Talk:Jeanne Calment

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Jeanne Calment's true age

After Kane Tanaka died at 119, Jeanne Calment's age looks more suspicious than before. I notice that some sources claim her daughter had stolen her identity. The fact that she outlived the second-oldest person ever by more than 3 years makes this claim somewhat more reasonable. I mean, when someone approaches the biological limit of human life span, every day would be a hefty challenge (just like breaking the 100-metre dash world record, every 0.01s would be a huge breakthrough). I reckon people should start conducting another investigation into her age. 120.16.102.86 (talk) 12:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree obviously! Extremely sexy (talk) 02:10, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Completely agree. The fact that #2 lived only 10 days longer than #3, and #4 is currently living at 118, I think Calment's age is dubious. However, it's not uncommon to spot huge, massive statistical outliers. But I don't see how launching another investigation into her age even remotely correlates to her Wikipedia talk page, unless you're seriously suggesting the investigation should be carried out by Wikipedia itself. 146.200.180.251 (talk) 18:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The investigation continues outside Wikipedia. Zak and Gibbs published a new book: "Jeanne Calment, the Secret of Longevity Unravelled: Volume I, The switch", https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BGQL8B2G. 81.154.127.249 (talk) 18:53, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The dataset is so weird. If we look at this here:
Oldest people
Then most of this range is from 117 to 119.
While it is, theoretically, possible to have outliers above, it seems
WAY too convenient for it to be at 122, in the year 1997. 2A02:8388:1641:4980:0:0:0:2 (talk) 11:30, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Geneticists have noted that, since Jeanne Calment had 16 distinct great-great-grandparents while her daughter Yvonne had only 12, the question of identity could easily be settled by a test for autozygous DNA, if a blood or tissue sample were to be made available.[1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.94.8.31 (talk) 22:54, 30 Apr 2023 (UTC)
It's another example of the King effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:A099:BB00:28D2:A2B3:BB51:278E (talk) 20:15, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yet here on Wiki you have proof that the 100m record was broken by 0.9 seconds 14 years ago. Plus Robert Wadlow was 2 inches taller than anyone ever, and than was 80 years ago. 2A00:23C7:6393:B201:F11B:8DC5:10:8941 (talk) 22:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

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A couple of factual errors

"At the outbreak of World War I, her husband Fernand, who was 46, was deemed too old to serve in the military." In fact he was under 46 and his military record which is available online from Arles archives show that he was indeed mobilised. The cited source is wrong.

"In 1994, the city of Arles inquired about Calment's personal documents, in order to contribute to the city archives. However, reportedly on Calment's instructions, her documents and family photographs were selectively burned by a distant family member" The destruction of her archives was already reported in the 1988 Paris Match interview referenced, so it was not connected to any 1994 inquiry. I realise the statement does not say directly that it was but it has been interpreted that way.

I am not going to edit because I am not sure if these would count as OR. Weburbia (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Birthtime of Jeanne Louise Calment and her deathtime

Jeanne Louise Calment was born at 7:00 AM (06:00 GMT) on the Second Sunday of Lent, 21 February 1875, and died at 10:45 AM (08:45 GMT) on Monday, 4 August 1997, a Feast of Saint John Vianney. Birthtimes and deathtimes are important because the difference of timezones. The standard timezone of Wikipedia is GMT, not including DST.

189.69.67.106 (talk) 18:01, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how any of that is relevant. Please explain. --McSly (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2023

Under ‘Oldest documented human’, at the end of the first paragraph in the final sentence (‘Calment…manners.’), change ‘van Gogh’ to ‘Van Gogh’. 185.88.53.15 (talk) 21:02, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The name is Dutch and is normally lower case. Following the Wikipedia Manual of Style on personal names,
MOS:PERSONAL, the correct form is “van Gogh” and is always lower case. See also, https://www.britannica.com/biography/Vincent-van-Gogh —Danorton (talk) 21:29, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Source on Jeanne Calment eating daube

Pages 85–92 of Jeanne Calment: from Van Gogh's time to ours, 122 extraordinary years do not mention her enjoying daube. Which book, if any, contains this information? Noobnubcakes (talk) 19:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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