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You merged Manuscript Press with Rick Norwood. The article about me, Rick Norwood, was also proposed for deletion at the same time as the article Manuscript Press. Now, the proposal for the deletion of the article Rick Norwood has been relisted. The outcome, if the relisted proposal for deletion is successful, would be the deletion of both the article about me and the Manuscript Press article. I have two questions. First, if an article is proposed for deletion, and not deleted, can the proposal for deletion be relisted indefinitely? Second, is there any way to see the final decision and reasoning after an article is deleted? (As far as I can tell, a deleted article and its proposed for deletion page just vanish.) Thank you in advance for your replies. Rick Norwood (talk) 11:29, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

• I realized when I closed the AfD that the outcome might be that both articles would in the end be deleted. The AfD page is not deleted at all, but remains available (only in very rare cases -like contentious discussions about living persons- are they courtesy blanked, but even in those cases the contents remain visible in the history). Usually, a link to the AfD is given in the deletion log (see Sofia Chaudry for example). Relistings are routine if a discussion is still ongoing and there is no clear consensus. Second relistings also happen quite frequently, keeping a discussion open for 3 weeks. In rare cases there are even third relistings. Hope this helps. --Randykitty (talk) 12:49, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. That was exactly the information I needed. Rick Norwood (talk) 13:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I am no longer going to think the editor who accuses me of peddling falsehoods is worth any more time on my part. The "Hijacked Journal" misuse is his personal property, it appears, and I am outta there. Thank you for your comments, but I find reasoning with brick walls hurts me, and does little damage to the bricks. Collect (talk) 01:06, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

The "Hijacked Journal" misuse is his personal property, it appears. Again, it is not. Those are words from some other editor back from 2014, and the use of "hijacked journal" to designed the victims of hijacking is found in sources. I fully recognize that other sources use the term to apply to the perpetrators, possibly even a majority of these sources, but that's why the move request was made in the first place: to have an unambiguous title to refer to the concept of journal hijacking, so we can use a yet-to-be-determined, but nonetheless clear and unambiguous terms to refer to a) the fraud journals usurping the identities of real journal, and b) the real journals. However, one thing the proposal is most clearly not about is "to place the dysphemism aiming at the real journals". You are assuming an extreme amount of bad faith here, and an extreme amount of battleground mentality, with an extreme level of word twisting. And that, frankly, is getting rather annoying.

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• I commmented on the talk page of that article, where this discussion was taking place. Why is this now spilling over on my talk page? This whole issue is silly. You BOTH have good points, now we need to find an acceptable solution. --Randykitty (talk) 06:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear Randykitty, Can you please explain why you consider the amendment related to the Revue d'Intelligence Artificielle is "unsourced" and "off-topic". Sources are provided to French media. If you consider it off-topic then please constructively give examples of what is on-topic and suggest a better Wikipedia page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharaohscigar (talk • contribs) 10:19, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

• You're right, there are sources, I went a bit too fast. However, if you read the article on journal hijacking, you'll see that something completely different is meant there. What you describe is not the same thing. I have no good suggestion for another WP page where this might fit. One possibility is to write an article specifically about this journal (see
  our general criteria. Off topic: is your user name a reference to the Tintin album Les Cigares du Pharaon? --Randykitty (talk
  ) 10:30, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

• PS: I just checked. The journal is indexed in
  WP:NJOURNALS. Writing a stand-alone article on the journal therefore would be the best solution. Let me know when you do this and I'll help where necessary. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 10:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I therefore ask you to reconsider your deletion and carefully evaluate again whether the scope of the "Hijacked journal" page can be broadened a bit compared to its current scope. I think the comparison of the word "hijacking" with its use in geopolitics (aircraft hijacking) has some merit. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharaohscigar (talk • contribs) 11:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

• To the best of my knowledge, there are no sources discussing how buying a journal constitutes hijacking. Hijacking is an illegal act. What happened here, howver undesirable some may find it, was completely legal. It reminds me of the sale of Pulsus Group to OMICS Publishing Group... Distasteful, but not illegal... --Randykitty (talk) 11:44, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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• Flixtey, what's the use fo this? You unreviewed it and then marked it as reviewed in the very same minute? --Randykitty (talk) 09:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

• Randykitty, sorry this was a mistake I noticed I unreviewed it in an attempt to mark it for reviewed and this is why I reverted it again.--Flixtey (talk) 09:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

• That's fine, we all make mistakes, but next time don't leave a template on my talk, please :-) --Randykitty (talk) 10:19, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you for a nice one, which I added to the DYK archives of project opera. Extra praise for having started with an infobox ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Randykitty I am reaching out to you because you relisted the AfD for the above mentioned article (which I authored many years ago) just about a week ago, and the discussion has only received one other comment, yet still no other votes. After reading your user page, you seem to at least strive to be unbiased (which you acknowledge is humanly impossible) in your evaluation of Wikipedia articles, so I thought I would ask you to please review my latest comment on the AfD and, if you don't mind, provide me with any feedback you may have on the issue. My understanding was that AfD's typically last approximately 7-10 days before reaching a concensus, so now that we are approaching 14 days with very few editors weighing in, I thought I would reach out for some guidance. I understand there are likely many other AfD pages that must be reviewed and perhaps there are a small number of editors who review them, so if my expectations are out of line, feel free to correct me on that. I appreciate any assistance you may provide. The AfD in question can be found here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damon J. Smith

• Yes, this is a weird one, lots of comments, no !votes. In cases like this, it's quite common to relist the discussion, often even two times (for a total duration of 3 weeks). In exceptional cases, a debate can even be relisted a third time, so: patience! --Randykitty (talk) 07:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

OK, thank you for the response. We shall see what happens. Taryndejesus (talk) 14:49, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Randykitty, when you have a moment please see my last message in the talk page for Frontiers in Psychology. Youllneverwalkalone2019 (talk) 16:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear Randykitty! You have deleted the article White Frame but the article has been translated to German Wikipedia. With your deletion the article history is not readable any more but we need it because of copyright violation concerning the attribute BY of CC BY-SA 3.0 License. Please restore temporarily the article to user:Doc Taxon/White Frame with all revisions of the article history so that I am able to proceed the transfer to German Wikipedia. Thank you Doc Taxon (talk) 00:46, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

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• Done. Let me know when you have done the transfer and I'll delete it again per AfD. --Randykitty (talk) 06:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

  Thank you very much, push the button! Doc Taxon (talk) 18:50, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, would you be willing to add the content of Lois Murphy to my sandbox. If at such time that additional sources are found, I would run it by AfC first. Thanks --Enos733 (talk) 17:46, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

• Done, it's at User:Enos733/Lois Murphy. --Randykitty (talk) 21:28, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you --Enos733 (talk) 23:49, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Randykitty, Hi, as far as I'm concerned, I have done my best to improve the article Gernot Ludwig Windfuhr by adding significant independent sources for the author notability. please check, I hope it satisfies you now. - MA Javadi (talk) 20:42, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

• At first sight, it looks like all you added are wikilinks and three books by Windfuhr himself. However, on closer examination, Iranian Languages and Culture: Essays in Honor of Gernot Ludwig Windfuhr is not edited or written by Windfuhr (you should correct the reference, it's not published by Google and according to Amazon there are at least two editors). Mazda Publishers seems to be a decent publishing house, so to have a volume of essays published in his honor indicates notability. I'll remove the tag. --Randykitty (talk) 06:42, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear Randy, Hi, Thanks for your effort of corrections and guidelines you provided me, it helped me to learn a lot. I hope we can continue our cooperation and friendship -MA Javadi (talk) 18:45, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

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Yeah, thanks... for nothing! NostalgiaBuff97501 (talk) 18:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

• You're welcome. --Randykitty (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Randykitty, I was working on this article a few hours before you closed it. I don't know what I was thinking of - or not thinking of - in not commenting or voting in the AfD discussion - I did mean to. I am not sure that it would be enough to show notability, but I have added more information and references, including one from 1999 that describes preventive health work that she did, and awards to her and in her memory. There is more info that I could add. Would it be possible to reopen the AfD, so that I could mention these additions? Regards, RebeccaGreen (talk) 00:03, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

• Hi, this is the first time I get a request like this and I am a bit undecided about how to handle this. The AfD as it stood when I closed was very clear. There was one "keep" !vote, but "It looks OK to me" is a rather weak rationale, so I ignored it. That leaves 5 "delete" !votes thar are reasonably well policy-based. Above you say that you are not sure whether your additions would be enough to show notability, that doesn't sound like a strong "keep" !vote either, so to me it looks like the decision would still have been "delete", even if you had !voted. If you feel very strongly about this, I can re-open this, but all previous participants should be pinged (I guess that most people are like myself and remove AfDs from their watchlists once closed). Alternatively, I could userfy this for you, that would give you some more time to work on it. --Randykitty (talk) 13:07, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I think

• My pleasure! --Randykitty (talk) 17:02, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

• If your concern about keeping it in a sandbox was the loss of the article history, it would have been much more helpful to have moved the page with its history to either the placeholder I had created in my sandbox, or better, to one for JVadera who expressed continued interest as part of the ongoing discussion. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
• Where'd it go? Happy to keep editing and revisit, but where is the latest version? JVadera (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done I have draftified the article to Draft:Natani Notah. Please do not move it back to article space without addressing the problems noted in the AfD. Ideally, you should ask an admin to do this. --Randykitty (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey, RandyKitty! Would you be willing to userfy that List of Ohio wineries for me so I can use the info to expand Ohio wine without having to reresearch? I would have grabbed the info myself but I'd only chimed in minutes before it was closed. --valereee (talk) 15:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done It's at User:Valereee/List of wineries in Ohio. --Randykitty (talk) 15:31, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much, and whoops, sorry, just read the instructions at the top of the page asking me to go to refund instead! --valereee (talk) 16:29, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Another editor deleted

• Hi, I agree that it was perhaps only borderline promotional (but in my opinion at the wrong side of the border and the deleting admin apparently agreed). In any case, if a non-promotional article were created, I'd take it to AfD, as it most certainly isn't notable at this point: no independent sources and not indexed anywhere, not even in Elsevier's own Scopus. Listing in DOAJ only means that a journal is open access and probably not predatory. --Randykitty (talk) 12:44, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 13:21, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear

Dear Randykitty, could you please react on my message above? Thanks!--Stanislav Lohvinenko (talk) 13:52, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:TOOSOON, for example if Clarivate Analytics would decide to move this journal from ESCI to the Science Citation Index Expanded, or if Scopus would decide to include this journal, that would make it notable and an article could be created. Hope this helps. --Randykitty (talk

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Hi Randykitty, could you please elaborate on your reasons for relisting the

• It's only the second relist and theer's nothing exceptional to that. And as I said, up till now the discussion has been weak, so I don't see what the harm is in seeing whether some better-argumented !votes can be found. --Randykitty (talk) 05:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

• You're right. For some reason, I thought this was a third re-list. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 05:31, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the confusion arises because the subject has been listed for deletion three times, and therefore only been relisted for deletion twice. There is only one post recommending the article be deleted. Rick Norwood (talk) 11:46, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear

 Done --Randykitty (talk) 07:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking Gowtham pothuraju (u t c m l b p d). I was preparing to file at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Scholarscentral, at least one account with similar editing pattern remains unblocked, Chiruracha (u t c m l b p d), and as that account was a sleeper created in 2018, a CU might be warranted. But what do you think? Sam Sailor 07:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

• No need to waste time on a CU, I've indeffed them. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --Randykitty (talk) 09:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi there Randykitty! You deleted a section of the Journal of Geek Studies article and I understand your reasons. I had plans to expand the content, with brief descriptive text on the contents of each article on that list. Would that have fixed the situation, or would it still be unsuitable for WP? --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 12:13, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, but, yes, that would also be completely unsuitable for WP. If you want to describe content, you'll need secondary sources independent of the magazine (which are unlikely to exist, I fear). --Randykitty (talk) 12:36, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

It's okay =)! Thank you for the info. --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 12:38, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Randykitty! I figured the article itself would be deleted soon after. Well, just to clarify things, I did not copy any previous version of it (heck I would never know where to find the previous versions to begin with). I wrote that stub down, but some of the text was modified from the magazine's website, hence the similarity. Also, I used a different kind of infobox this time (for magazines, not journals). Nevertheless, Is there any way to submit a draft or something to be evaluated before creation? I just felt awful to have wasted your time.--Daniel Cavallari (talk) 02:40, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but I find that hard to believe. You "modified" the text from their website in exactly the same way as was done before, up to the last comma? Quite unlikely. And if you have no access to the previous version, then how can you know that the infobox is different? Anyway, as to your question, you can create articles in

draft space, work on them, and then submit them for evaluation and possible creation in article space. Hope this helps. --Randykitty (talk

) 07:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

I know about the infobox because I wrote the last version and I remember what I did... I also could have saved the previous text to use it in a second try, but I did not. This situation is very weird, and I am sorry if I offended you or the other editors in any way, but would it be too much if asked you to give me some credit? I know this is not personal (I hope), but even though I am not as active as I was in the past, I have dedicated a lot of my time to improve the content here at En Wikipedia. And I've done so diligently and with no self-interest in mind. I don't know how I could prove this to you, but I typed every character in this last version aside from the text I copied and modified from the magazine's website (its cc by 4.0 nc, and I made it not entirely verbatim). And now I am really curious about this situation. Would you be so kind as to provide me with na URL to the 2015 version of the article? I honestly do not know where to find it. Anyway, thanks for the draft space suggestion! It will be very useful =) --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

So you changed usernames? Because the old version was created by

G4. --Randykitty (talk

) 13:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

It is true, now that you mention it, Rodrigo created the article. That I didn't remember! But I believe I've contributed with it to some extent? Because I do remember it was deleted because the magazine lacked notability and all. Geez I -am- getting old. Very well, I understand and I am sorry for the confusion. Best wishes! --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 13:08, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Can you give some advice about how to proceed with addressing the problems on this article? Based on my analysis of the article's sources on this talk page, I think that this person probably is not notable enough to deserve his own article, and that that's why it's been impossible to make an article about him of acceptable quality. But I don't know whether the solution is to post about the article at the BLP noticeboard, or to create an AFD discussion for the article, or how one goes about doing the second option. 2600:1004:B12A:CD0D:D06A:9024:AD05:56A5 (talk) 21:21, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

• If you think that he doesn't meet our inclusion guideliens, then AfD is the way to go. If you feel that he's being treated unjustly, then the noticeboard is more appropriate. Personally, I don't intend to get involved here. I obtained a copy of his book at the time, but that's a long time ago and I don't remember much beyond some sniggering and head shaking and laying it aside never to look at again. --Randykitty (talk) 21:32, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Grayfell also suggested to post at the BLP noticeboard, so I've done that now.

I have one question about the BLP noticeboard: I notice some posts at that noticeboard never receive a response by anyone, and mine has thus far been more than 24 hours without a response. Is there any way to make it more likely that a post at the BLP noticeboard will receive a response? Atsme and DGG both helped to address the similar issues on the Gottfredson article, so I would like their help with the current issue also, but Grayfell implied that it's bad etiquette to request involvement from specific people in these discussions. 2600:1004:B16D:5C56:A176:D64A:299B:2E4A (talk) 04:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

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		Keep up the good work. My apologies. We have had differences of opinion in the past. ☎ ) 20:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks and don't worry about differences of opinion. People are passionate about WP, so tempers sometimes get a bit heated, that's all part of it. I have a short memory for this kind of things, so frankly I don't remember any differences with you, honestly. Happy editing! --Randykitty (talk) 22:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Randykitty,

You have deleted this paid article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atul_Srivastava 23rd September 2015 Just see how he and his partners pushed the same WP article after 4 years (12 February 2019) through back door. Please see his userpages .... These paid writers are passed out of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:User:Dharmadhyaksha/Atul_Srivastava

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Dharmadhyaksha/Atul_Srivastava&action=edit&redlink=1

There are other two paid articles created by the same group of writers....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Awana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagat_Rawat

Regards

Swami Pundit SwamiPundit (talk) 11:18, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks for bringing the Atul Srivastava article to my attention. It was identical to the version deleted after an AfD, so I have deleted it as a recreation. As for the other two, I'm not into Indian cinema, so I can't evaluate their significance. I recommend that you take them to
  WP:COIN. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 12:42, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

• But you don't have to remove "the" at the start of each sentence. It's not bolded, so clearly not part of the official name. If "the" is part of the official name, it needs to be included in the infobox and the article moved. --Randykitty (talk) 09:55, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I will check the three journals and move them if needed. --Taweetham (talk) 09:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Could you please kindly do the move from "Journal of Physical Chemistry Letters" to "The Journal of Physical Chemistry Letters"? The page exists already. --Taweetham (talk) 10:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

The infobox in some articles does not have title. Do you recommend that we add them in or leave it to take the default from the article name? --Taweetham (talk) 10:21, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

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@Headbomb: Thank you. I've added |title= to the infobox and requested a page move. --Taweetham (talk) 00:12, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply to my query: User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_24#Close_of_Articles_for_deletion/Pattie_W._Van_Hook. This is not a priority for me (as you can gather from my delay in replying), but if you could userfy it for me, I can see if I find more about her. I had just found some sources from some years after her death, which gave more info and a wider perspective, so it's possible there is notability there. Many thanks, RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done It's at User:RebeccaGreen/Pattie W. Van Hook. --Randykitty (talk) 12:38, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:56, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Dear, Please unprotect the page Manan Shah which you protected on 10 November 2015. I can create the same in a good way as I am an experienced Wikipedian. Radadiyageet (talk) 16:26, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

• Hi, the best way of doing this is creating a draft (at
  submit if for creation. Another editor will then evaluate the article and if it is judged good enough, it will be moved to article space by an admin. Hope this helps. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 16:52, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi RandyKitty, you performed the deletion of the Netrality article recently as it was found to not meet Notability guidelines after discussion. I wanted to check with you to see if it was appropriate for me to now resubmit the article for review, as Netrality has been featured in additional non-trade publications due to a recent announcement since deletion. Thank you for your consideration! --Mikiepc (talk) 17:13, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

• Hi, I have for you the same advice as for the query just above this one, only you should create your article at Draft:Netrality. --Randykitty (talk) 16:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Dear, Please unprotect the page Anish Luitel which you protected on 19 May 2019. I can create the same in a good way as I am an experienced Wikipedian. I need to publish his article as I am fully aware about policies of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram khadka010 (talk • contribs)

I see 1 edit [[1]],, is it possible you've attempted to create this page before?

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) 15:26, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, somebody attempted to create this page and unfortunately they got blocked. Now, i want to create this article but Anish Luitel page is protected. So, i request you to unprotect the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram khadka010 (talk • contribs)

So someone was blocked today and the article was protected? I'm curious how are you familiar with this, with one edit it would be a far more likely assumption is that you are that editor who has simply created a new account?

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) 15:54, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

That editor is my friend, he made a mistake and get the page protected. Now,I am here to create that page because i want to publish it as i am a good wikipedian. So, i request you to uprotect the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram khadka010 (talk • contribs)

Based on the facts of the situation that is unlikely to happen, the original editor was being paid to create the article. I highly doubt that you are his friend and even if you are, as an experienced wikipedian, you'd understand the policies in regards to paid contributions and

talk

) 16:10, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

• Hell in a Bucket. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 16:52, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

I wanted to thank you for the time and efforts you give towards making Wikipedia a better place. Your willingness to make tough, but policy baed, decisions to find and implement consensus in Articles for Deletion discussions is much appreciated by me. The fact that you accompany this with efforts to bring new editors into the fold and welcome them shows commitment to the community as well. Thanks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

• Why, thank you so much for your kind words! --Randykitty (talk) 19:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Randykitty, You salted this page a while ago. I have reviewed

 Done --Randykitty (talk) 07:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi RandyKitty, you have protected the title Anish Luitel from creation. The page has also been deleted which is due to recreation and unambiguous advertising or promotion. I wanted to check with you to see if it was appropriate for me to now resubmit the article for review, as the article has been written in a better way with proper reliable sources and advertising or promotion has also been removed. Thank you for your consideration! --Harikatwal

• Please familiarize yourself with
  WP:DUCK. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 14:00, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

• quack. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 09:03, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

• Panther (owarai) · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

There is not enough evidence to warrant a deletion, see deletion discussion for this page, all claims for deletion have little to no substantial reason for deletion while all claims to keep have given more reason for non-deletion —FreshUdon (talk) 14:17, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

• I have reviewed the AfD and don't see any reason to change my close. If you disagree or if new information has become available, you should go to
  WP:DRV. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 14:36, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

• What do you believe is missing for the article to be undeleted? I can improve upon the article so it meets your expectations for undeletion. If necessary I can add a filmography or media category detailing every single television appearance they have made. Please let me know. FreshUdon (talk) 15:41, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

• None of that would help. The only thing that would allow re-creation of the article would be if you could find
  reliable sources independent of the subject, that discuss the subject in-depth and were not yet present during the AfD discussion. --Randykitty (talk) 15:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)::::*Why are the source provided for them by Natalie (website) not considered a reliable source independent of the subject? Natalie is one of Japan's largest entertainment website and company and details the subject in depth with their profile, news and television appearances. This was posted in AfD discussion which I believe is reliable evidence for notability. There are many other Japanese entertainment and news sites with details on the subject, some example links are here:[2] - All Night Nippon, [3] - GQ Japan, [4] - Oricon News, [5] - Abema Times. Just a few examples out of the numerous articles that I believe is enough evidence to show notability for the entertainer. - FreshUdon (talk
  ) 15:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

• I really don't know. It is not the function of the closer to evaluate sources, but to determine consensus. Again, if you disagree with the close or have new sources, take this to DRV. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 15:59, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Randykitty, nowadays the art-Language journal is very rare, and there are only 4 or 5 complete sets existing. They are all part of museums collections. The history of this seminal group is highly dependant on its contributors, this list gives a clear indication on yearly basis about who wrote for the journal, reason for this list of contributors to be encyclopedic. The same reasons go for the distributors, I invite you to check their wikipedia articles. Given that to know who did what in the group is almost impossible, I think that this first indications about who wrote for the journal and who was a distributor is of vital importance for the article. I could maybe built a wikitable with the number, the names and the dates if you think it is more convenient or clear? All my very best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, without
  synthesis. A table wouldn't be any better... --Randykitty (talk
  ) 16:44, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
  • I am now understanding the problem. I didn't cite
    independent reliable sources because all the names of all the contributors are written on the journal covers (see [6]) and the names of the distributors are on the back cover. You are right, I should have mentionned this fact in the article. What do you think of a short sentence like: "Given the desire for anonymity attached to the members of the group, it is difficult to know who did what in Art & Language. Nevertheless, the journal mentions the names of its contributors and distributors". Best, --Philippe49730 (talk
    ) 10:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

• That's exactly the problem, what you describe is
  synthesis, a no-no on the English WP. If you have a source for that phrase it can be inserted. If it is something that you conclude from your sources, it's SYNTH/OR and cannot be included. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 09:01, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

• Would they be relevant enough? (1) p.100 and (2) From the artist's voice in ArtReview.--Philippe49730 (talk) 17:32, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

• That first source looks good, both reliable and independent as far as I can see. FOr the second one I have the impression that it is more a personal reminiscence, which can be used to document the ideas of the author, but not much else. BTW, I think that merging the article on the magazine with that on the movement would avoid a lot of the duplication that we now have and make for a more consequential article. --Randykitty (talk) 17:54, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

• Many thanks for your time. All my very best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 10:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

• Thank you very much for your intervention on Art & Language, I am also thinking that it is a shame for wikipedia that such important artists have a poor article. I would be very pleased to help if you are considering to improve it. By the way, I don't think it would be accurate to merge Art-Language in Art & Language as I took great care building the article on Art-Language and think it is much better than the article Art & Language. Do you think it would be relevant to bring to discussion the status of Charles Harrison on the talk page of the article? As he was both a reknown academic and a member of Art & Language, his writings are both primary and secondary sources. This would be of great help for the article once sorted out what to use and when. Best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 10:44, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

• I don't intend to spend a lot of time on these two articles, as art is not really my subject (journals and magazines are). But merging the two articles makes a lot of sense to me, as there is some duplication already now. Merging the magazine into the article on the group does not mean that this material has to descend to the level of the rest of the article and may inspire other editors to ,improve the rest (if you don't want to do this yourself). --Randykitty (talk) 12:17, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I will answer about both Art & Language and Art-Language here. Many artworks of Art & Language would deserve their own article on english wikipedia as they are already existing on other wikis (french, spanish, english), and at some point I could check and translate them into english. Art-Language is one of them even if I understand that for a journal specialist it sounds weird to consider it as an artwork, but for an art specialist it is often the case that a book become an artwork. Incidently, you removed the informations about museum exhibitions dedicated to the journal or including it and the list of museum collections where the journal can be found. It took me a lot of time to gather all of these informations and I would be very pleased you could give me a solution as I have noticed you also removed the list of artworks on the Art & Language article. Should I do separate list articles (List of Artworks by Art & Language, List of Art-Language journals). Best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Please note that different language WPs have different inclusion standards. The English WP is much more stringent than many others with regard to sourcing and notability. That articles exist in other WPs is therefore completely irrelevant here. No, please don't do separate list articles. WP is not for indiscriminate lists of information. If artworks have been the subject of independent reliable sources, then they could appear within the existing articles in "selected works" sections. You write that the lists I removed from the magazine article were about the journal. That was not clear to me, but I'll have a second look tomorrow (no time right now). It does illustrate that the existence of two separate articles is confusing. --Randykitty (talk) 17:15, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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I don't like perpetually saying "he or she", or using "they" as a singular, or any of the other clumsy ways of avoiding the issue. So I like to check before referring to editors by a personal pronoun. "Hmm", I think, "I seem to remember Randykitty is "she", but I'll just have a look and make sure". I find you haven't set the answer in your Wikipedia preferences, so I look at your user page instead, to see if you give the information there. "No." ... "Oh, wait a minute, yes, she's in the category Female Wikipedians, so I was right." So, back to the talk page post I am writing and in goes "she". Then for some reason or other I have another look at the user page. He's in the category Male Wikipedians too. Miranda = female? Yes, but that's not his real name. Jeffrey = male? Yes, but she refuses to confirm or deny that apparent outing. Grrr. Anger. Here am I trying to do the right thing, and being messed about.

• Hi James, I sympathize, really. In an ideal world, we'd all edit using our real names. But the world is not ideal and as a result I don't give any personal info, not even my gender of lack thereof. Miranda was a female cat, but of course that doesn't say anything about me... So I'm happy with "he", "she", or singular "they", (in alphabetical order) whatever you prefer. :-) --Randykitty (talk) 21:01, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Randykitty is obviously the Wikipedian embodiment of

b

} 22:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

• I like the "intelligent" and definitely don't make any claims about my sanity! :-DD --Randykitty (talk) 22:14, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello,

I noticed that Tannim101 left a message for you on a closed AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of paramedic practice). I have reverted (as it is closed) and have placed the message below for you:

What evidence would you like to support the assertion that this is the central UK paramedic peer-reviewed journal? Tannim101 (talk) 15:42, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

They have currently submitted a draft to AfC for this article (Draft:Journal of paramedic practice). Pinging @Tannim101: to include them in this discussion. Thanks, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 19:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks
  WP:NJournals. I recommend Tannim101 to familiarize themselves with those. If this draft would be moved to main article space, either G4 would apply or I would take it to AfD again. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 19:35, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Page for Journal of Paramedic Practice now contains multiple citations showing the journal is significant in relation to UK prehospital care education and practice. Page now contains more external citations than similar academic/clinical journals Tannim101 (talk) 19:36, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

• Please see my comments on Dreamy's talk page. --Randykitty (talk) 21:16, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

You have closed it as delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sameera Aziz (2nd nomination) but the article Sameera Aziz has not been deleted.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

• That's weird, the script did remove backlinks. I'll fix this now, thanks for bringing this to my attention! --Randykitty (talk) 07:03, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for the user of first person language, of the article Sriyog. I mistakenly used first person grammatical as it should be in third person. Can you undo the task, please? Give me a chance to correct my doings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haribanshnp (talk • contribs)

 Not done Changing the article to third person would not make it less promotional. it's spam and I don't see how it could be improved. Better to start from scratch. --Randykitty (talk) 14:37, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for considering my request to un-delete Laila Alawa. While I recognize the issues that were brought up with regards to strengthening sources, the article was that of a businesswoman who has also published significant research & worked with the DHS on nationwide efforts. There is not enough evidence to warrant a deletion, see deletion discussion for this page. All claims for deletion provided little reason for deletion, while all claims to keep gave links, resources & information that warranted a non-deletion. While I recognize your reason, I'm requesting that the chance for being able to rewrite the page be given. --Decolonizingyourmind (talk) 20:29, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done I have looked at this again and see no reason to change my close. If you feel that I did not evaluate consensus correctly, you can take this to

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Hi Randykitty. Want to ask for your understanding re: the SIGGRAPH Conference page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGGRAPH ) You'll notice that multiple users including myself find the information you've deleted very important and relevant. I represent the SIGGRAPH community and care deeply about the people who volunteer to make the Conference happen. I am grateful to editors like yourself for your interest and hope you understand the opinions of the rest of us. I've heard about "edit wars" and don't want to be part of one. Will take this to dispute resolution if you think that is best. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrencewiki (talk • contribs) 22:00, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

• You're of course free to take this to dispute resolution. Make sure you read
  WP:COI before you do so. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk
  ) 07:10, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Randykitty, Journal of Fungi which you deleted previously is now live in Scopus, which you can check at: Journal of Fungi on Scopus. Please undo delete so that we can edit it further. Thank you. The previous page is at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Journal_of_Fungi MiCocx —Preceding undated comment added 05:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

• WP:JWG gives lots of tips on how to create a good journal article). You can just edit the current redirect (Journal of Fungi). --Randykitty (talk
  ) 10:35, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

This is not fair. We are valuable international jounrnal. Why you reject JRTDD inclusion into Wikipedia? How is possible Macedonian Journal of Medical Sciences to be included and we are not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vladotra (talk • contribs) 17:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

See

WP:NJOURNALS and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Writing_guide#Getting_started

. In particular "This makes it hard for newly established journals to get an article on Wikipedia, as they usually have not had time to become influential journals."

The scholarship going on at JRTDD may indeed be of value to the world. But we don't care about that. What we care about is if anyone took note of this journal, and if it is considered to have influence in academia, good, or bad. For all we know, JRTDD will be dead in a year because no one reads it. Or maybe it will become a great journal.

b

} 17:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

As Headbomb says, the journal is too young

WP:NJournals. --Randykitty (talk

) 21:00, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

(

reliable published independent sources which discuss the topic, and write that article. The journal might even be worth a mention within that article, if it is the key publication in the field, in which case you could redirect the journal title to that section of the article. I see that although the draft article on the journal says it publishes work "from all the fields of reattach therapy, psychology, special education, rehabilitation, social policy, and the related sciences", the journal's own "Editorial and publishing policies" page says "The mission of Journal for ReAttach Therapy and Developmental Diversities is to facilitate the equitable global dissemination of high-quality disability and diversity research; to promote international dialogue and collaboration on health issues; to improve special education; and to expand and deepen the understanding of rehabilitation sciences." and the "About this journal" page specifies "Covers Psychology, Special Education and Rehabilitation sciences, Disability Studies, Medical Aspects of Disability, Pedagogy, Social Work and Social Policy." without explicitly mentioning ReAttach Therapy, which seems slightly strange, though presumably it's included in one or more of those categories. PamD

07:34, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@

WP:COI. Your editor name and use of "we" suggest that you might be the editor in chief (note the email address) of the journal. If so you should not be writing an article about the journal: Wikipedia is not for promoting your journal. PamD

07:41, 19 June 2019 (UTC)