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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 11, 2023.

Wo Long: Final Dynasty

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The result of the discussion was keep. Salvio giuliano 09:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. "Final" is a typo or accidental misprint of "Fallen". Not mentioned in the article. Not commonly occurring typo per Google search results. Mika1h (talk) 11:17, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep plausible misspelling per Czar's rationale --Lenticel (talk) 06:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I get 5000+ Google search results. Pinging nom Mika1h for his Google search results. Jay 💬 05:22, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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2027FIBA Basketball World Cup

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 05:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of unverifiable information. This doesn't seem a plausible redirect, either. Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 18:02, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Spirule

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The result of the discussion was keep.
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

There is no target page where the topic is defined, except for an external link to an obscure programming language developed by a company of this name. In any case, very weakly related to the present target. D.Lazard (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The original claim is false: the topic was defined at the target of the redirect and the relationship could not be more direct. Only the sourcing was poor, which is now fixed, with citations to numerous textbooks explaining how to use the device. That's a 1948 spiral slide ruler invented by the very creator of the whole
fgnievinski (talk) 00:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Foster and Partners

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. Closed due to being in the wrong venue, already at AFD, see
(non-admin closure) Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 02:14, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Wikipedia's entry for Norman Foster, Baron Foster of Thames Bank already covers this topic in more depth than this promotional, PR-whitewashed company page. As far as I can see there isn't enough scope to turn this subject into a decent page distinct from the BLP about its founder and chief. They are essentially, two sides of the same coin. I tried to merge the pages, but it was too hard. The Bicycle of Dreams (talk) 16:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. If the article's data is correct, the firm has 1800 employees all over the world including 140 partners. It's also the largest architecture firm in the UK. The firm has an established notability that goes beyond its association with Norman Foster. Pichpich (talk) 18:23, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy close Wrong venue. Articles should be submitted at
    Talkback) 21:06, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Nintendo DS & DSi Browser

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 21:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I have since refactored the page to be about the DS browser only, as it originally was, since that is the only individually notable one. Information about the DSi browser is on a different page, making this redirect out of scope and unnecessary. The original move to this title was ill-conceived by a now-banned user. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - the article had this title for nearly 13 years. I'm not sure I agree with the nominator that the "rationale for original move was faulty and against Wikipedia policy", and I don't see any issue discussing both in one article, but if the content is to stay removed then unless a better target exists this should be delete. A7V2 (talk) 00:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    To better explain, the article was moved because "the browser works on DS and DSi". It was not actually meant to be about the DSi browser proper. This is not normal policy, because we go by the
    WP:COMMONNAME, which is "Nintendo DS Browser" for this particular piece of software. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

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Warrington Gillette

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Redirect that was deleted in 2018 per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 20, but then got recreated in 2020 to the exact same target. It remains inappropriate, however, for an actor's name to redirect to just one specific film he was in -- Friday the 13th Part 2 was not the only acting credit Warrington Gillette ever had, so it's not appropriate to privilege that one specific film over any of the others. Bearcat (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Per reasons given.★Trekker (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - While he does have some other acting credits (6), Friday the 13th's Jason is unequivocally his most famous role. Given that he likely doesn't qualify for a page of his own, having his name redirect to his most well known gig seems the best compromise next to not having a link for him at all as if he doesn't exist.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 17:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete to allow for uninhibited search and per the nom. A7V2 (talk) 00:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. It seems bizarre to redirect a non-notable actor to just one of his roles. If he's gotten a "most famous role" that is "his most well known gig", either that's still not particularly significant, and we can delete this for the provided reason, or he really qualifies for WP:BIO, and this ought to be deleted to encourage creation of an article. Nyttend (talk) 05:53, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Una (prefix)

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Tuyet

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Aerosmith/ZZ Top Tour

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The result of the discussion was a procedural close. Made into an article by
(non-admin closure) Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 02:18, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

This is an

WP:REDYES on BLAR-ing the joint co-headlining tour. I would suggest restore the article and send to AFD as QuietHere states that, "co-headlining concert tours won't survive long at AFD". There are three/four BLAR-turned into restored pre-BLARs to ultimately deleted ones that is resulted in an outcome. 2600:1700:9BF3:220:34F4:792E:B1E7:2AB0 (talk) 05:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Create an article at this title. Based on the content in the Aerosmith article, this was a crazy tour, with numerous injuries. A separate article could contain additional information of interest, such as the tour dates (and which of those were postponed/cancelled due to the continuing tour mishaps). I would hazzard that these will be easy to source, as cancelled tour dates from a major band make the news in the cancelled cities. BD2412 T 15:15, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have gone ahead and restored the content previously boldly redirected without discussion, and added the references. BD2412 T 15:22, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Unipersonalist

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Not mention in target article and a Google search tells me that a unipersonalist believes in a unipersonal deity (Merriam-Webster), and is not synonymous with Unitarianism. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:45, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not personally familiar with unipersonalism but that definition makes it sound like a synonym for nontrinitarianism, a belief which Unitarians have but they aren't necessarily the only ones who do. Retarget to nontrinitarianism. QuietHere (talk) 10:31, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, do you intend to make a separate article for
Unipersonalism? Because in the absence of such an article, the redirect is pointing to the best place. Certainly the difference between the two concepts is minor, hinging on whether you think God is a "person". jej1997 (talk) 04:00, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Disambiguate. This could refer to multiple positions within the context of Christianity. The standard trinitarian formula is "One God, three persons." A unipersonalist believes that God is one person. This could mean rejecting that Jesus was divine, which is Unitarianism (historically
    Modalism). In addition to all of these Christian uses, the term would apply to "true" monotheism (i.e., Judaism and Islam). —Compassionate727 (T·C) 05:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Unipersonalism. Also, a disambiguation draft may help in the discussion.
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  • Retarget to nontrinitarianism. "Unipersonalism" is equivalent to the general concept of "Unitarianism", but because that term tends to be much more specific than the general concept (you won't find Jehovah's Witnesses describing themselves as "Unitarian", for example), we need to redirect to a different term that refers only to the general concept. (Think of this like politics: labour issues in politics aren't necessarily tied to the politics of a Labour Party, some conservatives disagree with a Conservative Party, socialists won't necessarily join a Socialist Party, etc., and in the same way, not all unitarians are associated with Unitarianism.) Nyttend (talk) 06:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to nontrinitarianism, per Nyttend and also taking into account that said page already does a rather effective job of enumerating and discussing the disambiguation of use-cases identified by Compassionate727. signed, Rosguill talk 17:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Atari VCS (2018 console)

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The result of the discussion was keep both. The console was croudfunded and announced in 2018, and had a scheduled release date in 2019.
talk) 21:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Not released in 2018 nor 2019. So, I suggest deletion. 176.88.80.31 (talk) 16:30, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: The original release date for the console was 2019. Many people might not know that this console was released in 2021 since this console is pretty uncommon and unpopular. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 20:22, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Kristen Cui

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. After two relists and extensive discussion, editors remain divided between keep and delete. Keep !votes based on {{R from person}} and delete !votes arguing that the redirect is not helpful to readers are both roughly equally valid, so I don't see a policy basis for discounting either side's perspective. signed, Rosguill talk 17:49, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest the redirect be deleted because it is being used only on the page it redirects back without giving any information about the person it refers to. It doesn't make any sense. Plus once we have more information about the said child actor, it can be used to create a named page later on. But right now, the redirect can be done away with. Navjot Singh (talk) 01:32, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: I corrected the syntax of the nomination which did involve removing some text which isn't exactly duplicated above, but is very similar. Skynxnex (talk) 03:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tupac (rapper)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Salvio giuliano 09:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have Tupac redirecting to Tupac Shakur, suggest deleting. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 08:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ron Allen (actor)

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The result of the discussion was keep.
talk) 22:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The paranthecal (actor) does not help disambugate, I suggest retargeting to Ronald Allen. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 08:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:NoCommons

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Template:Do not move to Commons. Salvio giuliano 09:05, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like this title might be better pointed to the {{

Do not move to commons}} template than the {{Keep local}} template. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:45, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Retarget to title suggested by nom. Redirecting this title to keep local makes no sense, as it's already been moved to Commons, why name this redirect "NoCommons" in that case? Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 03:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this really ought to be bundled with {{
    Nocommons}}, which also redirects to {{Keep local}}. I created this redirect as a logical capitalisation variant of Nocommons, and I can't imagine why we'd want them to redirect to different places. Nyttend (talk) 08:37, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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2027 FIBA Basketball World Cup

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 09:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CRYSTAL. Just like we don't have a redirect from the 2044 Summer Olympics to Olympic Games, we shouldn't have this. Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 02:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Henry Colley (died 1700)

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator.
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 03:09, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Redirect title contains incorrect information about the subject (actual death year was 1719) DeemDeem52 (talk) 00:58, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep From April 2010‎ to June 2022, the article was called "Henry Colley (died 1700)" and it was moved at the start of July in 2022. Per the history, Pwaldron moved page Henry Colley (died 1700) to Henry Colley (died 1719): Year of death is wrong; about to add sources to confirm. So "(died 1700)" is incorrect. However, even with the move there has been a decent amount of use. Since the creation of the redirect, it has been used over 3,000 times and excluding September 2022, it has been used over 2,100 times. (For some unclear reason, there was a significant increase in usage of the redirect starting on September 8th and continuing though almost the rest of the month.) Given the usage, I would say that it should be kept with a redirect template added to it to make it clearer that it is in use due to the mistake. (Template:R from incorrect disambiguation?) --Super Goku V (talk) 01:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Super Goku V. When an article's had a certain title for a very long time (in this case, the majority of Wikipedia's history), the old title pretty much always should be retained. This isn't a case of retaining a created-by-pagemove-vandalism redirect, which is unlikely ever to be used. To the contrary, it presumably has hundreds or thousands of incoming links from Wikipedia alone — for example, in the history of Richard Wesley, 1st Baron Mornington (his son), [1] and [2] both link to this redirect, as (presumably) do all 129 page revisions between them. {{R from incorrect disambiguation}} is indeed the correct way to handle this. Nyttend (talk) 08:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. J947 † edits 10:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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