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Spoiled child
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This is unencyclopaedic mess of
WP:TNT at the very least. TarnishedPathtalk 03:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. TarnishedPathtalk 03:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I think, rename to something like Spoiling (parenting). Definitely A very notable concept there, must be fixable. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - WP:NOTEVERYTHING This doesn't stop at defining the subject, but sections of "Potential causes", "Differential diagnosis", "Prevention", " Treatment" . Wikipedia should not be giving medical definitions and possible ways to handle it. — Maile (talk) 19:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)- Keep per Hyperbolick
- Perfecnot (talk) 03:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep, this concept is very notable. While it's true this article in its current state is essentially just someones ]
- WP:TNT.]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC) - Would comment as well, not necessarily strictly psychological, additionally a term in literature and history. Hyperbolick (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I seriously doubt the competence of all the !keep voters. Not just subject matter competence, but wiki/afd policy competence. What's next? Let's create WP:TNT article. This is outside the scope of wikipedia, and should not be recreated. — hako9 (talk) 02:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)]
- Notably the creator of this article got permabanned for creating/editing exactly this sort of content and not taking advice over many years that they needed to stop. TarnishedPathtalk 02:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Imagine a parent of "spoiled" child reading the article and the child suffering the consequences. — hako9 (talk) 03:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, this is exactly the sort of pseudo-health advice which shouldn't be on Wikipedia. TarnishedPathtalk 07:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I retort, WP:SOFIXIT. Not unfixable -- could use Alfie Kohn's The Myth of the Spoiled Child to debunk notions obviously popular enough to require a book just to debunk them. Term has 5K+ Google Scholar articles. Just improvable, not outside the scope. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)]
- Create an article on the book you mentioned. Or write a effin blog.
Term has 5K+ Google Scholar articles
. How many hits does happy child, naughty child, sad child or say, adventurous child have. Find some books on those too. — hako9 (talk) 08:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)- Nah, think I’ll keep it right here. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Create an article on the book you mentioned. Or write a effin blog.
- I retort,
- Agreed, this is exactly the sort of pseudo-health advice which shouldn't be on Wikipedia. TarnishedPathtalk 07:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Imagine a parent of "spoiled" child reading the article and the child suffering the consequences. — hako9 (talk) 03:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Notably the creator of this article got permabanned for creating/editing exactly this sort of content and not taking advice over many years that they needed to stop. TarnishedPathtalk 02:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm undecided between delete or reduce to a stub with TNT. I removed one completely unreferenced section which said literally nothing. Then I got to the "Treatment" section and that is what convinced me that the majority of the article is no good. The idea that a physician can prescribe "treatment" for a "spoiled" child is clear pseudo-medical misinformation and potentially harmful to our readers and their children. I think that the only way to save this, if we even want to, would be to move the referencing into the lede (which is not too bad) and then ditch the body entirely to make a stub. --DanielRigal (talk) 15:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Psychology-related deletion discussions. DanielRigal (talk) 15:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This is so obviously notable a concept in popular culture that ]
- If what you're claiming is true then it needs a WP:OR and dangerous pseudo-medical advise as we see with the current article. TarnishedPathtalk 05:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)]
- If what you're claiming is true then it needs a