Talk:Duel Masters

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Ummm, perhaps an article on a show should mention what the show is about? Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:43, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It should but since the article is alreayd tag as needing server attention i think that suggest the article is of poor standard, but there no point adding information like that if it cant be sourced in some way as it makes hte artilce even worse and more work to do--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 14:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the article needs a lot of work. Since I know next to nothing about the subject, I'm just going to make some (hopefully constructive) suggestions…

Firstly, it's not at all clear which area the franchise began with — the manga or the game. I think it makes the most sense if the article is ordered chronologically so far as that goes (right now, the section on the game comes first).

Relatedly, the origin of the card game is told out of order and confusingly:

The card game was made by Wizards of the Coast. When importing the game from Japan

This is, of course, inconsistent. Tell us first about the Japanese company which actually made the game!

Meanwhile, the Yu-Gi-Oh franchise comes to us out of nowhere. The first mention on the page is in the subsection "Differences between the versions", discussing the anime.

While the Japanese version seems to rely more on visual and situational humor, the American version tends to use much more verbal humor. Also, while the Japanese version is mostly a traditional card-game show with much humor, the American version is a flat-out parody of the genre. For example, many times in Yu-gi-oh [never mentioned before in this article] Yugi would say "Believe in the heart of your cards," which Shobu also says in Duel Masters.

It would appear that either Duel Masters or Yu-Gi-Oh is strongly influenced by the other franchise, but since the relevant years aren't given, we can't tell which came first. Yu-Gi-Oh, being both very popular and similar, should probably be mentioned in the intro.

Finally, the "Characters" are written as though they come from the anime, but presumably they all first appeared in the manga, so it would make more sense for them to be listed in a subsection under "Manga", with the information on voice actors moved to a subsection under "Anime".

This is tied into the show:

• http://web.archive.org/web/20050202062203/http://noveltyflyingcapes.com/

WhisperToMe (talk) 14:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OMG! there are creatures w/ TRIPLE breaker?! is that even real?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.52.74.233 (talk) 00:58, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a LOT of bias in the "differences between versions" section ("In all honesty, the japanese version is more serious than the english"? really? how do WE know that? people say that so much about all the dubs. we don't know about the cultural connatations!) Also, it honestly looks like a weeaboo edited that. The terms that they used are just regular Japanese. Can a fan of this series please check it over, because I have no idea if these terms are meant to be exclusive to Duel Masters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.117.244.25 (talk) 23:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but this article is perhaps one of the worst I've seen on here. Aside from anything else, it doesn't mention there WAS a Duel Masters video game released outside of Japan on the PS2, simply titled "Duel Masters". It features five game-exclusive player characters, each of whom specialise in one of the five civilisations. Knight from the Anime appears to each of them in order to make them raise their ranks to "Master", obtain so-called legendary cards for their element and then face off against Widow who wants to control the civilisations for herself. The game also had OPEN cheat codes, which were all accessed by holding R3 and pressing certain buttons (X-[]-Triangle, for example, would take one card from your deck and add it to your shields). Overall, I think this other video game needs recognition. Jonouchisan (talk) 05:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, which idea was first? Was it originally a manga that evolved into TCG, anime and so on, or the TCG idea came out first but started with manga? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 08:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Manga turned into Anime Series and corresponding TCG. Yami Michael (talk) 13:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Based on release dates? Yes. But we don't know how (Takara) Tomy planned the franchise. We need more resources on how they developed the entire franchise. JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 17:19, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You would think I'm kidding...but that sort of resource just doesn't exist. The main sites for the game are the English wikia, as well as a Japanese atwiki site. Both cant really be taken as a "source", and the takaratomy site is more kid-focused, and doesn't really feature articles and details about design (like how Magic design the game/franchise). If I find anything decent, I'll post it, but yeah.

Info on the manga at all is usually sparse and spread between places (including the JPN wikipedia page). Other then when it changed for a series to promote Magic the Gathering, there was no real plan to switch to a TCG. They might have been planning it from book 1 (until book 7/8 switched to the Duel Masters game) or it was a last minute thing, and then the game and anime followed. Too hard to determine. :/ Yami Michael (talk) 18:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You know... I think this is the only mention throughout all of the article and the Talk page (and probably anything on English Wikipedia relating to Duel Masters) about the Duel Masters manga first using Magic: the Gathering before making its own pale imitation. Formedras (talk) 10:30, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]