Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 2
September 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 2, 2021.
U.S. Route 14 Business (Pierre, South Dakota)
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- U.S. Route 14 Business (Pierre, South Dakota) → Special routes of U.S. Route 14#Pierre business route (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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U.S. Route 13 Truck (Prospect Park, Pennsylvania)
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- U.S. Route 13 Truck (Prospect Park, Pennsylvania) → Special routes of U.S. Route 13#Prospect Park, PA truck route (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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In defense of bad music
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 15#In defense of bad music
Rapid aging
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Progeroid syndromes. signed, Rosguill talk 05:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Rapid aging → Soap opera rapid aging syndrome (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Should probably be retargeted to progeria or progeroid syndromes, perhaps with a hatnote at the eventual target Mlb96 (talk) 19:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Comment progeroid syndromes might be a better target since "Premature aging"redirects there. --Lenticel (talk) 10:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to talk) 10:36, 4 September 2021 (UTC)]
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Alessandro Micheli
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- Alessandro Micheli → Pankow (German band) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Davide Ragonesi → Pankow (German band) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not members of the German band Pankow. Their only mention is in the writing credits for one song on the compilation album Funky Alternatives Seven for an Italian band named Pankow , which has no article on English Wikipedia. Micheli isn't even mentioned in the Italian Wikipage, while Ragonesi is listed as a former band member. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Treasure Trove Cove
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- Treasure Trove Cove → Banjo-Kazooie (video game) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. Searching indicate this is the "second level" of this video game. Without being mentioned, fails
- Keep - Google suggests that there are no other significant uses of this phrase that aren't related to the video game. Wikipedia is not a game guide, but if readers are looking for information on an element of the video game, they won't be astonished arriving at an article about the game itself. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)]
- Delete: This redirect is not mentioned in the target article. ―Susmuffin Talk 08:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. This is another case of an element of a game, book, etc being unique to that work but not being notable enough to justify the existence of a redirect. talk) 11:04, 4 September 2021 (UTC)]
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Paid advocacy
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 13#Paid advocacy
Kang Hye-won
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to ]
- Kang Hye-won → Kang Ye-won (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Confusing redirect. It seems that the article
- Delete per nominator. Clear WP:R#D2 case. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 23:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)]
- If anything, it could be retargeted to Stefan2 (talk) 23:50, 22 August 2021 (UTC)]
- Retarget to Iz*One per Stefan2. I don't see why not. Note that Kang Hye-won (singer) already redirects there, though since she's a former member, we may need to update those if she becomes independently notable, joins another group, etc. --BDD (talk) 03:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to Iz*One per nom and BDD. CycloneYoris talk! 09:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. And then anybody can make redirect. Sawol (talk) 08:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Iz*One per Stefan2. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 14:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to Iz*One. The name is without a doubt most associated with the former Iz*one member. Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 00:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
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Live your best
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Generic phrase not mentioned at the target. While it could plausibly be a marketing slogan, internet search results primarily return matches from contexts unrelated to Zevia. signed, Rosguill talk 13:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - excessively vague. It does seem to be something that a celebrity said one time in a promotional video about the product, but it doesn't appear that it was picked up as a slogan, certainly not prominently. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 14:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep the product is not heavily marketed but this is the slogan, you can see it in this ad spot: https://www.ispot.tv/ad/d5Fl/zevia-live-your-best-brent-fikowski. UserTwoSix (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Seems to be primarily associated with the saying ]
- Delete: The target is obviously not the main topic. ―Susmuffin Talk 08:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Pim's
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Jaffa Cakes#Other brands. This discussion appears unanimous to me other than minor details, I don't know why it was relisted. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
PiM's is a biscuit-like cake produced by the Kraft Foods brand Lefèvre-Utile, as disambiguation page for PIMS reflects in "Other Uses". So it is proposed to retarget Pim's to
- Retarget I might say to PIMS which has both on it. UserTwoSix (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. I have noted that Lefèvre-Utile is a redirect to LU (biscuits), so this one could be the target, or PIMS, but also, as the French wiki do, to Jaffa Cakes (after including some kind of "international versions" section) Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)]
- I have created a small section in the Jaffa Cakes article to include PiM's and the Polish version (with a photo I took yesterday), so I think that the best redirect is to Jaffa Cakes article. Alexcalamaro (talk) 14:09, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget Either LU or Jaffa cake would be okay to redirect but need to add a "Redirects here" and then hatnote to Pim and Pimm's. Add reverse hatnote on Pimm's to Pim's AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:05, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to Jaffa Cakes per nom and AngusWOOF. CycloneYoris talk! 06:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Retarget where?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Jaffa Cakes#Other brands, giving preference to target of correct spelling. Use hatnotes for the misspelling of Pimm's.—Bagumba (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Stand Alone(EP Mogan Wallen)
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- Stand Alone(EP Mogan Wallen) → Morgan Wallen (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Delete per nom because of the spelling error and the lack of a space between the EP title and its disambiguator. It also doesn't seem to have any useful history now that the EP's article has been deemed non-notable and redirected to Wallen's page. Regards, SONIC678 23:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: We do not need to have redirects for every possible misspelling. ―Susmuffin Talk 08:54, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Taco sauce
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- Taco sauce → ]
Redirected for years to the Salsa page, until Salsa taquera ("taco sauce") was removed from the page. Taco sauce could either refer to salsa or hot sauce. Some restaurants like Taco Bell serve hot sauce packets as their taco sauce. Keep the Salsa redirect, or retarget to Hot sauce? This term seems ambiguous.
- I'm inclined to delete. Unlike, say, an enchilada, a taco doesn't necessarily have sauce at all, and there are plenty of sauces besides hot sauce and salsa that can be served with one. There's no mention of tacos at List of sauces, and while there's a single mention of taco sauce at Taco, the other mentions of sauce there are for a citrus/mayonnaise sauce. On the other hand, most Google results for the phrase are for hot sauces—on the other other hand, no mention at Hot sauce either. --BDD (talk) 15:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- I disagree with BDD. One can very clearly go to a supermarket and buy a product named "taco sauce". (At least one can here in New York.) So we need something to satisfy that search, whether it be a redirect to a DAB page or to a specific page about a particular product, or a new page about this specific product. I would prefer to see Taco sauce redirect to Hot sauce rather than just be deleted. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)]
- Comment. There is very clearly something called "Taco sauce" given that my search results for the specific term are filled with very similar recipes (principally tomato puree, water, white vinegar and cumin). One of those recipes claims that this sauce is known as "]
- Comment Salsa (Mexican cuisine) is clearly different from Taco sauce. Taco sauce (as sold in my area of the United States) is a purely liquid condiment whereas salsa is comprised mostly of chunks of tomatoes and other vegetables (and sometimes fruit) with additional spices. These are two completely different products. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)]
- Comment
- Retarget to Taco What one thinks of "taco sauce" probably varies depending on whether you are refering to traditional tacos or hard-shell tacos. It's not always pico de gallo or a red hot sauce in a bottle or packet.—Bagumba (talk) 16:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: There is consensus to keep this redirect, but not for its target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Overly vague, no clear destination. Better off using the search function instead.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:15, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Disambiguate between Salsa (Mexican cuisine) is expanded to include the various things known as "taco sauce" then it can be retargeted there. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:17, 11 August 2021 (UTC)]
- In the absence of a standalone taco sauce page, any interim solution is awkward, but deletion is the worst alternative. I suspect this is akin to steak sauce. Not all steaks need sauce, some people put on what is called steak sauce, while others have a sauce for steak that is different from what is called steak sauce i.e. Steak#Sauces and condiments.—Bagumba (talk) 07:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)]
- In the absence of a standalone
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- Comment. There is very little info I could find online about what can technically be considered "taco sauce". Here are a few possible refs of varying helpfulness: [1][2][3] –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 18:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- FYI ]
- I’m not sure where it should be redirected to but there is ample evidence that taco sauce is an actual product so it should go somewhere.--65.93.194.2 (talk) 23:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Hoping that a third relist will make things clearer...
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- Comment @WP:RELIST,]
relisting should not be a substitute for a "no consensus" closure.
—Bagumba (talk) 06:25, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: And that's precisely why I wrote a short explanation, as also stated at WP:RELIST:
Users relisting a debate for a third (or further) time, or relisting a debate with a substantial number of commenters, should write a short explanation either within the relist template, or in addition to it
. CycloneYoris talk! 06:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: And that's precisely why I wrote a short explanation, as also stated at WP:RELIST:
Deletein favour of search results. "Taco sauce" is not a specific variety of sauce, it's any sauce someone puts on a taco. Salsa, hot sauce, chimichurri, mayonnaise, salad dressing, cranberry sauce, corn relish, guacamole, sweet onion sauce, sour cream or creme fraiche, barbecue sauce, gravy ... a list of all the things one might put on a taco would not be a disambiguation page, it would be an unencyclopedic and never-finishedset index full of editors' preferences and opinions. I'm sure there's a Mexican cuisine Wikia out there that this could be added to. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)]- Scratch that; retarget to taco. The article about the food already does a good job of explaining different things one might put on a taco, including various sauces. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:26, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I see very little in Taco about sauces. There was one mention of "taco sauce" there which was not defined any further. I went ahead a linked that so it will go to Salsa roja (see below). MB 00:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- There are three mentions of sauce, and there are links to Salsa (Mexican cuisine). Ideally there should be a standalone article for taco sauce, and the taco page can also be enhanced. However, taco as a target might just be the best general coverage that we have for now.—Bagumba (talk) 01:51, 5 September 2021 (UTC)]
- A standalone article (or a set index even) for taco sauce would be ideal, if we could agree that taco sauce was a specific thing. By that I mean mint jelly goes on pancakes, or some other kind of fruit jam). Taco sauce is more like pancake syrup than marinara, I guess is my point: it's more of a category of condiments than a well-defined type of sauce. I agree (as I said already) that the best way to handle this is to cover it in the taco article, and have "taco sauce" redirect there. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)]
- The case of taco sauce is probably similar to steak sauce, but tacos are slightly less prominent than steak being an "ethnic food".—Bagumba (talk) 04:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- A standalone article (or a set index even) for taco sauce would be ideal, if we could agree that taco sauce was a specific thing. By that I mean
- There are three mentions of sauce, and there are links to
- Comment I see very little in Taco about sauces. There was one mention of "taco sauce" there which was not defined any further. I went ahead a linked that so it will go to Salsa roja (see below). MB 00:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Salsa roja which now mentions it by name and seemed to be the most appropriate description of the product we already had. MB 00:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- @MB: While salsa roja translates to red sauce, it is not the same as taco sauce. I have removed your change from salsa roja. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 01:43, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia talk:Sai Ketan Rao
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- Wikipedia talk:Sai Ketan Rao → Sai Ketan Rao (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Was at this title for less than an hour due to what looks like a disruptive page move. I don't think this WT-to-article crossnamespace redirect has much value. Hog Farm Talk 06:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete The page Sai Ketan Rao was moved to Wikipedia talk space and then blanked by an editor for no valid reason, and this redirect is left over from when I moved it back to article space. It serves no real purpose and can safely be deleted. PohranicniStraze (talk) 21:31, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Bbbp
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus defaulting to disambiguation in the absence of any support for the prior status quo signed, Rosguill talk 05:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Bbbp → ]
I think this acronym redirect to a video game, created in 2009, has now been superseded or at the very least matched by Joe Biden's
- Disambiguate under the all-caps Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana and a single by Jacki-O. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)]
- Retarget to WP:DABMENTIONed mixtape. To the limited extent that Biden's plan gets turned into an acronym anywhere (outside of the Wikipedian-invented usage at Template:Joe Biden series), it seems it's usually just called BBB rather than BBBP [5]. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)]
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- Delete. Agree with User:61 that Biden's plan is not known by the acronym. Same is the case with the current target. I have attempted a draft per LaundryPizza at the current redirect, which can be used at the new DAB page. I also added Bronx Blue Bedroom Project. Jay (Talk) 19:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: This is a generic acronym. ―Susmuffin Talk 08:56, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- If you're going to refer to WP:R#D2, etc.) 61.239.39.90 (talk) 05:32, 6 September 2021 (UTC)]
- If you're going to refer to
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Latter Day Saint
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Latter Day Saint movement. Hog Farm Talk 04:36, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Latter Day Saint → Mormons (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Latter Day Saints → Latter Day Saint movement (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I think this should be re-targeted to Latter Day Saint movement. The Church in Salt Lake City has discouraged references to it as the "LDS" Church, and there are other organizations which identify as Latter Day Saints. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 00:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Latter Day Saints (the plural) currently redirects to Latter Day Saint movement; a rejected move perhaps should re-target that redirect. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 00:10, 26 August 2021 (UTC)]
- Comment: It would help if Latter Day Saints is also nominated as I believe they should point to the same target, whatever that may be. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:53, 26 August 2021 (UTC)]
- Bundled. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. Having just come off extended discussions and spillovers at (most recently) Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Topic Ban for Johnpacklambert, consider me neutral, except to say that both redirects should point to the same target. Narky Blert (talk) 20:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- An argument made in those discussions (forgive me if I get any technical terms wrong) is that an elder of the LDS Church recently decreed that "Mormon" should not be used in relation to that Church. Narky Blert (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Retarget to talk) 10:44, 4 September 2021 (UTC)]
- Retarget to Latter Day Saint movement and add redirects here for Latter Day Saints, and hatnote for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to Latter Day Saint movement, and target Latter Day Saints to the same page as well. Both redirects would be appropriate as the terms refer to the movement as a whole rather than to purely it's largest branch. Memories of (talk) 20:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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Super Weed
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- The result of the discussion was retarget all to (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 08:52, 9 September 2021 (UTC)]
- Super Weed → Cannabis (drug) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Superweeds → Herbicide#Resistance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Superweed → ]
These variants should really have more consistent targets instead of pointing to four different places. Hog Farm Talk 05:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget all to Herbicide#Resistance, and add a hatnote there to Glyphosate#Emergence of resistant weeds if that's not already covered in the target article. Googling both "superweed" and "super weed" brings up exclusively results for the topic of weeds emerging that are resistant to herbicides, and none about cannabis. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget per Ivanvector's squirrel. talk) 11:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)]
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2015 Oklahoma Sooners women's soccer team
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 10#2015 Oklahoma Sooners women's soccer team