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Request for Comment - Introduction to Whataboutism
There is an ongoing Request for Comment about the introduction to the article Whataboutism.
You may comment if you wish, at Talk:Whataboutism#RfC:_Introduction_to_the_subject. Sagecandor (talk) 22:00, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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Season's greetings, I just wanted ya'll to know that there's a discussion at the Cold War talk page that I have a feeling may interest you. Best, GPRamirez5 (talk) 17:12, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
A-Class review for Brilliant Pebbles needs attention
A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Brilliant Pebbles; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 08:02, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Invitation to edit
Hi, I invite you to edit and expand this article United States involvement in regime change in Latin America that would certainly benefit from more editors. Greetings. --Dereck Camacho (talk) 05:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
Portals are being redesigned.
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At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.
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Background
On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.
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Nomination of Portal:Cold War for deletion
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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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There is a discussion about Template:Inter Cold War Tensions and Second Cold War which may interest participants at this Wikiproject. Please give your opinion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 November 14#Template:Inter Cold War Tensions and Second Cold War. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:08, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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RfCs on MOS:NOTUSA and lead paragraph wording for Battle of Huế
Hi! There are two RfCs open about wording in the article Battle of Huế, located at its talk page here and here. Any participation is welcome! — MarkH21talk 08:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Gerald Ford FAR
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Your participation is invited at Category talk:Communism § Categorization of Communism, Totalitarianism, Authoritarianism. Thanks, Lev!vich 03:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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Romania: getting things straight
I have noticed an ambivalence of sorts in relation to Romania's status during the Cold War. While Socialist Romania lacks the "satellite state" tag in its article, it is still shown as such on certain maps. My latest large-scale project is aimed and dismantling once and for all the inaccurate notion that Romania was a Soviet satellite, and thus to bring clarity to this issue. I worked on a comprehensive paragraph on the Satellite state article which treats every aspect in detail and with all due sources. Let's take the characteristics of a satellite state one by one, and see why Romania didn't fit in any:
- Political: One may argue that the Romanian Communist regime continued in its practices due to some Soviet pressure. Ofcourse, this notion fails to account for Stalinist and isolationist Albania at the time, and for a modern example, devoutly Communist Cuba. The longevity or harshness of a Communist regime in a country other than China isn't necessarily tied to Soviet influence, as was also Romania's case. In international affairs, most conclusively, Romania was the only Warsaw Pact country ever to vote against the Soviet Union in the UN Assembly, and sent athletes to the Soviet-boycotted 1984 Olympics. There is also the infamous denunciation of the Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.
- Economic: Romania firmly rejected Soviet designs on its economy in 1964, and this was apparently seen as the moment when Romania declared its independence from the Soviets. Things escalated to such extent in 1967 a special provision was adopted by the Comecon at least in part due to Romania's actions, to prevent it from outright leaving or driving the alliance to an impasse. Romania was the only WP country who traded mostly with non-Communist states and was a member of both the IMF and the World Bank. Soviet economic leverage over Romania was almost non-exisent due to the country's oil and grain.
- Military: There were no Soviet troops in Romania starting from 1958. From 1962, Romania also refused to take part in WP exercises or host them, didn't allow foreign troops on its territory, Soviet or otherwise.
As you can see, all aspects of satellite statehood do not hold up under scrutiny. The notion of Romania being a satellite after 1964 is moot. It's Warsaw Pact membership doesn't change this, if anything it makes it even more conclusive: Romania managed all this while remaining in the Pact! All that I said above is sourced, though not here. It's all in the paragraph I wrote in the Satellite state article. Based on all these facts, I urge the immediate modification of maps that portray Romania as Soviet-aligned, such as this (should paint Romania a different color and have text "Former USSR-aligned country (Romania, aligned until 1964)"). This map is a potent counter-example which accurately portrays the situation. This is another offender: again, paint Romania differently and add "USSR-aligned until 1964". Here too, Romania should be orange like Albania.
Edit: I forgot to address this, largely because I haven't written and sourced this argument in any actual article yet, but I preliminarily address it here: Some may wonder, if Romania was independent, why it stayed in the Pact to begin with? It wasn't Soviet coercion, at least not primarily. We can conclusively see this in the Pact's summit in December 1989, right after Malta. As late as then, Ceausescu - alone among his peers - argued for a strengthening of the Warsaw Pact. Truth be told, he was about as much a Communist as he was a nationalist. Why didn't Romania leave? Because Ceausescu wanted the Pact, he wanted Romania to be in it, and he wanted it to be strong against NATO. Source for this is here, might use it later. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Transylvania1916, I agree with your initiative. I wonder if this could be mentioned in Socialist Republic of Romania as well. It might be good to clarify Romania's status there. Super Ψ Dro 11:59, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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Important wikiproject
I would like to say that this wikiproject is important, and i suggest that this wikiproject should be reactivated. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
There have been attempts - but espionage and cold war have been subsumed into the larger... JarrahTree 13:16, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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