User talk:Billy Hathorn/Archive 1
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Clayton Williams
Good edit. Btw, do you have references for them? I need to do so for the edit I did, actually ;) Longshot14 06:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Lou Bullington Tower
Some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article
Bruce Alger
The Bruce Alger article that you wrote seems to be a copyright violation of http://dallaslibrary.org/CTX/archives/MA83-11.html
Normally, I would slap the appropriate copyvio template on the page, and it would be deleted soon after, however, in this case the content seems to have come from a source which is intended for public research, so I would at least like to offer you the chance to re-write the article from scratch, replacing any text from that site with text of your own. Feel free to include details from the Dallas library, but direct mass duplication is not allowed by copyright law. Thank you, and happy editing! -Harmil 23:06, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles are licensed under the GFDL and in any case are not attributed to singular authors (even in such cases as those authors have been the principal [or even sole] editors). Please do not continue to append your name to the Alger article as the author. If you do not desire that your text should appear without attribution, you may, I suppose, remove it; your text, though, has already been released under the GFDL, and, so, to the extent that the article doesn't have copyright violations, any removal of relevant text will likely result in the article's being reverted. Please feel free to query me about this issue on my talk page. Thanks! Joe04:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Stop
Do not create temp pages to comment on an article. Use TALK pages. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 15:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
facts and sources
You are adding a lot of great facts to Wikipedia, and for that I thank you! However, your edits are not sourced, for the most part. If you're grabbing lots of facts from good reference sources, please
WP:ES are your friends
In particular, see
DYK
Election data
As someone who's also working on articles related to New Orleans and Louisiana politics, I really appreciate the work you're putting into articles on Louisiana politicians. I'm thinking, though, that now that I've started a series of articles on Louisiana and New Orleans elections, a lot of the material on specific campaigns and election results that you've added to articles on politicians might be better suited to the new articles on specific elections. See the
Linking, formatting
Hi, Billy. I just ran through your excellent article on
- Please stop removing links on the Wikipedia:Dates. It is not necessary to wikilink every simple date. In fact, this is against policy. — BrianSmithson18:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, Billy. I have replied to your comments on my talk page. Please let me know if you have any more questions. — BrianSmithson 16:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Categories
Hello. You are really doing a great job on your articles. Please keep the Categories toward the bottom of the page when creating or editing (not the top). See the Wikipedia:Categorization page example "Adding an article to a category is as simple as editing the article and adding a link to the category. For instance, to add Felis silvestris catus article to the "fluffy creatures" category, you would edit the article and enter at the bottom, but before interlanguage links." Thank you. ACMe 20:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
accolades, references
Billy, great job with the new
Request for edit summary
When
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. – Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 21:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I notice that you still don't fill in the edit summaries. Please do so.--Oneiros (talk) 19:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Billy Chandler
Well, just keep trying if you want. But you're not required to create any links, the message is just a general request for anyone to do it at some point. Usually you can just look at some related articles, and create a little new text them if need be. --W.marsh 02:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Re: Edit summary bar
Oleg, the edit summary line. What do we put in the edit summary bar? Just a phrase about the changes made?
Thanks, Billy Hathorn —The preceding ).
- Yes, just a short summary of what you changed can go along way. :) Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 14:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, for example if you added categories, "categorized" would be a good summary as would "+Category:whichever ones added". If somebody has died and you add info about that, "Add materal on death", etc... It lets others see what was done, which can speed up editorial review. GRBerry19:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
For all talk pages, please remember to sign talk page comments with "~~~~" as the four tildes automatically adds your username and a timestamp to the comment. (Three would be username only, five is timestamp only.)
In Articles for deletion (AFD) discussion, you'll get the most mileage out of opinions out of comments that refer to the policies of Wikipedia, like
John N. Kennedy
Thank you for you recent edits to
Tommy Boy, there is no connection between the LA treasurer and the MA Kennedys. The treasurer was born a year before JFK was elected to the Senate.
Thank you for responsing so quickly, I will mention our discussion in the article. --TommyBoy 05:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Billy Hathorn 02:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)Billy Hathorn
Images
Can someone tell me how to find a picture and put it with a Wikipedia selection. I have lost the instructions, and I could not follow the instructions that I had. Thanks Billy Hathorn
- See Wikipedia:Images and linked pages. If you have a more specific question, ask. -- Infrogmation 20:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Couhig
Hi. Some of your edits to
Articles you are editing
Thank you for your contributions. Please note that you are editing many articles related to living people. I would invite you to read the policy of
02:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)WP:AUTO
I can see that you have written a thesis on the subjects you are editing. I would suggest that you read
02:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)- You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.
We welcome people who are knowledgable about a subject writing about that subject; but verifiability and lack of biased editing is important. Sometimes experts about a subject feel their opinion should count rather than supply a source; we can't verify an editor's identity let alone expertise and so we insist on verifiable sources. Sometimes experts have a bias or a conflict of interest that that gets in the way of a NPOV article; behavior on the part of the expert and common sense on the part of observers can lead to the expert being asked to contribute to the talk page instead of the article itself. Sometimes wikipedia inadvertently drives away experts for no good reason at all; I hope things work out ok. WAS 4.250 03:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Your articles
It seems like you are writing a lot of articles about Louisiana Republicans. Do you work for the state party? Rockules318 21:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
No, but I grew up in Louisiana. I live in Texas.
````Billy Hathorn````
I have written more articles about Democrats than Republicans, I believe the count would show.
Response to prod
Hi -- just wanted to let you know I've moved your comments in response to the "prod" on Dan Richey to the article's Talk page since the talk page is the appropriate place to discuss an article. --Bookgrrl 02:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but I could not find where on the Talk Page to place comments. The original challenge to the article is in the "edit" section of the article itself. Also, I have been given directions on how to place photos in an article, and I cannot understand the directions. Do you have a simplifed set of directions, listed 1, 2, 3, etc.
Billy Hathorn (I don't know the code for signing the comment.)
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The term "small time political figure" in reference to Mr. Richey is demeaning and not appropriate considering his extensive political activities.
````Billy Hathorn````
Signing comments, pictures
Hi, Billy. I saw a comment from you somewhere that you didn't know how to sign your comments on talk pages. All you do is type ~~~~ (four tilde symbols in a row). When you save the page, the tildes will be converted into your signature and the date and time. The tilde ~ is the key at the upper-left-hand side of your keyboard.
As for adding images to articles, are you having trouble uploading them or simply adding them to the article page? Let me know which, and I'll try to explain it in simple terms. Thanks, — BrianSmithson 22:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Brian, but the instructions make no sense to me on either finding the pictures, tagging them, or uploading them.
- If you have a specific image you want to use, you can email it to me and I'll place it for you. Just click on my name, then click "E-mail this user" on the left of the browser window. The image hs to be freely usable, though (one you took yourself, or that you have permission to use, or that predates 1924). — BrianSmithson 08:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've gone through about half the links you sent me, and I'll try to get the rest done soon. I'm uploading them as fair use, since they all seem to be under copyright. This shouldn't be a problem, but don't be surprised if the images get deleted. — BrianSmithson 04:23, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Dan Richey
Just so you know, I did some cleanup work on the Richey article and the links in it.
Although, you might want to find some other location to store the information that you could have had in those Yahoo mail links. Linking to Yahoo mail isn't going to work, because we all can't access your inbox.
But you are making Wikipedia a pretty good resource for information about Louisiana politics and that's pretty good too.
--RobbieFal 21:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the comments you replicated from the Dan Richey Talk page to the AfD discussion... please don't spam the AfD with discussion from the article Talk Page; it makes the discussion hard to read. Simply add an opinion of keep or delete and explain why you feel that is the correct course of action. Thanks!--Isotope23 19:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
AfD logs
Please do not remove AfD entries from AfD logs (except when relisting to get a more thorough consensus). They need to be in the logs for historical reasons. --Nlu (talk) 06:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Images
I've finished going through your photo requests. There were an image or two that weren't usable (too small or poor quality), but most of them have been added to the appropriate articles. Sorry it took so long; I have less time to devote to Wikipedia than I'd like. — BrianSmithson 05:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Your work on Seymour Weiss
Billy, I wish to commend you on your work on the "Seymour Weiss" page. I'm a newbie, and was feeling a bit down over how to clean up, or amend the article to fit within the most proper guildline here. Also, I was at a small loss as how to communicate with someone, who could assist me, or 'carry the ball' for awhile. Your additions, and revisions, are clean, and professional, and very much appreciated. Thanks - Sincerely, Brad Michael Moore bmm at bradmichaelmoore.com67.142.130.35 22:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind comment, Brad. I find that one of the most difficult things about Wikipedia is how to contact other writers. I happened to have the Dict. of La. Biog. on Weiss and was going to add some of that material to the roster. Then I found that someone had already written on Weiss. So I blended what I had with what you had already presented and made it consistent in style. I don't think I left out any of your points in the editing process.
I really did not know much about Weiss until I did this editing earlier in the week. I had no idea, for instance, that he golfed with Bob Hope, but so many golfed with ol' Bob, didn't they?
Billy Hathorn (I can never remember that user code either.)
Nicholls
Thanks for your edits to Francis T. Nicholls! Keep up the good work! This article has been added to the maintenance list of the
Thanks, Scott for the kind remarks. I also will add that Cleveland appointed Nicholls to the Board of Visitors of West Point, but I don't know just what that board was (or is). It would also be good to find what Nicholls raised on his plantation, presumably sugar. It would also be good if we could find the exact 1876 election returns between Nicholls and Packard.
Billy Hathorn 16:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Clements
Someone tried to do mischief to the Bill Clements article. I corrected what was done, but it might need to be watched.
Billy Hathorn 13:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Frank Madla article
Thanks for your great contributions to the Frank L. Madla article. With finals coming up, I hadn't had a chance to add some more extensive info on the page. One quick question, though, about the changes to the references that I had. I had been trying to follow other examples on reference usage and had the embedded <ref>(reference info)</ref> tags to indicate what info came from what source, and the <div class="references-small"><references/></div>, in the References section to consolidate them and "pretty" them up. I noticed that your edits moved my embedded references from the info that was being cited, and copied them into the References section. Not having worked on that many bios while making references myself, I want to abide by what's accepted practice for references, so if you have ny thoughts on or reasons for the changes, please let me know. — Bellhalla 13:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
To Bellhalla, I d not know how to do the imbedded commands. When I saw that my article was much more extensive than your, I just went with my artice but kept your commands in the Reference section. I think that all your information was already in my article too. I wrote the article without seeing that someone else had already done an article on Mr. Madla. That was a horrible tragedy! Fell free to move your commands back to the exact text. Do you know how to get a photo of Madla in the story?
Billy Hathorn 8:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
William E. Bennett
I've added the "{{
Mr. Bennett was an elected school board member. I am trying to find his exact years of service. It is my understanding that holding an elected office qualifies for "notability" on Wikipedia.
Thanks,
BillyHathorn 14:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- No, not a school bd membership! - crztalk21:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Billy J. Guin article
A tag has been placed on
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Albert Bel Fay article
Hello, and
Feel free to re-submit a new version of the article. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.
If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later."
You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page. Bellhalla 14:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Important information for you, Billy
Billy, I'd like to thank you for your valuable contributions to Wikipedia. I would also like to ask you to please take some time and familiarize yourself with several wikipedia policies and guidelines before you create any new articles. I've included a list of some Official Policies that you should adhere to, as well as examples of where those policies could be applied to your contributions:
- Wikipedia:Copyrights
- Example: Albert Bel Fayarticle had paragraphs that were almost completely copied from the Handbook of Texas entry on Mr. Fay. Using the words of others is considered a copyright violation.
- Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons
- Example: The lead paragraph of the Wikipedia:Footnotes
- Wikipedia:Sock puppetry
- Example: On the sockpuppetry. All, for example, used the same signature style that you were using at the time (````(name)````), and whose contributions seem to be limited to that discussion only.
- Wikipedia:No original research
- Example: on the Henry Grover article, one reference you have listed is an interview with Mr. Grover’s widow. Such an interview could likely be considered a primary source and not suitable for use in Wikipedia.
- Wikipedia:Verifiability
- Example: Referring again to the Henry Grover reference (the interview with Mr. Grover’s widow): As a source material, this would not be verifiable unless you have published it elsewhere, which would allow other editors or readers to verify it. (If it has been published elsewhere, you should reference that location instead.)
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources
- Example: in the Suzanna Hupp article several references you have listed are from http://www.ussearch.com. This link in the Hupp article seems to be the basis on which you assert that Edward Lindsey was born in 1938. (If you had used a footnote, it would of course eliminate any doubt as to what this is supporting and/or your source for Mr. Lindsey’s date of birth.) Setting aside the issue of the lack of relevance of Mr. Lindsey's age to this article, at best it gives an estimated year of birth for Edward Lindsey.
I would also suggest that you try to keep the information in articles relevant to what one would expect in an encyclopedia. For example, in the Henry Grover article, of the approximately 2,600 words you added, almost 1,100 — over 40% — were the eulogy by his son. If anything is included in the eulogy that is not covered in the article, include that portion, reference it, and then put the link to the full item in an External links section.
In some articles you have often included information that is relevant in an encyclopedic sense, but not in the context of the current article. For example, in the Suzanna Hupp article, the extended discussion of Mr. Aycock’s electoral win and percentages is more appropriate for a Jimmie Don Aycock article rather than the Hupp article.
Another thing I have seen in several articles that you have contributed to are dates of births and deaths for other people mentioned in the article. The dates of birth and death for the subject of the article are of course relevant, but are usually not for others mentioned in normal contexts. The Suzanna Hupp has some good examples of where dates are relevant and where they probably aren't. In my view the fact that Edward Lindsey was born in 1938 is not relevant to the Hupp article (unless his age was a factor in the campaign, for example). But the date and manner of death for her parents are important in the formation of Hupp’s political beliefs, and are therefore relevant.
Billy, I sincerely believe you are acting in good faith in adding your contributions, but when you add contributions that are contrary to Wikipedia policies and guidelines, not only do you create more work for other Wikipedians, but you diminish the value of your own work and time.
Please click here if you wish to discuss any of this with me on my talk page. — Bellhalla 16:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Please don't add copyrighted text to Wikipedia
Hello, and
Regarding Albert Bel Fay article
Billy, in regard to your edits on
Here, then, is what you do:
- At Albert Bel Fay, do nothing unless you are an administrator. If you are not sure if you are an administrator, then you are not an administrator.
- If you want to try to revise the article, do so at Talk:Albert_Bel_Fay/Temp.
Thanks — Bellhalla 13:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Regarding signing comments
Billy, some helpful information you might like to know: When you are posting a comment on a Talk Page, all you need to type is this: ~~~~ (The tilde symbol, ~, is usually in the upper left corner of your keyboard. You might have to hold the SHIFT key down when pressing the key in order to make sure it is a tilde and not a back tick symbol, which looks like this: `.
As an example, in the previous Talk Page item I left above, at the end I typed this: Thanks — ~~~~. The wiki software in use here automatically turned it into this: Thanks — Bellhalla 13:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC). Notice how it added the link to my talk page, the time, etc., automatically? Pretty cool, huh?
Thanks — Bellhalla 13:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Republicans in Acadiana
I'm not sure if there's a better place for this, but this could work.
Anyways, from the results that I see on the CQ Voting and Elections database for 1920, it appears that Harding won 14 Parishes in South Louisiana. Splitting the results into regions says that Cox won North Louisiana by 71%, won Southeast Louisiana by 36%, and won Acadiana by 318 votes. (When it comes to regions, Acadiana is the region mapped on Wikipedia, SE-LA is everything Southeast of West Feliciana, North LA is everything else. Just in case you wanted more info there)
Anyways, would there be any articles on here worth checking out when it comes to Republicans in Acadiana? The results I get to see as a member on Dave Leip's site say that the Republicans best region in the 1912 and 1924 elections was Acadiana. And then the region voted for Al Smith (for regions that are probably not a huge shock).
But then again, maybe Woodrow Wilson angered that part of the US a lot around 1920. It's possible.
Either way, if there's any more useful information on this topic, feel free to pass it on.
--RobbieFal 04:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Political affiliation in succession boxes
Billy, while political affiliation is important in an article about a politician, you are the only editor that I've encountered that puts a party affiliation in succession boxes. If you could point me to a discussion where a consensus was reached on putting affiliations in succession boxes, I would appreciate it. Otherwise, please follow the examples of most other Wikipedians and please stop putting the affiliation into the succession boxes. — Bellhalla 13:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
DYK
Thanks Billy for your many political contributions. This article kindly nominated by Bakasuprman. In future, feel free to self-nominate as the majority of entries are self-nominated. Keep up the great work! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
An article you created (Aldo Tatangelo) is up for deletion
Hi Billy
I noticed that you're a valued contributer to WP so I thought I should bring it to your attention that Aldo Tatangelo has recently been nominated for deletion. You can find the discussion here. All the best! The Rambling Man 17:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Rambling Man for alerting me. I think I can defend the article. Notability in the particular city or county is sufficient, isn't it? Billy Hathorn 02:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Putting party in the succession boxes
I think it is a good idea to put party in the succession boxes. It shows if there is continuity when an office changes hands or if there is a party switch. It also looks much better from an aesthetic view to have the party labels listed. And it is almost no extra work at all.
Compare: clearly the former looks much better than the latter.
Billy Hathorn 02:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- The consensus — by practice, if not by vote — seems to be that party labels are not included in the succession boxes. While I respect your opinion that the former box “looks much better”, I disagree with it and feel the latter is much cleaner and easier to read. Nevertheless, the consensus is not to put party labels in boxes, and I hope you will abide by that. Also, whether or not it is more or less work is irrelevant, because the consensus is not to put party labels in boxes.
- Also, in you second box, presumably this is the box that would appear at the bottom of the Ann Richards
boxarticle. If that is the case, adding her name in the box is redundant because the Ann Richards article is — by definition — about her. No need to repeat her name. — Bellhalla 16:43, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- How would I going about proposing that the party labels be put in the succession boxes? How can the policy be changed?
- The name is redundant, but I think it looks much better to have the name in the middle as well. Billy Hathorn
- I'm not sure where you would go about making that proposal. One thing you can do is put on this page (not an article, or its talk page) {{helpme}} followed by your question and someone will be along shortly to answer the question.
- Also, if you put one or more colons (“:”) before each paragraph in your reply (in this case, I used three, “:::”), it will indent it your reply the appropriate amount. (This is a pretty common way of formatting replies on Wikipedia.) — Bellhalla 13:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry if I was not explicit enough on the {{helpme}}.) Then state your problem or question, along the lines of “Where would I go to propose a change to Z” (where Z is whatever you want to ask about.
- What you apparently did was to edit the actual helpme template. — Bellhalla 13:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry if I was not explicit enough on the {{
- I'm not sure where you would go about making that proposal. One thing you can do is put on this page (not an article, or its talk page) {{
DYK noms
Please add nominations under the day they were created not the day you nominate them. This also does away with the need for the introduction. Cheers, Yomanganitalk 02:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Formatting tip of the day
You don't need to use the html codes for italicizing text on Wikipedia. It works, but the article will be easier to make edits on if there's not any html code in them. Instead use a doubled single quote (i.e. two of these: ' )
- Example
- Typing this:
No, it was my ''car'' that broke down, not my ''cat''.
- Will produce this:
- No, it was my car that broke down, not my cat.
You can go here: Wikipedia:Sandbox to try out any forrmatting tests or to play around with the example above. — Bellhalla 13:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
AfD Nomination: Bill Robertson
An editor has nominated the article
Mayor Robertson
This is certainly not autobiographical, or it would likely have included the full date of birth, rather than the year.
It is not really biographical either (almost nothing found on his earlier years) -- it is mostly about local elections in which Mr. Robertson has been a candidate and Mr. Robertson's leadership over his city.
Where is there a Wikipedia policy that a city must have a population of 20,000 for its five-times-elected mayor to be included? Many notable people have come from small cities.
He is the longest serving mayor (it appears) in the history of his city, certainly the longest serving since World War II.
He is notable in his section of the state. The article contributes to the political history of Louisiana.
Billy Hathorn 19:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
AfD Nomination: Paul A. Brown
An editor has nominated the article
Please use descriptive edit summaries on your edits to Free Republic
Thanks! This is a contentious article, and fully descriptive edit summaries avoid misinterpretation of actions. --BenBurch 20:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Please do something to make this article look less like a copy/paste job from a local obituary. Rklawton 20:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Wimberly was an official of the American Ex-Prisoners of War interest group and was a POW in Germany from 1944-1945. He was principal of four public schools in Webster Parish, Louisiana, and meets the test of notability in his area. He is listed on the Springhill, Louisiana, town website as among the notable persons in his community, along with the football player John David Crow and the singer Joe Stampley.
Billy Hathorn 21:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Billy as I said in my tag; "Mr. Wimberly" sounds like a very nice man. However, I know several individuals who were POW's. Some in WWII and a few in 'Nam. A few have the same creditanls, some even better, as Mr. Wimberly. Praise worthy a big YES Encylopedia note worthy sorry to say no. Good Luck either way. Shoessss 22:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Deleted POW article
Hi, Billy. I saw your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Keggy the Keg/archive1 -- I removed them because you added them to an unrelated project page where those sorts of inquiries don't belong. In the future, you should direct those kinds of questions to the admin who deleted the article (you can check the log to see who it was -- just click there, enter the name of the article that was deleted, and it will show who deleted it), or the Help Desk. Here is the last version of the page that you edited, in case you wish to copy & paste your comments from there to the Help Desk or elsewhere.
I'm not familiar with the article about the POW that you're talking about, but it sounds like it was deleted under the speedy deletion policy -- usually deletions require discussion, as you mentioned, but in certain specific cases, they can be deleted without warning. It also sounds like the page you're talking about was a notability delete -- the criteria for a speedy delete in that case is any article that makes no assertion of notability, i.e. one that does not say anything that could be construed as a claim of notability.
If you think the article was deleted unjustly, you can seek a deletion review to undelete it. I'd say your best place to start, though, is the deletion log above and asking the admin who deleted it why s/he did so and under what justification.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line -- I'd be glad to help you through whatever channels you choose to pursue. Dylan 23:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
To:Dylan 23:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The editor who deleted the article also deleted my challenge. It was a one-man decision. That is why I wonder why no one else was involved. The person deleted is listed under the "notables" section of his hometown municipal web page. He, like all of the POWs, I presume, had an interesting story to tell.
By doing "speedy deletion", the editor can make a decision unilaterally. If he allows input from others, he is less likely able to get the article he opposes deleted.
Thanks for any help or suggestions that you may give.
Billy Hathorn 23:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
John M. Duhe
Thanks for pointing out the duplicated article on Duhe. I created the shorter Duhe article after following a red link. I didn't realize another Duhe article already existed. I have asked for the one I created to be speedily deleted. Chicken Wing 16:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I checked the history logs on the John Duhe articles. I had created the article before you created the other one. I was pretty sure I wouldn't have made the mistake of duplicating an article. If you want to add more information about Duhe, you should do it to the pre-existing article. Chicken Wing 16:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Philip Nolan
Thanks for your edits on Philip Nolan. A couple of pointers. Check when you create a link to see where it goes. In the Philip Nolan article you linked Spanish which goes to a disambiguation page, where none of the items really apply to Spanish colonial possessions. The more appropriate link might have been to Spanish Empire piped as Spanish. I have made the change. Second the Wikipedia convention is to refer to the subject of a biographical article by just using his or her last name, unless the article is talking about a variety of people with that same last name. So after the introductory sentence, Philip Nolan is correctly referred to as Nolan. Date conventions vary within Wikipedia. It is considered impolite by some to change the date format of another editor, except to make an article internally consistent. As you may have noted, the software default in Wikipedia is: day, month year. --Bejnar 00:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of D.C. Wimberly
An editor has nominated
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
I have removed this as it does not belong there. That page is for explaining why arbcom, the ultimate authority over WP editors, should take a case or not. It is not a good place to put a question. Prodego talk 02:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- If it was a comment about the case, my apologies, please recreate it in its own section, like the other comments. I am sorry if this caused you any trouble, Prodego talk 20:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Harvey L. Bass
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politicians
I notice as byproducts of an AsD some of you articles about Louisiana politicians. They generally seem to have a remarkable amount of historical background about other figures. It's good to have local figures in WP, & doing them this elaborately might lead some to conclude you were following your sources very closely--even too closely. You might want to have another look at them. DGG 02:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Harry T. Pringle
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Thomas H. Welch
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I would like the Thomas H. Welch article to be sent to a committee for review, not just have one person unilaterally decide that it is unsuitable. I had never heard of River Phoenix until he died. This artist may not be that notable, but this story is unique in part because of the name of the punk rock band.
Billy Hathorn 01:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Now at AFD. NawlinWiki 03:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Thomas H. Welch
The article about Thomas H. Welch may be notable, but should be delete because the information lacks any reliable sources or references. We have to make sure the information is correct and verified. Add some sources, msg me, and I should likely change my opinion. Kopf1988 04:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
What if I called the Los Angeles County coroner's office and tried to find out about the cause of death? It might be that the information can or cannot be obtained?
Billy Hathorn 04:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Your biographical articles
I see that you have a an extensive history of creating biographical articles. The enthusiasm is genuinely appreciated. However, I'm wondering if perhaps the Wikipedia community can get you to pay more attention in your work to Wikipedia policies on such things as
Your talk page seems to indicate that you have been cautioned about these things many times. A number of your articles have been deleted for the policy violations. Yet, your editing behavior in those areas doesn't seem to have changed. Just today you have created several articles on non-notable individuals, some of which appear to be copied straight from the obituary section of a newspaper. I'm sure the Wikipedia community would like you to bring you to the understanding that that is simply not acceptable.
One of your creations today
You obviously have a great deal of energy for working on biographical articles, so that's certainly something Wikipedia can use. And indeed you seem to be genuinely desirous of making a positive contribution. So in the interest of helping to make sure that that happens, I'd like to reach out and ask you if you wouldn't please start making an effort to be more mindful of the encyclopedia's policies in your future efforts?
Thanks! Mwelch 01:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- First of all, allow me thank you sincerely for reading what I had to say and taking the time out to reply. I really do appreciate the fact that you are thinking about it.
- Two minor notes before getting into the rest of it: 1) you wrote your reply to me on my user page, rather than on my talk page. I went ahead and moved it for you, but please try to remember to put further comments on the talk page, and 2) I noted on my user page that I am actually not Matt Welch. My name is Michael. 8-)
- Now as to the issue at hand, I appreciate the fact that you attempted to re-write the article, but what you need to keep in mind is that the primarly reason the article was rejected the first time around is that the individual is not notable by Wikipedia's standards. The primary issue was not how the artcile was written; it was simply that Pastor DuBose does not merit an article at all in the first place, no matter how well-written it might be. Now, I know you disagree with that assessment. But the community has already made it's judgment on that point and quite convincingly. About a dozen other editors chimed in and not a single person other than you found this person to be notable. You are not required to agree, by any means, but we do need you to at least please put your personal disagreement aside, accept the community's consensus on the issue even though you don't like it, and move on to helping out on other articles.
- So what I'm saying is that re-writing the article is simply not the point here. The person was not notable then. And nothing has happened between now and then that would increase the person's notoriety. So re-creating the article was not an appropriate thing to do.
- Do you see what I am saying? Mwelch 02:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
What makes a person notable
Your arguments in defense of articles such as Preston Dunn and William S. Gannaway are troubling, particularly given that, as I've said, you'd been notified before about this issue of your creating articles for non-notable people. You seem to have your own standards for what you consider to be "notable". And while you are entitled to your opinion personally on that point, it would be helpful if you would understand that when you contribute to Wikipedia, you are participating in the process as part of the community. That means you need to respect the community's polices on what makes a person notable, not stubbornly insist on applying your own standards, even though you've been advised otherwise.
The community's standards are outlined
Perhaps, when considering creating future biographical articles, you can take a moment out and first ask yourself, "Has this person, or what this person created, been the subject of books or articles in major magazines or newspapers that the person or their organization did not publish themselves?" If the answer to that question is "no", then you should probably be thinking twice about creating a Wikipedia article about them. There are a few exceptions here and there, of course, but since you seem to be having some trouble with the notability issue right now, I think that might be a good guideline with which you can start. Mwelch 07:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Glenn E. Ratcliff
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AfD nomination of Henry Wiggins
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AfD nomination of Roy C. Strickland
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AfD nomination of Frellsen Reese
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Please only have one article for this individual, and if you feel neccessary, change the incorrect spelling to a redirect. --Auto(talk / contribs) 20:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Regarding edits to Frellsen Reese
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Billy Hathorn! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove
Henry Wiggins article
Hmm, I'm not sure if I have a copy. I'm at home today and definitely don't have a copy on this machine. I might have a copy on my machine at work, though. I will check when I go into office tomorrow and will definitely let you know. Mwelch 22:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I found it:
- Henry* *Wiggins** (November 30 </wiki/November_30>, 1924 </wiki/1924>
- March 4 </wiki/March_4>, 2007 </wiki/2007>), was a decorated African American </wiki/African_American> United States Army </wiki/United_States_Army> major </wiki/Major_%28rank%29> and a professor </wiki/Professor> and chairman of the Mass Communication </wiki/Mass_Communication> Department at Southern University </wiki/Southern_University> in Baton Rouge </wiki/Baton_Rouge>, where he had resided since 1962 </wiki/1962>.
- Wiggins* was born to *Henry* *Wiggins* and the former Jettie Tyson in
Pinevlle </wiki/Pineville%2C_Louisiana> in Rapides Parish </wiki/Rapides_Parish> in central Louisiana. *Wiggins*' father was technically *Henry*, Sr., but *Wiggins* used only "*Henry* *Wiggins*" even after the birth of a son named "*Henry*, Jr." *Wiggins* graduated from the historically black </wiki/Historically_black> Peabody High School (later Peabody Magnet School </wiki/Magnet_School>) in Alexandria </wiki/Alexandria%2C_Louisiana>. At the time, blacks in Alexandria and Pineville, divided by the Red River </wiki/Red_River_of_the_South>, attended Peabody, and whites were assigned to Bolton High School </w/index.php?title=Bolton_High_School&action=edit> in the Garden District of Alexandria. *Wiggins* thereafter obtained his bachelor of arts </wiki/Bachelor_of_arts> and master of arts </wiki/Master_of_arts> degrees from Southern University. He obtained the Ph.D. </wiki/Ph.D.> from Syracuse University </wiki/Syracuse_University> in Syracuse, New York </wiki/Syracuse%2C_New_York>.
- Wiggins* served for over twenty years in the Army during both World War II
</wiki/World_War_II> and the Korean War </wiki/Korean_War>. He received the Army/Korea War Service Medal with three Bronze Stars </wiki/Bronze_Star>, the United Nations </wiki/United_Nations> Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Expert Infantry Badge and Army Commendation Medal with one oak leaf cluster </wiki/Oak_leaf_cluster>.
He was a Professor and Chairman of the Mass Communications department at Southern University for twenty-eight years until his retirement in 1990 </wiki/1990>. During his academic career, he also taught at Southern University at Shreveport </wiki/Southern_University_at_Shreveport>, Southern University at New Orleans </wiki/Southern_University_at_New_Orleans> and Louisiana State University </wiki/Louisiana_State_University> in Baton Rouge.
He was an active member of the Kiwanis Club </wiki/Kiwanis_Club>, Phi Beta Sigma </wiki/Phi_Beta_Sigma> fraternity, and the Mt. Pilgrim Baptist </wiki/Baptist> Church.
- Wiggins* was first married to the former Olelia Morgan. He was preceded
in death by a brother, Curtis *Wiggins*, his parents, son *Henry*
- Wiggins*, Jr., and granddaughter Monica Jones.
- Wiggins* died at Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton
Rouge at the age of eighty-two. He was survived by his second wife,Corine Stewart
*Wiggins*; five daughters, attorney </wiki/Attorney> Frazilia *Wiggins* of
Metairie</wiki/Metairie%2C_Louisiana>; Nereida *Wiggins* Jones of Riverdale, Maryland </wiki/Riverdale%2C_Maryland>; Kathleen *Wiggins* (born ca. 1963 </wiki/1963>) of Compton, California </wiki/Compton%2C_California>; Aundrelet *Wiggins* Clarke of Atlanta, Georgia </wiki/Atlanta%2C_Georgia>, and Angela *Wiggins* Armstrong of Wylie, Texas </wiki/Wylie%2C_Texas>; two sons Stanley David *Wiggins*, M.D. </wiki/M.D.> (born ca. 1957 </wiki/1957>), of Springfield, Missouri </wiki/Springfield%2C_Missouri>, and Urban Terrell *Wiggins* (born ca. 1970 </wiki/1970>) of Baton Rouge; one brother, Herman *Wiggins* of Richmond, California </wiki/Richmond%2C_California>; thirteen grandchildren and three great-grandchildren.
Services were held: (1) at the Mount Pilgrim Baptist Church in Baton Rouge, and (2) the Winnfield Funeral Home chapel in Alexandria. Interment was in Forest Lawn Cemetery, 3994 Monroe Highway, in Ball </wiki/Ball%2C_Louisiana> north of Pineville.
—The preceding ) 07:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
Harry Pringle article
Billy, you might want to go to
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