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I saw you were soliciting opinions on the roads fork and was wondering whether you're interested in mine. For context I am the "one person who is trying to destroy our entire side of Wikipedia just on the notability side" mentioned in the TikTok video. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't messed around on Discord in years... Also kind of philosophically opposed to doing interviews about wiki off wiki, I take an Audrey Tang style radical transparency approach to wikipedia and for me in this semi-anonymous form that means conducting wiki business on wiki. The big takeaway for me from that TikTok video is that it seems like we've been talking past each other, I hope interviews and third party analysis can help us all understand what happened here, why it happened, why it was so acrimonious (the one thing we can all apparently agree on is that feelings on both sides have been hurt), and whether there is hope of reconciliation. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The roads topic area is almost comically low stakes, but not all of the topic areas I edit are (Palestinian-Israeli conflict, North Korea, human rights in China, the Taiwan-China conflict, contemporary American politics, American policing, cybersecurity, gender and sexuality, celebrity sexual assault/allegations thereof, etc). Maybe some day I will make an account for such communication but unfortunately I don't feel comfortable doing that today and I've already received death threats due to my wiki editing so not taking any new risks at the moment. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, is there any background you want? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The question I'm most interested in is whether people see this as two issues like the person in the TikTok video (there seems to be the presumption in the newsletter that everybody knows who this is but I don't) does or whether they see it as one issue. In the TikTok video they say that there are two issued here, sourcing and notability... IMO the sourcing discussion is a subset of the notability one, the issue isn't that we aren't allowed to use primary sources and newspapers its that primary sources and passing mentions in newspapers (which is all some roads have) don't count towards notability. The other question would be whether they also feel that the single word "typically" in
WP:GEOROAD was the core of the dispute (note that in the video this generally vs typically conflict becomes ironically extremely clear). As for a message to pass on it would be that I understand that for them this was not an abstract policy discussion, I would be pissed too if I'd invested so many years into something only to have someone else question its value and I understand why all this outside pressure over the years has felt like other editors/the community at large questioning the value of roads articles. Thinking the project should have consistency across its topic areas doesn't mean that I'm not incredibly grateful for the contributions of those in the past, we stand on the shoulders of giants here no matter what topic area we edit (which I would note must not be very comfortable for the giant). Horse Eye's Back (talk) 21:50, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
Hey MJL, forgive me for asking you directly because I do see you've stepped away from the project here, but I'm having a hard time getting a clickable button to work with a URL link and an embedded image and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at what I've scrapped together so far. Also, this is entirely for personal use so I understand if this isn't a priority for you right now. Thanks! MicrobiologyMarcus(petri dish•cultures) 19:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's awesome! I'm impressed you pulled that from a log I was building to kept track of my sporadic attempts. And you got that really quick. Thanks so much for the help, I really appreciate it microbiologyMarcus(petri dish•cultures) 02:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's no big deal! The question was rather simple to answer, and it provided some new insights for me. Mainly, I have no idea how I would finish the merge if asked again. It's edge cases like this which gave me so much anxiety at the time I was trying. I just am not cut out for template work... –
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. LizRead!Talk! 16:44, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's two sodas then. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Barnstar for Mike Johnson (politician) close
The Closer's Barnstar
It is rare to need as much nuance in a closure as was required in the discussion to move Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician) to Mike Johnson (politician). It's even rarer to see that nuance actually present in the closure. You are a credit to this project and its aim for collaborative editing. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Yeah, sorry. I did see you weren't a fan, but I figured you could always suggest a later move to Mike Johnson (speaker) when the flames died down [which would be a lot easier/simpler from Mike Johnson (politician) than Mike Johnson (no parentheses)].
Greetings. With respect to your close on the Mike Johnson move, I understand your arguments, however, I do frankly disagree and was hoping to talk about it. For starters, you noted that "Enough people on both sides of the argument did state their prefered second choice was to move Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician) away from its current title into, at the very least, Mike Johnson (politician). Others suggested alternative disambiguations, but (politician) was easily the most prevalent."
This does not seem justified. By my count, only three people out of the more than 80 who responded voiced support for the title "Mike Johnson (politician)". It's not a vote, but that definitely doesn't strike me as consensus.
Additionally, in my view, you did not accurately represent the central arguments of the "Support" side. For instance, you pointed to one opposer's argument that the supporters based their arguments in WP:CRYSTALBALL. Obviously I'm biased as the nominator, but this does not seem accurate to me. The central argument of supporters was that he is already inherently notable by virtue of assuming this office. I know that that argument does not jibe with John Bell (Tennessee politician), but that article has received comparatively zero attention from editors, so this argument strikes me as WP:OTHERSTUFF.
Let me know your thoughts. I have not contested a close before so I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I do take issue with the result in this instance. Best, Cpotisch (talk) 21:33, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to respond in full to this when I get home. –
@Cpotisch: Sorry, fell asleep and forgot this when I woke up.
With respect to my statements regarding whether Mike Johnson (politician) was a fitting title, I probably could've done a better job clarifying that there wasn't a strong consensus for any specific disambiguator, so I just picked the one most people mentioned as their preference. 6 seperate people explicitly mentioned (politician) as their choice while one person (Gråbergs Gråa Sång) was explicitly opposed to it. Though, upon re-reading things, I may have misinterpreted Steel1943's comment For what it's worth, I also oppose any disambiguator changes to the title, considering all other disambiguators suggested so far violate WP:PRECISE against "Louisiana politician" since the phrase "Louisiana politician" is not ambiguous in this case. That might have changed the decision a bit. I can amend the close to make it clear the move is based off weak consensus for (politician) and a proper disambiguator can be discussed at a later date (if that would ease concerns).
The only reason I didn't go with (Speaker of the House) instead was the fact it had so many variations floating around. (Speaker of the House), (speaker), and (U.S. House Speaker) were all in contention; but it wasn't clear which format was most prefered. Again, I figured it the desire was there, another requested move could be placed.
As for the other concerns laid out by Cpotisch...
So one of the confusing things about Wikipedia is terms have awfully specific meanings here. I don't think you mean to refer to
some stuff exists for a reason
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The reason we refer to primary topics here is because the standards for what we consider primary topics are different than notability. The criteria for that include a topic's long-term significance (not just its current usage). If an argument is being made that a subject is primary with respect to long-term significance by virtue of the subject holding a given office, then a successful counterargument to that would be prior office holders who are not primary topics themselves. –
I appreciate the thorough reply. You definitely make a valid point about my imprecision in referencing certain guidelines and essays. I don't believe I was the one who pointed to WP:Notability, but yeah I completely misremembered WP:OTHERSTUFF. I'll ponder on this for a bit, as I am still somewhat inclined to request a move review (you make valid points, but I also feel like my grasp on the nuances of this process is tenuous enough that I'd want more input). But yours is definitely not an inherently unreasonable conclusion. Cpotisch (talk) 18:41, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERCONTENT may have been more what you were thinking of. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks I think that was it. Cpotisch (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response. I do agree that the discussion was a bit messy ... but as you seem to mention, there might've been a case for some sort of precise disambiguator (a point which goes against my own "vote"), even if it wasn't the one I stated. I'm at a point right now where I probably will not be the one to start the review, but if the review occurs, I will probably participate. (By the way, do not take this as me being ungrateful that you closed the discussion; contentious discussions are difficult to close, and someone had to do it. Kudos to you on that.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You can't
WP:PDAB - partial disambiguation is an unusual phenomenon that should require explicit consensus in favor of its implementation, not one that emerges from nothing. * Pppery *it has begun... 00:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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This is a good point right here. May make me reconsider not opening a
I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt on this, but come on. A total of seven people even acknowledged the existence of the (politician) option. Depending on how you judge their responses, between three and six of those actually supported it. This is out of more than eighty who participated and more than fifty who supported the "Mike Johnson" title. It's not a vote, but something that >90% of participants never even discussed can't seriously be considered the result of consensus. Cpotisch (talk) 04:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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At that arbitration case an editor, who I won't immediately name here but they are not an Involved Party, has in my opinion engaged in battleground behavior that includes bad-faith assumptions and aspersions. I can certainly provide multiple diff, but prior to doing that, could you tell me if there is a formal, within-case mechanism (perhaps in addition to notifying the clerks on their Talk pages) for reporting those concerns? Alternatively, do you suggest that I simply remain silent and let the arbitration committee consider, or not consider, such posts as they see fit?
Thanks for your help. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 15:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(replied on my talk page :) ) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
An editor has asked for a Move review of Mike Johnson (politician). Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. Cpotisch (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks again for replying to my inquiry about this. I still feel that it would benefit from a move review, but thanks for closing it, nonetheless. Cpotisch (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Someone moved Mike Johnson (politician) back to Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician). I tried moving it back, but it said the page "Mike Johnson (politician)" was already in use. Since you were the one that did the move in the first place can you fix it? Thanks. Alexysun (talk) 19:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see. First, I thought a move request was more formal and involved more of the "Oppose" and "Support" responses. Second, I want the article to be moved, but I was just expressing that there was too much pushback against the move for no reason. Alexysun (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
. i left a message on the article's talk page a little while ago but i thought i would mention it here as well since you're the creator of it :] i just am not sure how to fix it myself, lol. thanks!
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Sorry to disturb you, but I wasn't sure if my message would be recieved if I asked on English Wikisource, since you haven't edited that project for a year.
A few years ago (in 2019) you ressurected Wikisource news. I've tried this again, albeit in a far smaller format, but I have a question about the supposedly automatic messages (in theory from MediaWiki Message Delivery). (I don't have any experience in that technical realm). Do they get sent out by a bot at some point, ideally soon-ish? Do I have to do something to prompt it to send a message to the talk pages? Or does it not work, and I should thus hand out messages myself?
~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
That's two sodas then. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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