but maybe we could remove "conveniently forgotten" (which, I repeat, according to me is quite biased) and stating: "while other important authors and political commentators like Müller, McDonnell and Mudde, did not agree, considering Berlusconi's governments the first real populist cabinets in Western Europe", but this is only a proposal. However INMHO Berlusconi was a sort of "classical populist" leader but he was (or better is) quite different from Salvini and the new populists who are shocking Europe in these years. -- Nick.mon (talk) 11:15, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. It's probably for the best to get to the point without bringing a literal quote. I am in no rush. I've found this one for Mudde ([2]). For McDonnell I am still trying to find a proper source (only a tweet so far). Regards---Asqueladd (talk) 11:33, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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So my problem with the image is that the white bar of your tricolore is curved, as if it is a folded page--indeed, when I first glanced at it I thought the picture was a scan of a folded page, but it's obviously not, but then there's this difference between the non-distorted face and the "distorted" background. If it hadn't been white it wouldn't seem so odd. Anyway, I'm not going to mess with it, it's your call, but you responded with an edit summary so I thought I'd leave you a note as well. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: Yes maybe the photo’s background isn’t the best one, but I sincerely think it’s quite better than the others. However we can absolutely discuss about it, there’re no problems :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Meh--your call, like I said, but I wanted to explain why I thought it wasn't so great. There are a lot of things I'd want to discuss--pastries at Lake Garda, why Italians are such terrible drivers (!!!), whatever happened to Baggio and why did he have that hairdo, how I can get the DVD for La Piovra, but Berlusconi is not on my list, haha. Take care, Drmies (talk) 22:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey can I borrow $150 from you? :0 Drmies (talk) 22:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: Yes, you’re right, we should improve our driver style 😂 Well, Berlusconi’s hairdo is a real mistery, far more embarrassing than Trump’s one. Wow 150$ for “La Piovra”, I've never seen that TV series but it seems a bit too expensive, but we known, Italian products aren't so cheap 😅 -- Nick.mon (talk) 07:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Vif12vf: Thank you so much! It's a real pleasure seeing that your own work is appreciated :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 16:52, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It's right that black is one of their colours, by the Flag of Sardinia, but PATT and SVP have their colors from CSP/ÖVP and DZP/Union, and they use their color is customary green (e.g. Lega Nord is green although blue is the official color) Braganza (talk) 21:15, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Braganza: Yes, you're right, but if we can use an official color, I think we should do it. I sincerely don't know why PSd'Az has been represented with green, in so many articles here on en.Wiki; its official colors are quite clear. -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:45, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Muboshgu: Oh sorry, I didn't know that :) Ok, when I can I will change them. -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Ti scrivo in italiano per comodità: il colore di Giachetti qui mi sembra troppo simile a quello di Renzi (se guardi la tabella dei sondaggi si nota parecchio). Pensavo a un giallo chiaro (#FAFA37), non so però come scegli i colori. --Broncoviz (talk) 22:02, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Broncoviz: Ciao, si per me va benissimo anche il giallo chiaro, magari domani ci do un’occhiata. Personalmente userei quello di Minniti e di conseguenza ne troverei un altro per rappresentare l’ex ministro nella tabella dei sondaggi (ma è soltanto un parere personale...) Comunque avevo “scelto” quel colore per Giachetti perché un altro utente aveva utilizzato esattamente lo stesso colore di Renzi, allora ho cambiato la tonalità, ma per me possiamo usare tranquillamente un altro colore -- Nick.mon (talk) 23:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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