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I can't believe you deleted my companies page back in April of 2008. I didn't receive any e-mails stating that it would be done. It was an informative piece about our company that was encyclopedic in nature. We were not recruiting or promoting. Simply giving a background of the company. I know it was over a year ago but if you remember please explain yourself. The company is a visual effects company by the name of Look Effects, Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_Effects,_Inc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lookfx2 (talk • contribs)



I don't understand why the page i created on Gamma Phi Sigma was deleted. Can you explain this to me?? (16:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gphi1992 (talk • contribs)




Peace in our time

That's interesting I'll play with it for a while. As for various spellings - mispellings or changes in orthography - if you find an official (Azerbaijani gov't spelling) and the article is at the wrong spot, feel free to move it; that would be best. GEOnames has a mish-mash of old orthography and new, and as for misspellings, what is cannon today is a misspelling tomorrow. Hopefully, I haven't injected the misspellings by a bad copy job. What to do about the places that aren't on the official lists? Best to check Google for anything, and failing that: let's ask the editor who has access to the Russian language sources from the Soviet days. If it appears there, it's a former village; if it doesn't appear there, I'll concede it's best to axe it until something else turns up. By the way, several of the villages seem to have either consolidated or split over time: even the one over which we had the afd seems to have spun off an upper and lower version of the place. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What I'd suggest is comparing the settlements you;ve created with the Azerbaijan sites that Phlegm suggested and highlight the "grey" areas, e.g the articles which cannot be confirmed on more than one site other than a computer generated database. I know we don't have web inforamtion on most of thes eplaces sadly yet, but we can still compare with these more up to date sites from Azerbaijan to get some sort of verification for current naming and existrence. What would you say to this? If we find settlmeents which cannot be confirmed on the Azeri sites would you be willing to filter them out and stick to the ones that are confirmed on these sites?

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When you add the new reference, please don't delete the old one. I am putting pointers to the direct page at GEOnames. And, strictly speaking, it's GEOnames that is the source for much of the data - like the coordinates of the village and it's alternate names. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I went through Barda Rayon, and
Kazykurdaly has been moved to Qazıqurdalı (new spelling). The others are likely among Bala Ərəblər
,

Cimcimli, Cumalar,

Dilənçilər
, Hacallı, Hacılı, Hüseynalılar, Hüseynbəyli,
Kafarlı
, Kolayır, Mirasəfli, Nazırlı, Nəzirli, Qaradağlı, Qarağacı, Qaraməmmədli, Qaraqoyunlu, Qaratəpə, Qayalı, Qazaxlar, Qazaxlar, Qəhrəmanlı, Şahvəlilər, Təhlə, and Uğurbəyli at the Azeri source without articles. Now we need to tie them together. For Armenia, there was a good source for the renamings, and somewhere there is likely one for Azerbaijan - just needs to be found. The search begins... Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm sure most of the places exist under different names. I hope the TCSC site helps you in your search. Watch out for ones that are close to the edges of the rayon; they might be in a neighboring rayon. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the advice. There are quite a number of repeated village names within a rayon. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised given that the US was settled and named more systematically but there ends up being sometimes several places of the same name in the same state. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Azeri sources you found are quite good - which with some searching lead to various Azeri government sites that mention many of the villages not otherwise mentioned. Cites are being added. Which with help of my Turkish dictionary and rudimentary knowledge of Turkish I am now absorbing. So what have I found so far? The lists at TCSC, and other subpages, which you found, are quite accurate by way of being confirmed by other sources: Azeri media, sometimes gov't, the postal system, etc. I would regard the TCSC as a reliable source. Excellent job. The other related source here, and other subpages, is also reliably confirmed by various other sources, including basically the ones mentioned above. Excellent job, again.
So, what has been gleaned. The govt of Azerbaijan has divided the rayons into the capital city and a slew of (singular) bələdiyyəsi (most often translated as "municipalities"). The first source mentioned above gives these, with their populations. The second gives which villages (if more than one) belong to each bələdiyyəsi. I would add the municipality status information - and the population figures for the municipality - unless you and the Bald One think that it should not be added or that bələdiyyəsi should not be translated as "municipality". Do a quick google of the term and see what you get, but it seems that municipality is what the government sites in Azerbaijan use, and that's probably good enough proof for WP.
I'll put a notice on villages not found anywhere - have done some already, and I'm keeping a log of what's up: rayon by rayon here. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I believe you are correct on both points. Municipalities as used in most of Europe fill up the next larger place (exception: Germany has a few "free" areas that are mostly inaccessible or public park lands). Given the ethnic tensions I have little doubt that the Azeri authorities have renamed anything and everything Armenian; not necessarily so, Russian (as some names do survive; many with the ending "-ov"). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 06:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • On ethnic names, "-lar" is plural, and there are many names that have Kurd-, Arab-, Turk-, Turkmen-, Tat-, Hay- (few now), Ayrim, etc. from various ethnic groups. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 06:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch by the way on finding the Azeri sites with the population. I was virtually certian there was nothing

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Carlos's work today is looking very impressive I think.

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wha...?

You oppose breaking up the article into manageable chunks through transclusion, but you support transcluding entire separate articles with their subhead structure? Huh? Homunq (talk) 01:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes, because I think they are not manageable. The fact is that transcluding is weird, and I don't see how it solves any problems between editors and admins. Sorry. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 01:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transcluded *semi-protected* pages. It solves problems by reducing the stress on BLP-defenders, and thus the reasons to want full protection at all. If the whole thing stays protected, it solves little. But my original question was: how do you reconcile the two positions? If you are anti-trans, why are you also pro-trans? Homunq (talk) 01:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Political positions of Sarah Palin article has already been full-protected. This problem needs a social, not a technical, fix. Phlegm Rooster (talk)

Editing of Palin's article

In reviewing edits to Sarah Palin's article, I have some feedback to give you.

This edit has two problems. First, you restored the age despite clear consensus (in the formation of which you participated) archived to Talk:Sarah Palin/Archive 13#Levi Johnston's age to not include this young man's age in this article. Second, you marked the edit as minor despite knowing that your idea was strongly disagreed with.

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3rr On Palin

Hi I'd like to ask you not be so quick to revert others, like you did with my edit a few minutes ago. You made a number of edits to the article and it's not easy to determine which were edits and which were reverts so without being careful you can easily go through the limit. Hobartimus (talk) 13:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reverting it piecemeal counts as once. Please check my edit summaries on why your addition was inappropriate. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 13:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, just be careful since you have a lot of edits to the article. As a side note I saw that you were misunderstanding/not reading a few sources and replacing "voters" with "Americans" for example which is false, these are different groups, so with doing this you disconnected the text from the source. For example let me quote you Rasmussen "Now, following a Vice Presidential acceptance speech viewed live by more than 40 million people, Palin is viewed favorably by 58% of American voters.". Hobartimus (talk) 13:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They haven't voted yet, and Zogby is known for sloppiness. The only poll with voters is an election. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 14:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I actually qouted Rasmussen above not Zogby or I don't know what you meant. Look, you misunderstand "voters" is a subsection of "Americans" it's a completely different group they are not interchangeable when you change it you actually misrepresent the stats. Not every American is a "voter", and actually the numbers are different in the "Americans" category than in the "Voters" category. Consider this, for example if 1. A candidate has a big support among 18-25 year olds and 2. We know that only 10% of them are voters then this support must be discounted proportionally to get any sort of meaningful poll. You can't publish a poll in which you count this group with the same weight as a group that votes with 80% frequency. I suspect they ask questions like "Are you registered to vote?" or "How likely is it that you will vote on election day?" to determine who goes into the "voter" subsection but it is definitely not the same as the complete population and they have different numbers actually for the full population. Hobartimus (talk) 14:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes they even specify "voters" further as "likely voters" "registered voters" etc etc. Hobartimus (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As you can see, I used the term "potential voters" in the same section. Somebody else has rephrased it as "respondents", so I think the point is moot. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 14:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok it was a minor point anyway. Cheers. Hobartimus (talk) 15:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Edit Summeries

Will Do Sorry For the Incovinence CelesJalee (talk) 21:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

South Loop Printing House District

I am somewhat puzzled about your redirecting South Loop Printing House District, which is listed on the National Register, to another article about a different National Register district. I reverted you. I find it puzzling you did this directly without putting a merger proposal in place, commenting at the talk page, contacting me, or otherwise giving any notice. doncram (talk) 01:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • You're right, sorry. Two districts. I relied on my memory of a tour of Chicago. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 07:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. Before I start to read the "talk of today" at Sarah Palin, I wanted to connect with you. We seemed to have been the last one's in the room last night. (Maybe we should have turned off the light). O well...on a serious note. What is happening at the discussion is akin to two mighty rivers converging. The result is the mud and silt of the current talk page. (I havent read the article in 4 days) True...good soil for the crops of differing ideas, but confusing and difficult to wade thru. And, I am VERY MUCH un-concerned about the state of the article during its metemorphasis. My basic and initial problem was the imprisonment of the article by well-intentioned, but I believe, misguided, administrators. This act of disconnecting the article from the vast array of worthy and good faith editors and holding it in bondage where only the privileged few could sculpt it, goes against everything wiki. But, I'm afraid that in all the hubbub about the candidate, the REAL problem that occurred will be swept under the rug. You can be sure the ones with the brooms (or is it mops?) will NOT bring it back up. I firmly believe that a seperate thread should be started to keep what happened in open discussion, But there is just TOOOOOOOOO much going on at Sara Palin. Any suggestions?--Buster7 (talk) 00:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seems like it is a good idea, but I'll have to think about it. Maybe someplace will occur to me. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 00:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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