Talk:2024 Iranian Strikes in Israel#Requested move 13 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.
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There is a request for comment at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RFC:_The_Anti-Defamation_League that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Mistamystery (talk ) 23:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Iranian strikes in Israel#Requested move 14 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk ) 19:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2023 Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip#Requested move 11 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk ) 00:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:State of Palestine § Copy editing/maintenance needed . Sdkb talk 18:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
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I'm not too surprised given the prominence of the conflict. These are he-wiki users though so the question is what you think could/should be done here at en-wiki? Alaexis ¿question? 21:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
The group is focused on coordinating I/P editing on English Wikipedia, so it is relevant to this project. MarioGom (talk ) 21:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
I guess the discussion might continue at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee#ARBCOM , since there is a longer discussion on canvassing efforts there. MarioGom (talk ) 22:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC) (This topic might be partly out of scope there. MarioGom (talk ) 06:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)) [ reply ]
This group is focused on writing encyclopedic entries related to Israel, not only about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, although it is also about it, and its goal is to bring to the attention of readers only correct and verified information. The group in no way engages in biasing of articles, in contrast to extensive pro-Palestinian activity on the English Wikipedia. דוד שי (talk ) 02:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
Every special-interest group that organises to edit Wikipedia claims to only want to bring "correct and verified information". Zero talk 03:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
I do not dispute that you might discuss other articles, but the list of 35 English Wikipedia target articles publicly shared by the group is 100% about the Israel-Palestine conflict and, more specifically, about the 2023-2024 Israel-Gaza War. In any case, the policies and guidelines I linked in the original post apply regardless of how broad the interests of the group might be. MarioGom (talk ) 06:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
I understand that the coordinators of this group have read this, since the group invite link has been revoked and the post recruiting people on the Hebrew Wikipedia Facebook group has been deleted. I assume there are no intentions to comply with English Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Just do your thing with the IDF Spokeperson Unit, with EC gaming grinding short descriptions, etc. I must admit English Wikipedia cannot do much against sufficiently motivated actors engaged in long term manipulation. MarioGom (talk ) 19:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
I agree with what your concerns, but given the imbalance of the editing that's happening here, they probably felt like they needed to do this in order to make things more balanced, not that 2 wrongs make a right. Unfortunately in the world we live in, there's a rush to come here and get a certain POV reflected and this people care less about Wikipedia than they do about their own agenda. So it becomes an arm race of which side has more editors to get their POV across. This isn't what Wikipedia is about, but given the principles it's built on, I guess it also kind of is. MaskedSinger (talk ) 05:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
The report they published about anti-Israel bias is pure non-sense. The perception that Wikipedia and realiable sources contradict their positions is not a license to ignore project policies. There are, at least, three groups organized to covertly push for pro-Israel POV: the Yesha Council , the "Wikipedia Command Center", and the "Wikipedia Lobby Group". The level of institutional support they are getting both within Wikimedia and from external organizations is unprecedented. So there is, indeed, an imbalance: the tolerance towards organized efforts by pro-Israel groups. MarioGom (talk ) 07:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
I hear you. Maybe the numbers required to be an Extended confirmed user need to be increased to 3 months and 1000 edits. Editors should be here because they want to contribute to Wikipedia, not because they have some axe to grind. Speaking of which, I see you are a page reviewer. Would you be able to have a look at Draft:Rivka Bayech ? Thankyou. MaskedSinger (talk ) 07:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
It's difficult to make accurate evidence-based statements about the dynamics or the current state of the topic area that avoid sampling bias, are independent of the observer and avoid hasty generalizations. I think the topic area is rather complicated, more like a forest canopy than a system with 2 opposing forces. It's good to have some humility about our ability construct true statements about balance and motivation etc. It may be better to focus on enforcing the simple rules than imagining we can grasp the complex dynamics. Sean.hoyland (talk ) 07:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
To illustrate the complexity, this is a graph of a tiny part of the topic area, starting at the Israel–Hamas war category as a root and mapping the network of subcats, articles, talk pages, templates etc. Even for that tiny substructure within the topic area, it seems pretty unlikely that broad statements about of balance and editor motives, are going to be accurate. Sean.hoyland (talk ) 08:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
There is a requested move at Weaponization of antisemitism that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Mistamystery (talk ) 21:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
Starting today, a user has raised issues with multiple bios written for people killed on October 7. There may be genuine notability issues with some of these articles, but they also suggested that Vivian Silver (which I wrote) be deleted. When I challenged this, they proposed deletions on two other articles I wrote, Negev Institute for Strategies of Peace and Development and Project Rozana , on the grounds they were part of a "legitimization campaign". I bring this up here to ensure other eyes are on these articles, especially if deletion nominations are made, since I can't be sure that this user is working in good faith.
The other bios that this user has raised issues with are Jayar Davidov , Roee Edan , Hayim Katsman , Roi Levy , Ofir Libstein , Izhar Peled , Yonatan Steinberg , and Yahav Winner . ForsythiaJo (talk ) 22:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
Some of these individuals are clearly notable (like Vivian Silver, Jayar Davidov, etc.), while others may be more of an edge case, on one hand they are covered by reliable sources, but on the other hand most of that coverage is related to the October 7 events (see ]
I think what I found in English is enough to establish notability, but I am not happy about some of the sources and am looking for something higher quality. FortunateSons (talk ) 09:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
The Hebrew article has many sources, including Haaretz and other newspapers. Lmk if you're looking for something specific. Alaexis ¿question? 19:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
Thank you for the very kind offer, I’ll try working with translation and see if I can figure it out :) FortunateSons (talk ) 19:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]
Hi, guys if anyone can help me in improving the sidebar template specimen for Bibi . Please tell me how does it look and is ready to create this template. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔 ) 17:05, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[ reply ]