User:KewlPix/Archive 1

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Regarding your edits to Doctor Who:

Your recent edit to

Geocities, Myspace, Facebook, blog, forum, or other such free-hosting website links to a non-talk page. Please note that such links are generally to be avoided. You can restore any other content by editing the page and re-adding that content. The links can be reviewed and restored by established users. Thank you for contributing! // VoABot II
00:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, KewlPix, and

welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions
. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! ·:· Will Beback ·:· 03:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Your name isn't part of an IP address. Secretlondon 00:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I've removed you, but you could have removed yourself. Secretlondon 04:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you,

Thank you for checking over my spelling on my User page. I have to admit I am not the best speller out there and I thank you for looking over it for me. An

(talk)(contribs)
04:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion

Please

here is a real link that discusses the topic in more detail. Thanks. --Russ (talk)
14:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Dad's Army

I have added Internal Links to this article. Kathleen.wright5 14:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

You can over-do the links. A lot of the links you made don't link to anything. Do you plan to write articles for them all, or do you think anyone else will. Some of them, like the link to Walker have nothing to do with Private Walker -- SteveCrook 14:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
And I agree entirely with --Russ and -- SteveCrook as I've just spent half an hour removing or redirecting your wikilinks in just one section of this article which went to disambiguation pages or the wrong place! Curb your enthusiasm please and TRY wikilinks once you have created them to see where they lead..... Zir 15:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Internal Links Removed

I have removed most of the Internal Links at "Lost in Space". Kathleen.wright5 10:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you - whilst I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, might I suggest that after a good start you've been going a bit OTT recently. If you revisit some of the pages in your contributions where you have "Added Internal Links" and take a look at the Discussion page you'll find comments under the one that you left (and not just my comments).
In particular take a look at your recent edits to The Salvation Army which hasn't been reverted (yet) - at one point under The Flag, for instance, it says "The red on the flag symbolizes the blood shed by Christ". ← Try these links - it's pure comedy - but not meant to be.
Can't stress enough that you don't over-link and thoroughly TEST any wikilinks that you do create. Your last edits
ABC Television (Australia)
where they are meant to.
Best of luck & tread carefully as some people can be very proprietorial about articles..... Zir 12:13, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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Esanda

Is this what you're looking for?

Esanda Finance Corporation Ltd

A previous article,

WP:CORP
. Try to find articles about the company and ways in which it has been recognized by 3rd-parties.

The other articles you're looking for are:

Cheers, ·:· Will Beback ·:· 09:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

State leaders by year

Would you please explain what you are doing to the

wikilinks to articles for each individual year individual are being incorrectly removed. This article is actually an index to all of the detailed articles, arranged by year. If you need help with this, please let me know by responding here. This talk page is on my watchlist so I will see when you make a response. Thanks. Truthanado
02:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I see you are trying to remove red links. Although it is normally a good idea to do that, in this article, the red links are okay. Eventually, someone will create articles for the red-link years. Apologizing for the time you have spent on this, I suggest you revert the article to the version before you started your edits today. If you need help doing that, let me know. Truthanado 02:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Please stop trying to remove the red links in this article. All of the effort you are spending will probably be reverted. In this article, it is OKAY to have red links because there will eventually be articles written to correctly
wikilink to. Truthanado
02:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Let me help with the revert you've started. You don't need to undo each one individually. I'll do it for you and then explain, okay? Truthanado 02:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
The article has been reverted to just before you started your edits today. Here is what I did; this works for any article. Open the history page and click on the article you want to revert to. In this case, that is:
(cur) (last) 01:51, 21 July 2007 Singularity (Talk | contribs) (220,066 bytes) (afd closed, keep) (undo)
When that version of the article opens, click edit this page, enter the reason for the revert in the Edit summary and click Save page. Presto. Article is reverted. Undo works best for reverting just 1 edit. BTW, I notice from your user page that you are in Australia. A nice country, I've been there a few times on business, Brisbane and Perth. Cheers. Truthanado 02:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Could you tell me where I can find the "REDLINKS to be removed department"? I don't think this article should be included. I suspect it may have been included by a BOT who just blindly looks for red links. Truthanado 02:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
As I suspected, Wikipedia:WikiProject Red Link Recovery/Most red links#Overview shows that this list is automatically generated (meaning a human doesn't do it or peruse the results). Note the second paragraph, which describes the situation for this article:
"While it is perfectly valid to have a red link to a topic that will one day have an encyclopaedic article of its own, some articles may contain red links to topics that never will (or should!) exist. If any of the articles below do this, correct them then remove from the list."
The Wikipedia community appreciates your work to reduce the number of red links in articles. Unfortunately, this article is one that doesn't need to be fixed. There are many others ... happy hunting. Truthanado 03:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Please Extend Article

Hmm, Well I'll try my best, I'm not farmiliar with that though but I wouldn't mind doing a bit of research. If it does get deleted though I'll save a copy of it as a sub off my userpage. I'll add a link here under this when I finally add it and please feel free to add to it. An
(talk)(contribs)
00:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Added Esanda History Website

So far I am writing up a short thing using my own words but I think it might be a good idea maybe even to talk to the PR officer of the company even if just sending an email. I've found no other websites so far but I'll keep on looking. An

(talk)(contribs)
00:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Where to find Contents Template?

Well, It's automatically added when you have four or more headlines I believe. An

(talk)(contribs)
01:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Radio Stations

Hi Kathleen

I notice that you are adding categories to radio stations. This is unnecessary as the articles are already in narrower categories. You may find that other editors may remove this category later, I won't bother myself! Graeme Bartlett 23:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

And some might get concerned that there are more templates than info in some stubs! - cheers
Suro
14:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Agreed.. Muzzamo 23:47, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

ICU and green cross

I though about it, Kathleen, and it would have taken me about 60 seconds to change the original. But I decided to go with something a little more distinctive. Besides, a green cross probably violates some other UN resolution or something. Plus I'm a M*A*S*H fan. :-) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 06:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Local Radio articles

I switched them back because the main ABC template was just meant to be related to the divisions and those kind of things. I did, however, add a 'See Also' section to the existing template with links to other relevant articles.

timgraham
00:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC) 11:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

AYBS?

You might like mine better. ;) -- ALLSTAR ECHO 16:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

{{:User:Allstarecho/AreYouBeingServed}}

Clock

Not sure what you mean about the clock incident? I'm assuming you tried to use the clock on my page? It's free, it just has to be userfied. Go to User:Allstarecho/Clock, click edit this page, copy all of the code there, go to User:Kathleen.wright5/Clock and create the page, paste the code, change anywhere you see my user name to your own user name, then anywhere you see +5 hours you'll need to change to match your time. I don't know the time offset of exactly where you are but I think it's +10 hours from GMT. You'll have to fiddle with that. Once your all done, place it anywhere you want it on your user page and/or talk page with {{User:Kathleen.wright5/Clock}} :) -- ALLSTAR ECHO 15:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Using the "Show preview" button

Hi, Can I suggest that you use the "show preview" button before making a series of changes? It is much easier to look at the revision history for an article. A good example of where you have not done this would be your edits to the article

Life FM (Adelaide)
. Muzzamo 23:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Kathleen, I noticed that you have done this again in the article Cruise_1323. Could you please take more care? Muzzamo 06:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

UNno!

Howzit Kathleen, I was wondering around and stumbled on your user page. I was interested to see a button saying that you favour the abolition of the United Nations, and was just curious to know why. (If you feel like telling me you can do it by clicking on my name, and adding a section on my discussion page, as I have done to your page.) Adam Brink 13:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

No no no! Don't remove it on my account! I am not an administrator, and will never be one as I (1) don't have the time; (2) am happy to let other people do it. Even if was I would not be able to remove anything from your user page, and anyway: you have a right to free expression, and should exercise it how you please. I was telling the truth when I said that I was simply curious. You have many buttons reflecting views that I am sympathetic to and simply wondered what the UN one was all about. I've never really thought about its role in the WMD thing was. As I recall though, Hans Blix was UN appointed; and the whole reason why there is a 'Coalition of the Willing' (*sigh*, who came up with that name?) was because the UN had _not_ allowed itself to be bullied by the US. But perhaps you are right, and I don't suggest we should arm wrestle about it. I will say though that in my part of the world (Sub-Saharn Africa) the UN does phenomenal work through the WHO, ILO and the UNHCR. I realise they could do better in geo-political matters, but I don't think they don't try - the US is just too powerful. Adam Brink 15:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks

for teaching me a new stub type. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Me neither, but it's one more option. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Banksia Park

Problem was a reference without a close /ref tag (may have originally been my fault, I didn't bother to check the history). Seems to be fixed now. Orderinchaos 04:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

page-blanking

I don't quite follow the thinking behind this edit. If a redirect target is wrong, then by all means point it to a more appropriate page, or replace it with more appropriate content (for example, a disambiguation page). If it's completely inappropriate for it to exist at all, list it at

WP:RFD. Just blanking it isn't a good option, as it retains the page, and it then ends up cluttering up special:uncategorizedpages, and the like. Hope that's of some help. Alai
17:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject BBC

Comment
Comment
You have been placed on the Inactive members list. If you would like to continue contributing to the project, please move your name back onto the active members list here. Thank You, Tiddly-Tom 17:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Loire Valley

Kathleen.wright5 wrote:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been
welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.|Article Loire Valley Kathleen.wright5
13:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your warm welcome, but I think you mixed up with someone else. Croquant 19:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject BBC Stubs

Hopefully I have done what you wanted, you can see it by clicking the link above. Tiddly-Tom 08:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, no problem. Come back and speak to me if I can help you with anything else, Tiddly-Tom 08:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

ICU deleted articles

Just remove them from the main page, I suppose. I don't think there's any need to build a sort of Wiki-graveyard. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

regarding your geo-coordinates tags

Thank you for tagging the articles. I hope that you will continue to do so, because it makes it easier for me to add coordinates if I know what articles are missing. Thanks again! Sseballos 19:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

When specifying a value for the "date" parameter in a maintenance tag (such as {{locateme}}), please remember to specify the month and the year, to ensure that pages are placed into the proper categories. Thanks, Black Falcon (Talk) 04:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates with red links

Hey! Just wanted to say that I'm pleased as punch to see you're doing some work on this. I started this project years ago, and kind of lost sight of it. But I think it's a good and important thing to keep track of templates with red links for many reasons (not the least of which is avoiding junk!) I'd like to see the project rebooted from the most recent database dump. What do you think? Cheers! bd2412 T 10:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I have asked Beland (the techie who set it up in the first place) to reboot. So, hopefully there will soon be a brand new and up to date list of templates with redlinks to work from. I will offer you whatever guidance I can from my previous experience working on this project. Cheers again! bd2412 T 08:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Wikipedia:Templates with red links is officially up and running anew - check out the seventy-seven pages of templates with redlinks generated in the most recent database dump! You are now (as of this moment) officially in charge of this project. Congratulations, and cheers! bd2412 T 04:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Prophets

Please don't add to the P's in C category people who are already in the sub-cat Category:Prophets of the Hebrew Bible. Thank you. Johnbod (talk) 08:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I came here to say the same thing.
WP:SUBCAT
: "In straightforward cases an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory."
The main point of the Hebrew Bible categories is to avoid unnecessary duplication of categories for subjects that are relevant to both Judaism and Christianity. I hope this is helpful. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, many thanks for that. I'm not sure how reliable that 2nd group are - it has
Nebuchadrezzar II but what about all his dinner-guests? Johnbod (talk
) 21:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Agur

An atheist guy as a prophet of Christianity... hmmm...

I added a citation needed tag in the list. As in "sez who?". elpincha (talk) 03:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject BBC

Hey :) I notice you have been adding the banner to some of the talk pages of articles currently not covered by the project, Thank you! If you like, feel free to also assess them when adding them to the talk pages. It does not take long to get the idea of the assessment system. Doing the assessment at the same time as tagging takes a lot less time than tagging the page, and then someone else assessing them. If you don't want to, you don't have to, just an idea for if you had not thought about it. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Thanks again, Tiddly-Tom 18:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

The |importance= parameter still remains. Also, for people to assess articles they will look here. How are they to know, without looking through all the articles which need to be assessed and which don't? I am not saying you have to, but just explaining the consequences fully for other editors. Tiddly-Tom 07:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Australia newsletter

talk
), at 21:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC).

Bhavabhushan Mitra

Hi Kathleen, lovely to hear from you. I'd say it can be discharged from ICU. I wouldn't take all the tags off though. It has many references now but could do with more. We could keep on the tag for an expert too. And the merger could be done. A good example of improvement through co-operation I'd say. ICU can move on to the more difficult cases. All the best. Itsmejudith (talk) 11:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll help you on that article. But we have a more general problem that the initial enthusiasm for the ICU seems to have waned. Either the original members have to start paying attention again or we have to get some new members. How about if you and I jointly write a message to all the members gently chivvying them up? Itsmejudith (talk) 08:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Specifically in regard to Esanda, I don't think it meets the notability criteria. I can't find any non-trivial external references to it. It gets 815 google hits but most are listings in business directories. Can we agree to tag it for merge with its parent company? Itsmejudith (talk) 09:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
How about a joky message "Calling all clinicians! Can you help clear the Intensive Care Unit backlog? Some patients are lingering in the unit and the beds are needed for new urgent cases. Please come and use your bold editing skills." And we would also add a message to the ICU talk page explaining that we felt that a backlog was developing and that was why we needed to send the message. What do you think? Itsmejudith (talk) 09:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you've been busy adding {{

WikiProjectBannerShell}} to collapse the banners, we have a ridiculous situation where many articles now have more adopters than sections in the articles. Cheers Kbthompson (talk
) 11:48, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, much appreciated ... hopefully the next round - architects, I reckon - will have the good grace to use the BannerShell, and not just 'bot' the lot ... cheers, and good luck with your corner of wiki. Kbthompson (talk) 23:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 Merry Christmas, KewlPix/Archive 1! Wishing you a very Merry Christmas!

Best regards from myself! -- S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s (Merry Christmas!)
Post this merry message on any other user talk page you can find.

WikiProject Australia newsletter

This newsletter is a monthly newsletter with details relating to events and happenings within the
talk
), at 21:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC).

GREETINGS

WISH YOU A HAPPY AND ACTIVE NEW YEAR.--BobClive (talk) 07:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

What a coincidence, 26 January! Thanks for the information.--BobClive (talk) 16:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for comment on Category Redirect template

Because you are a member of WikiProject Categories, your input is invited on some proposed changes to the design of the {{Category redirect}} template. Please feel free to view the proposals and comment on the template talk page. --Russ (talk) 21:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Template:National Sportsperson of the Year

The Union Flag is not the flag of Northern Ireland. regards --Vintagekits (talk) 22:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:Christianity notice

I will join, but I'm afraid I can't join the other wikias. I am still in school, and have limits to my computer time with homework and all. I can join Wikiproject Christianitythough. Thanks! SpencerT♦C 01:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Adelaide Wikimeetup 3

Riverside Precinct Adelaide Meetup
Next: TBA
Last: 6 March 2020
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Hi Kathleen - we're planning a third meetup in Adelaide sometime in the coming weeks, and would love to have you there. If you can, please help decide a location, a date and a time here. Thanks! ~ Riana ⁂ 12:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Link

Fixed. You needed to link [[Cameron "Buck" Williams]]. SpencerT♦C 11:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Stub categories

Hi there, and thanks for tackling the stub categories. If you need guidance on how to format them (or templates), take a look at the main stub page or ask on the talk page (where you were before). Welcome to it - Cheers! Her Pegship (tis herself) 00:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem - I'll take a look tomorrow (I'm in California). Usually the template is created first, then the category; more on that later. G'night! Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Context MBA and the Macintosh?

Hi Kathleen, I can't find any evidence that Context MBA was ever available for the Mac, just for the pre-Mac Apple III. Should this be reverted, or alternatively, do you have anything that can be added to the article that discusses this?--NapoliRoma (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It has now been reverted. Kathleen.wright5 21:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!--NapoliRoma (talk) 01:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

A quick lesson on stubs

...if you don't mind... After a stub type is approved, the template is created. Here's the typical code to use:

<div class="boilerplate" id="stub">''This article related to [[<topic>]] is a [[Wikipedia:Stub|stub]]. You can help Wikipedia by {{plainlink|url={{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it}}''.</div>[[Category:<Topic> stubs<noinclude>| </noinclude>]]

Once the template has been created, click on its category. It should be a red link at the moment and you'll get a "create this category" page. There you can use this code:

{{WPSS-cat}}{{popstub}} {{Stub Category|article=[[<topic>]]s|newstub=<stub template code>|category=<parent category>}} [[Category:<parent category again>|μ]]

You just fill in the topic in the template, the same topic in the category page, the stub template code in the category page, and the parent category in the category page. (For example, the parent of "Book stubs" would be the category "Books".) I hope this isn't too confusing. You can take a look at the two categories you created earlier if you want to see more; I have cleaned up the code a bit. Cheers! Her Pegship (tis herself) 17:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Cite your sources

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources, as you did to Virgo (astrology). Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add your reference to the article. Contact me if you need assistance adding references. Thank you. These articles are enough of a mess without established editors adding unreferenced qualities. Pairadox (talk) 00:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, and the same is applicable to all of the astrology articles (I just didn't want to give you twelve different warnings). Each instance needs to be sourced directly to a reliable, off-wiki source - Wikipedia can't use itself as a source. Pairadox (talk) 01:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
So are you going to provide sources or am I going to remove your additions? Pairadox (talk) 20:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you can remove the additions, but Virgo I added to someone else's work. Taurus and Sagittarius I did myself and Scorpio, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pices were done by other editors, which is why I thought it was OK to use the medical astrology link. Kathleen.wright5 21:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Understood. I really have no opinion on the info itself, I just want to make sure that it's tied to a third party source. Pairadox (talk) 22:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Red Dwarf peer review

I was wondering if you could take some time out of your schedule to head over to the Red Dwarf talkpage and give us an honest peer review. The page has gone through some major changes in the last few months, and it would be fantastic if a prominent editor/contributor like yourself, could head over and give us at the Red Dwarf Wikiproject some sound opinion and ideas on improvements for the page. We have all worked very hard at improving the page, and we need great outside, reliable and trustworthy users to come over and help us improve. If you are interested in joining the peer review discussion with other prominent users/contributors, much like yourself, please follow the link. Thank you very much for your help and your continued effort to improve Wikipedia and its quality! Wikipedia:Peer review/Red Dwarf --Nreive (talk) 11:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Adelaide Wikimeetup 3

Riverside Precinct Adelaide Meetup
Next: TBA
Last: 6 March 2020
This box: view • talk • edit

Hi Kathleen.wright5 - after some planning we've decided to hold the third Adelaide Wikimeetup on Sunday, 17th February, 2008. The meeting will be held at Billy Baxter's in Rundle Mall at 11:30AM. Further details and directions are available on the meetup page. Please RSVP here by 20:00UTC on 15th February 2008 (that's 6AM Saturday for our time zone) so that we can inform the restaurant about numbers. Hope to see you there!

You are receiving this message because you are in

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On behalf of Riana ⁂, 11:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Template time

The time I have was borrowed from someone else's userpage. I did some digging, and found the following test that will help. {{subst:currenttime|place=Adelaide}} gives you

:The current date and time in Adelaide is Wednesday 1 May, 00:27.[1]

.

SpencerT♦C 01:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought you just add the above. Otherwise, I really don't know. :(. SpencerT♦C 03:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Question about Importance ratings

Hi Kathleen,

I'm TrickyApron, and I recently went through a bunch of WikiProject Christianity articles on films and removed their Importance=top ratings in accordance with the guidelines on Assessment. There, the criteria for assessing articles as Top Importance is that "The article is one of the core topics about Christianity. Generally, this is limited to those articles that are are included as sections of the main Christianity article." I see that you've changed many of them back to Top Importance - perhaps Mid Importance would be better? I'll wait a few days to hear from you before I revert the changes.

Peace, TrickyApron (talk) 04:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Responding to "How to create ICU page when template has been deleted?" on my talk page

Hi,

If further discussion is needed, let's please keep it here rather than ping-ponging between your talk page and mine.

You asked: "How do I create an ICU page as outlined in - To admit an article to ICU, when the template - Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit/Article name, has been deleted? I want to formally admit 2 articles in Category:Articles placed in the Wikipedia Intensive Care Unit, Allen Joines and Senang Hati Foundation"

What I did was, working from the instructions in

redlink Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit/Article name
, and then change Article name to the actual name of the article which I wanted to admit (e.g., Allen Joines). Having done that, the rest of the admission process went smoothly, if a bit tediously. Does that help? If not, I'll try to help more.

If you can improve the admission process instructions, feel free to do so.

Cheers, -- Boracay Bill (talk) 13:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Microsoft Windows and software articles

Hi, please don't tag articles that are not about Microsoft Windows with {{WikiProject Microsoft Windows}}. This Wikiproject is solely for articles about the operating system itself. A similar policy applies to other Wikiprojects about other operating systems. Thanks. -/- Warren 22:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

The Invisible Barnstar

The Invisible Barnstar
I award you with this barnstar for your continuous good work in keeping Wikipedia up-to-date and for your efforts in the article's improving. Keep working! ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 00:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Fiador (tack)

Hello!

I would use a {{horse-stub}} tag and just make it a general horse stub. I don't see a more specific stub category for horse tack, and there seem to be some other horse tack articles (such as Aurigan) in there.

Hope this helps! — KathrynLybarger (talk) 18:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedia Australia incorporation meeting

Hi there KewlPix! As you may know, the Wikimedia Foundation has recently approved Wikimedia Australia as an official chapter. In order to acknowledge this, and to appoint an interim committee, approve our statement of purpose and our rules, and appoint a Public Officer, Wikimedia Australia will be having a meeting at Computerbank in Melbourne. For those of us who are located in other cities, we shall be holding conference calls to the main meeting.

The meeting will be held at 2:30PM on Sunday, 20th April 2008, Adelaide time. In order for us to organise this meeting, we need your help! Please drop by at our meta subpage with suggestions as to venues, conference calling services, etc. It will be at 2:30 so we can meet up for lunch beforehand if anyone's open for that!

Hoping to see you there! ~ Riana ⁂ 01:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

You are receiving this message because you are an active Wikimedian in Adelaide and are on this list. If you think I've missed anyone out, please feel free to copy-paste this and send it to them too!

Blanking of articles

Please stop blanking articles. Blanking of articles is (almost) never the proper way to handle bad content on the project. And already tagged copyvios do not fit the "almost". All of your blankings are now showing up on reports of blank pages, mixed in with vandalism blankings. I'm going to revert the blankings to their copyvio tagged state so that they can be properly handled, and not bloat up the reports. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Let me stress that I too have full assumptions that this all happened in a good faith effort to do right by the project. I used admin roll-back on some of them because of the sheer number that needed to be reverted. Admin rollback is normally supposed to be used for reverting vandalism. I want to stress that my use in this case was not in any way intended to show or imply that I thought that these edits were vandalism. As for what next, I'll let you deal with Moonriddengirl on that. She sounds to be much more an expert on handling copyvios than I am. For myself, I'm a short pages patroller, and it was on the short pages reports that I found all these blankings. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

BCC Research

Thanks very much for the help! I think I just needed to be more patient initially and wait for the community to recognize the validity of the company. Stuartfost (talk) 23:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Eventually, I would like to move this sub page to the main site, and you have greatly aided my cause thank you Stuartfost (talk) 23:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Article has been deleted.

Wikipedia:Templates with red links reorganized

Hey, just wanted to let you know I got Wikipedia:Templates with red links rebooted and all set up to work on again, if you'd like to help out with it (or run it). Cheers! bd2412 T 09:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

List of minor Biblical figures

Hey, I noticed you're interested in Bible topics, so I thought you might want to work on

this one. Cheers! bd2412 T
06:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Doctor Who newsletter, March 2008

The Space-Time Telegraph
The
WikiProject Doctor Who
newsletter
Issue 1 March 2008
Project News
We have five new participants:
Sm9800, Seanor3, T saston, Type 40, Jammy0002
.
One editor has left the project:
StuartDD
.
The Doctor Who portal has expanded to increase the number of selected stories to 33.
Articles of note
New featured articles
None
New featured article candidates
New good articles
Delisted articles
None
Proposals
A proposal for changing the layout of the episode pages is under way
here
.
A discussion about the formatting of the cast lists in episode pages is under way here.
A discussion to move
here
.
News
The
Torchwood project
has become a task-force under the project's scope.
The
4th series of Doctor Who
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) 00:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Awesome edits

Just wanted to comment on the addition of stubs to the radio stations. Hopefully that should spark some expanding of them. Keep watching my edits, I'll keep creating radio stations and more than likely some of them will be religious. Thanks a lot! Milonica (talk) 18:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for expansion of the categorisation of religious programmes

Dear Kathleen, thank you for expanding the category of "Religious programmes".It is good of you to do this, and to leave a note on my talk-page. I was also pleased to see that you had included an Australian programme, which will prevent the programme from having too biassed a coverage (being based in the United Kingdom, I know mainly about British programmes).You might be interested to know that at WP: Council, quite lively discussion is going on about whether we should have a project group for religious programmes. I was interested to see that you belong to something called "WikiChristianity". I did not know of this.I have heard of Conservapedia, but I take it that this will not be so heavily orientated to ultra-conservatism as Conservapedia (I have not read Conservapedia all that often myself. Thank you again for the message. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Redundancy

The aforementioned category is redundant, as it already covers the same topics already covered in Category:Religious television series and a new category, Category:Religious radio programs, as well as more-specific subcategories within. Please be more careful making categories in the future, and double check to see if similar categories exist. -- azumanga (talk) 03:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit to User:John Carter's user page

Hey, I noticed you recently removed a redlink to a deleted article from

talk • contribs
) 17:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Many thanks for reclassifying the contents of the category I created "Religious programmes". At the time of creating it, I did not know of the similar categories, and I agree that it is rather superfluous to multiply categories here. Although I tend toinclusionism rather than deletionism, I think the "Religious programmes" category could be deleted now. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Mom jeans

I rescued it. What I did was to type in Mom jeans and press go, which took me to Saturday Night Live but at the top was a little note saying I had been redirected from Mom jeans, which was linked. I was then able to access the page history and took the page back to a previous version. However, the redirect was a good faith edit. If there is not much more to say about this term then maybe it should be merged with SNL. The correct way to do this would be to tag it for merge and invite discussion. Best wishes. Itsmejudith (talk) 08:43, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Updated:Redirects at User:Grutness/Stub discoveries to vet

Hi Kathleen - you wrote: I've updated your Redirects list on the above page. Every strikethru or removal has been explained.

To be honest, I wish you hadn't, though I realise your intentions were good. As it says at the top of the page, "If you take any of the other stubs to either WSS/D or SFD, score through it on the list using <s> and </s>"" - a lot of those you scored through haven't been near either the discovery page or SFD, so shouldn't have been scored through ({{
cook-tool-stub}} is one that immediately springs to mind that hasn't been to either) - I still need to go through them and see whether any of them are possible sfd candidates (again, cook-tool-stub is one possibility). I'm going to un-score the lot for now and check through them when I get the chance to see which ones still need to be looked at. Grutness...wha?
06:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

NZ stubs

Hi Kathleen! What that means is that the template {{NewZealand-poli-stub}} is upmerged; since it doesn't yet have 60+ articles, it temporarily deposits the article in both Category:New Zealand stubs and Category:Politics stubs. Once it has enough articles, its separate category (presumably Category:New Zealand electorate stubs) will be created. HTH, Her Pegship (tis herself) 16:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Re Cat:India geography stubs

Hi Kathleen - you wrote: I've de-redlinked and cleaned up a section of the Agartala article on the above page. I know it's not a stub anymore, but it looks so much better now. Would it be OK to do the rest of the articles on the above page?

I'd forgotten I put that there - that was a long time ago! Yes, sure - feel free to remove any that look like they're now written in proper English. It's worth noting that the list is very old - there are a lot of newer articles that are just as bad as those original ones were. I'm not sure why, but it seems to be a problem that is worse with subcontinental articles than any others (possibly a large number of Indian editors with English as a second language?) Grutness...wha? 00:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

ASGAP

Well done on your hard work - but hey linking species to specific ASGAP work groups - isnt that a bit misleading? Maybe you are going to do something to follow up but - the links appear to be going to the species/genera (good stuff) - but that is nothing to do with the specific work group - your hard work I am, not doubting - but I fear the equivalent of an american geographically challenged teenager (who person our project with amazing things like the trivia project) might feel that being directed to the species genera rather than a work group might wonder if its a road travelled without adequate sign post? please reprimand my ignorance if I have it wrong - cheers

Suro
09:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

What would you say to a change in the words at the lead into the list? I realise how long it would have taken to done those links - I am not trying to denigrate that - I am just thinking of some of the enlightened users of this old goldfishbowl :(

Suro
09:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

NOonono - please dont de link - I think I originally added the list because my parents were members from year zero for the association and I have all the publications - nah we need to think of a nifty lead sentence to the list - hey I am so impressed by the fact that you did the hard work - its the way the sentence read that will clear the issue - as for my talk - I speak with too many admins too much (see my talk stats) - one of them protected it at some point and probably forgot to undo it - not that I want it undone considering the number of twinkle warnings and reversions of IP's I have been doing recently :|

Suro
09:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok - suggestion - Study Groups - the following species/genera of Australian plants relate to study groups that have existed within the history of the ASGAP - some may not be currently active - however the following list indicates the comprehensive nature of the study groups and the extent to which ASGAP members have dealt with the variety of flora within Australia.

Please feel free to edit/re-write - but imho that would support your hard work and the article would be an excellent example of a lead into the diversity of oz flora

Suro
09:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do whatever you like - I would suggest that if it hasnt been mentioned above - that the groups do sometimes become inactive and then reform and they are not all constant at any one time over the decdes - and thanks for doing it - cheers (im off for a few hours now)

Suro
09:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Australia Museum Stub

Thanks so much for helping with this stubbing. I think it's a needed and useful stub, so hope it will survive its discussion. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 14:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

and thanks for letting me know it passed! TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 13:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Recat

Oh thanks for that. I did ask Pegship to create the Bengali film cat. It seems a major cooincidence it was done soon after

$1,000,000?
10:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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talk
) 15:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC) .

Good luck

Indonesian airport stubs and arts are like looking into the mouth of hades believe me - you must have a constitution of iron and a head for unravelling confusion - one of my fellow indonesian project eds spent most of his on wiki time reverting deliberate fraudulent rubbish from a complex sock nuisance fella - trust you have a very good idea of indonesian geography and are able to sustain good sense of calm in the face of some very poor english eds from indonesia out to frustrate your attempts at cleanup. I admire your courage . Also my apologies if I undid your work or appeared rude at talk at Gordon Splits - I could explain but not on wiki - cheers

Suro
15:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

In that case ignore the above message, or most of it - the actual content issue is irrelevent to you then - what a relief

Suro
01:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Indonesian airport stubs

Hi Kathleen - It looks OK to me; all I did was change the template wording a bit and add parent cats to the stub category. What problem were you having? Her Pegship (tis herself) 17:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message - well done with the hard work - please accept my apologies in advance for the highly unlikely event of any of them ever getting to higher status - appreciate what I think might be your sense of humour - glad you didnt meet the monsters

Suro
13:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Sotai (Bible)

Regarding the article Sotai (Bible) that you recently created;

It currently does not contain sufficient information or details to warrant an article on wikipedia.

Could you please consider either improving the article, or merging the information into a main article.

Specifically, if it is to remain as a stand-alone article, it would require a suitable paragraph or two at the beginning, explaining the context etc, with links to other articles as appropriate; for example,

Sotai is a character in the Hebrew Bible.

It would also require external reference(s) to establish the facts - perhaps a link to an authorized edition of the text?

If there is little or no content that is likely to be added to the article, please consider removing it.

I hope this is constructive advice,

Any questions, please ask on my own homepage,

Regards,

--  Chzz  ►  00:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Removed - Judaism-stub

on Kabbalah related articles - why?--

comms
) ♠♥♦♣ 07:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. I'll give you a hand since I have just undone three--
comms
) ♠♥♦♣ 08:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter

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Welcome to the Sixth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

Luckily, you all won't have to see my comments very often, as very little I have to say is really that important. But I would like to take the opportunity to say that I hope everyone finds the new

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talk
) 08:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Seven Archangels

Hi Kathleen. I am not going to be able to contribute to this article because my understanding is largely within the earlier Jewish tradition and not the Christian tradition which is what the article is about--

comms
) ♠♥♦♣ 23:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Dark tunnel

My watch list says you have entered it - and that particular article as well (sigh) - please any counsel, sympathy or general muffled hysteria about the state of Indonesian articles is always welcome at my talk - as to any remedies - thats another matter - cheers or should that be condolences

Suro
11:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Now my watch list is lighting up like the sydney harbour bridge - oh well you clearly need no conversation about it after all then
Suro
12:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

As for popcats you gotta be joking - the average edit in the indonesian project is to overpopulate the indonesian rupiah or indonesian idol articles - new articles on the catholic church in indonesia havent appeared in almost a year or more :(

Suro
12:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for explanation

Suro
13:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Thanks also for cleanup in the WP Indonesia project - it is appreciated - dont say I didnt warn you :( thanks again
Suro

Suro
13:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

From Indonesia?

You ask to SatuSuro about Indonesia. Are you from Indonesia? Michel mapaliey (talk) 08:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I have responded to the odd question and have received no reply

Suro
09:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

...although I use a different version of both. I tend to not be an "early adopter" of technology for precisely this sort of reason. Orderinchaos 10:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Me too. Just got a brand new computer, and I insisted that Windows XP be installed and not Vista. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 15:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
So funny, I was one of the earliest people to receive MS DOS V1 in the 80s, and since then have waited at least a year before upgrading to next version of MS offering. With Windows I wisely waited almost 2 years, and with Vista I will likely wait more given its complexity. Hmmm, by the time I retire I will be waiting a full decade to upgrade a Microsoft product :)--
comms
) ♠♥♦♣ 22:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

External Linking to DVD Retail

Hello. Can you stop adding links to DVDs to be purchased online. Such links are not acceptable and are regarded as spam. Think about it: if we accept just one of those links then there is no good reason why several hundred retailers cannot make a similar claim to be eligible for a link on such an article and pretty soon almost any entertainment article could become a five hundred strong list of retail copies of DVDs, videos, albums etc. Thanks --bodnotbod (talk) 08:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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talk
) 08:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Left Behind

Hello, I removed this from

disambiguation page (like Body of Lies, for instance). Let me know if you need any help! —Erik (talk • contrib
) - 16:32, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

s:Wikisource:WikiProject Bible dictionaries

Are there any Wikisource members in this project, if so would you like to help with the above project. I'm trying to revive this project, but the other two members haven't been near it since 2006. At the moment it consists of copying pages of

Easton's Bible Dictionary (1897) If anyone's interested please reply on my talk page. Kathleen.wright5
02:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I may be interested. I do not understand where the pages of
talk
) 20:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Page move vandal on Envirowiki

Kathleen, a page move vandal has been very active on Envirowiki recently. I fixed the front page but heaps of others are still afflicted. The easiest way to fix it is for a sysop to rollback from the move log. I have left messages for Naught101 but he has not yet responded. Perhaps you can help?

He also attacked Greenlivingpedia but I have sorted this out, including blocking page moves for non-sysops.

Regards, Peter Campbell 23:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:s:Wikisource:WikiProject Bible dictionaries

If you know the whereabouts of the other two users, could you ask them if they're still interested in this project, if not I will remove their names from the members list. Kathleen.wright5 24:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Tetraminoe
Soarin777
--
talk
) 02:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Andrew Edmiston, Jr.

hello. He was a West Virginia congressman. Would it not be better to include both? Dlohcierekim 04:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

10m/6m Club

Thanks for the headsup. I deleted the page as a CSD G4, improperly recreated in project space. Please let me know if you see it anywhere again. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC).

Leon Liebgold

Leon Liebgold played a rabbi. Was he a rabbi?Xx236 (talk) 10:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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