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A fact from Sarah Cooper appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 April 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
There is, frankly, some sort of active disinformation campaign going on regarding the article subject's year of birth. I have no idea why, but diff after diff after diff after diff from different IPs changes the article subject's year of birth from 1977 to 1984. Though I have no direct evidence to claim this, I would guess that it is politically motivated vandalism, because I see absolutely no potential source for confusion in any of the references (which all unambiguously support a birth date of either 1977 or 1978), and because of the significance of
WP:CONSENSUS-building and, if this does indeed turn out to just be vandalism, will soon pursue page protection. - Astrophobe (talk) 21:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I'm quite certain the vandalism is the result of Cooper mocking Pres. Agent Orange in Tik Tok videos by lip syncing his speeches. By the way, the first line of the "Early Life" section of this article says Cooper was still born. Is this vandalism or some kind of idiotic mistake? Lechonero (talk) 00:10, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I misread the diff as adding something that it was actually removing which had been there for a disgustingly long time. My bad. This is the sort of thing that happens when there's a persistent vandalism campaign. I've requested page protection. - Astrophobe (talk) 00:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There appears to be a bit of discrepancy, other sources are listing her age as 35, like this Washington Post story.The lorax (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wow, so there actually is some discrepancy! Well spotted, I thought I had double-checked every source but somehow I missed that. Very weird for there to be that much disagreement among reliable sources, that is a very big difference. - Astrophobe (talk) 17:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note, so we have some sort of consensus position for people to agree/disagree with: I still think the preponderance of evidence is that she was born in 1977, since that source is so at odds with the other sources we have. But that could certainly change if people find other sources to back up the 1984 claim (or think it is somehow more reliable than all the others). - Astrophobe (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move 10 July 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Note: I added a Dab page about Sarah Cooper to this RM because this article seems to be a
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for all Sarah Cooper articles whenever she is author or comedian. 36.77.94.124 (talk) 03:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Support I've been thinking the same thing actually, comedian is a more appropriate disambiguation. - Astrophobe (talk) 21:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
After all, she's not the one writing her best material.[4] – Muboshgu (talk) 22:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. She's currently getting at least 95% of all pageviews and should be getting a solid majority for the foreseeable future. That also negates the need to decide whether she's more an author or comedian. The dab page would move to Sarah Cooper (disambiguation) over the redirect. Station1 (talk) 23:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Support Move to
Sarah Cooper (comedian) She has overwhelm majority viewer in Wikipedia. 180.242.9.176 (talk) 13:53, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Move to Sarah Cooper per Station1. The other Sarah Coopers average single digit pageviews; somebody with 1.8 million twitter followers is bound to step over them for a long while. Nohomersryan (talk) 16:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —В²C☎ 11:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Move to
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The relative low notability of the other pages overrides the definitely involvement of some recentism here.--Yaksar(let's chat) 00:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Move to
WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. She has comedian had very notable compare to others with similar name. 114.125.30.187 (talk) 05:19, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Topic of videos
Regarding the series of edits around here: I encourage discussion on the wording of this sentence here so that we can reach a
Trump is not "said to have" suggested UV light and household cleaners. He suggested it. Sarah Cooper is lip synching Trump's words. The Guardian piece makes that clear. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:18, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
English variety
I've been cleaning up inconsistencies in the regional variety of English that's used and thought we should have some kind of discussion on the topic. When I wrote some of the early content for this page I suppressed my own Canadian English predilections on the theory that, by
MOS:ARTCON might favour going with another English variety. So for now I'm going to keep assuming that we're using standard American English, but needless to say I don't exactly feel strongly and would be happy to use another variety. - Astrophobe (talk) 19:03, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks for the article improvements after I nominated this for GA, Astrophobe; let me know if you would like me to add you as co-nominator. Standard American English seems fine to me. I'm in the UK so happy for copyedits to anything I've written that departs from standard American English. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:10, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the offer BennyOnTheLoose! To be honest I don't have a great sense for the pros/cons, but it sounds at first glance like it could only make things smoother since I am interested in helping to try to bring the article to GA anyways, so I should pay attention to the conversation about the GA nomination no matter what. So sure, I'd be happy to be added on! Thanks :) - Astrophobe (talk) 17:16, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the first reference, the Wayback Machine template isn't necessary or ideal to use since other references don't have it. May I suggest using "<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=|date=|first=|last=|website=|archive-url=|archive-date=|url-status=live|access-date=}}</ref>" this instead?
Some Dude From North Carolina. I've reached out to the co-nominator about the date of birth, as they may be able to resolve this more quickly than I can. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Some Dude From North Carolina - In the absence of a reliable source for Cooper's full date of birth being available, the article now just states her year of birth. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 13:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A recent GA. I see no DYK-related article issues. The hook is interesting, cited inline and verified in the source. A QPQ is needed.Krish | Talk To Me 18:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done . Verified by Google search. Have a happy birthday! Station1 (talk) 18:18, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BLPDOB, can you please also include the source you found while google searching to substantiate that date of birth? I think we have several sufficient ones on the page but the birth date itself should still be cited to a strong source. - Astrophobe (talk) 18:59, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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I reverted that, this requires a source and can not be done based on a request/claim by an anomymous IP. Assuming the IP does indeed belong to Sarah Copper, she has an easy option to remedy that. She can post her exact date of birth on her official blog, website ot twitter account and post the link here. That would be sufficient and then the article could be changed accordingly.--Kmhkmh (talk) 19:05, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Of course an IP can claim to be anybody. But it makes no difference, if we verify the request. A Google search reveals numerous sources all showing the same birth date, and
WP:VERIFY does not require inline citations for non-controversial facts, which is how it appears to me. But if anyone has reason to believe that the date might be incorrect, then it should be left out. Station1 (talk) 07:42, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Those "numerous sources" need to explicitly be cited and assessed as reliable (rather then just claimed to be existing).--Kmhkmh (talk) 20:30, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That seems sufficient as a source in this context since it is her official twitter account and doesn't contradict reliable sources on her.--Kmhkmh (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]