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Archive 1

Archive 2

Hi BushelCandle, I always appreciate you for creating pages and using good typos and skills. Today I need your help for uploading images using login method. When I logged in in Wikimedia Commons, it says " You are centrally log-in, reload the pages for user settings." Afterward, I logged out to Wikipedia account, but nothing happened. Please give me a hint to uploading media files on Wikimedia Commons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin Hooke (talk • contribs) 12:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

@Robin Hooke:: I'm very sorry that my current flight schedule does not really allow me sufficient time to make an adequate reply.

Might I wickedly suggest that you place your query here:

Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Images :

(It's not the right place, but there are lots of experts there and one of them might have the time and knowledge to help you...) --BushelCandle (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Wow! Coming from you that's a really nice start to my day - I'll try and make your award justified... --BushelCandle (talk) 11:19, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

I see that you've been editing for almost 3 years now and you appear to know what you're doing. Might I suggest that you create a user page, even if it's empty, so that your user name isn't red linked? Otherwise people might assume that you're one of those drive-by editors who's

03:51, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Actually it's even worse than that! Counting previous account names that I no longer have access to, it's considerably more than 12 years.

I do take your point; humans are hard-wired to make judgements based on limited (and often insufficient) information and it's only natural that they should assume that my edits need supervision. However, it is a conscious choice for at least two reasons:

1) I'm used to finding my edits in page histories more easily due to the red colour. (When I started editing all those years ago, it was quite rare for registered editors not to immediately create a user page and my user-name stood out more. These days, there seem to be more and more registered editors that either choose not to or can't be bothered to create a user page so the utility of this ploy is steadily diminishing...)

2) Perhaps because of all those time zone changes and less humane work rosters (or just because my faculties are diminishing) I do find I make some very silly and elementary errors - so maybe it's just as well that other editors do like to check up on my actions.

Thanks for your helpful assistance, as ever and don't let the buggers grind you down! --BushelCandle (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Fair points. I just use my browser to highlight my edits (CTRL+F then type "nagual") and on talk pages I just scan for my signature. I could design one for you if you'd like. And thanks very much for that last point! All the best, nagualdesign 17:29, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

BushelCandle, you probably already know this, but user pages are not required, nor are they necessary. Editors don't "own" their userspace anyway, so any suggestion that it's important to do so is misguided. Further, I've seen numerous experienced and long-term editors who, after a period of time (sometimes years), ask for their user page to be deleted. Bottom line, it's a "if you want to have one" kind of thing. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 17:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I did already know that - but thanks for your interest anyway.

I don't see nagualdesign's initial post immediately above as "misguided". He lucidly explained his concern and at no time did I take his post as anything other than helpful and an optional suggestion.

PS: I really do think you should now go out of your way to avoid interacting on the same talk pages/sections as he...

All the best! --BushelCandle (talk) 17:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Since the talk page discussion has been hatted, I'll respond to you here re: "We both know that you often have pertinent points to make, Winkelvi, but the very act of making them to Nagualdesign has perhaps reached the stage that it is completely counter-productive. [1]:

I'm now forced to agree with you and have no hope that any amount of attempting to discuss rationally will now prove fruitful with that particular editor. Nor has it ever, truth be told. From the very first interaction I had with him [2] [3] to the most recent [4], "you do play the fool. You appear to believe that you can use your Asperger's as a get out of jail free card. Well, I've encountered quite a few people on the autistic spectrum in my life and I can honestly say that none of them are quite like you. The negative traits you exhibit have nothing to do with Asperger's and everything to do with you being immature, self-absorbed, self-important...Saying, "Waah! Asperger's!" every time someone picks you up on your tiresome bullshit is an insult to people with Asperger's." [5]. Indeed, it's never been productive or pleasant.

Thanks for the nudge. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 18:00, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

My pleasure. Happy and productive encyclopaedia construction, Winkelvi ! --BushelCandle (talk) 18:05, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

(Later) I see that your helpful commitment to cease interaction with User:Nagualdesign has now been formalised here. I see that the commitment is one-way (ie User:Nagualdesign has made no such reciprocal commitment) so if this causes you any difficulties in future, please do not hesitate to contact me so that I can try and act as an intermediary and obviate the need for you two to interact directly with each other... --BushelCandle (talk) 23:13, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Could you please do better edit summaries than this horrible excuse for an edit summary special:diff/850907254, otherwise you might find people protesting or reporting you personally. 😊 --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:25, 18 July 2018 (UTC) (please  mention me on reply; thanks!)

Bearing in mind that my edit added one word (him) and a comma and removed the internal link to United Kingdom, what in particular do you think was inadequate or mendacious about my edit summary of " It is well sourced that many protested this horrible excuse for a pussy-grabbing human being PERSONALLY - not just his policies. Also, WP:OVERLINKING specifies that very well known geographical entities such as countries are not usually internally linked" when I edited our Donald Trump baby balloon article, @Emir of Wikipedia: ? --BushelCandle (talk) 19:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Why do I need to bear in my the edit? My comment was about your edit summary, the actual edit was good thanks for your help. One inadequacy was the incivility that you were showing to his honour the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. Even if you may think that his character is not as good as other peoples, which is a subject matter and many many people would probably disagree with you,

WP:SUMMARYNO says we should avoid incivility. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC) (please  mention

me on reply; thanks!)

I thought that Trump only tweeted - I did not realise he edited here too. What is his Wikipedia account name so I can avoid being directly uncivil to him in future, please? --BushelCandle (talk) 19:58, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

I think MelanieN might know. ^[sarcasm] -- Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:24, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Just to let you know,

WP:BLP applies to edit summaries too. I once posted a link to a funny YouTube video on a user talk page, foolishly using the title of the video as my edit summary. The edit was immediately RevDeleted by an admin who then placed a note on my user page, and when I responded by explaining that that was simply the title of the video I was blocked and my explanation was RevDeleted. It took several editors coming to my aid to get to the bottom of things and I was eventually unblocked. The moral of the tale is that people lose their fucking minds when it comes to talking about Trump, and freedom of expression goes out of the window. Although it's perfectly legal to say "I think Donald Trump's a sociopath", or WTTE, you're likely to be judged as if you'd just written "Donald Trump is a sociopath", which is a BLP violation (written here only for demonstration purposes). Happy editing! nagualdesign

22:48, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Wow!?!

Thanks for the heads-up ! --BushelCandle (talk) 22:54, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Women Disobey

"Sara Hershkowitz said the crowd of 15,000 at her Netherlands performance was “screaming like I was Beyoncé every time I sang above a B natural.”" - video, and it takes some patience. Whole thing is on YouTube. (You can also get blocked when you post links to possibly unfree videos, DYK?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Visa requirements for Hungarian citizens, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Visegrad (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver).

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 09:05, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks once again for your tireless vigilance. I've now disambiguated to Visegrád Group via a pipe showing "V4". --BushelCandle (talk) 13:04, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

(Later): and been reverted without explanation by the edit warring tag team of User:Norvikk/User:Getgotgotten... --BushelCandle (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey, I get how frustrating it can be to have someone continually remove your comments. As I reminded

18:55, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the timely reminder.

I would have no difficulty if

archiving to history but we both know he's not even reading the comments - never mind responding to them. Never mind, the wanton damage he's doing can be repaired when he sleeps... --BushelCandle (talk

) 19:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Seems like I might have gotten thru to them on the last one. I'm not particularly thrilled with the personal attack in the edit summary, but it looks like another admin is addressing that. SQL^{Query me!} 19:58, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

It's a great pity to see two of User:Norvikk's accounts blocked at the same time as both of their accounts make some very good edits when they are not being pointy and reverting twice in 24 hours over many articles without explanation just because they can get away with it.

I will have to take a break too, now, since it would not seem to be "playing cricket" to rectify their damage without either of the blocked accounts having the opportunity to comment on any errors I might make... --BushelCandle (talk) 21:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I appreciate your edits, but you also have to understand that when you go against consensus there is no point in undoing back and forth. A discussion needs to take place beforehand. Pushing your views through edits instead of through vigorous discussion isn't helpful. Please take time to listen to other editors and then once a common view is found we can all proceed with inserting such content into the article. Thanks!--Twofortnights (talk) 10:30, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

While I thoroughly agree with the broad principles you expound above I'm completely baffled as to exactly what you're referring to.

Please, therefore, provide diffs of both the edits I have pushed through and the consensus / discussion / policy page that meant they were non-consensual.

If you are really meaning that I shouldn't change or edit an article that you have "perfected" according to your stance, then I'm afraid that isn't the way that Wikipedias work and you will be doomed to frustration. --BushelCandle (talk) 10:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Do you know what actual information is? Do you know where to look for it? Do you know when it is updated? Do you know sources?

This photo of my mail. This letter from the manager of Henley. I Russian also receive it in Russian. I think you can understand the first offer. "Update 10 July 2018 For the third quarter 2018" Everyone can ask about inclusion in mailing for media. It is available in many languages. [6]

You don't use easy ways. You are at war with good.

Relevant information is available on the website. Access and search very easy. It is so easy. [7]

By the way, article about the index has been spoiled. One of the users with administrator rights eliminated hundreds of edits. I think it was your friend. We lost the edits for several years. We have lost the great table. This table contained all countries and all years. We could see the dynamics of the changes for all countries. Now the article is a ruin. Many excellent users are gone. The articles were destroyed. Barbarians attacked Rome. Rome fell. Dark ages have come.

https://www.henleypassportindex.com/global-ranking

--Norvikk (talk) 20:01, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

P.S. Do the job that BushelCandle didn't have time to do while learning to use Google search.--Norvikk (talk) 22:33, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

https://cdn.newswire.com/files/x/90/1f/ebfd3ff605448a1787c64c3153ec.jpg

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/japan-and-singapore-are-global-leaders-when-it-comes-to-passport-power-300677875.html

Unfortunately, you don't know how to work with the source. You need a reference to the source.

The Lebanese article has become much worse. Fixing the size of maps is necessary for the correct display on tablets. The image of the eye is disgusting. This is not an anatomical Museum. You're a few days destroy the articles.

May be you will do useful work? Uzbekistan is introducing e-visas. 200 articles and 200 maps need editing.

Stop doing nonsense, do useful things.

P.P.S. I'm sorry for the harsh words again. I don't know how to talk to you. You're so stubborn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norvikk (talk • contribs) 22:51, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm deliberately going to take some time before I respond to give us both time to do some research and take a deep breath. --BushelCandle (talk) 23:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't know how old you are. I'm either dealing with a stubborn teenager or a stubborn old man.

I wish you the best of everything!

This is my last message. Conversation's over. --Norvikk (talk) 23:07, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

I was still debating with myself whether there was any point in trying to pen a rational response when this happened.

It's a great shame since, when you were calm and rational, you contributed some very worthwhile technical edits to our visa and travel document articles.

I also see that now both you and your sockpuppet account of User:Getgotgotten have been blocked indefinitely from editing. Consequently if you wish to add anything to this page, please do not use an IP address (which may lead to range blocks) but email me a civil response and, if it complies with this project's rules, I will post it here on your behalf... --BushelCandle (talk) 10:37, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

FYI, you might want to see

WP:PROXYING. stwalkerster (talk

) 10:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

@Stwalkerster: Thanks for the pointer (I suspected there might be rules governing that sort of thing).

I read there that "Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned or

blocked

editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits. Editors who reinstate edits made by a banned or blocked editor take complete responsibility for the content."

I could probably pass the "independent reasons" test for posting responses on this my talk page but passing the verifiable or productive test might be tougher. Assuming the rules are mainly concerned with article rather than user space, do I have to prove that the email exists for the verifiable part or does that refer only to content placed or removed in article space - ie the usual verifiable and reliable sources?--BushelCandle (talk) 11:15, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

References and notes

References

Notes

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Boldface indicates to bold the first use of the title and the first use of titles that redirect to the article. I generally interpret this as bold former names (former names of companies and places usually.) That's why I bolded the old name in the Henley Passport Index article. It has since been rewritten. Just so you know my reasoning. RJFJR (talk) 19:33, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, RJFJR. (This refers to this edit. --BushelCandle (talk) 19:59, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Please stop your current behavior of targeting me. You have already

) 04:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the heads up, but another astute editor beat me to fixing it.--BushelCandle (talk) 22:54, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

You are Most Welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

That RFC you refer to was a general rule to apply to all Taiwanese articles so that consensus on one article does not apply to all of them. We had some editors using consensus on one page to affect all the others... we can't do that. Taiwan however did reach consensus on American English and we had to do it because of one editor changing every singles Taiwan article to British English. The Taiwan article was mostly American English and had been for quite some time. The one person who questioned it was the culprit that administrators had to warn in the first place. This was a done deal, but did not extend to date formatting. After some initial arguing about date formatting I relented to British style by some new evidence shown at Taiwan airports. But American English still stood. We can try and abolish any two-way words that can cause an issue and I encourage you to try yourself. As far as I can tell, the article guideline you changed (and I made more accurate) was really only used for the Taiwan talk page. We can certainly go back to before either of us changed it. Cheers. I do like your hemi-demi-semi-retired headpiece. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created,

welcome page

if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by

) 07:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I really am not sure how I can explain more clearly than before. A Userpage starts with (USER:). The last 2 pages you created are mainspace article. I hope you can understand why they are tagged for deletion.--Cahk (talk) 08:01, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Indeed I do and it's unfortunate that the two talk pages where I both thanked you profusely and apologised unreservedly were deleted within minutes (and presumably) before you had had a chance to read them, Cahk.

[8:14, 28 May 2019 RHaworth deleted page Talk:BushelCandle/Wikipedia:Advocacy (G8: Talk page of a deleted page) see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20190529000000&limit=250&type=delete&user=RHaworth&page=&wpdate=2019-05-28&tagfilter=&subtype=&day=28&month=5&year=2019 ]

Perhaps that is a defect in the template (perhaps the template should be amended so that a duplicate of any hot-button reply is placed on the miscreant editor's talk page too)?--BushelCandle (talk) 02:55, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't trust his edits so am reverting them. Doug Weller talk 12:49, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

He has been on a bit of a mission to make sure "The Truth (TM)" regarding Abiy Ahmed's persecution of the Tigrayans of Ethiopia is published.

It's a pity that nobody has the time to take him under their wing and tutor him in our policies - he's certainly not lacking in enthusiasm and energy... --BushelCandle (talk) 04:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

I agree. Maybe if someone had the time and energy.. but the "truth" bit might be an impediment. He's been socking since before at least 2, I think3 appeals as "Honesty lover". Check user confirmed. Doug Weller talk 12:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Please see the talk page on

) 03:31, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comprehensively name ALL the "edit warrior"s before you lazily hit the revert button again (losing painstaking edits in the process).

In my experience, over-use of the revert button (rather than painstakingly editing and correcting where necessary) is one of the hallmarks of disrespectful editors.

I've checked the sources - and the author herself is likely to be authoritative on how she identifies

"I am lesbian, so any characterization of me should use that term. (To call me "queer" when I identify as "lesbian"--and have written about same--is equivalent of calling a straight man "bi-" despite his published statements to the contrary. The broader category may contain but does not accurately represent the individual.)"

- and substituted the kindlier and more precise "lesbian" for "queer" as this is less pejorative in some non-US English flavours. --BushelCandle (talk) 03:41, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Please actually look at the edit history of the page and talk page. The user Hedgielamar has used 3 sockpuppets (all now banned by checkusers), has been banned once for edit warring on the page, and the user's edits been reverted by over half a dozen editors including several administrators. The user continues to add basically the same information that is meant to push their POV. They are listed on the talk page as a COI editor. The information they have added is incorrect and not supported by the sources. I reverted your edits that reinserted that same exact incorrect information. I never reverted any changes about her sexual orientation (see my reverts here: [13] [14] [15]).

Also, as for "lesbian" or "queer", you are quoting a Wikipedia post by what is likely another sockpuppet of Hedgielamar. On that same noticeboard, I had already posted a comment from the author's Twitter account where she calls herself "queer", which calls into question even more the identity of the Wikipedia account "EJLevywriter". I don't care what is put as her sexual orientation as both lesbian and queer are sourced, but figured you should know.

I am going to revert the incorrect information added by Hedgielamar. I have noticed that you have added additional information that is not sourced. I assume you are still doing work on the page, but please note that information needs to be

talk

) 04:25, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I have emailed E. J. Levy for clarification as to whether the text in green above is a true quotation and reflection of her self-identification.

I appreciate that, even if she replies in the alternatives, it would still be better to have a secondary source as corroboration.

What I do detest, reading your reverts on the article and congtributions on the article's talk page, is people wikilawyering to do a hatchet job and righteously self-jistify. We should not allow sockpuppet dramas and allegations to subvert our encyclopaedic task of not deliberately printing untruths in the biographies of living people.

You write above: "I am going to revert the incorrect information added by Hedgielamar." You can not use the revert button to do that without losing the paisntaking edits of other editors (including admins and myself). You need to edit - not revert!

Short version: STOP hitting that revert button and take the time and care to actually edit! -BushelCandle (talk) 04:44, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

(Days later) Note to self for future squabbles: Wally can't plead ignorance of what constitutes edit warring and 3RR... --BushelCandle (talk) 03:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You know what, I actually have carefully edited the page. Several times. You would know if you had actually looked through the edit history. Instead you refuse to look at it, ignored the talk page, and reinserted incorrect material several times. I have reverted literally only the same incorrect information that has been reinserted repeatedly by a COI edit warrior. Maybe instead of talking so self-righteously, you need to actually look at what you are talking about and the actual edits. You already accused me of reverting your edits to her sexual orientation, which I never did. I believe you may be the who needs to pay more attention. I have spent plenty of time painstakingly trying to help you understand the disruptive editing that has been affecting the page. You seem uninterested in that, and so I am going to stop. BTW, please provide sources for your additions to BLPs, and that generally does not include opinion pieces or blogs as you have added to Levy's page. Any further discussion can be had on the article talk page. Thank you.

talk

) 04:53, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I have looked through the edit history and I see you edit warring by reverting rather than editing out what is wrong. You did that to me - thrice in a matter of minutes:

1, 2, 3 and now four times !

What exactly is "the same incorrect information" ??? --BushelCandle (talk) 05:26, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi there! I'm an involved editor in this as well, and while I may be shoving my face where it's not wanted by chiming in here, I was hoping I could clarify - I'm pretty sure Wally didn't intend to revert your stuff, they were only trying to revert User:Hedgielamar (currently on a 1-week block for edit warring).

The short version is that Levy's page has a section on the criticism that her upcoming book has been met with (using female pronouns for Dr. James Barry); that section is kept short (in proportion with the rest of her article) and the sources are reliable. The contested edit cites a low-quality source (Bustle, usually with the URL misspelled) in an attempt to downplay the controversy and refute the other, higher-quality sources.

Hedgie has been repeatedly attempting to insert their edit against consensus and has been ignoring repeated pleas to discuss this on the article's talkpage and/or their talkpage (or really anyplace, I'm not picky, they're just not communicating). They were already blocked once for edit-warring, and while blocked they circumvented it via a sock, earning a longer block. If you visit their talkpage you can see records of this, the admin's warning that if they sock again they'll earn themselves an indef, and repeated attempts to communicate with them. There are also two separate discussions on the BLP noticeboard about Levy, if you're interested in seeing more of this mess.

I hope this helps in terms of what the same incorrect information is; the book's not even out, so we're recording the controversy surrounding it as cited by multiple sources, and at least one person is dissatisfied and insistent. I'm always happy to discuss further if you'd like! NekoKatsun (nyaa) 16:33, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello BushelCandle,

Could you change the map on the Taiwan Wikipedia page to this? If possible, could you also change the file name?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#/media/File:Taiwan_in_China_(%2Ball_claims_hatched).svg

Thanks! Est12345 (talk) 06:26, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Any editor (including yourself) can do both - but why would you want to? It's just likely to lead to an edit war with a lot of editors claiming that it is a renegade province of "China" (or the PRC) and another lot saying that it has a right of self-determination and self-identification (which I lean towards)... The current content is informative and relatively balanced. --BushelCandle (talk) 06:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

) 07:05, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

^[FBDB] --BushelCandle (talk) 06:46, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

You reverted my edit which contravenes the style guide at

13:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

I am still researching the (extensive) discussion and material, but I hope to have a substantive response to your concerns. When I do respond, it will most likely be on the Talk:Non-visa travel restrictions page. --BushelCandle (talk) 00:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Your edit contravenes the consensus set out at

13:39, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

April copyright violation

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Unfortunately you have not modified the template notice you used above to include the diff that would pinpoint my alleged crime.

Please assist by providing a clear indication of what exactly you are on about!--BushelCandle (talk) 07:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

You have successfully engendered further discussion, after deciding to implement a single person's idea. Don't revert again to the innovation until it is actually and thoroughly discussed. I have no idea what the "just like United States article" comment means, but after looking I don't see any parallel with the suggested change. See you at the talk page. Shenme (talk) 05:41, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

The way that I understand consensus to work is that, if someone (ie a single editor) proposes an edit on the article's talk page and if after several weeks nobody has objected to or denigrated the proposal then you can hardly complain that you (or anyone else) didn't bother to discuss it. I look forward to seeing your input at Talk:Taiwan...--BushelCandle (talk) 05:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, it seems to me it's necessary to add "China" to PRC since most people would not know what "PRC" is nor know that "People's Republic of China" equates to the common name "China". The fact that Taiwan's official name is RO China lends to the easy confusion and wondering why Taiwan is called ROC, so brief explanation in the intro is appropriate and important. Mistakefinder (talk) 02:14, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the effort to write to me.

I believe it was this edit of mine that reverted your edit of

Neighbouring states include the People's Republic of China (PRC, or "China" for short) to the west, Japan to the northeast, and the Philippines to the south.

to the long-standing text of

Neighbouring states include the People's Republic of China (PRC) to the west, Japan to the northeast, and the Philippines to the south.

I made this revert because:

a) The lead section of a long article like Taiwan is intended to summarise the main facts that are explored in more detail below

b) Anyone not understanding that the common name for the mainland of the People's Republic of China could simply click on the piped internal link and be taken to a fuller explanation of "common name" of PRC

c) given the political tension (including threats of invasion and forcible annexation of one by the other) between the Peoples Republic of China and the Republic of China your addition seemed an unnecessary aggravation

d) the etymologies are discussed in later sections

e) your addition might have been taken as expressing a non-neutral point of view regarding the correctness of the PRC's political stance

To sum up, you have not told me anything, I'm afraid, to make me change my opinion that my reversion was correct. Sorry! --BushelCandle (talk) 02:37, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, it seems to me it's necessary to add "China" to PRC since most people would not know what "PRC" is nor know that "People's Republic of China" equates to the common name "China". The fact that Taiwan's official name is RO China lends to the easy confusion and wondering why Taiwan is called ROC, so brief explanation in the intro is appropriate and important. Mistakefinder (talk) 02:14, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the effort to write to me.

I believe it was this edit of mine that reverted your edit of

Neighbouring states include the People's Republic of China (PRC, or "China" for short) to the west, Japan to the northeast, and the Philippines to the south.

to the long-standing text of

Neighbouring states include the People's Republic of China (PRC) to the west, Japan to the northeast, and the Philippines to the south.

I made this revert because:

a) The lead section of a long article like Taiwan is intended to summarise the main facts that are explored in more detail below

b) Anyone not understanding that the common name for the mainland of the People's Republic of China could simply click on the piped internal link and be taken to a fuller explanation of "common name" of PRC

c) given the political tension (including threats of invasion and forcible annexation of one by the other) between the Peoples Republic of China and the Republic of China your addition seemed an unnecessary aggravation

d) the etymologies are discussed in later sections

e) your addition might have been taken as expressing a non-neutral point of view regarding the correctness of the PRC's political stance

To sum up, you have not told me anything, I'm afraid, to make me change my opinion that my reversion was correct. Sorry! --BushelCandle (talk) 02:37, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear BushelCandle, as I've seen in the article Abiy Ahmed, he's in 15th prime minister, not fourth. In addition, the person full name describes in bold. There is million people who have a name "Abiy". Otherwise it's seems like disruption or vandalism due to ambiguous office holding position. If he is in fourth position, it should be supported by reliable sources. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.156.95.9 (talk) 20:30, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

I've replied to you on the biography's talk page, since I think you raise an interesting point...--BushelCandle (talk) 00:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

You are most welcome

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I've now disambiguated "hypoxia" with a pipe to Hypoxemia#Environmental oxygen --BushelCandle (talk) 16:28, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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As you know, the latest pro-Palestine, anti-Israel, single-issue POV editor (with a twist of anti-Taiwan as well--he calls it a "rebellious province") once again is trying to classify the State of Palestine as if it were a generally recognized sovereign state. You have been an active editor for this article, so I wanted to remind you that if you wish to express your opinion on the issue, you may do so at the Talk page of the article in question and/or at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Palestine_country_categorization (which is the latest of several administrative complaints filed by the editor in question). Thank you, AuH2ORepublican (talk) 04:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

My commiserations, but I really don't think I have the time right now - never mind the stamina, doggedness and toleration of abuse and non sequiturs required... Sorry! --BushelCandle (talk) 13:28, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hello BushelCandle. I noticed your use of bold text for "gravitational centre" in Talk:Nelson, New Zealand (at 16:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)). This also the term that I changed to "geographic centre" on the Tapawera page, and I still believe that "geographic centre" is more appropriate there, if only for the simple reason that the 1962 newspaper article referenced also uses "geographic centre", and similarly on the various Nelson City Council web pages over the years which have also alluded to the 1962 calculations by Ian Reilly.

However, "gravitational centre" is also a term I have heard (and possibly even used myself, especially when I was much younger). Similarly with "centre of gravity" (of some country). So last night (NZ time) I added a redirect for "gravitational centre" to Geographical centre, and also rearranged/tidied up/expanded Geographical centre.

Finally, you also wrote "If you are excluding both land masses under water and the water that surrounds them, then you are not calculating the geographical centre". I reject that assertion, and have no idea what you are basing that claim on. (I did wonder if you were trying out Cunningham's Law - smile!)

Maybe you were thinking "geographic centre" cannot apply to a collection of distinct islands, or something like that?

A centroid (of area, for example) can certainly be calculated for a collection of separated regions. Ian Reilly did it in 1962 (for New Zealand), a two body system such as the earth and moon can still have a centre of gravity, etc., etc. Of course it is a little tricky to balance a map of a region consisting of more than one island on the tip of pin, but there is no problem at all doing it mathematically. If you want to do it the old fashioned way (e.g. with card, scissors, and a pin!) then you'd also need to do something like add a symmetrical support system that the pieces of card (representing islands, or distinct regions, etc.) could be placed on, such that with nothing else added then the support system is perfectly balanced on the pin to begin with.... tricky to do, but technically possible!

Imagine a circular country with a concentric circular hole in middle (so that a map of it might look like the shadow of a doughnut). If this was all perfectly symmetrical then the centroid (and

) would be located at the centre of this two circles where there was nothing for the proverbial pin to make contact with (without additional support as alluded to in my previous paragraph). This doesn't mean our hypothetical country doesn't have a "geographic centre", but rather that the point would fall outside its boundaries (which would certainly be remarkable)!

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You are welcome.

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Please stop your inane and inappropriate Disruptive templating, Wallyfromdilbert. BushelCandle 11:42, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing and personal attacks against me. You followed me to the page as part of your harassment, and the next step will be to take you to 3RR or ANI for your tendentious editing.

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I don't know who you are (or care that much). What disturbs me is your tendentious and repetitive removal of sourced material and slanting BLPs in a way to denigrate their subjects. BushelCandle (talk) 13:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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I'm sorry Martin - I simply don't have the time and, in any case, I'm Hemi-Demi-Semi-Retired. --BushelCandle (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt and effective response, 331dot, it's much appreciated ! --BushelCandle (talk) 00:18, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for taking the trouble to leave a hand-crafted, personalised message on my talk page, Dennis.

However, I do think it more efficient to centralise discussion on this topic at the relevant article's discussion page...--BushelCandle 05:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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Don't you think it's a bit discourteous/redundant/irritating to leave two very similar (templated?) messages during the course of 7 minutes, Dennis? --BushelCandle 05:50, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Why?
(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taiwan&type=revision&diff=1006823508&oldid=1006803244) BushelCandle 02:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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MOS:IMAGELOCATION.....basically it's a accessibility concern and formate preference. Best to avoid sandwiching the Hat note on small screens. ...and in mobile view the "Main" article links should seen first as there may be many and we don't want the image out of context.--Moxy

🍁 03:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick explanation,

MOS:IMAGELOCATION leads me to but I will accept your opinion that this is an accessibility issue. Sandwiching is almost never an issue with hat notes though unless 2 images appear opposite each other... In this case the image is not out of context and there are not many "Main" article links. BushelCandle

03:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

A bit more info at

MOS:ACCIM see #8. Been a rule of thumb ever since mobile version came out.--Moxy

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Thanks for that link, which seems to settle it:

"Images should be inside the section to which they are related (after the heading and after any links to other articles), and not in the heading itself nor at the end of the previous section. This ensures that screen readers will read, and the mobile site will display, the image (and its textual alternative) in the correct section." (my emphasis added). However, I hope you will concede that the rationale for this advice [ensures that screen readers will read, and the mobile site will display, the image (and its textual alternative) in the correct section] is not appropriate to what I did since the image and any alt text will still display in the correct section... BushelCandle 00:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

On mobile all elements are presented in a vertical line, so the wikitext order is important to keep the hatnotes near the title on mobile as opposed to below images where their visually distinct background separates the images from the text. For screen readers I think it is also important that Main article notes are near the headers, for ease of comprehension, but I am less familiar with their workings. CMD (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for sparing the time to educate me. I'll try and remember your advice in future... BushelCandle 08:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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Why?
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See

MOS:IMAGELOCATION.....basically it's a accessibility concern and formate preference. Best to avoid sandwiching the Hat note on small screens. ...and in mobile view the "Main" article links should seen first as there may be many and we don't want the image out of context.--Moxy

🍁 03:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick explanation,

MOS:IMAGELOCATION leads me to but I will accept your opinion that this is an accessibility issue. Sandwiching is almost never an issue with hat notes though unless 2 images appear opposite each other... In this case the image is not out of context and there are not many "Main" article links. BushelCandle

03:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

A bit more info at

MOS:ACCIM see #8. Been a rule of thumb ever since mobile version came out.--Moxy

🍁 03:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that link, which seems to settle it:

"Images should be inside the section to which they are related (after the heading and after any links to other articles), and not in the heading itself nor at the end of the previous section. This ensures that screen readers will read, and the mobile site will display, the image (and its textual alternative) in the correct section." (my emphasis added). However, I hope you will concede that the rationale for this advice [ensures that screen readers will read, and the mobile site will display, the image (and its textual alternative) in the correct section] is not appropriate to what I did since the image and any alt text will still display in the correct section... BushelCandle 00:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

On mobile all elements are presented in a vertical line, so the wikitext order is important to keep the hatnotes near the title on mobile as opposed to below images where their visually distinct background separates the images from the text. For screen readers I think it is also important that Main article notes are near the headers, for ease of comprehension, but I am less familiar with their workings. CMD (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for sparing the time to educate me. I'll try and remember your advice in future... BushelCandle 08:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, saw you undid my edit regarding passport stamps for holders of Schengen residence permits.

The fact is, according to the document referred to, only Schengen residents having a family member who's an EU citizen and travelling with them will not be stamped.

"The Commission recalls that third-country nationals, family members of Union citizens, are exempt from stamping on entry and exit when travelling with a residence card issued by Member States under Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC, accompanying Union citizens who exercise the right of free movement or residence. On the contrary, a third-country national, family member of a Union citizen, is not dispensed from stamping when travelling alone or when the person, accompanying a Union citizen, does not present the aforementioned residence card (e.g. the person lives with an EU citizen outside the EU and does not hold the residence card)."

In addition, my friend is a Philippine national with a permanent residence permit. She always gets stamped in/out of Schengen, without exception. I even asked the border guards at Arlanda airport whether she would have to obtain a new passport for her visit to the Philippines, as her passport was full. They said she would André Devecserii (talk) 16:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Are you talking about this reversion of an IP editor at Passport stamp, André?

If so, then I hope I've already made the relevant change and sorry I didn't spot it was you or I would have been more circumspect...

However, my change now rather conflicts with the earlier bullet point in the "no stamp" column:

Family members holding a residence card issued under Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC who are accompanying or joining EU, EEA and Swiss citizens exercising the right of freedom of movement doesn't it? BushelCandle 20:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Correct, was just too lazy to log on at the time. And yes, I now see that's basically already mentioned, but the fact remains that an "ordinary" residence permit holder will (or at least should) get stamped. The document (reference 14, the one I quoted above) does not state that residence permit holders in general are stamp-exempt, nor is this the case for the non-EU/EFTA nationals I know André Devecserii (talk) 07:52, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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I thought I was reverting an IP vandal, but if you think that restoring spelling mistakes and grammar errors is not vandalism, then I bow to your better judgement... --13:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC) BushelCandle

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Fair enough. Thanks for the advice and sorry to cause you extra work... --14:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) BushelCandle

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Thanks for the "Heads up", it's much appreciated.

I appreciate that it's a thankless task, reviewing draft articles, but in this case other experienced editors than myself thought that, after your review, reliable sources had been added sufficient to move the article into Main article space.

I hope you will understand that after I removed your erroneous "failed verification" tags after reformatting two New York Times citations and providing apposite direct quotations - including that quotation that directly supported the assertion of who is the commander of the Tigrayan Defence Force in the body text - I then removed the PROD template placed in error by yourself since that template is only "meant for uncomplicated deletion proposals that do not meet the strict criteria for speedy deletion" & "PROD must only be used if no opposition to the deletion is expected".

Also, your concern that "Had been declined as a Draft at AfC," is seriously outdated due to new sourcing & the TDF is now mentioned in reliable sources (NYT). Consequently moving the draft you previously declined to Mainspace is now appropriate and to be expected and, in my opinion, NOT strange at all but rather appropriate and to be expected. --BushelCandle 10:10, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2021 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the December GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since September 2021.                  Current and upcoming events Election time: Our end-of-year election of coordinators opened for nominations on 1 December and will close on 15 December at 23:59 (UTC). Voting opens at 00:01 the following day and will continue until 31 December at 23:59, just before "Auld Lang Syne". Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. December Blitz: We have scheduled a week-long copy-editing blitz for 12 to 18 December. Sign up now! Drive and Blitz reports September Drive: Almost 400,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 27 people who signed up, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. October Blitz: From 17 to 23 October, we copy edited articles tagged in May and June 2021 and requests. 8 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. November Drive: Over 350,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 21 people who signed up, 14 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. Other news It is with great sadness that we report the death on 19 November of Twofingered Typist, who was active with the Guild almost daily for the past several years. His contributions long exceeded the thresholds for the Guild's highest awards, and he had a hand in innumerable good and featured article promotions as a willing collaborator. Twofingered Typist also served as a Guild coordinator from July 2019 to June 2021. He is sorely missed by the Wikipedia community. Progress report: As of 30 November, GOCE copyeditors have completed 619 requests in 2021 and there were 51 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog stood at 946 articles tagged for copy-editing (see monthly progress graph above). Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Dhtwiki, Tenryuu, and Miniapolis. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Why did you revert my edit on the guinea page that fixed per cent to percent? LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 01:48, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Because your 'fix' was to an unusual English spelling for Africa?

Also, edits that only change the established English variety in an article are

prohibited...

See The Observer Style Guide and The Economist Magazine Style Guide and The Queens University Style Guide and Australian Government Style Guide and the New Zealand Law Style Guide and a cache of the Government of South Africa's guide to communications, which states per cent (two words); but percentage. You may also refer to the spelling section of the United Nations Editorial Manual Online which states at Section 4 – Numbers: "The words 'per cent' are normally written out. The % sign may be used in tables if space is limited."

The English Style Guide of the European Commission also recommends two words, as does the African Union. Etymologically, I believe it may be regarded as an abbreviation of the TWO Latin words per centum.

PS:It's great that you are using helpful edit summaries. Keep that up !--02:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC) BushelCandle

Tangentially related, just for a laugh: User:Austronesier/Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Don't worry, I've got "a life" although yes, occasionally I do things that make me look like I need to "get a life". :) –Austronesier (talk) 12:18, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

(At https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EEng&diff=prev&oldid=951929691 ) --89.134.151.163 (talk) 15:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi -
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On your first point, I believe that this was the edit that introduced the "Too much advertising" section and I have now made the appropriate attribution. BushelCandle 19:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors April 2022 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the April newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2021. Election results: Jonesey95 retired as lead coordinator. Reidgreg was approved to fill this role after an 18-month absence from the coordinator team, and Baffle gab1978 was chosen as an assistant coordinator following a one-year break. Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Tenryuu continued on as long-standing assistant coordinators. requests. (details ) February Blitz: This one-week effort focused on requests and a theme of Africa and African diaspora history. Of the 12 editors who signed up, 6 editors recorded 21 copy edits, including 4 requests. (details) March Drive: Of the 28 editors who signed up, 18 claimed 116 copy edits including 25 requests. (details) April Blitz: This one-week copy editing event has been scheduled for 17–23 April, sign up now! Progress report: As of 11 April, copy editors have removed approximately 500 articles from the backlog and completed 127 copy-editing requests during 2022. The backlog has been hovering at about 1,100 tagged articles for the past six months. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Tenryuu To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors June 2022 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the June 2022 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since April 2022. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Blitz: of the 16 editors who signed up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, 12 completed at least one copy-edit, and between them removed 21 articles from the copy-editing backlog. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 27 editors signed up for our May Backlog Elimination Drive; of these, 20 copy-edited at least one article. 144 articles were copy-edited, and 88 articles from our target months August and September 2021 were removed from the backlog. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: our requests from March, April and May 2022. Barnstars awarded will be posted here . Progress report: As of 07:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 209 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 1,404 articles. Election news: Nominations for our half-yearly Election of Coordinators continues until 23:50 on 15 June (UTC), after which, voting will commence until 23:59, 30 June (UTC). All Wikipedians in good standing (active and not blocked, banned, or under ArbCom or community sanctions) are eligible and self-nominations are welcomed. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Tenryuu To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors October 2022 Newsletter Hello and welcome to our latest newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Drive: Of the 22 editors who signed up for our July Backlog Elimination Drive, 18 copy-edited, between them, 116 articles. Barnstars awarded are noted here. Blitz: Participants in our August Copy Editing Blitz copy-edited 51,074 words in 17 articles. Of the 15 editors who signed up, 11 claimed at least one copy-edit. Barnstars awarded are noted here. Drive: Forty-one editors took part in our September Backlog Elimination Drive; between them they copy-edited 199 articles. Barnstars awards are noted here. Blitz: Our October Copy Editing Blitz begins on 16 October at 00:01 (UTC) and will end on 22 October at 23:59 (UTC). Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 19:57, 12 October 2022 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 303 requests for copy edit  – including withdrawn and declined ones – since 1 January. At the time of writing, there are 77 requests awaiting attention and the backlog of tagged articles stands at 1,759. We always need more active, skilled copyeditors – particularly for requests – so please get involved if you can. Election news: In our mid-year election, serving coordinators Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Reidgreg and Tenryuu were returned for another term, and were joined by new coordinator Zippybonzo. No lead coordinator was elected for this half-year. Jonesey95, a long-serving coordinator and lead, was elected as coordinator emeritus; we thank them for their service. Thank you to everyone who took part. Our next election of coordinators takes place throughout December. If you'd like to help out at the GOCE, please consider nominating yourself or other suitable editors (with their permission, of course!). It's your Guild, after all! Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Reidgreg, Tenryuu and Zippybonzo. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter Hello and welcome to our latest newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since October. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Blitz: Our October Copy Editing Blitz focused on July and August 2022 request months; and articles tagged for c/e in December 2021 and January 2022. Seventeen of those who signed up claimed at least one copy-edit, and between them copy-edited forty-six articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: In the November Backlog Elimination Drive, thirty editors signed up, twenty-two of whom claimed at least one copy-edit. Both target months—December 2021 and January 2022—were cleared, and February was added to the target months. Sixteen requests were copy-edited and 239 articles were removed from the backlog. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Our seven-day-long December 2022 Copy Editing Blitz begins on 17 December at 00:01 (UTC)*. It will focus on articles tagged for copy-edit in February 2022, and pending requests from September and October. Barnstars awarded will be available here. Progress report: As of 22:40, 8 December 2022, GOCE copyeditors have processed 357 requests since 1 January, there were seventy-four requests outstanding and the backlog stands at 1,791 articles. We always need skilled copy-editors; please help out if you can. Election news: Nomination of candidates for the GOCE's Election of Coordinators for the first half of 2023 is open and continues until 23:59 on 15 December. Voting begins at 00:01 on 16 December and closes at 23:59 on 31 December. All editors in good standing (not under ArbCom or community sanctions) are eligible and self-nominations are welcomed. Coordinators serve a six-month term that ends at 23:59 on June 30. If you've thought about helping out at the Guild, please nominate yourself or any editor you consider suitable—with their permission, of course!. It's your Guild and it doesn't coordinate itself. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers and best seasonal wishes from your GOCE coordinators, Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Tenryuu, and Zippybonzo. *All times and dates on this newsletter are UTC. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors 2022 Annual Report Our 2022 Annual Report is now ready for review. Highlights: Overview of Backlog-reduction progress Summary of Drives, Blitzes, and the Requests page Membership news and results of elections Closing words – Your Guild coordinators: Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors March 2023 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the March 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since December and our Annual Report for 2022. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. We extend a warm welcome to all of our new members, including those who have signed up for our current March Backlog Elimination Drive. We wish you all happy copy-editing. Election results: In our December 2022 coordinator election, Reidgreg and Tenryuu stepped down as coordinators; we thank them for their service. Incumbents Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo were returned as coordinators until 1 July. For the second time, no lead coordinator was chosen. Nominations for our mid-year Election of Coordinators open on 1 June (UTC). Drive: 21 editors signed up for our January Backlog Elimination Drive, 14 of whom claimed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 170 articles totaling 389,737 words. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Our February Copy Editing Blitz focused on October and November 2022 requests, and the March and April 2022 backlogs. Of the 14 editors who signed up, nine claimed at least one copy-edit; and between them, they copy-edited 39,150 words in 22 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: Sign up now for our month-long March Backlog Elimination Drive. Barnstars awarded will be posted here after the drive closes. Progress report: As of 12:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 73 requests since 1 January 2023, all but five of them from 2022, and the backlog stands at 1,872 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the June 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since March. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Election news: Fancy helping out at the Guild? Nominations for our half-yearly good standing are eligible and self-nominations are welcomed; it's your Guild and it doesn't organize itself! Blitz: Of the 17 editors who signed up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, nine editors completed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 24 articles totaling 53,393 words. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 51 editors signed up for the month-long May Backlog Elimination Drive, and 31 copy-edited at least one article. 180 articles were copy-edited. Barnstars awarded are posted here. Blitz: Sign up here for our week-long June Copy Editing Blitz, which runs from 11 to 17 June. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 03:09 on 6 June 2023, GOCE copyeditors have processed 91 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 1,887 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Baffle gab1978, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybongo. *All times and dates in this newsletter are in UTC, and may significantly vary from your local time. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Guild of Copy Editors September 2023 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the September 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. David Thomsen: Prolific Wikipedian and Guild member David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) died in November 2022. He was a regular copy editor who took part in many of our Drives and Blitzes. An obituary was published in the mid-July issue of The Signpost. Tributes can be left on David's talk page. Election news: In our mid-year Election of Coordinators, Dhtwiki was chosen as lead coordinator, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo continue as assistant coordinators, and Baffle gab1978 stepped down from the role. If you're interested in helping out at the GOCE, please consider nominating yourself for our next election in December; it's your WikiProject and it doesn't organize itself! June Blitz: Of the 17 editors who signed up for our June Copy Editing Blitz, 12 copy-edited at least one article. 70,035 words comprising 26 articles were copy-edited. Barnstars awarded are here. July Drive: 34 of the 51 editors who took part in our July Backlog Elimination Drive copy-edited at least one article. They edited 276 articles and 683,633 words between them. Barnstars awarded are here. August Blitz: In our August Copy Editing Blitz, 13 of the 16 editors who signed up worked on at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 79,608 words comprising 57 articles. Barnstars awarded are available here. September Drive: Sign up here for our month-long September Backlog Elimination Drive, which is now underway. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 14:29, 9 September 2023 (UTC), GOCE copy editors have processed 245 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stands at 2,066. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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