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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 4, 2023.

J L Dixons

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 12#J L Dixons

Crow eye

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:28, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete can find good hits in the wiki and through Google Search. I got hits for crow`s eye though. --Lenticel (talk) 01:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It's just a literal translation of plant's vernacular name in Russian (see
    WP:FORRED USS Cola!rado🇺🇸 (C⭐T) 05:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Mario Cart; Double Dash

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:28, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Completely implausible as a pair of unrelated errors. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:45, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pmatc/sandbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

redirect from a user's sandbox to main automatically created during a move. doesn't qualify for

talk 22:33, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Israeli ultranationalism

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 12#Israeli ultranationalism

Magnolia, Arkansas micropolitan area

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 08:40, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what the use of this page is. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Lai ho'a

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The result of the discussion was keep.
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 09:09, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Not mentioned in target, doesn't seem to be a translation of the term, so not seeing how it relates. Onel5969 TT me 15:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The lai ho'a come from indigenous folklore and are cited in Gregory Forth's studies on H. floresiensis as potential evidence for the extinct species existing into modern times. Based on the edit history on the page, Forth's work appears controversial. I have added back a mention into the article in an attempt to briefly present both sides of scientific discourse on the matter. TNstingray (talk) 21:01, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per TNstingray. Looks like a fringe theory, but notable enough to be worth mentioning in the target article and thus maintaining this redirect. – Joe (talk) 11:18, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Escargot (A snail-like transcription factor)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 08:44, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recently-created implausible parenthetical descriptor; I moved the page to Escargot (transcription factor). CapitalSasha ~ talk 14:55, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@
Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 17:37, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Oh OK thanks, I wasn't sure about that since the page under that title had been edited by others before I moved it. CapitalSasha ~ talk 17:39, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it seems this is not eligible for G7 deletion:
WP:G7 says

For redirects created as a result of a page move, the mover must also have been the only substantive contributor to the pages before the move.

CapitalSasha ~ talk 17:41, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
No, it still applies because no other editor has touched the redirect. It doesn't matter if the target page has been edited by many editors.
Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 17:45, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Ok, never mind. After re-reading the wording of
Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
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"Adhara Pérez Sánchez"

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:34, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Title conventions don't include quotation marks. Also not a helpful search term, as inputting this exact title in the search bar will point you to the article anyways. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Combat actions of the 8th and 4th Route Communist Armies

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 09:04, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever the subject of these redirects are meant to refer seems to be missing from the target article. There seems to be three mentions of a "8th", but not necessarily a route, and the use of 4th seems to be missing from the target article completely. (

WP:BLARed or merged, cannot tell which.) Steel1943 (talk) 23:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 02:38, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:43, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting one more time to see if this will be some comments.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 12:20, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:10, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Russian bond

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 13#Russian bond

Doctor Dre

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:40, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Useless redirect. 2 people are stage named Doctor Dre. Or maybe retarget to Doctor Dre who's real name is Andre Brown. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Procedural relist: The RFD tag on the redirect was removed (but not returned) the same day this redirect was nominated, leaving this redirect untagged for about 5 days. Relisting to allow readers who may search this redirect to be aware of this nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 09:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:47, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: I understand if you want to debate the target, but calling this redirect useless is just silly. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:30, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Chada Norphanphoun

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a cross-wiki redirect to WikiSpecies for a biographical entry on a living individual.

WP:REDYES notes that red links should be created whenever a non-existent article with more information would help a reader understand the content of the article in which the red link will appear. As such, I believe that we should delete this cross-wiki redirect and create a redlink in order to encourage the creation of a Wikipedia article on this individual. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:58, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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@Red-tailed hawk: Most of the people listed in the titles of Category:Redirects to Wikispecies don't seem notable either (or are at most borderline cases). Do you want to delete all those redirects too? Duckmather (talk) 18:55, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Much in the same way that we would create cross-wiki redirects to non-notable creator pages on Commons unless they're commonly wikilinked or repeatedly recreated as redirects, I believe that Wikipedia should probably not be creating cross-wiki redirects to non-notable individuals on WikiSpecies. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:57, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, I recommend that you send every single Wikispecies redirect here as well, either in a giant batch or one at a time. (If you do make the batch nomination, you should procedurally close this one as redundant. The batch nomination might be a
WP:REDYES, as you write, though I do have a distaste for how RfD-ers cite either policy. However, nominating them one at a time might exhaust RfD's ability to discuss anything else.) Based on the speed at which RfD works, we could probably get rid of every Wikispecies redirect in the next week or two if we really wanted – there are only 162 of them, after all. Duckmather (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Delete per nom. --BDD (talk) 15:43, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. The 162 other wikispecies redirects could be nominated in phases. Jay 💬 07:55, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Michael King III

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The result of the discussion was no consensus.
(non-admin closure) J947 † edits 02:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Speedy Delete - Martin Luther King Jr. is his father's legal name. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 11:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:22, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for the name in DDG, almost every single result other than Wikipedia is related to other people, usually in the 18th century. There's only one result related to MLK Jr., and it only got used by accident: using his father's birth name in a list numbered with Roman numerals. This isn't a plausible search term for Martin Luther King III. Randi Moth TalkContribs 08:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I now disagree with myself per Steel. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 16:48, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: @ErceÇamurOfficial: what is your stance now with this nomination?
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It should get deleted. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can't stand with myself anymore. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Early 2023 execution of a Ukrainian prisoner of war

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 19#Early 2023 execution of a Ukrainian prisoner of war

White Kingdom

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 7#White Kingdom

Chinese nation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 12#Chinese nation

Fputchar

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The result of the discussion was delete. There is a rough consensus for deletion contingent on the continued absence of this phrase from the target. signed, Rosguill talk 16:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Unless there is a precise spelling of this redirect on the target article, readers who may be searching this term will not find what they are looking for. Apparently, "fputchar()" is a function that some custom libraries for C may have, but it doesn't seem to be part of any of C's standard libraries, so it would not make sense for it to be mentioned in the target anyways. Steel1943 (talk) 05:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 13:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Not in the Standard C library from stdio.h or mentioned at the article. In the standard c library there is fputc and putchar but not fputchar. TartarTorte 13:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 02:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is a very old redirect (from 2006), and standard or not, for anyone actually typing "fputchar" into Wikipedia, this is probably the correct page (compare:
WP:DONTFIXIT. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 02:52, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Delete: Per TartarTore and based on it not being mentioned at the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, whether it's standard or not is an entirely different matter. Wikipedia isn't primarily in the business of teaching people how to write code to programming language standards. And to reiterate: whether a given title appears (verbatim or not) in the target article is not grounds for deleting the redirect. The proliferation of RFD regulars who have convinced themselves in the last year or so that it is is cause for concern. In this particular instance, it's especially bad, because (again) it actually *did* used to be in the article, until someone removed it. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 17:28, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per C. A. Russell, "fxxxx" is a common way to name file functions ("f" file) in C, so this would be an expected search term. Tag as {{
    R without mention}} / {{R from misspelling|putchar}} -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 03:51, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per Hey man, or add it back to the article. Without it, the redirect is not useful to the reader. Jay 💬 14:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Vasprintf

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 16:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article. Since functions in C have to be used/spelled correctly, if this redirect is intended to be a misspelling, it is unhelpful since functions have to be spelled correctly to be used. Also, searches in third party search engines for this phrase turned up primarily results for companies such as "VistaPrint". Steel1943 (talk) 04:46, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 13:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: It seems to be generally included in stdio.h (see here for example), but it's from the GNU Standard Lib, so I'm not sure if it should be added or not. If kept should also be added to the article. TartarTorte 13:58, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, you used http://linux.die.net to find information about the function. Usually, I've referred to https://cplusplus.com/, which from my understanding doesn't include that GNU standard library (to my knowledge) and tends to only include functions that are in standard C header library ... which is probably why I didn't find this function on https://cplusplus.com/. Either way, I think what you state is the case: I think the target includes only standard C header library functions. Steel1943 (talk) 17:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the
WP:DONTFIXIT grounds. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 03:21, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • It is mentioned in
    vsprintf. Delete unless we have useful information on it on enwiki. Jay 💬 14:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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