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    More on the Confederate Flag

    The article says this was the first time the confederate flag was flown in the Capital. However in 2015 during a debate about the use of the flag, an (incorrect) version of it was on display the House. While I guess we could get in semantics about it not being the real one, I think it warrants discussion about the accuracy of the claim. House Dems display incorrect Confederate flag | The Hill Anyway thoughts? 3Kingdoms (talk) 18:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What has this to do with events 4 years later? Slatersteven (talk) 18:07, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This page says January 6 was the first time the flag was flown in the capital. However after seeing the article linked I wanted to know what others think about this being accurate.Also sorry if my original post was not clear. I revised it to explain why I brought this up.3Kingdoms (talk) 19:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That isn't a flag. DN (talk) 18:09, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    true, but I can see some people saying that’s semantics so I want to see what others think. At the moment seeing this at least makes me wonder if the statement about it being the first time flown in the capital should be revised or removed. 3Kingdoms (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm open to claims that some congressman or protester peacefully might have entered the capitol with a flag sometime in the 1950-70s, but the exhibit on the House floor isn't relevant. Imagine how many swastikas or sickles-and-hammers have been shown as exhibits. Feoffer (talk) 12:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Im think you need to read
    wp:or says Y. Slatersteven (talk) 13:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    We have reliable sources saying it was the first time, but another reliable source appears to contradict that information. My only point is to ask what people think. 3Kingdoms (talk) 15:06, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No we have a reliable source saying it and your
    wp:or saying otherwise. It is not a flag, it is not flying and it is not being carried (and (as the source says) it's not even a Confederate flag). Slatersteven (talk) 15:17, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    The CNN article linked also mentions other times it has been displayed. My whole point is to hear what people think and try to avoid people arguing semantics. For example flying the flag usually refers to hanging on polls so one could argue that since it was only carried it was not “flown”. I never argued that it be removed only that it seemed possible there was doubt to the claim and wished to hear from others. 3Kingdoms (talk) 15:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Okay from the CNN article: “While versions of the Confederate flag have appeared in legitimate exhibits in the country’s legislative headquarters, the closest any rebel carrying a Confederate flag ever came to the Capitol was about 6 miles, during the Battle of Fort Stevens on July 11 and 12, 1864.” Maybe it should be revised to being the first unlawful display of the flag in the capital? Thoughts?

    Does the source say unlawful or "rebel carrying a Confederate flag"? Slatersteven (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    “Rebel”, but I can see people getting into a back and forth about using the term rebel so unlawful could be the neutral compromise choice. 3Kingdoms (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    LIke with "FIRST TIME"? Slatersteven (talk) 10:31, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes I could see that happening so I think discussing and working on a consensus would be prudent. 3Kingdoms (talk) 14:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]