Talk:2022 Pakistan floods

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In the beginning of the article, it is mentioned that "The floods were caused by heavier than usual monsoon rains and melting glaciers that followed a severe heat wave, all of which are linked to climate change.". Is there any proofs to support this claim, specifically that the floods were caused by melting glaciers? Seaml (talk) 21:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good point - I have added a cite Chidgk1 (talk) 12:32, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Indian Ocean is one of the fastest warming oceans in the world, warming by an average of 1 °C (34 °F) (while worldwide temperatures are now at 1.2 °C (34.2 °F) above pre-industrial temperatures, oceans in general are at around 0.7 °C (33.3 °F)).

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The Indian Ocean is one of the fastest warming oceans in the world, warming by an average of 1 °C (1.8 °F) (while worldwide temperatures are now at 1.2 °C (2.18 °F) above pre-industrial temperatures, oceans in general are at around 0.7 °C (1.26 °F)).

(Reason: Currently, the temperature by which the Indian Ocean rises is displayed in a "convert" notation that uses absolute conversion, leading to a false display of Fahrenheit temperatures.

While 1°C in absolute terms, as in on a thermometer, is indeed 33.8 °F, a change by one degree celsius is a change by 1.8 °F. The article needs to reflect this, so the use of the convert command is misleading at best.

Please edit the places where the convert command was used to reflect the accurate measurements in both celsius and fahrenheit, instead.) 2.202.58.238 (talk) 09:50, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I corrected the parameters of the convert template instead of using plain text, but the effect is the same. Thanks for identifying this. (I also commented out the reference above since it's not related to the request and confuses the talk page layout.) --Bsherr (talk) 17:09, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under International Response it says for Bangladesh that "On August 2030, Bangladeshi PM...", whereas the footnote says that it was on "30 August", which also makes more sense. Pazul42 (talk) 08:24, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Following the discussion, the merge tag should be removed and replaced with {{being merged}}. 47.16.96.33 (talk) 19:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done in [1] Ductwork (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article for the 2022 Sindh floods shows that 1,569 people died in the province, cited and all. If you combine that with deaths in Balochistan, Punjab etc, you get a death toll of 2,505. Should the death toll be changed? Quake1234 (talk) 12:53, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is some user difference of opinion about the statement by the Sherry Rehman (government minister) saying that "one third of Pakistan was under water". That statement was widely reported and continues to be reported (as of February 2023). I was the user who added the scientific research references that suggested a lower flooding area in the region of 10-12%. I left the original ministerial claim not because it may or may not be correct, but because a government official had made the claim. Therefore it is notable and encyclopedic to show the difference between the government position and those of some scientists. I think it's wrong to remove any mention of the "one third" claim, because it doesn't help the reader of this article to gain an understanding of the events as they happened at the time and, perhaps most importantly, the international reaction to the floods in possible large part driven by the "one third" claim. I noticed that all mention of the "one third" claim was removed, so I reverted. That was then reverted back, but I'm not going to revert again at this time to avoid an edit war. I think it's actually quite interesting and notable to see how the political reaction to these floods was stated at the time. It would be interesting to see what everyone else thinks about this. Seaweed (talk) 14:34, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]