User talk:Troy 07/Archive 3

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Go ahead. I have no reason to say "no". ~ Troy (talk) 22:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Troy, please consider adding this template to your user page, and please let others know about it:

Thanks! --Lanternix (talk) 04:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Lanternix/userboxes/BiasedARWiki

Ah, I think I'll pass. I don't want to cause any conflicts here. ~ Troy (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello Troy 07! I would like to move the article

I'm actually not sure. It looks like most guys don't agree on the talk page. ~ Troy (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

It's nice to see you again, and thanks for the tip.

Check your email for a laugh!

J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, you're right about that vandal. That's why I spotted his accounts-perhaps a little too obvious, eh? XD ~ Troy (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, there is a link from the talk page on this article to you, but no content relevant. Roger Pearse (talk) 16:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

That's OK. Nice work, though :) ~ Troy (talk) 18:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I've blocked Suppressturds indef and listed the accounts at

Thanks for the revert! John Sloan (

chat

) 01:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries =) we're all in this together! ~ Troy (talk) 01:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Please play somewhere else.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Unless you have something useful to say, stay away from my talk page. ~ Troy (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm talking about this[[1]], and the cute warning you left on my talkpage. Yopu can apologize if you made an error.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:47, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I use an anti-vandal tool; I didn't literally go and revert on your talk page as, otherwise, I would have noticed. ~ Troy (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Then please go clean your mistake up.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. ~ Troy (talk) 00:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry if I was tesy, but you could understand my irritation. I thought it was willful and on purpose. Happy editing, sorry about my confusion.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries, I understand. As well, I apologize for adding the warning in the first place. ~ Troy (talk) 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Accident, you've already been unblocked Request handled by: Jac16888Talk 02:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I can only apologize. What a mess up. You reverted the edit to

No worries! I've seen it happen to other people before ...but it was certainly enough to scare me for a sec. ~ Troy (talk) 02:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. I've blocked quite a few users and never done that before (and hope not to do it again). Apparently developers can oversight certain types of logs (see Wikipedia:Oversight#Oversighting of log entries. I'm not sure this is available for block logs, but Id' be willing to try if you'd like.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

It's alright; I'm fine the way it is. Should the autoblock be removed, or do I wait until it expires? ~ Troy (talk) 02:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Autoblock unblocked. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! :) ~ Troy (talk) 02:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Although I've also replied on my talk page, I wanted to leave a record on yours to thank you for your kind words and the Barnstar. That was very kind of you and although I'm happy to just be helping the community, that really made my day. Thank you! ZX81 ^talk 00:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing ^_^ It's people like yourself that deserve to be recognized. ~ Troy (talk) 00:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I think this page should be deleted. Can you delete it as it is of no use to anyone.

Reallikeunreal (talk) 14:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. You'll have to ask an

nominate it for deletion. ~ Troy (talk

) 00:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! --Lanternix (talk) 04:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

{{Biased Arabic Wikipedia}}

Ah, I think I'll pass. I don't want to cause any conflicts here. ~ Troy (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello Troy 07! I would like to move the article

I'm actually not sure. It looks like most guys don't agree on the talk page. ~ Troy (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

It's nice to see you again, and thanks for the tip.

Check your email for a laugh!

J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, you're right about that vandal. That's why I spotted his accounts-perhaps a little too obvious, eh? XD ~ Troy (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, there is a link from the talk page on this article to you, but no content relevant. Roger Pearse (talk) 16:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

That's OK. Nice work, though :) ~ Troy (talk) 18:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it interesting how it's come to this? Life started out as just single-celled organisms, which evolved by means beyond our comprehension until humans came about, with brains so advanced that we can perceive with perfect clarity the world around us and process information at universally significant depths. Well, this insane evolution and incredible reality has culminated in my particular brain telling my fingers to type on your Wikipedia user page. I'm typing right now. It's happening and you're not going to stop it, although I do figure you will act in your own best interests and REVERT this page so my inane comment no longer can be seen by other humans. I'll finish by saying the N-word. N-word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaabi (talk • contribs) 19:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I've blocked Suppressturds indef and listed the accounts at

Thanks for the revert! John Sloan (

chat

) 01:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries =) we're all in this together! ~ Troy (talk) 01:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Please play somewhere else.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Unless you have something useful to say, stay away from my talk page. ~ Troy (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm talking about this[[2]], and the cute warning you left on my talkpage. Yopu can apologize if you made an error.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:47, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I use an anti-vandal tool; I didn't literally go and revert on your talk page as, otherwise, I would have noticed. ~ Troy (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Then please go clean your mistake up.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. ~ Troy (talk) 00:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry if I was tesy, but you could understand my irritation. I thought it was willful and on purpose. Happy editing, sorry about my confusion.Die4Dixie (talk) 00:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries, I understand. As well, I apologize for adding the warning in the first place. ~ Troy (talk) 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I'll keep an eye on it. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 05:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, open proxy on port 80. Blocked for five years. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 03:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. ~ Troy (talk) 05:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Good job reverting the vandalism on my user page. I appreciate it :) Trusilver 02:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries! :) ~ Troy (talk) 02:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

lol Yeah it's been fun. I was thankful that you finally let me get a couple of reverts in, I was getting tired of seeing "Cannot rollback, page was edited by Troy" ;) I'd thought about requesting semi-protection, but I knew that the Superbowl would be over soon enough and it'd all die down. Great job tonight! Cheers! Apparition^{11 Complaints}/Mistakes 03:26, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

What's happening with this article: I saw the ping pong edits! I have made a few changes of my own but no reaction from those other eds as yet. Can you tell me this: there has been deductive logic and deductive arguments for centuries. Now there appears to be deducutive reasoning as well When it comes down to it is deductive reasoning just reasoning using deductive arguments or am I missing something? If it IS more than that then articel deos not make that clear. If it IS NOT more than that then what need for a special article, wby not just redirect to Argument (logic) wherin deducutive arguments are discussed. Just asking, mind.--Philogo (talk) 01:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

It's actually quite simple: they're

WP:RFP (which I probably should have done by now, but too lazy). ~ Troy (talk

) 02:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Its the Cookie Monster (talk) has given you a cup of tea, for taking the time to weather a dispute. Thanks for staying calm and civil! Tea somehow promotes WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a tea, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy!

Spread the lovely, warm, refreshing goodness of tea by adding {{

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Thanks for the tea! ~ Troy (talk) 04:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Its hard to screw up when you just copy and paste! Its the personal messages that get ya! To a long and sucessful carrer! --Its the Cookie Monster (talk) 04:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It has been a long wiki career indeed, but perhaps success will follow ;) ~ Troy (talk) 04:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Good day. I've just protected your user page. Feel free to contact me, or other admins if you want it lifted. Best regards, --Kanonkas :  Talk  22:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I should be able to request unprotection once things settle down a little. ~ Troy (talk) 23:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Troy,

I respectefully disagree with your deletion of my addition to the above page. While i do agree to some extent that Wikipedia is not a directory, however there is a provision for creating lists such as this one. I'm not including any other contact details of the priests other than their name, the idea being to make the list of churches complete by identifying the priests who serve in each church.

There are many precedences in wikipedia and i can't list them all here (for example the list of bishops of the holy synod of the coptic church and other orthodox churches whether on wikipedia or orthodox wiki). It simply allows people to go to one place if they are looking for a church in the United States, find the name of the priest and contact him through looking him up on google or whitepage.

I will not undo it just yet, but please consider my point of view. If you like, as you suggested, i can split the article up into various sub-lists (for example create separate articles for each diocese listing the priests there)

your thoughts and suggestions are welcome, i'm only trying to help provide some useful information.

Regards

Nader —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadermeleka (talk • contribs) 03:53, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that's simply not an option, per Wikipedia guidelines. Nonetheless, it has already been discussed, and I'm not really interested in another discussion on the same thing. You have an option to create articles, but listing things like that is a no no here because this isn't the yellowpages. External links are even avoidable, although I have kept them to avoid any issues and they can be supplanted with article links, which are really the only viable option. You can feel free create articles and link them, but I can't allow you to break the policy and list things you shouldn't. Cheers, ~ Troy (talk) 04:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry on behalf of my semi-retirement. Feel free to sign your name under the "Signatures" section. It's been very pleasant working with you. Good luck to you and your Grawp/JarlaxleArtemis project. SF3 ^(talk!) 21:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

In that case, I have signed under that section. 'Tis a shame that you're too busy, but such is life. Good luck! ~ Troy (talk) 22:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, now I switched retirement positions and I am now "officially" retired. Good luck to your future editing! And by the way, how's the Grawp project you and I were working on? (Please respond on my talk page) SF3 ^(talk!) 01:08, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it's already been  Done by some other admins. Cheers, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 13:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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You can just contact me on my talk page or by e-mail and I'll take care of it. Just give me a brief outline of why the user in question matches the sockpuppeteer's MO. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • February 2, 2009 @ 05:17

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I got two emails indicating that requests were made by User:64.34.217.25 to change my password on the English and Arabic Wikipedia. I checked the IP here, and it seems that he has made two edits to your talk page, which looked like they were threats that were permanently deleted. Do you know who this person is? -Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 00:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

It must be a

Jarl/Grawp IP sock. His email abuse is quite common; all you can do is undo the abuse. ~ Troy (talk

) 00:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I am not sure why I have become his target but at least I know it is not Lanternix. -Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 01:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I am still concerned as to whether this should be reported or not. Not sure how he found me since I did not post on your talk page. Perhaps he is looking through your contributions. Whatever the case is, I am still wondering if something can be done about it. -Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 01:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I understand. I still have a feeling that if I stopped contributing, he'd just be wikistalking other users more. That's really annoying. ~ Troy (talk) 01:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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Greetings Troy 07,

Nice to meet you.

Could you kindly help me translate this article into the Coptic language? Please.

كنيسة يسوع الحقيقى هى كنيسه مستقله تم انشاؤها في بكين ، الصين فى عام 1917. وانتخب الرئيس الحالي للجمعيه الدوليه اللى هو الواعظ - يونج جي لين. : النهارده ، فيه يقارب ما بين 1،5 الى 2،5 مليون و المؤمنين في خمسة واربعين بلد في القارات الست. الكنيسة الصينية هي فرع من فرع العنصره المسيحيه اللى برزت خلال اوائل القرن العشرين. كمان هي واحدة من تلات كنايس اصليه صينيه كانت قايمة قبل استيلاء الشيوعيين من الصين فى عام 1949. هدف الكنيسه التبشير بالانجيل لجميع الامم قبل المجيء الثاني للمسيح. المباديء العشرة الأساسية:

1. الروح القدس
2. التعميد
3. غسيل الأقدام
4. العشاء الرباني
5. يوم الراحةَ
6. السيد المسيح
7. الإنجيل
8. الخلاص
9. الكنيسة
10. يوم القيامة

Your help would be very Gratefully Appreciated, Thankyou very much. --Jose77 (talk) 07:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jose77. It's nice to meet you too. I'd be glad to help, but to be honest, I have had some trouble myself in trying to translate into Coptic. So, I think it would make sense to try doing the numbered list first in order to get something started here soon. ~ Troy (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright then. Here is the text for the numbers. It is best displayed with the New Athena Unicode font on Firefox 3.5, as instructed in this Coptic Wikisource test page. Feel free to copy from the edit box:

1. Ⲡⲓ ̀ⲡⲛⲉⲩⲙⲁ ⲉⲑⲟⲩⲁⲃ
2. Ⲉⲡⲉⲥⲏⲧ
3. Ⲣⲁⲧ ϫⲓⲛϫⲱⲕⲉⲙ
4. Ⲉϫⲱⲣϩ ̀Ⲡⲟ̅ⲥ̅
5. Ⲉϩⲟⲟⲩ ̀ⲛϩⲏⲧ
6. Ⲓⲏ̅ⲥ̅ Ⲡⲭ̅ⲥ̅
7. Ⲉⲩⲁⲅⲅⲉⲗⲓⲟⲛ
8. Ϫⲓⲛⲛⲟϩⲉⲙ
9. Ϯⲉⲕ ̀ⲕⲗⲏⲥⲓⲁ
10. Ⲉϩⲟⲟⲩ ̀ⲛⲧⲱⲛϥ

I don't know to what extent the content body can be translated, or in which dialect (Bohairic is easier to understand now, but is farther from the original Sahidic dialect because of Greek influences). I also see that you contacted Lanternix; either one of us can attempt translating it, but I am not quite sure how his results would compare to mine. ~ Troy (talk) 00:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou Troy 07 for your awesome translation effort! I am very Grateful.

Here is the English version:

The "True Jesus Church" is an independent church that was established in Beijing, China in 1917. Today, there are approximately 2.5 million members in forty eight countries and six continents. The church belongs to the Pentecostal group of Christianity that emerged during the early twentieth century. They aim to preach the gospel to all nations before the Second Coming of Jesus. The ten main beliefs of the church are:

1. Holy Spirit
2. Baptism
3. Feet Washing
4. Holy Communion
5. Sabbath Day
6. Jesus Christ
7. The Bible
8. Salvation
9. The church
10. Final Judgement

Could you translate the English version into the awesome Coptic language? It may be easier to translate directly from English (because the 'communism' part has been left out)

Just try your best effort. --Jose77 (talk) 00:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, here it comes:

"Ϯⲉⲕ ̀ⲕⲗⲏⲥⲓⲁ ̀ⲛⲁⲗⲏⲑⲓⲛⲟⲛ Ⲓⲏ̅ⲥ̅" ⲡⲉ ⲟⲩϮⲉⲕ ̀ⲕⲗⲏⲥⲓⲁ ⲁⲩⲧⲟⲕⲣⲁⲧⲱⲣ ⲫⲁⲓ ⲁⲥⲧⲁϩⲟ ⲉⲣⲁⲧ Ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡⲉⲕⲓⲛⲟ, Ⲕⲓⲛⲁ ϩⲛ ⲁ̿ϣ̅ⲓ̅ⲝ̅. ⲘⲪⲟⲟⲩ, ⲛⲁⲓ ⲛⲉ ⲕⲱⲧⲉ ⲃ̅ ⳽ ϣⲟ ̀ⲛϣⲟ ϣⲗⲱⲗ Ϧⲉⲛ ⲇ̅ⲏ̅ ϩⲁⲛⲕⲁϩⲓ ⲟⲩⲟϩ ⲋ̅ ϩⲁⲛⲏⲡⲉⲓⲣⲟⲥ. Ϯⲉⲕ ̀ⲕⲗⲏⲥⲓⲁ ⲑⲁ ϫⲓⲛϣⲉⲙϣⲓ ̀ⲙⲠⲉⲛⲧⲏⲕⲟⲥⲧⲟⲥ
...this is the first part-I went up to "established". I am going to have to look up place names first before I can proceed. ~ Troy (talk) 00:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Using modern Greek, I found the Coptic equivalents and inserted the appropriate diatrics. I have found that this is the best way to achieve modern Coptic text as Greek is the closest known language to Coptic which is still used to describe modern values; still pending more translating, though. ~ Troy (talk) 01:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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You put on a [page User_talk:82.132.136.201] a year ago that a user was the same as another IP (currently an IP I have) because they are registered to the same address as that IP, but that address is the address of an ISP. Perhaps you should make sure you know what you are talking about before trying to intimidate people with your knowledge. 82.132.136.200 (talk) 20:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

When I try to view your Coptic language translation above my computer just shows lots of squares. I clearly need to download some font pack or something. I have a new laptop that runs on Windows Vista. Any suggestions? ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 20:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

To view it correctly, it should only require the New Athena Unicode font (v. 3.5). Otherwise, try following the steps outlined here. ~ Troy (talk) 21:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

There is a user that continuously vandalizes the article Egyptians by removing the composite picture on top. Please consider restoring this abuse because I've already reverted it twice today. Thanks! --Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ^[talk] 16:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello! As you may know, I retired last spring, but I have been visiting Wikipedia much more often than I thought I would. I feel rather refreshed right now as I make this edit. Feel free to respond on my talk page. Hope you're having a great day/night! Schfifty3 02:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello Troy,

This is BVS, We would like to report continous Vandalism by user (nadermeleka) and his friend (Orthopraxia) who are trying to delete and revert sections of the article to help them in their ultimate goals.

As you now, Weikpedia is not the place for any battles nor who is right or who is wrong (Truth Rule). They have been asked to do so for specific reasons. As you may recall we discussed this matter before and the reason they specifically choosed to contact you, is that seeing that you and I discussed this matter before, they thought they can take a boost and be one ste ahead doing that (as I may recall you are a Coptic Orthodox guy from Australia).

Please remind them one more time that Wikipedia is not a battle zone and is not the place to fight or have battles whether they think they are right or wrong or being asked to do that (Truth Rule). We have corrected this matter several times, but they insist on doing so and they have a 24 hours shifts to accomplish there goals.

Before we take the matter to another level within Wikipedia claims, we would like to ask for your help and to explain to them that they should NOT revert any information made at good faith efforts done by other users. They have been caught red-handed doing so and they admitted that. We will restore it one more time, but if they do NOT stop, then we are really asking for you help to stop this vandalism.

Wikipedia is NOT the place to attack other people good faith editing, to fight, to dispute or to claim the (Truth Rule).

If they do NOT stop, then we are asking you to take specific actions against them after giving them a warning.

Wikipedia rules need to be respected despite any church internal disputes and no matter were they stand in it.

(Orthopraxia) already received several vandalism warnings previously and is known to engage in edit wars (Check his talk).

Thank you for your help & support.

Bvs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bvs1925 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Troy,

There is a user (Bvs1925) who continues to vandalise the page "Holy Synod of the Coptic Orthodox church" by adding fake links and incorrect name of a bishop. I warned him several times and undid his edits but he continues to add them in again. Please block him from editing this page and any other pages he has previously vandalised. I noticed he had been previously warned and blocked a few months ago from editing other pages.

Thank you in advance ~nadermeleka —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadermeleka (talk • contribs) 23:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Troy,

I conccure with Nader Meleka regarding the vandalism from user (Bvs1925) in the page "Holy Synod of the Coptic Church". Bothe Nader and I reverted his addition of an unexisting bishop "Bishop Mina" for the unexisting diocese of Fresno, but he kept on reverting back. He also put a website link as a proof for his addition, but this site, apparently has replaced (I don't know how) the original site of the Fresno parish (in question) and is only discussing accusations and internal disputes with that parish's priest, who apparently is backed up by some bishops without the knowledge of the Pope of Alexandria and has no references whatsoever with a name or proof of a consecrated bishop for that parish or the region of Fresno as claimed. Anyway, I hope that there is a way to stop this vandalism. I did not revert his last vandalism yet for you to see it yourself. I hate to see a page that I created get vandalized continuously as such. I appreciate your help. Thank you. Orthopraxia (talk) 21:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Troy,

I need your help regarding another attempt to vandalize the same page. This time it is (User talk: 71.195.186.130), I am not sure if it's the same person or not (using a different designation or not). I reverted several times his vandalism and made several notes for him/her to stop, but in vain. I left a message to Grim 23, who apparently had addressed a problem with that person before. If there is a way to prevent this person, please do. Thank you Orthopraxia (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Troy,

Just for your information, please read the following messages I sent to Lanternix based on his message to me and acopy I forwarded to BVS 1925. Here is the copy: Hello BVS 1925,

This message I sent to lanternix and I am forwarding a copy for your information. I hope you get the message behind the message and be aware that we are all aware of your attempts and we will take action.

P.S.: By "All", I mean all who have interest to keep Wekipedia pages free from inaccurate information or lies and a theater of personal wars within parsihes! I am in contact with many and they all agree on this cllective stance. Here is the copied message:

Hi Lanternix,

This is quite a ridiculous situation, both BVS 125 and IP Address 71.195.186.130, unless they are the same person, are engaged in a very weird and persistant vandalism in most of the pages related to the Cptic Orthodox Church by insisting of the addition of a fake or non existant bishop of an non existant diocese. I have warned them but to no avail. Here is the fact of the matter and they are aware of it, if that information was true, no one would have any mind or even thing to such an addition, everyone wants to have the number of bishops and dioceses of the Coptic orthodox Church grow every day, but to add such an information, the following need to be done: 1) To have any confirmation from theHoly Synod of the Coptic Orthodox Vhurch about such a diocese or bishop. This is non existant and they know that very well. 2) Whoever reads the contents of the so-called Fresno diocesan website, notes that there is a mojor feud among the members of the congregation of that parish (not diocese0 and the apparently imposed priest on them, to the point of having serious disagreement about several investigations done by several bishops about that feud. 3)The title of the website states that the so-called bishop is called Mina the Ischariot, which meens the treator among the ecclesiastical parlance, which in turn means that the website is created to mock the whole idea of the bishop and the diocese, by saying that the people of that parish are suffering from an imposed clergy, who is backed by some bishops as it claims, comparing him with Judas the Ischariot and have an episcopal imposition. Accordingly, this website does not proof the existance of a diocese or a bishop but mocks them. 4) It is clear that the image provided for that so-called bishop is composed or superimposed. by matching episcopal vestments on the face of that priest.

It becomes evident that the reason behind the insistance for adding such an addition in many Coptic Orthodox Church related pages on Wikipedia, is an attempt to propagate the apparent injustice imposed on that parish, by mocking the priest, by making him a bishop and the parish a diocese. So these two fellows are actually against that priest and they using Wikipedia pages as a tool of their WAR against that priest and whoever fllows him and protects him. I even suspect that they/he have created that webpage for the sake of such mokery.

So the WAR here is from these two gentlemen (or gentleman, if it's only one person) and all I, you and others are doing is stoping them/him from doing this persisting vandalism.

If they/he can provide a document or documents from the Holy Synod of the Coptic Orthodox Church about such addition, creation of a diocese, consecration of such bishop, date of consecration and by whom and where from a reliable source, then by all means this addition is welcomed. Of course you know and I know that this will never happen. I am copying this message on the User talk page of BVS 125 for his information.

I will never stop preventing the vandalism they/he are/is doing and I hope that you would do the same. If you have the means to ban them/him permanently, please do so, since obviously they have an agenda of their own. Thanks.Orthopraxia (talk) 00:25, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Troy, This/these people need to be stopped. thanks Orthopraxia (talk) 00:29, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello Troy,

We read Orthopraxia comments and here are our responses to it:

1) Mr. Orthopraxia is trying to analyze the Diocese of Fresno status in order to reach conclusions that leads to a truth from his own opinion (Truth Rule). Also, we are very well capable of answering his arguments, Wikipedia is not found to be a war zone or to prove one party is right and the other party is wrong (Truth Rule).

2) Orthopraxia being extremely interested in our Diocese's status raises red flags about who is behind him and what goals is he trying to achieve. He is very likely to be driven by a request of another Bishop who is supporting Bishop Mena. (And he knows who is the person we are talking about !!!). Again, Wikipedia is not the place for WAR regarding any Church internal disputes.

3) Orthopraxia, is trying to discuss the method used in choosing Bishop Mena and whether he was chosen by the members of the Diocese of through any other method? Thus taking the discussion into the root of the church well-known dispute to achieve his goal of eliminating the Diocese information from Wikipedia and scoring it.

4) The Diocese information has the right to be listed in Wikipedia despite the disagreement going on between several Bishops. We in the Diocese maintain open door policy and accept the others opinions (Please see the link to Bishop Athanasius's TV program having problems with Fr. Mena (later on Bishop Mena) and we never deleted that.

5) Orthopraxia and his friend are fellows of Bishop Ermia and trying to achieve his goals by eliminating the presence of the Diocese (because it is against their best interest).

6) We will never stop demanding our right to have the Diocese of Fresno listed in Wikipedia (because its presence is a fact) and widely known to everybody) desite attempts to deny it.

7) I (Bvs) can easily stop this silly editing war with these (2) Users, if they agree to stay away from us and abide the Wikipedia rules regarding editing other people's work and the (Truth Rule).

8) Finally, I want you to think about this (What is it for Orthopraxoia and his friend in it?), what would make them come from nowhere to start bothering the Fresno Coptic people in their diocese? Is that happening out of their goodwill? Are they making 24 hours shifts to focus on this subject out of their good nature? The answer is obvious, we in Fresno, know who is behind them and they know that we know !!!!!

9) Finally, and despite the fact of the friendship with Orthopraxia, we are still asking you to activate the Wikipedia rules regarding: a) Editing Rules for editing other user's work. b) Truth rules, c) All applicable other rules.

10) Although, we have 250 members in our diocese that can easily join Wikipedia to protect their right to have religious information on Wikipedia and get into what Orthopraxia wants to drag us to, and this will end up that he either stop his vandalism of our diocese information or will end up blocking 250 users who will come back again to defend their religion. We will not make any announcements or recommendations to the Fresno Coptic families in the diocese regarding their rights to be present in Wikipedia until you make your final decision.

11) We will also, take this matter to another level with Wikipedia because his requests are completely unacceptable. He already had (6) vandalism warnings and it makes us wonder how many warnings does it take for him to stop. We are fed up with these acts.

Thank you for your understanding.

Bvs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bvs1925 (talk • contribs) 02:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I am an amateur linguist, and am constantly studying new languages. The Coptic language fascinates me. However, probably because of the configuration, I find myself unable to study it online. I have never found a book on the Coptic language in any bookstore. Could you possibly tell me where I could find a good one? All the best-

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In the spirit of Christmas, the spotlight for the coming month might actually best be on those people closest to you. We know that a lot of our editors here are associated in some way or another with schools, and many if not most of them are going on rather extended breaks for the holidays. This can give some of us a chance to meet up with old friends, spend time with our families and those close to us, and, in a sense, "recharge" for the new year. So, for all of you who are in some way part of that group, we wish you the very best of holidays. We hope you all return to editing after the holidays with your spirits lifted and with your energies at peak level. There are some small matters in development here as well, and it is our hope that some of them will be ready come the next newsletter. But, until then, we wish you all the happiest and holiest (if appropriate) holidays.

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