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January 2008

February 2008

March 2008

  • Bret Harte Middle School (San Jose, California) (Start / Low) has not that much info, but has some basic information LegoKontribsTalk
    M 04:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Central High School (Burlington, Illinois) (Stub / Low) A short article with basic information and no references. Loopla (talk) 05:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Central High School (Camp Point, Illinois) (Stub / Low) A very short article with basic info. Loopla (talk) 05:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
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  • Magnet school (Start / High) Not sure why we hadn't already assessed this... Very important article to the project. Has minimal reference material. Needs authoritative sources and statistics. I would push for some project effor on this and all such "Types of Schools" articles. Adam McCormick (talk) 04:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Menntaskólinn í Reykjavík (Start/Top) A very important old school in Iceland founded in 1056 which has educated most of the country's Prime Ministers and is therefore of top importance. The article needs more content, especially about the history of the school, and especially references to advance to a B. Dahliarose (talk) 09:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  • La Salle College (B / Mid) Requested. A well-written article with lots of factual information and very neutral tone. Alumni list, history, and content make this one of the better Hong Kong school articles I've seen. Could still use more references and a stronger lead but otherwise very close to GA. Adam McCormick (talk) 03:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Stonyhurst College (B / Mid) Requested. Looks solidly-written and well referenced with plenty of references and pictures. All it needs to be GA is a review request. (Mid may be low, but I need a UK person to confirm) Adam McCormick (talk) 00:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I have upgraded this school to high importance. It's a leading Catholic school with a long history in an important historical building. There aren't many schools which can boast that Oliver Cromwell slept there, and even fewer with saints amongst their alumni, let alone seven Victoria crosses. The school already has three Wikipedia articles in other languages which testifies to its international recognition. Dahliarose (talk)

April 2008

  • St. Bees School (Start/high) Requested re-assessment. This article is developing well. It should really be a B, but is lacking in references. Trivia needs trimming. I'm upgrading the article to high importance based on its history and the alumni, which include Fletcher Christian and three Victoria Crosses. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 22:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Winchester College (B/Top) Upgraded to top importance. It already has Wikipedia articles in seven different languages. It is one of the oldest and best known English schools and a large number of books have been written about it testifying to its importance. It also has a very long list of important alumni and a long list of fictional alumni too! Dahliarose (talk) 22:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Morton Memorial Schools (Stub/low) - Needs a lot more content and references and maybe a picture to reach Start class. Bsrboy (talk
    ) 23:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • St Paul's School (London) (B/high) I'm surprised we haven't already assessed this school. It is one of the original nine 'public' schools in England and one of the highest achieving schools in the country easily justifying high importance. The article is well written but has a lot of subjective claims and a lot of work is now needed on referencing. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 11:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Haileybury and Imperial Service College This article has been expanded since it was last assessed and is now a B. The alumni would be best split into a separate article. More content should be added particularly about the curriculum and extra-curricular activities. Most importantly there is a lot of work needed on the referencing. I am upgrading the article to high importance based on the alumni (which include Rudyard Kipling, three George Crosses and seventeen Victoria Crosses – only Eton and Harrow have more VCs) and the history. Dahliarose (talk) 11:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

May 2008

There were no article assessment requests completed in May 2008.

June 2008

  • Liberty County High School (Bristol, Florida) (Stub/Low) Requested. Not much here and no external references. Adam McCormick (talk
    ) 19:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
  • St Helena Secondary College (Start/Low) Requested. Only one reference and that is internal. Needs verifiable information. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Arlington Senior High School (GA/Low) Requested. Very solidly written and referenced, might benefit from more pictures. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Palo Verde High School (Start/Low) Requested. A good start but still very short. Only one external reference. Needs significant expansion and cleanup. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Somerville House (B/Mid) Requested. Overall, a well put-together article. Curriculum section needs work. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Shenendehowa Central School District (Start/Low) Two legitimate references and needs more content. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Los Alamos High School (B/Mid) Plenty of references and pictures. Lists should really be cut down or made into tables. Needs some overall work on readability and organization. Adam McCormick (talk) 19:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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  • Abington Heights School District (Start/Low) — Added the infobox and a bit more data concerning test results and demographics. I could use a general copy edit and cleanup, but could be a solid B-class article if someone were to get around to adding more concise information. One page has some nice tidbits, but nothing too major. — Calebrw (talk) 20:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Edison High School (Minnesota)(Start/Low) — Just barely a start-class article. Needs a lot of work. Just the bare bones facts. — Calebrw (talk) 20:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Roosevelt High School (Minneapolis)(Stub/Low)— Not much here. No references, save for a link to the school's page. No infobox. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 20:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Washburn High School (Start/Low) — My alma mater. Needs a lot of work in the citation and references department. I added the infobox 3 days ago and assessed it then. — Calebrw (talk) 20:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Patrick Henry High School (Minneapolis, Minnesota) (Stub/Low) — Not enough info or structure to get to start. One reference though. No infobox. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 21:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Southwest High School (Minneapolis, Minnesota) (Start/Low)The article needs a lot of work. Plagiarism, only 2 refs and I'm not sure on the NPOV. Needs some big work. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 21:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Minneapolis South High School
    (Start/Low) — Only proper references really stand in the way of this article becoming B class or better. It also could be split into multiple articles: with one focusing on the history of the school as that has become quite long.
  • New York City Department of Education (Start/Mid) — Needs a lot more references, considering the number of people involved with the district. I'd say it's mid (or even higher) importance seeing as how big it is: Budget US$ 17 billion, Teachers 80,000, Students 1,042,277 and Number of Schools 1,450. — Calebrw (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:SCH#Articles in need of emergency, short term attention article has no current assessment. – Zedla (talk) 20:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC) Rated as (start/low). It's definatley out of immediate danger, but keep up the good work. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 21:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Eagle Rock High School (Los Angeles, California) Article has been around since 2006 and never assessed. Timmccloud (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC) (Start/low) needs more references and could be a b-class article. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 22:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • York Catholic High School (York, PA) Article recently de-stubbed, please assess Nsb5004 (talk) 04:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC) (Start/low) is right on the money. Needs more non-primary references. — Calebrw (talk) 22:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • West Clermont Local School District, Article has never been assessed Bmstephany (talk) 16:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)(Start/low) A good opening three paragraphs, but then turns into lists. Needs more non-primary sources. — Calebrw (talk) 22:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • talk to me 19:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Agree with (Start/low). Not changed. Needs more references and wikilinks as noted. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 22:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Khalil Gibran International Academy (B-class/mid) Well researched and relevant to the the issues facing Muslims (in education and daily life) in America and other countries. — Calebrw (talk) 22:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Ben Gamla Charter School (Start/Mid) — Needs infobox. Good coverage of the controversy surrounding the teaching of both Hebrew and religion. Needs better citation style. — Calebrw (talk) 22:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Blind Brook High School: Reworked/reformatted the article over the past year. I have also updated and added new citations. If someone can take a look at it, tips/ideas/suggestions/etc are always welcomed. Thanks Benje309 (talk) 19:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC) (B/low) Nice additions. Giving this a B. To get to GA or higher, please use the proper citation templates. Also, when you use one source more than one do a <ref="citationname"> where "citationname" is unique to the page. Also, find a few more non-primary sources if you can. "Blind Brook's Beginnings" and "30 Years of Blind Brook: 1973-2003" need more in-text citations in my opinion. — Calebrw (talk) 04:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • The Hotchkiss School, I have made significant changes to the article and updated the alumni list (please reconsider importance ranking Hotchkiss has more billionaires than any other school in the world for business oriented people that is important - top importance?). Please re-read alumni list.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.6.214.82 (talk) (B/High)Please add more in-text citations to this article. This will help with the NPOV concerns. In light of these two issues, I am bumping this article down to High until proved otherwise. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 01:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Los Altos High School - Somebody came and gave this article a B-rating without leaving a comment, note, or real assessment. I would also like an importance rating, (though I think I know what it is...) --haha169 (talk) 04:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC) (B-class/low) Really well-rounded article. Deserves a b-class rating. It doesn't apply to more than just the local area, so it gets a low on the importance scale. I marked to sections that need to be updated to at least 2007, if not 2008. You have the makings of a GA article in my opinion. The first paragraph of the history needs some in-text citations as does the part about Wynne Satterwhite and George Perez in the intro. Also, each Notable Alumni should be cited to assist with a GA-status request. I hope this helps you with this article. — Calebrw (talk) 03:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Sunshine Coast Grammar School- Changes have been made since it was last assessed; requesting reassessment --RockerballAustralia (talk) 05:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC) (Start/low) The structure looks good, but almost everything can be expanded upon. The one sentence sections really need that. "Schools of Excellence," "OP Results" (what is OP, is there a link to it on wikipedia?), "Languages," "Sister Schools" and "Music" all need to be expanded. What are the sister schools: the offical web site should list such schools. Hope this helps — Calebrw (talk) 03:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy (TIZA)
    • Similar schools that are being accused of blurring the line between church and state. I'm guessing Mid importance at least. I'm planning to nominate TIZA for a DYK soon. ~ Eóin (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC
Clearly a B-class article of Mid-importance as it adds to the issues facing Muslims in America. (See Khalil Gibran International Academy above for more on the same issue) — Calebrw (talk) 22:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Talk Contributions 07:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC) (B-Class/Low) Great structure with just enough references to be a B-class in my book. Low importance as I see nothing that applies to more than this school. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 23:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Westminster Christian Academy (Missouri) -- please assess and comment on page and what can be improved. No Change. Still B-class. The in-text citations need to be in the proper format. See {{cite web}} at [[Template:Cite web]]. That's what I see off-hand. Also, please remove the ref tag from the headmasters section. Looks bad. — Calebrw (talk) 23:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Abelardo Saavedra (Start/low) Mr. Saavedra's article was updated with a bit betting writing and an addition to his time in Corpus Christi. I think there is more out there, especially for the head of such a major school district, but we will see what the future brings. — Calebrw (talk) 19:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Mars Hill Bible School (Start/low) Without getting into the NPOV aspects discussed above, I will address the rest of the article. First off, the citation style is solid, and the number of in-text citations is about right. You could add a few more as appropriate. The one that brings this article down, and must be corrected is the overuse of lists. "Academics," "Athletics," "Administration" and "Trivia" are just lists and should be in prose. Fixing this will go a long way to making this article better. — Calebrw (talk) 19:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Stanton College Preparatory School (Start/low) This had the makings of a good article (not to be confused with be assessed as such at this time). The introduction is great with a good deal of sources. The history section is well-written, but not sourced well. Please add in-citations to this section. The Fight Song and Alma Mater sections are not sourced at the very least and not all that encyclopedic at the most. The alumni section is not sources and frankly, the TV show contestants aren't really all that significant to the school, unless they are honored on a regular basis by members of the community. Also, please use proper citation form for your references. (WP:CIT) — Calebrw (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Humboldt Senior High School (Start/mid) The article is not a stub, as it was previously assessed. Great use of sources, nearly all are third-party. The article is well written, but not quite complete enough to earn B-class status. I rate this article as Mid on the importance scale because of the fact that it deals with the Native American mascot issue, though maybe more could be said on that if there are sources to do so. — Calebrw (talk) 20:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Shawnigan Lake School Originally was just going to clean up the references and assess as B-class, but upon review of the article's section source: http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/text2html/finding/government/.ms_finding//MS-1485.txt, I found that the entire history section of this article is a near word-for-word copy of that that document. This is clear plagiarism and needs to be rectified soon. I will be removing the section for now. My assessment of the article is (Start/low).
    • I have done some work on the citations. — Calebrw (talk) 22:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Windham High School (Windham, Ohio) I have assessed this article as (Start/low). Good work on the "Tomahawk Conference" so far, but it still needs some more sources. If you want to get this to attain B-class status you are going to have to do a lot of work on the rest of the article. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 22:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Jasper Place Composite High School (Start/low) Clearly more than a stub. Work on the citations and fill out the sections. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 22:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • North High School (North St. Paul, Minnesota) (Stub/low) Fix the lists. Expand all sections. More citations. No all-caps. — Calebrw (talk) 22:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Perpich Center for Arts Education (Start/low) No citations. Small sections. Needs a lot of work. — Calebrw (talk) 23:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Rochester Lourdes High School (Start/low) Needs many more citations for B-class. Needs copy editing. On the right track. — Calebrw (talk) 23:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Roseville High School (Start/low) Needs a lot of work. Expand every section. References are needed. — Calebrw (talk) 23:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Rosemount High School (Start/low) Relies on lists. Marching band section needs addition, especially given recent success. Citations needed. Lots of work needs to be done to get to B-class. — Calebrw (talk) 23:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Bloomington Jefferson High School (Start/low) Needs some work, especially to bring it up to date. Citations need to added and those that exist need to be put in the proper format. Alumni need citations, though all look source-able and famous. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 23:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Burnsville High School (Start/low) Needs additional citations and to be expanded to include the normal parts of a school article. — Calebrw (talk) 23:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Chaska High School (comment)(Start/low) Needs more citations and need to updated to include all sections as needed by a good schools article. — Calebrw (talk) 00:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Eastview High School (Start/low) Lot's of lists. No references. — Calebrw (talk) 14:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Cleaned it up a little. Still needs proper references.
  • Eden Prairie High School (Start/low) Good beginning, but needs more sources and prose (changing the lists into text) as well as expansion of the curriculum section. — Calebrw (talk) 15:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Severn Vale School (Start/low) More than a stub. 2 references. More needed. As noted, copy editing and an expert on the school are needed. — Calebrw (talk) 20:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Garrison Cadet College Kohat (Start/low) A bit confusing. Needs an infobox. No sources that I could see. — Calebrw (talk) 23:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Lebanon High School (Virginia) (Start/low) My reasoning is as follows: Quick and clean. 2 references. Consise list of extra curricular activities. — Calebrw (talk) 23:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Lincoln Prairie School (Start/low) Sources needed. Interesting curriculum. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 23:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Lycee Sisowath (Start/low) There could be some interesting history here, but for now the curriculum section needs expanding and the history needs sources. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 23:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Lorien Novalis School Delete. I have submitted this article for deletion after finding that the entire article is plagiarized from the About page of the school's website. Unless someone is willing to a complete rewrite of this article, I see no reason to keep it. — Calebrw (talk) 23:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • T. C. Williams High School (Start/mid) Giving mid based on being a bit more famous across the country due to Remember the Titans and long list alumni. Needs a lot of references and a copy edit. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 03:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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  • Ninestiles Technology College (Start/low) A good start, but citations are needed. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 19:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Glen A. Wilson High School (Start/low) Needs more references. Notable alumni, but not sourced. A good start, but expansion is needed. — Calebrw (talk)
  • The Academy for Mathematics, Science, and Engineering (Start/low) Needs more citations as there are some unverified claims here. The article also needs to be updated to a more current school year, preferably 2007-2008. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 19:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • North Branch Area High School (Stub/low) Just a bit here. Needs expansion. — Calebrw (talk) 20:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Lane Technical College Prep High School (High) Great references. Good Structure. Notable alumni. — Calebrw (talk
    ) 21:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
    • NOTE: This article was already rated at GA quality before I reviewed it.
  • Pūnana Leo (High) Great perspective on Hawaiian culture and education. Interesting method of sourcing. It seems so weird seeing that type of citation on WP. Needs infobox though. — Calebrw (talk) 21:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)}
    • NOTE: This article was already rated at GA quality before I reviewed it.
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  • Raffles Junior College (Start / Mid) - Raffles Junior College was consistently ranked among Singapore's top few junior colleges, until the ranking of junior colleges was discontinued in 2004. On average, 99% of RJC graduates attend university, many on scholarships. In recognition of its sterling academic accolades, it was termed by Wall Street Journal as the "Gateway to the Ivy League". In addition, RJC was mentioned in The Straits Times to be "known as the most successful high school in the world". In short, well-known enough to be higher than low, but not clearly "famous" to be rated as high-importance. Article has good prose quality but little actual in-depth information - start-class given. Overmage (talk) 12:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

July 2008

Note: I will be helping to assess a few article here and there, but I probably won't write the summaries here unless I rate the articles at B-class or Mid-importance and higher. --Jh12 (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

  • Sammamish High School (B / Mid) I am rating this article as a B because it is pretty well organized and referenced. It will need further expansion, including a history section. I have told them to consider reviewing other similarly rated schools for ideas, and putting in for a peer review as the article develops. I am assigning a mid-importance due to its consistent Newsweek ranking. --Jh12 (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Thomasschule zu Leipzig (Stub/Top) With its status as one of the oldest grammar schools in Europe and the impressive collection of alumni and teachers (Bach and Wagner) I agree that this school merits a top importance rating. The article needs a lot of expansion and many more references. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 13:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Rossall School (B/High) Following a re-assessment request on my talk page I have now upgraded this school to high importance because of its pioneering status in a number of fields. It is the first school in the UK to have a combined cadet force, one of the first to offer the International Baccalaureate, and has the unusual privilege of being the home of a science and astronomy centre. There is also a unique game of hockey named after the school. This is an excellent page which is close to being a good article. There are two sections consisting mainly of lists (the campus section and school terms) which would be best converted to prose. These sections are also lacking in references. The school terms section could probably be trimmed as most of it is of a somewhat trivial nature and is really only of interest to people at the school. Dahliarose (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Westtown School (Start/Mid) This article needs lacks any references. In particular, the claim that it is the "second oldest continuously operating co-educational boarding school in the United States" needs to be sourced. Due to the alumni listed and the age of the school, I am currently placing it at Mid importance. Without citations, however, it is impossible to verify the content in the article. --Jh12 (talk) 14:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Taiwan (ROC). It's typically paired with the top boy's high school "Taipei Municipal Jianguo High School". Feel free to reduce it to high; an article describing last years' entrance examination cutoffs for the two schools is here: [1] --Jh12 (talk
    ) 20:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  • National Tainan First Senior High School (Stub/High) I am also placing National Tainan First Senior High School as High importance. It's also a pretty well known school; the list of alumni on its Chinese Wikipedia page is extensive, but just from a western perspective it has prominent alumni in the form of the last Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian and Ang Lee. --Jh12 (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Deerfield High School (Illinois) (B/Mid) Needs many more refs, but still has quite a few as of now. Good pictures. Calebrw (talk) 21:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  • St Michael's Grammar School (B/Low) This article has decent size and organization, but needs more referencing. --Jh12 (talk) 13:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Article_guidelines#What_not_to_include The Lockdowns don't seem to be that encyclopedic. My middle school had a couple of bomb threats one year, but I'm not going to go add them to the page. Also, Courses should be changed to Curriculum and "Clubs/Sports Teams/Councils" should be put in its own section called "Extracurricular activities" and the Chapters section should be expand with an explanation of what chapters are. Calebrw (talk
    ) 13:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Florida Virtual School (Mid) I changed to Mid because of the historical implications of being on of the first, if not the first online high schools in the USA. If you would like to change the class of this article from start, please do what is listed in the To-Do section of the articles talk page. Calebrw (talk) 13:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Port Charlotte High School (C/low) Normally, this would be B, but based on the sheer number of citations needed, I'm rating C. Calebrw (talk) 14:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

August 2008

September 2008

  • Annenschule - I am assessing this as High importance/B class within Schools. Wikiolap (talk) 04:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Upper Canada College (B/Top) I am assessing this as a Top importance school from Canada. It has referencing problems that are blocking it from GA status, but I believe it is worthy of High-Top importances. --Jh12 (talk) 17:38, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Loyola Jesuit College (Start/Mid) Needs additional references and expansion. Assessing as Mid importance for now. --Jh12 (talk) 19:11, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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  • Towson High School (B/Mid) A pretty good article actually; appears to be well-sourced, but may need expansion and even more referencing. Around B/C class; giving B due to good organization/images. I normally assess Newsweek sub 125 as Low, but assessed Mid due to Newsweek #240 in 2008, Blue Ribbon 2002, alumni including Michael Phelps: his attendance of Towson is well-sourced on the Michael Phelps page. --Jh12 (talk) 22:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Townsend Harris High School (Start/High) The current form of the school: #45 by US News and World Report, is actually a Mid importance school. The article, however, includes history of its previous incarnation (Townsend Harris Hall), the school of three Nobel Laureates, six Pulitzer Prize Winners, and two Recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. --Jh12 (talk) 07:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
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  • Stonyhurst College With approval, I believe current GA nominee Stonyhurst College should be changed to Top importance due to its literary significance. --Jh12 (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I personally think the current high importance rating is about right. Even though I live in the UK, I'd never actually heard of the school before Wikipedia, whereas everyone has heard of Eton, Harrow, Winchester, Rugby, etc. What do other UK editors think? Dahliarose (talk) 12:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Well the article has a very long history and the alumni is very extensive, so top importance does not sound unreasonable. However, I also had never heard of it before the article was brought to my attention.
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  • It depends how many English schools we want to make top importance. If Stonyhurst is top then
    St Paul's School (London). Stonyhurst has a particularly well written and referenced article, which I suspect conflates its seeming importance. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 20:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I can where you are coming from there. A lot of those articles linked are not of that good quality compared to this one, so there importance is more difficult to recognise. We also want to keep the distribution of top importance articles reasonably balanced around the world, though some countries will always have a quite a lot more than others. There are currently 28 individual school top importance articles, of which 5 of them (17%) are in England. I was interested to discover that there are only 6 in the USA by comparison, despite the fact the country is a lot bigger in population and land mass (I think the lack of history for a lot of the schools there is a cause). So from this area there is certainly no more demand for any Top importance England school articles, though it would be good to have one from another part of the UK such as Scotland. Also, I will add that out of the currently listed top importance England school articles I heard of three of them before coming to Wikipedia, I had never heard of any of the above before now.
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    20:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I can help with adding more Top importance American schools. Most will essentially be the private and private boarding schools around New England: the ones I've heard of, the ones identified by the Wall Street Journal, and from the Selection Bot results. I have to admit, I only knew two British secondary schools before Wikipedia: Eton College (which I've seen in person) and Stonyhurst, because I read a biography on J.R.R. Tolkien. But reading your discussion, it looks like High for Stonyhurst is fine. Placing a few of the other UK schools as Top is not a problem for me, however, because there are so many schools with established histories. Some of the top scoring public schools in the US, mostly magnets like Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, are less than 50 years old. In regards to African schools, the page Africa Almanac could be useful --Jh12 (talk) 07:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I missed that there was a Scottish school on the list; it is good to have at least one non-England UK school there.
    (talk)
    17:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Assumption High School (Louisiana) (Stub / Low) Still at Stub level: too many lists currently, and not enough references. Have added some advice at the talk page --Jh12 (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Royal College, Colombo (C/Top) A substantial article but only two references. A prestigious school in Sri Lanka with a lengthy list of prominent alumni including two prime ministers and a sultan. Dahliarose (talk) 23:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • St Patrick's High School, Karachi (Start / Top) Reassessing from Mid to Top importance. School from Pakistan educated both the former and present Presidents of Pakistan, two Prime Ministers of Pakistan, and others. Currently borderline Start-C level; a bit too much of it perhaps is uncited to place as C. --Jh12 (talk
    ) 07:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Victoria Institution (Start/High). Re-assessment of this Malaysian school after being picked up by the selection bot. Changed from mid to high importance on the strength of the alumni which include the Sultan of Brunei. Probably a top importance school but the article is completely lacking in references and it is difficult to judge based on the existing content.
  • Raffles Institution (B/Top) The oldest school in Singapore with a president and a prime minister amongst its alumni. Lots of books have been written about the school. Another one picked up by the bot. Bafflingly it was previously assessed as low importance. Now upgraded to top. Dahliarose (talk) 12:04, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Hwa Chong Institution (C/high). Another prestigious school in Singapore picked up by the bot. It was previously assessed as B/low. I've downgraded it to a C because of the lack of references and the large amount of trivia and copyvio (school songs). I've bumped it up to high. If references can be provided to back up the article then this will probably be top importance. Dahliarose (talk) 12:04, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Middle School (Start/Top) Selected for inclusion in the next Wikipedia DVD release. Upgraded to top importance to bring into line with the other key terminology articles (high school, secondary school, etc.). An embarrassingly poor article at present with many unreferenced sections. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 12:04, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Auckland Grammar School (B/Top) Selected for inclusion in the next Wikipedia DVD release. A top boys' school in New Zealand, and one of the largest schools in the country. The alumni include Russell Crowe and a former president of the United Nations. The school's international importance is testified by the astonishing number of articles on the school in foreign language Wikis. Upgraded from high to top importance.
  • Geelong Grammar School (C/High). Another school picked up by the bot. It is a prestigious Australian school. The alumni include Kerry Packer, a prime minister and a former King of Malaysia. Prince Charles also spent some time at the school. The school is easily high importance. I wonder if it merits top importance. Would an Australian editor like to comment?Dahliarose (talk) 12:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I've left this as high importance for now. The alumni are poorly sourced, so perhaps it can be reviewed and possibly upgraded when the referencing has been improved. Dahliarose (talk) 08:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Kunstakademie Düsseldorf (Stub/High) An important German arts academy with distinguished alumni including Joseph Beuys, Günter Grass and Paul Klee. A poor unreferenced article - deserves better. There are other related articles which could probably be merged. Dahliarose (talk) 14:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Lalo Schiffrin amongst its alumni. A poor article devoid of references. The school deserves much better. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 14:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Milton Academy (Start/High) Reassessing from Low to High importance due to WSJ ranking and alumni including Nobel-prize winner T. S. Eliot, presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, and Pulitzer-prize winner David Lindsay-Abaire. Needs much better referencing and some clarification/cleanup. --Jh12 (talk) 04:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Flower Mound High School (C/Low) I have changed the class to C-Class. The article has moved past start class rating but seems to be short of B class. It is fairly well organized. The athletic section using subsections for each sport needs to be expanded or the subsection removed and changed to a list format. Other short sections need to be expanded or combined. Issues related to the various tags on the article need to be addressed. I would like someone else with more experience to review my assessment. Dbiel (Talk) 01:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Not really one of the most experienced assessors, but I agree with C/Low. It's cleaned up even more since its assessment and is closer to B, but I'd like to see more citations and a bit more cleanup. Fine arts still needs cleanup and more refs. Art, Jaguar Band, Academic Decathlon, Debate have no references and all include rankings/awards. --Jh12 (talk) 02:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Wesley College, Melbourne (B/High) First GA attempt failed on Sept. 4, but it looks even closer now. Assessing High importance due to list of alumni and relative to Who's Who rankings. Scotch College and Melbourne High are currently Top, so the rest of the boy's schools will probably be High. --Jh12 (talk) 02:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Catholic High School, Singapore (C/Mid) Upgrading Start -> C-class. Has been cleaned up since it was last tagged and assessed. Now has some references, but still needs significantly more for B-class. --Jh12 (talk) 21:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Port Charlotte High School (B/Low) Upgrading C -> B-class. Referencing has improved to satisfy criterion 1 of B-class, but could be improved in several areas before it is ready for GA. Suggestions have been added by myself and User:Eóin --Jh12 (talk) 21:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Beverly Hills High School (B/High) Reassessing from Mid to High importance due to number of arts alumni and references in national press. Actually could be downgraded to C-class, but would probably be B if more of the external links were converted to proper references. --Jh12 (talk) 12:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School of Music & Art and Performing Arts (Start/High) Also reassessing from Mid to High. The sheer number of arts alumni associated with this school is around Top-importance level, but I would like to see at least a few more references. --Jh12 (talk
    ) 12:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Chicago Public Schools (Start/High) Reassessing from Mid to High importance: third largest school district in the United States behind New York NYCDOE and Los Angeles LAUSD [2]
  • St. John's Jesuit High School and Academy (C/Mid) Upgraded from Start to C-Class. Article should be reviewed by a more qualified reviewer as it maybe B-Class. Article could use some additional references. Set importance to mid. Dbiel (Talk) 05:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree with C-class; needs far more references. --Jh12 (talk) 13:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Lake Elsinore Unified School District (C/Low) Looks pretty good, but would like to see more references and expansion for B-class. --Jh12 (talk) 13:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Chicago Vocational Career Academy (B/Mid) I believe this article is sufficiently referenced and organized to meet all aspects of the B-class criteria. Importance is a highly subjective measure, but given the alumni and unique history I would place this article as solidly Mid-importance. --Jh12 (talk
    ) 08:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Groton School (Start/Top) Upgrading to Top imporance: Number 12 in the world on the US WSJ list; alumni includes Franklin D. Roosevelt and much of both his family and Teddy Roosevelt's family, along with many other senators, representatives, etc. --Jh12 (talk) 12:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • The Blake School (Minneapolis, Minnesota) (B/High) Upgrading from Low to High. Would actually call this a C-class now. Currently almost questionable High but it is on the WSJ list, has some notable alumni, and I will assume even more information will be revealed over time. --Jh12 (talk
    ) 13:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Kent Place School (Start/High) High only because of WSJ reference and two alumni: can be changed to Mid at any time. Note that the class-size of such private schools are around 50-60, so that may explain the low output. --Jh12 (talk) 13:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Oslo katedralskole which is of a similar age and has an equally impressive collection of alumni. Dahliarose (talk
    ) 19:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Saint Ann's School (Brooklyn) (Start/High) from ? importance - Borderline Stub-Start: another WSJ New York private school. Lists ~30 notable alumni with Wikipedia articles, but that's basically the entire content of the article. --Jh12 (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Brearley School (C/High) from (Start/?) - WSJ all-girls private school. References have been added since first assessment. Lists 17 notable alumni, including the physician Virginia Frantz, but needs more references for that section and two more minor ones. --Jh12 (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Chapin School (Manhattan) (Start/High) from ? importance - Another WSJ all-girls private school. Lists 13 notable alumni with Wikipedia articles, including the dowager Queen of Jordan, but doesn't have any content aside from a History and Notable alumni section. --Jh12 (talk
    ) 04:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Three changes were made to Australian boys' schools on the Who's Who rankings:

1. Scotch College, Melbourne Top
2. Melbourne Grammar School High (previously unassessed)
3.

Melbourne High School (Victoria)
Top
4. Geelong Grammar School High
5. Sydney Boys High School High
6. Wesley College, Melbourne High
7. Sydney Church of England Grammar School High (previously Mid)
8. Fort Street High School High
9. North Sydney Boys High School High (previously unassessed)
10. Sydney Grammar School Top
--Jh12 (talk) 20:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

  • I'm uncertain about the following changes for the girls' Who's Who rankings, and will wait a bit to make them (last number is a quick count of alumni with Wikipedia pages):

1. Presbyterian Ladies' College, Melbourne High (previously unassessed) 21
2. SCEGGS Darlinghurst High (previously unassessed) 12
3. Methodist Ladies' College, Melbourne High (previously unassessed) 14
4. Presbyterian Ladies' College, Sydney High 18
5.

Melbourne Girls Grammar School
Mid (previously unassessed) 4
6. Mac.Robertson Girls' High School Mid 5
7. North Sydney Girls High School High (previously unassessed) 9
8. Sydney Girls High School High (previously Mid) 15
9. MLC School Mid (previously unassessed) 8
10. University High School, Melbourne High (previously Low) 40
--Jh12 (talk) 20:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Trabuco Hills High School (C/Low) - Upgrading to C, but needs far more references and some clarification. Have left advice on talk page: personal estimate is it needs about 35 more refs/double references. --Jh12 (talk) 11:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Yokosuka High School (Stub/High) - Kind of guessing here; school of a Nobel Prize winner and the last Prime Minister of Japan Koizumi, for which I have found reliable sources. Japanese page has a much more extensive alumni list --Jh12 (talk
    ) 19:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Lycée Louis-le-Grand (Start/Top) - School of at least four French presidents and Voltaire, Victor Hugo, Edgar Degas, Eugène Delacroix, etc. Badly needs references. Is paired with Lycée Henri-IV, yet to be assessed (High or Top) --Jh12 (talk) 10:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I've made Lycée Henri-IV top importance. There is much more content in the French version of the article and many more alumni, and it is clearly a very important school. I'm glad you managed to unearth some top French schools! Dahliarose (talk) 08:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
  • All assessed/reassessed Start/High, but requesting second opinions on these schools. --Jh12 (talk) 01:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC):
  • Sultan Abdul Hamid College
  • Penang Free School
  • S. Thomas' College
  • Ananda College
High importance seems reasonable for all these schools based on the content of the current articles. They all have a worrying lack of references, and I suspect that much of the material is copyvio. The importance rating can always be reviewed at a later date when the articles have been improved and have proper references. Dahliarose (talk) 23:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

October 2008

I whole-heartedly agree about every country having High/Top-importance schools and even from my view the article is around Mid to High, but I look at the importance assessment slightly differently. Every school of Top importance will definitely have the extensive alumni and background to support such a rating, it's just a matter of when the article develops to the point where it can demonstrate that importance. If that supporting material isn't there, I'd rather assess lower because there may be far more notable institutions that just haven't made their way to Wikipedia yet. --Jh12 (talk) 21:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Valid view, but when (nearly) every American footballer is notable then its a bit unfair to wait for Armenians to make their fame apparent in Wikipedia. Although I can see your point I think that it will be a long time before they make it. This school was previously named after a famous Armenian playwright called
Gabriel Soundukyan - not only has Wikipedia not heard of him but Google only just shows you a statue built in his honour but no idea who he is. If we wait for these people to be notable on an English language wikipedia then these countries will wait a long time for schools rated as "Top". I prefer to guess with three we have and downrate them as we find American footballers who went to them (last bit was an attempt at a joke). Oh and this school will be on the front page of wikipedia in the next few hours. Cheers. Victuallers (talk
) 08:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Well done Victuallers on another excellent article! I would endorse the high importance rating, especially in view of the lack of other Armenian schools with Wikipedia articles. We need to do our best to encourage articles on schools in other countries to counter the systemic bias in Wikipedia (just compare the number of American schools on Wikipedia with the number of Chinese schools for instance). Of the three existing Armenian school articles this seems to be the most interesting and important school. In countries where English is not the first language it can be difficult to judge schools by alumni lists, as often very important people (politicians, writers, etc) don't have their own Wikipedia articles. Dahliarose (talk) 23:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
All good points, but I will probably continue to trend lower importance unless given other indication. My reasoning is that regardless of systemic bias, the burden of proof is still on the editor, not the assessor. Unless a person has first-hand knowledge of the country, it's hard to tell if a school is notable, particularly if it lacks references. For instance, I know with a high degree of confidence that there are two definite Top-importance schools in Taiwan:
High School attached to Tsinghua University is a highly prestigious school in mainland China. But none of that knowledge is of use unless the articles support it. --Jh12 (talk
) 00:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

All assessed/reassessed Start/High, but requesting second opinions on these schools --Jh12 (talk) 01:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I think this could possibly be top importance. The alumni list is relatively short at present but includes some internationally recognised people such as Michael Douglas, Indira Gandhi and the Queen of Thailand. As the school where the IB programme was created it has international recognition. It's also on the Guardian list of top international schools [3]. Dahliarose (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
This school could well be top importance if the claims can be referenced and if the alumni list is expanded. Dahliarose (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Has now been assessed as high importance. Dahliarose (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I just did some research to check. We may want to wikilink
Lycée stage http://www.cofat.terre.defense.gouv.fr/PJ/Documents/Decouverte/ODF/Lycees/Documents/2CYCLE.pdf. More information is available at the French ministry of defense site in terms of admission requirements, and there's a very brief profile page. Lycées de la Défense Prytanée National Militaire profile

November 2008

  • WP:NPOV is needed, and references are cruicial. If this article has enough solid referneces and the NPOV issue is addressed, a GA class is close. Tmwerty (talk
    ) 20:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Garden City High School (Kansas) "B/???" Upgrading to B - class. The article is solid, but needs more references at this length, and a wider range would be helpful too. The text in the article is detailed and I think this article could soon have A status. Tmwerty (talk) 14:16, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Westminster Under School (C/Mid) - The article is slightly more advanced from start-class, but it needs additional reference work/third-party sources and is missing content. --Jh12 (talk) 17:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Charlotte High School (Punta Gorda, Florida) (C/Low) - Excellent referencing and organization: the article has aspects of a B-class but lacks any information on extracurricular activities. --Jh12 (talk) 17:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Avonbourne School (Bournemouth, England) (Start/Low) - I added some basic refs, but as I indicated on the article's talk the body of the article is currently unsourced. It could also be expanded per the article guidelines. --Jh12 (talk
    ) 17:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • University High School (Irvine, California) (C/Mid) - Upgraded from Start/Low. Because such a large portion of this article is unreferenced, I was tempted to keep it at Start. Its rankings, however, are reliably sourced and the article shows more organization/content than a Start. Upgraded to mid due to aforementioned rankings and alumni. --Jh12 (talk) 07:19, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

December 2008

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