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Category:Wikipedia CD Selection

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 25#Category:Wikipedia CD Selection

Category:Dark Moor

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: With only a subcategory for albums, the group doesn't require an eponymous parent category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:John Lithgow

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: Is an eponymous category really needed for what amounts to two articles? StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Skull Base

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:52, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: I don't think it really helps to isolate these articles in a small subcategory. But if kept, the category needs to be renamed to either Category:Skull base (because there's no need for the capital B) or Category:Base of skull (because that's the name of the main article). Pichpich (talk) 22:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it can be helpful to have a more specific tag of "Skull base" or "Base of skull" since it adds information for readers. For example, an article on the facial nerve could fall under the category "Nerves," but that doesn't mean it shouldn't also be tagged "Cranial nerves." Prophylax (talk) 21:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Assistant directors

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge both to
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: Not defining. People are described as filmmakers or directors. Mason (talk) 21:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cistugo

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: This is the only genus in the family so the category should be the family name, similar to Category:Thyropteridae Enwebb (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Captive people

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 25#Category:Captive people

Category:Fictional victims of human experimentation

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The result of the discussion was: rename to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: The title of this category uses loaded language when it says "victims", implying that any form of human experimentation is a crime. Or, at the very least, it's unnecessarily narrow, limiting itself to criminal experiments. This would appear to make it a
WP:ARBITRARYCAT; the proposed name would make it less arbitrary. They could still appear in Category:Fictional crime victims or Category:Fictional hostages and kidnapped people if said experiments were evil. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Silent protagonists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: There are multiple problems with this category. First of all, "silent protagonist" doesn't imply you're mute. Second of all, many of these protagonists do talk or make noise at some point, leading to potential edit warring as to what exactly "silent" means. This is much better as a list, if necessary, than a category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alt merge to Category:Fictional mute characters instead. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most of them are not mute characters, they are only unheard from our perspective. If they were truly mute, none of the other characters would understand them. Rarely speaking also doesn't mean mute.
Category:Fictional mute characters should only encompass the speaking disorder in order to make sure there is no confusion or alternate interpretations. I'm not saying silent protagonists aren't a thing, but I'm not sure a category's the best way to classify them. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:41, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge per nom. Oppose alt merge per zxcvbnm. Mason (talk) 22:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge and oppose the alternate, per nominator. I see how this is too arbitrary and prone to edit warring. Shooterwalker (talk) 14:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom, then open a new CfD on Category:Fictional mute characters per objection to alt. Kirby mostly speaks gibberish. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Museums dedicated to James Norman Hall

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: per
WP:SMALLCAT. Category:Museums devoted to one artist may also be trivial and perhaps should be deleted as well. User:Namiba 20:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Underwater diving on Guam

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The result of the discussion was: rename. No consensus to delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: The other category uses "in" as do all the diving sites (e.g. Category:Underwater diving sites in Guam‎, Category:Underwater diving in the United Kingdom‎) Mason (talk) 01:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 19:37, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename per
    WP:C2C, consistency with established category tree names. (If the category and subcategory should be merged, that can be handled in a subsequent nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:59, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1972 disasters in Ireland

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The result of the discussion was: keep.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Superfluous category. At this moment, 13 out of 14 articles in this category are either bombings and shootings. Not disasters. When cleaned up, nearly nothing is left. The Banner talk 17:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, acts of terrorism belong to man-made disasters. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose per Marcocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French Quebecers

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Category:Dutch South African

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category of Category:Dutch diaspora in South Africa under different name Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2023–24 PHF season

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: The season was canceled, the league folded, and there is no chance for growth. The lone article is already in the subcategory. User:Namiba 16:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:European Mexican

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Basically duplicates under different names. Both are about diasporas and should be merged. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Dutch Caribbean

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Category:Convocations of the Mazhilis

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Category:1st-century Irish people

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. Semi-isolated from nearest sibling. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:42, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Development of individual fictional characters

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Category:Tai people

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. The
Tai people are a language group. Mason (talk) 04:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Texas secession movements

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Category:Architecture records by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. this category has only one page in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 03:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Architecture in Ghana by century

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in each of these categories, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 03:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Moreover, diffusion of architecture by century does not make a lot of sense because it will largely duplicate the buildings and structures tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:16th-century debut plays

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is unhelpful for navigation with only one play in it. Mason (talk) 02:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Novels by country and century of setting

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:19, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 02:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bahraini writers by genre

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:19, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one genre in here, and I'm not sure if poetry counts as a genre. Mason (talk) 02:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:19th-century Bahraini people

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:19, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only category member in this entire tree isn't notable until the 20th century. Mason (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment What category would these be upmerged to? Shouldn't this be a nomination for a Merge, not a Deletion? Liz Read! Talk! 21:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In theory it would be upmerged to 19th century poets, but the only person in the tree isn't notable in the 19th century. I'm not opposed to recreation if there were notable 19th-century Bahraini people, but there aren't at the moment. Mason (talk) 02:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete All for now per Nom and above clarification. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:18th-century Bangladeshi people

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: This category is effectively empty. Bangladesh doesn't exist until 1971. Mason (talk) 02:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Meitei people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation. The only "occupation" in here isn't actually about people from that ethnic group, but is for actors in "Meitei cinema". Mason (talk) 02:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Avon Grove Graduates

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: 2-article category. If kept, should be renamed Avon Grove alumni Gjs238 (talk) 02:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:18th-century Meitei people

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge (for now?). This category isn't helpful for navigation as there are only two people in here, and I don't think we really need to diffuse ethnicity by century for this category. Mason (talk) 02:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now per
    WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Recipients of Polish presidential pardons

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: This is a weird category. Just one entry, and incorrect - in the time of People's Republic of Poland, there were no presidential pardons, the pardons were awarded by a different body (State Council of the Polish People's Republic), and so the corresponding category on Poland for that period (the one that would be correct for the single bio currently listed in the nominated category) is Category:Recipients of pardons from the State Council of the Polish People's Republic - pl:Kategoria:Ułaskawieni przez Radę Państwa (Polska Ludowa)). Now, presidential pardons existed in Poland before and after that period, but it is confusing to group them like this (since it would mean the period of 1918-1952 and 1989-present, more or less). Pl wiki instead has separate subcategories for different periods, something we should replicate one day (see Kategoria:Ułaskawieni w Polsce). In the meantime, this needs to go. PS. Also, there's no parent Category:Recipients of presidential pardons to worry about and I am not sure if this would ever be needed (but maybe one day we will categorize pardons by pardoning body? If so, for Poland this likely should be just an empty container for the more detailed periods anyway). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:21, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nobility from Japan

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure what the difference between these two categories is? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge. Looks like a recently created duplicate by a relatively new user. Mason (talk) 02:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge. per above. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Countesses of Barcelona

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 25#Category:Countesses of Barcelona

Category:Countesses of Ribagorza

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Does not seem to be a defining feature for the only page member. Also worth noting that there is no equivalent category for "Count of Ribagorza" Mason (talk) 01:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, the article is about a queen consort, this countess title is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:20th-century American people by occupation and state

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Same issue as the other category Mason (talk) 00:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's not enough occupations in here to justify a subcategory. It's not helpful for navigation to have only one category in here. Mason (talk) 01:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Transgender prostitutes

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Category:Proposed National parks in Wales

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to Category:National parks in Wales, I created it mistakenly long ago and only actually has one real entry (the N.E.W. NP), the proposed national park is to replace CRDV (which isn't an NP). And only recently created the proposed article so while there are now two entries there really should be one, and therefore the category isn't really needed. DankJae 23:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Selectively merge per nom, only one article needs to be recategorized. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for clarity then given it's not (yet) a national park, nor granted the designation. Already sufficiently interlinked in the main article. Respublik (talk) 22:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Western Samoa

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Category:Travelers in Asia Minor

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: Traveling in "Asia Minor" is not defining Mason (talk) 04:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle, but I think that Category:Explorers of West Asia is a better merge target. Multiple of these people travelled in various Middle Eastern countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think this is a fair alternative, only I am not sure we can say these territories were previously undescribed (as I think they should be for the travel to count as exploration) - they are known via classical geographers such as Strabo, for example. If Anatolia/Asia Minor can be retained instead of West Asia that would be preferable because more specific. I am aware that no equivalent categories are available for most other regions and for much larger geographical units. The benefit of keeping the list as it is would be that it is already specific to Anatolia/Asia Minor which is quite a substantial and well-defined region. I guess it depends on what detail of coverage Wikipedia is aiming for. VampaVampa (talk) 11:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose tentatively. Since I added the category I could perhaps clarify it and attempt to defend its viability (not necessarily its name). The category was intended to bring together biographies of archaeologists, historians and classicists who left
    Mediterranean parts of West Asia as well as Anatolia. Many of the "travelers in Asia Minor" were also antiquarians and Orientalists, which might give another way of renaming the category. This peculiar usage of "traveler" has its tradition in scholarly literature - this is what the title of C. H. E. Haspels's memoirs refers to: I am the last of the travelers. VampaVampa (talk) 01:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Lean Toward Alt Merge to Category:Explorers of West Asia to better convey what I think the intent is here. @VampaVampa: I'd welcome your perspective though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support Alt Merge. Apologies, I seem to have misunderstood how a merge works above when responding to Marcocapelle's original proposal. Renaming as "Explorers of Asia Minor" or "Explorers of Anatolia" and adding as subcategory to the Category:Explorers of West Asia seems perfectly reasonable. The category already contains subcategories highly similar in scope and content to this one. VampaVampa (talk) 23:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support alt merge. I think that the alter merge target is an improvement and fits with the content Mason (talk) 01:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Firmed up my iVote above based on the category creator's feedback. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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VampaVampa (talk) 08:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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