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Page appears blank to me. Previous versions render properly. Please revert most recent edit. 67.3.232.100 (talk) 18:20, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Done Cannolis (talk) 18:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

"In 2010, a bronze bust sculpture of Connery was placed in the capital city of Estonia.[58]"

How about ... naming the city and giving a reason why this was done and any connection between Mr. Connery and Estonia that prompted this sculpture. As it stands the comment seems grossly out of place and is only a partial fact, certainly not a comment worthy of entry in an encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.162.209.124 (talk) 03:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

This section needs tweaking. The first paragraph states "on 8 June 2006, he confirmed his retirement from acting.". The second paragraph states "Connery returned to voice acting, playing the title character in the animated short Sir Billi the Vet, and in 2005 he recorded voiceovers..." (voice-overs). The timeline is twisted plus the paragraph can confuse a reader. He either retired in 2005 and re-retired in 2006 or ...maybe it is just me, but "backward be to seems it", and the paragraph drops in from where? Otr500 (talk) 02:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I feel that this photo does not depict Roquebrune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.109.200.219 (talk) 23:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

The fact that Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington were nominated for academy awards in the same year as Connery is absolutely irrelevant and should be removed from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.87.179.4 (talk) 08:17, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

The SNP is a left-wing party, not centre-left. (92.15.207.117 (talk) 15:51, 14 February 2016 (UTC))

In 1960, Connery appeared as Hotspur in the third and fourth episodes (covering "Henry IV", part 1) of the BBC Shakespeare series "An Age of Kings", which aired in the US on WNTA-TV, channel 13 (a forerunner of public television), and won a Peabody Award in 1961. 69.50.61.35 (talk) 17:38, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

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I would like to simply change the Signature to an SVG, which i'll provide here as an attachment.

Verygoodwelltakeitfromhere (talk) 06:28, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: No that is not the way it is done on Wiki VarunFEB2003 ^{I am Online} 07:43, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Is it overlinking to state that Sean Connery was a [[Scottish people|Scottish]] actor or should the statement be removed? The Banner talk 07:39, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Per

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So, you better revert yourself, as "Scottish" does not point to a nationality but to an ethnicity. The Banner talk 17:30, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Ethnicities aren't linked either, and even if they were,

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) 18:18, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Aha, when one argument is refuted, just bring in a new argument. What about the readers and the encyclopaedia? As the guideline states: It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply. The Banner talk 18:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Don't give yourself too much credit; you didn't refute anything. The format has always been "[name] is a [nationality] [profession]", and you know that. As I explained to you numerous times, common sense entails not linking it, because an article about the entire history of Scottish people will not help a reader's understanding of an article about Sean Connery. —

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And common sense is out of the door. Too bad that you did not read any further than the lead. His membership and activities for the Scottish National Party are evidence that his ethnicity does matter. The Banner talk 20:42, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

"an article about the entire history of Scottish people will not help a reader's understanding of an article about Sean Connery" —

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Ah, did we miss the succeeding of the

The claim in the 'Personal life' section that "He had been nominated for a knighthood in 1997 and 1998, but these nominations were vetoed by Donald Dewar due to Connery's political views" is not entirely supported by the accompanying references: The July 2000 BBC report says (my emphasis added), "Connery's support for the Scottish National Party and an independent Scotland, is reported to have resulted in him being denied a knighthood in the 1997 and 1998 honours lists. The 69-year-old actor donates £4,800 a month to party coffers. The then Scottish Secretary Donald Dewar was said to have vetoed Connery's knighthood in December 1997."[1] The Observer's Euan Ferguson doesn’t mention Dewar at all, writing (again, my emphasis added): "The late 1990s were a bad period: his espousal of the SNP's cause so angered Scottish Labour, whose tireless championing of devolution rather than full independence has at least resulted in this new Parliament, that his knighthood is widely believed to have been blocked".^[2] I have reworded the sentence accordingly. JezGrove (talk) 23:02, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

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The woman showed on that picture is not Connery's wife, but Saskia Cohen Tanugi, french actress starring in Never say never again (1983). I know : she's a friend of mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kantx (talk • contribs) 21:10, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

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It is said in the beginning of the article that Sean Connery starred in seven James Bond Films. He actually starred in Six, because George Lazenby actually portrayed Bond in "On Her Majesy's Secret Service". 89.138.171.75 (talk) 14:21, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: The article says Sean Connery starred in seven Bond films between 1962 and 1983 which are:

1. Dr No
2. From Russia with Love
3. Goldfinger
4. Thunderball
5. You Only Live Twice
6. Diamonds Are Forever
7. Never Say Never Again

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Medicine Man- 1992 left out "The Man Who Would Be King" in film credits = yikes! with Michael Caine, directed by John Huston. A classic! prefix:Talk:Sean Connery/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.255.1.142 (talk) 15:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

also, what about The Longest Day (film) (1962), Connery's last film before Bond ... huge film, small part, but he and his on-screen buddy provided 'comic relief', 180 degrees opposite to Richard Burton's serious, moody role (though with a bit of ironic/sardonic 'humor' there too). 66.81.247.181 (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

His name and family name suggest jewish origin. These are Hebrew names.--2605:6000:3D10:100:9041:9544:75FB:B72F (talk) 18:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

What

reliable source do you have to support your claim ? Suggestions and personal opinions have no place here. - FlightTime (open channel

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Can someone add "A Bridge Too Far" into the introduction paragraph? This is one of his better known films.2607:F2C0:94DD:F900:E135:B768:F54C:5A6A (talk) 02:55, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a

reliable source if appropriate. Danski454 (talk

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Dead link in Retirement section

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Last ref in the § Retirement section has a dead link. Available at the Internet Archive here (dmy 1 January 2016). --77.173.90.33 (talk) 19:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done Gulumeemee (talk) 07:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

I found that he was 185 lbs in his prime at: http://thebooksaint.wixsite.com/store/007

I don't know how authoritative that is, so didn't add it to the main article. If it is suitable, or if someone else finds a better source, please add his weight to the main article.

Phantom in ca (talk) 20:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Weight can change faster than the weather, hardly encyclopedic. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 21:05, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Didn't he co-write a book called Being a Scot - partly memoirs and partly Scottish social history? Valetude (talk) 18:22, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

I see it over and over again in Wikipedia articles, and I'll never understand it as long as I live. Sean Connery is shown as an old man in his Infobox photo. The Infobox should contain a photo of Connery when he was in his prime during the James Bond series. Connery was much more handsome and marketable in 1964 than he was in 2008. Most old people are relegated to rocking chairs, and they are hated by the government because they keep collecting Social Security checks. Scrap the current photo for one from the mid-1960s.Anthony22 (talk) 02:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

We tend to use the most recent (freely-licensed) good photograph for living people. Usually photos of people in their "prime" are used once they're gone. --Inops (talk) 17:07, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

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Sean Connery and his wife have lived in the Bahamas, in Lyford Cay on New Providence Island, since the 90's. That area escaped significant damage from Hurricane Dorian, and Connery considers himself lucky. May stories to that effect. Here's one:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9875569/hurricane-dorian-sean-connery-lucky-survive-bahamas-mansion/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.197.60 (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: I'm sorry, but you want the article to say he and/or his property wasn't unduly affected by a hurricane? I cannot say I find that noteworthy. In addition, The Sun is not a

reliable source. NiciVampireHeart

14:51, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

It's certainly relevant to state that Connery resides in the Bahamas. There are dozens of sources that say he has lived there for 30 years. If you don't regard The Sun as a reliable source, how about The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/12/sean-connery-save-the-bays-bahamas-mansion-peter-nygard ? Sayitclearly (talk) 00:20, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

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Entrapment (1999) Smokestack585 (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please replace this odd phrase (British slang?)

Looking to pick up some extra money

with this simpler one

Seeking to supplement his income

Thank you. 86.161.83.216 (talk) 05:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done The previous statement is not British slang but I made the change for clarity. The requested language is more formal but does not change the meaning and is more understandable to at least one reader. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:11, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

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Sir Sean Connery has never been awarded the honour CBE and this should be removed. For some (e.g. Sir Michael Caine CBE) the lesser honour was given prior to their knighthood but not in this case. Sir Sean was made a Knight Bachelor in the 2000 New Year Honours after no previous UK honour. JackPilchard (talk) 23:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Interstellarity (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Need to include death on 31 Oct 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhardyman (talk • contribs) 12:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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as of 2020 Oktober the 31st Sean Connery has died at the age of 90 Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54761824 78.70.38.85 (talk) 12:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 12:55, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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After the recent report by the BBC about sean connery's death, we should add a death date and change "is" to "was", this a change that's not fun for anyone but making sure that the information on the site is correct is vital. Witext (talk) 12:37, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Please provide source demonstrating the date of death was 31 October. The current version [1] of this BBC source [2] confirms the death and that it was announced by the family today but doesn't say exactly when he died. Nil Einne (talk) 12:43, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Sir Sean died peacefully in his sleep, while in the Bahamas, having been "unwell for some time", his son said. 207.11.75.162 (talk) 13:19, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

It looks like someone already added it. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 13:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Could someone change the link Able seaman in the infobox to [[Able seaman (rank)|Able seaman]]? Reason: the "general" able seaman is a civilian rathing while "Able seaman (rank)" links to the Royal Navy military rank. Thanks! 2001:983:F8EA:1:B83C:5A89:2E72:BBBC (talk) 14:16, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, User:Ganbaruby! Best regards, 2001:983:F8EA:1:B83C:5A89:2E72:BBBC (talk) 15:37, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

That is not Micheline in the black and white photo from 1983. It is the actress, Saskia Cohen-Tanugi. It even mentions her name in the photo credits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB08:8D0E:500:F919:13A2:8BD7:88C1 (talk) 13:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done removed and I requested its name to be changed to "Saskia Cohen-Tanugi".

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Proper appearance of name (Sean Connery is neither KBE nor CBE)

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I recommend that the proper appearance of Sean Connery's name should be:

Sir Sean Thomas Connery (born Thomas Sean Connery; 25 August 1930)

Reasons:

1. He is a Knight Bachelor, and isn't entitled to any post-nominal letters other than "Kt" (See below for support for both.)
2. His name appears as "Sean Thomas Connery" in The London Gazette supplement that announces his Knighthood.
3. The names of Elton John and Paul McCartney both appear exactly as they appear in the announcements of their Knighthoods in The London Gazette.
4. Public figures' names should appear as the name that they're commonly known by, followed by birth name. (e.g. Elton John's Wikipedia page uses this convention: "Sir Elton," his chosen name, rather than "Sir Reginald," his birth name.)
5. He is referred to as "Sir Sean Connery" (not "Sir Thomas") on his own website.

Sean Connery was named on the list of Knights Bachelor for the 2000 New Year Honours. (Source: "No. 55710". The London Gazette (Supplement). 30 December 1999. pp. 1–2.) Note his name is give as "Sean Thomas Connery.")

(See also "Elton Hercules John" on page 2 of The London Gazette and "James Paul McCartney" on page 2 of The London Gazette. Both of these match the names on their respective Wikipedia pages.)

For details on post-nominal letters, see Knight Bachelor:

Knights Bachelor may prefix "Sir" to their forenames... Since recipients are not knights of an order of chivalry there are no post-nominal letters associated with the honour, however when the style "Sir" is awkward or incomplete due to a subsequent appointment, recipients may use the letters "Kt" after their name...

So, as a Knight Bachelor, he is entitled to neither "KBE" nor "CBE." Use of "Kt" is allowed, but I find no evidence of Connery using this convention, himself.

Each of these would be acceptable:

• Sir Sean Thomas Connery
• Sir Sean Thomas Connery Kt
• Sean Thomas Connery Kt

Since his webpage uses "Sir Sean Connery," and the public knows him as "Sean Connery," not "Thomas Sean Connery," I submit that "Sir Sean Thomas Connery" is the most appropriate naming, with clarification of birth name. His name appears as "Sean Thomas Connery" in The London Gazette (above) and as "Sir Sean Thomas Connery" for his entry in the National Portrait Galley.

In addition, instead of "Connery was knighted," "Connery was made Knight Bachelor" would be more clear, and would help prevent confusion about "KBE/CBE/Kt" in future edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:4100:29:E1BB:CAA8:39E:CDAE (talk) 15:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 17:44, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Galendalia:This change was reverted on June 8th by Proteus, who hadn't seen this discussion.

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SebFortnite (talk) 12:32, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I would like to add Pierce Brosnan as a tribute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SebFortnite (talk • contribs) 12:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:09, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add to the filmography list: Sean Connery played Zed in Zardoz. Zardoz is a 1974 Irish-American science fantasy film, and later a book, written, produced, and directed by John Boorman and starring Sean Connery and Charlotte Rampling, and featuring Sara Kestelman.The film was shot by cinematographer Geoffrey Unsworth on a budget of US$1.57 million. It depicts a post apocalyptic world where barbarians worship a stone god called "Zardoz" that grants them death and eternal life. Info-fan80 (talk) 19:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Why did his day of death get removed? It was October 31st, but now it’s either October 30th or October 31st. Even the infobox is saying October 2020. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 13:16, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

As his exact date of death has not yet been confirmed, putting 31 October 2020 seems premature as he may have died yesterday or in the past few days. Centurion1992 (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree and have report 31. I don't know if any source has specifically confirmed in October, but I think it's so likely and indeed possibly OR proves it's the case so I've left October. Nil Einne (talk) 12:39, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The BBC article now says overnight which I take to mean 30 or 31 even accepting it was in the Bahamas. Nil Einne (talk) 12:56, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The BBC did say "overnight", but no longer does. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 14:58, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The Washington Post is saying that died during the night of Oct. 30-31. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 18:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Please double-check the text below photo of Sean Connery in a Scottish kilt. I am certain that the tartan Sean is wearing is of the MacLean clan and his mother was a MacLean, not MacLeod. Maryfouts (talk) 19:26, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

From Reuters:When he was knighted at the age of 69 by Britain’s Queen Elizabeth in 2000 at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh, he wore full Scottish dress including the green-and-black plaid kilt of his mother’s MacLeod clan.

DonQuixote (talk) 19:33, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The Untouchables came out in 1987. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.122.216.158 (talk) 21:39, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Date of death 31 October 2020 Genevieve Wagener (talk) 13:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Not published in any reliable source. WWGB (talk) 13:49, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

• @WWGB: The New York Times are saying he died on the 31st -> The New York Times --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:02, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@WWGB and TDKR Chicago 101:The issue with the The New York Times is that their source goes back to BBC, which has removed the word "overnight". So this is currently an obsolete and possibly wrong information. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 15:08, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vincent Lefèvre: A lot of sources are going to be linked to the BBC because they were the first to break the story of his death. If we see a multitude of sources saying he died on the 31st then that should be our answer unless an agent/rep/family member says otherwise. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@TDKR Chicago 101: But my point is that the BBC has corrected their article from "overnight" to nothing, i.e. indeterminate date. So all the sources published before this change should be regarded as obsolete. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 15:16, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vincent Lefèvre: The NYT updates regularly when provided reliable information and it was last updated a minute-two minutes ago. They haven't even mentioned the BBC article. "...died on Saturday in Nassau, the Bahamas. He was 90. His death was confirmed by Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, on Twitter. “Our nation today mourns one of her best loved sons,” she wrote." --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@TDKR Chicago 101: Note that Nicola Sturgeon's tweet is directly based on the BBC article, as you can see. That's why I'm wondering. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 15:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vincent Lefèvre: I think that might be a stretch as I said all news reports will be linked to the BBC which is why Sturgeon's tweet was linked to it. However, the NYT (per the sentence I showed you) made no reference of 31st October being linked via BBC. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:27, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@TDKR Chicago 101: But it doesn't mention its sources (except the tweet based on the BBC article). A reliable article (like the BBC one) should always give its sources. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 15:37, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vincent Lefèvre:The BBC article still states "he died overnight in Nassau". Earthsound (talk) 16:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@Earthsound: OK, the BBC article has been edited several times. I confirm that "overnight" has been re-added. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

NBC News is also saying that he died on October 31st. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sean-connery-scottish-actor-who-served-tour-duty-james-bond-n922121 MikaelaArsenault (talk) 14:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

NBC News says "died Saturday, the official James Bond account on Twitter confirmed", but the official James Bond account on Twitter doesn't say which date! (Or the tweet has been removed.) — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 15:04, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The tweet from the official James Bond account on Twitter is still there. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Not available here. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Could it be that it’s not available in your country? MikaelaArsenault (talk) 17:55, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@MikaelaArsenault: Twitter has bugs, where existing tweets/accounts are not shown for some users (even from the same country), but are still visible via a direct link. So, never just say "on Twitter", but always provide an explicit URL. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 19:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Here is the tweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/007/status/1322524364655501314 MikaelaArsenault (talk) 19:38, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

@MikaelaArsenault: I know this tweet, but this one does not give the date. I repeat what I said above: NBC News says "died Saturday, the official James Bond account on Twitter confirmed", but the official James Bond account on Twitter doesn't say which date! (Or the tweet has been removed.) — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 19:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Sorry. It was decided that multiple strong sources are confirming today is the DOD. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 19:51, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Says who? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:04, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Rusted AutoParts. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 20:50, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, currently the most reliable information is "overnight" (the term used in the BBC article). So this is probably today (31 October), but this remains to be confirmed officially as in some past cases with "overnight" or equivalent, this was the day before. — Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 21:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

So he could’ve died on October 30 instead of October 31, but it hasn’t been officially confirmed yet. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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I know this is not a complete list of his films, but I always thing of him in Medicine Man. 174.89.127.209 (talk) 21:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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A television show in 1954 starred Barry Nelson [3]. Was it on film, or live only? AMCKen (talk) 00:22, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Context matters. "Film" in this instance doesn't mean celluloid, it means cinema. DonQuixote (talk) 03:15, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Television kinascope film, its on a DVD collectors version of the David Niven Casino Royal film, if you're up for a lark.Jennablurrs7575 (talk)

It is far too detailed and reads narratively, like one would expect in a biography. It needs a firm edit to get the anecdotes down to something that aligns with Wiki style (from what I know of it.) e.g. relating whose flat he was living in when he met Shelly Winters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeachMom90505 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

It is not long by Wikipedia standards.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

No sooner had I added the following than it was deleted by another contributor as "extraneous". I rather object and feel it is worthy of inclusion:

Connery was slated to star as sailor Sam Saltus, an aging white Bermudian and an undefeated

Aodhdubh (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who removed the text, but it seems like a lot of

Mere verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. And subjective language like "sadly fell through" is not appropriate for a neutral encyclopedia. --Animalparty! (talk

) 22:36, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Not to mention that it's very poorly organized and has multiple run-on sentences... 174.212.238.226 (talk) 06:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Try it out on a different page? You yourself use "tenuous" in connecting Connery and all this together; it feels almost like a six degrees of Bond game. One can see the work you've put in, but it doesn't mean it belongs on this page, but there are several other subjects mentioned within it you could check for inclusion (once you've cleaned up issues mentioned by other editor).Jennablurrs7575 (talk) 08:32, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Sean Connery has died on 31st October 2020 aged 90 Bigman1545 (talk) 12:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Just for future reference, the BBC obituary. JDAWiseman (talk) 17:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

To whoever has control of the editing, Australian comedy celebrity Paul Fenech also paid his respects.^[1] He played an enthnic spoof of James Bond in a few episodes of Fat Pizza. Can you add his name to the list of celebrities paying their respects? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8004:14A0:2F4B:54FB:285E:9385:467B (talk) 22:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

The caption for one of the photographs currently states that Connery is wearing the tartan of his mother's clan, MacLeod.

In fact, his mother was McLean, and accordingly, he was wearing the Maclean green hunting tartan.

The same photo appears on the Wikipedia page for Clan Maclean:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Maclean

See also: https://www.scottishroots.com/sean.php and other online sources.

This should be corrected.

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FYI: The first actor to play James Bond was an American actor named Barry Nelson. ```` 2606:A000:4B0E:1C00:85D7:65D6:6623:70FA (talk) 00:23, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a

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Thank you for your time and attention. EBinSanDiego (talk) 06:21, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

The "Death" section currently includes a list of actors who have paid tributes after the death of Connery. We don't usually include such info in bio articles and I don't really think Twitter tributes are especially notable. This should be removed (an apt inclusion would've been a state funeral/family comments (already there) but not this). Gotitbro (talk) 09:09, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I have restored the dates to DMY style as per the original version prior to his death. This is in accordance with the {{Use dmy dates}} template at the start of the article. This was changed by User:Tiki Doré earlier today. Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 16:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

This site is based in the USA, stop trying to spitefully force your European date format like it's YOUR site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naturalthing (talk • contribs) 09:55, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

See

WP:ENGVAR. DonQuixote (talk

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The article mentions that he was small at primary school and went through a growth spurt at around the age of 12. Did he go to separate primary and secondary schools? The BBC's obituary (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13087132) mentions that he left school at 13 and though I'm more familiar with the system in England/Wales than in Scotland my impression was that a lot of working class children at the time tended to go the same school from the start of their education till leaving school at 13 or 14. Llewee (talk) 17:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

In the picture of Sir Sean Connery at the Tartan Day celebration at Washington, DC, the tartan he is wearing was wrongly identified as a MacLeod tartan. This is incorrect. Connery is wearing a MacLean tartan. His mother was descended from the MacLeans, not MacLeods.Jamie1951 (talk) 23:06, 2 November 2020 (UTC) <http://macleanhistory.org/heraldry/tartans-of-the-clan-maclean/#:~:text=MacLean%20of%20Duart%20Hunting%20Tartan,worn%20for%20more%20casual%20occasions>

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The following clan reference should be changed from 'MacLeod' to 'MacLean': in 2000 he wore a green-and-black tartan kilt of his mother's MacLeod clan.

Sir Sean's maternal grandfather is Neil McLean (as cited in this Wikipedia article). Additionally, I have contacted the author of the cited Reuters article to inform him of this error (correction presumably pending).

If you visit the website of either House of Edgar (https://www.houseofedgar.com/find-your-clan-tartan/) or Lochcarron (https://www.lochcarron.co.uk/tartan-fabric/) -both reputable tartan manufacturers--and search for the MacLean tartan, you will see the MacLean Hunting tartan example matches that of which Sir Sean's kilt is made and worn during his knighting ceremony. Certainly not a MacLeod tartan.

Thank you! Woomerastars (talk) 04:06, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Much rubbish has been written about Sean Connery, some of it repeated here. What is especially annoying here is that the entry leads off by calling him Sir Thomas Sean Connery. That was never his name. He was born Thomas Connery - I know I have his birth certificate right here. Sean was not his middle name ever. By the time he was knighted he was Sean Connery. He was knighted as Sir Sean Connery, as your link to London Gazette clearly shows. The Wikipedia entry contains several other mistakes. I suggest one of your editors fact-check it against any of my various obituaries in The Scotsman, The Herald or most extensively the Mail on Sunday. Pheidippides7 (Brian Pendreigh). Pheidippides7 (talk) 14:22, 24 November 2020 (UTC) 24/11/20

The origin of the assertion that Sean was his middle name seems to be this sentence : "Connery said he was called Sean, his middle name, long before becoming an actor, explaining that when he was young he had an Irish friend named Séamus and that those who knew them had decided to call Connery by his middle name whenever both were present." This was added, completely unsourced, in 2005. Since it seems to contradict all other sourced evidence I am going to remove it and change the article to reflect the Who's Who entry. If anyone can produce a source which does not itself derive from Wikipedia we can reconsider. Ian Dalziel (talk) 12:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

He grew up at 176 Fountainbridge. The tenement has long been demolished. They put up a blue plaque near to his old home around the corner at Melvin Walk, EH3 9RU 81.141.33.92 (talk) 13:22, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

That's what he believed for a long part of his life at least. He later avoided such statements and said women shouldn't be hit. I think it was just damage control as he never offered himself for arrest for his wife's abuse and there seems no reason at all to doubt her. Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia and Connery's views on hitting women I think garnered enough media attention. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 00:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

No reason at all it should be in the lead. 109.147.115.92 (talk) 18:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. It would have to be much more important to deserve that. Compare that to Robert Downey Jr.'s drug abuse, which had a major effect on his career. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

If thinking hitting women isn't an issue and sign of wokeness, than that's your problem

User:Encyclopædius. Oppose if you want but do not insult me or my opinions. Treating beating women callously shows you are okay with it as well. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk

) 17:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Sean never even said anything about "callously beating women". He said that if he's having an argument with his wife and she's screaming hysterically and literally won't stop then he said he can justify giving her a slap as a last resort, but '"he wouldn't recommend it"'. The Left latched onto it and were calling him a woman beater on the day of his death. No, it's not right to hit a woman, it's not an excusable thing to say, but he is from a totally different world from today and what he said had absolutely no bearing on his career. (as did the drug addiction with Downey Jr.). If Sean had been banned for ten years from acting for saying it, then you could justify a mention.†

Encyclopædius

17:54, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

No. See

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20:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

That's not all he said or did Encyclopaedius. Did you forget that his own wife accused him of abusing her? By the way just search a video of hi talking about women. The first video of him you'll find is where he says, that women are pretty good at not leaving a thing alone. That's a stereotype of all women. He continues saying they want to have the last word and in such a situation "it's absolutely right". That's quite different from what you said isn't it? At most he masked it, that he was a supporter pof hitting women and sexist. Not much different than conservatives who promote sexism, outdated gender roles and overall bigotry around the world. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 04:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

His other wife for a much longer period though said the opposite and he couldn't have been more of a gentleman.†

Well, it's not right to hit anyone. If you say that it's not right to hit a woman, you are sexist.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

It's not about the ethics of whether it's right to hit a woman or anybody, it's about whether it is notable enough to mention in the lead and it is as Lugnuts says.†

It is for you. That's why you came to defend Sean Connery instead of simply saying politely why it shouldn't be here, started attacking me, the left and whatnot. If you do that, I'm not going to be polite either. Besides a lot of women don't report abuse often which is why it goes underreported. I'm sure you aren't unaware of that. Happened in my own family, it was quite liberal but my father could easily get angry. My mother wouldn't destroy the marriage just over being beaten up a few times. That happens in a lot of houses around the world and I'm sure you're aware. Think on that before you try to distract again with excuses like "his other wife said". LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 13:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

So what you're saying is that because you came from a home wth an abusive father you feel it's your duty to root out Connery for abuse to women and make a big thing of it in the lede?†

Did I say that though? You're saying that in order to defend Connery. I don't get hung up over few beatings, in fact my father beat me too at times. No big deal. I'm just highlighting Conner's own words which have been highlighted in the media. What other excuse you want to waste time on instead of actually discussing anything about the topic? LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 05:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

A rather minor point, but the article opens with a photo of Connery from 2008. This made sense while he was alive, but I think it'd be a better idea now to have a photo circa 1960-1990, as opposed to a photo taken after having retired from acting. And yes, I know copyright is an issue. --Ismail (talk) 10:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

How about Sean Connery 1964.png? It was taken in 1964 and is a pretty good image. The Image Editor (talk) 21:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I think that image is quite a good depiction of bond era Connery which is probably what people will most associate him with in years to come. I will change it momentarily. Llewee (talk) 23:04, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Is that image really copyright free, the PD-notice on Commons says that it is for works published with no copyright notices before 1977. But the film from which is taken, Marnie (1964), was most likely published with the copyright of Universal. Gotitbro (talk) 11:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Seems so given the trailer from which the file was extracted would have been released without a copyright notice. Alex (talk) 09:00, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

This image (to the right) is positioned next to its relevant text (Hitchcock’s 1964 film, Marnie). The image in the article (from the 1980s) three editors approved of. The 2008 image is also next to the appropriate text. Sel Conwall (talk) 20:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I added a section about his coat of arms which was removed by another user because they thought that social media was not a good enough source. I would argue that the official Facebook page of the Court of the Lord Lyon (the Scottish heraldic authority) is a perfectly reputable source especially since Connery's coat of arms was granted by the Lord Lyon. I think details about his coat of arms should be present because it's not only an interesting detail about him, but it also shows how he was honoured by the Crown and the high regard that the Lord Lyon held him in by granting him heraldic supporters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ff462 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

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Sean Connery was NOT the first actor to play Bond on film. Sean Connery is usually called the original James Bond. But Barry Nelson actually played 007 some eight years before 1962's Dr. No hit the big screen, starring in an hour-long episode of the live American teleplay series Climax!

Read More: Sean Connery Was Not the First Actor to Play James Bond 2600:8804:4100:79:14A8:121C:F25E:FDD4 (talk) 04:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I'll answer this below as it's the same request. Volteer1 (talk) 06:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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Sorry, to be clear, change the content about Sean being the first actor to play Bond on film by *removing* that section, and leaving the remaining phrase about him Playing 007 (x) times intact.

hope that helps. 2600:8804:4100:79:14A8:121C:F25E:FDD4 (talk) 04:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Barry Nelson was the first to portray Bond on screen, but it was in an episode of the television show Climax, see Casino Royale (Climax!). Connery however was the first person to portray him on film, in Dr. No (film). Something could maybe be written to clarify that (feel free to re-open this request if you have a suggestion), but it is actually correct as it's written (and notable) so it shouldn't be removed. Volteer1 (talk) 06:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Barry Nelson was actually the very first James Bond several years before Mr Connery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.241.127.150 (talk) 10:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

See directly above, Connery was the first person to portray Bond him on film. Volteer1 (talk) 10:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

The caption under one of the photos reads as follows: "Connery at a Tartan Day celebration in Washington, D.C. When knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 2000 he wore a green-and-black tartan kilt of his mother's MacLeod clan." Sean Connery's mother's maiden name was McLean (please note spelling), please see the first paragraph under "Early Life"; hence, she was a member of the Clan Maclean (the official spelling of the Clan, one of the many ways of spelling the name), she was NOT a member of the MacLeod Clan. The green-and-black tartan kilt which Sean is wearing in the photo is one of the 2 tartans of the Clan Maclean, known as the "Hunting Tartan." He is NOT wearing a MacLeod tartan kilt. If you Google the tartans of the Clan Maclean and the tartans of the Clan MacLeod, you will easily be able to verify this. The caption under the photo needs to be corrected to reflect the fact that Sean is wearing the green-and-black tartan kilt of his mother's Maclean Clan (not the MacLeod Clan).

So, where is the Filmography? When it is added, please ensure it includes the film Zardoz. 74.205.219.210 (talk) 04:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

It is hidden at

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Missing film 10/06/1988 · Directed by Peter Hyams. With Sean Connery, Mark Harmon, Meg Ryan, Jack Warden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:46C5:1100:E54F:DEEA:F775:5AD0 (talk) 08:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Is the quantity of named descendants from both sides of his family and their places of birth entirely necessary? MattSucci (talk) 06:22, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Why isn't there one? For starters, Connery's Personal life section is quite bloated and could be thinned out by moving existing references to his views and abuse to their own section. Further, said section could then be appropriately expanded. Like it or not, this is an important part of his legacy and is not being afforded due emphasis at present.Vegan4Life (talk) 06:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

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Sean Connery was NOT the first James Bond First was David Niven in the Original Casino Royalm then George Lazenby THEN Sean Connery 2601:601:4700:9260:45F2:93F9:6491:98BD (talk) 04:37, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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In the intro, please add “and bodybuilder” as he was a bodybuilder prior to becoming and actor.2600:1700:551:EED0:F840:1B44:D162:F96C (talk) 08:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. That is not what he's notable for. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:18, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

it's 2021, not 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toomanytribbles (talk • contribs) 11:30, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Please

reliable source verifying that. DonQuixote (talk

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Change Connery was married to Moroccan-French painter Micheline Roquebrune (born 1929) from 1975 until his death

To Connery was married to Moroccan-French painter Micheline Roquebrune (born 1929) from 1975 until her death 86.132.9.143 (talk) 22:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

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 Not done Roquebrune is still alive.

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Please change: "He also appeared in A Bridge Too Far (1977), Highlander (1986), The Name of the Rose (1986), The Untouchables (1987), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), The Hunt for Red October (1990), Dragonheart (1996), The Rock (1996), and Finding Forrester (2000)."

To: "He also appeared in A Bridge Too Far (1977), Highlander (1986), The Name of the Rose (1986), The Untouchables (1987), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), The Hunt for Red October (1990), Dragonheart (1996), The Rock (1996), Finding Forrester (2000), and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)." Floatingpenguin (talk) 00:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. There's already enough movies listed there. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Under section “Death” remove “with dementia as an underlying cause,” as it is not founded in the cited source nor the death certificate scan obtained by TMZ. Also the previous sentence provides enough verification of his condition at the time of death. 2601:19B:B80:E810:583B:45F5:55B2:3026 (talk) 00:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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Albert R Broccoli Harry Saltzman og Ian Flemings Bond movies actor CARY GRANT Sir Roger Moore and David Niven IAN FLEMING HATE SEAN CONNERYS BOND MOVIES ACTOR. NOT Connery himself. EON PRODUCTIONS JAMES BOND MOVIES ACTOR FIRST BOND MOVIES ACTOR GUNBARRIEL SEQUENCE BOB SIMMONS STUNTMAN ACTOR SEQUENCES BY BOB SIMMONS GOLDFINGER MOVIE 91.90.64.47 (talk) 15:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

James Bonds identity comes from Fleming and Fleming's father was a Scot.RichardBond (talk) 06:53, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

You need to

stating that. DonQuixote (talk

) 12:10, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

The source clearly says that Sean alliterates with Seamas. The article's use of "assonance" is wrong.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC) See the source: [4].--Jack Upland (talk) 08:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

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I think it is quite important to add a Filmography graph and section above or below his Death and Legacy section, whichever is standard. Also acceptable would be a hyperlink to a separate page containing his filmography, as some of the larger actor's pages do when they have a substantial amount of work to cover. It is common to look on Wikipedia to see what movie's a certain actor has starred in, and Sean Connery's page is missing this honestly basic and standard inclusion. Allen10403 (talk) 21:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Sean Connery filmography is the first link in the Career section. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:58, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

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Sean Connery won an Academy Award fir best supporting actor in 1987 for Untouchables. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:805:8100:14A0:8C26:D44A:322C:F2B7 (talk) 20:46, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

This is listed under "Awards and Honours".--Jack Upland (talk) 01:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)