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CICLocations image needs updating I'm coming to you as I see you made the original image

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With the addition of UN-Lincoln, this image is now out of date. 170.201.180.137 (talk) 13:56, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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On break at work, so I can't give you a link now. I photographed the newer monument; it's in the Commons category for Hillsdale County, MI. As well, USGS topographic maps that I accessed through the

GNIS showed the boundary line a little bit east of the road when I consulted them. Nyttend (talk) 17:21, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply

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IN/MI/OH Tri-Point information for personal reference

• Geocaching page
• Benchmark Description (for granite post), (A 10-INCH SQUARE GRANITE POST, PROJECTING 1.3 FEET ABOVE GROUND, HAS INCISED THERON THE FOLLOWING LEGENDS, ON THE TOP, STATE LINE, MICHIGAN ON THE N FACE, OHIO ON THE S FACE, AND INDIANA LINE 20 FEET WEST IS ON THE W FACE. NOTHING IS INCISED ABOVE GROUND ON THE E FACE.)
• Sketch of the Benchmark's original appearance, based on the above description (drawn by ajk2009aes)
• Map of the Tri-Point area, (also drawn by ajk2009aes)
• Granite Benchmark (BM1841) from 1915 MI-OH joint survey (courtesy of lucyandrickie; note that you can make out "DIANA ) FEET")
  • Photo of the same monument from July 2001 by Brian J. Butler
• Brass Tri-Point Disc (courtesy of EnPleinAire)
• Williams County Engineer Northwest Twp. Map
• Williams County OH Road 1 at Tri-Point (courtesy of NoCache-NoCredit)
• View of the Benchmark aligned with the Tri-Point (thanks to Shorelander for that shot!)
• Hillsdale County, MI plaque (courtesy of CallawayMT, who also recommended parking here, which is 130 feet north of the post and tri-point on the eastern side of the road)
• Tri State Corners in the United States by Jack Parsell, Feb. 2002 (Jack Parsell put together a booklet of his visits to America's land tripoints and he gives a brief description and history of the IN-MI-OH tripoint on page 22B)
• Info for MI-OH Survey Post #28 (provided by stvanme, this gives the bearing of N 87 59'10' E from Post 28 to Post 29)
• State Line 50th Anniversary of Michigan - Ohio Boundary Survey (info on the 1915 MI-OH joint survey and descriptions for the boundary markers)
• U.S. Geological Survey, Bulletin 552, p. 52 (lists the coordinates of the tri-point as 41°41'46.2" N, 84°48'21.1" W)
• C.E. Sherman's 1916 report on the Ohio-Michigan line survey (p. 30 reports the Witness Post as being 20 feet, N 87°32'12" E from the tri-point)
• The Michigan-Indiana Border Survey by Ovans, Plooster, Caverly, Mclean, Park, & Bell
• Illinois Becomes a State: 1818 Compromise, Later Conflict (discusses some of the issues that arose when drawing state lines for the Northwest Territory's 5 states (OH, IN, IL, MI, WI)). By Catherine E. Breen, Gerald A. Danzer, and Janet A. Lueby

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League maps

This is a list of league maps I've added, for my own reference. If changes are needed to any of these, please let me know!

Ohio high schools File:AkronCitySeriesMembers.png File:Blanchard Valley Conference.PNG File:Blanchard Valley Conference 2014.png File:Buckeye Border Conference Map.PNG File:CardinalConferenceMap.PNG File:EastCentralOhioLeaguePost2010.PNG File:FederalLeagueOHSAA.PNG File:Firelands Conference Map2.PNG File:Firelands Conference All-Time Members Map.png File:Greater Buckeye Map.PNG File:Green Meadows Conference Map.PNG File:Inter-ValleyConfMap.PNG File:JohnnyAppleseedConfAllTime.PNG File:MidBuckeyeConf.PNG File:MidOhioAthleticConferenceRedBlue.PNG File:MidOhioAthleticConference2013.PNG File:Midland Athletic League Map with Lakota.PNG File:Midwest Athletic Conference Map.PNG File:North Central Conference Map2011.PNG File:NorthCentralConferenceAllTime.PNG File:NortheasternBuckeyeConf2011.png File:NorthernBuckeyeConference2011.PNG File:2011NorthernLakesLeague.PNG File:AllTimeNorthernLakesLeague.PNG File:Northern Lakes League Map.PNG File:NorthernOhioLeague6for2011.png File:Northern Ohio League Map.PNG File:Northern10AthleticConference.PNG File:Northwest Conference Map.PNG File:OHSAANWCC2009.PNG File:NWOAL Map.PNG File:AllTimeNWOAL.PNG File:OhioCardinalConfMap.PNG File:PatriotAthleticConference.PNG File:PortageTrailConferenceMembers.png File:PrincipalAthConf-8.PNG File:Putnam County League Map.PNG File:Sandusky Bay Conference Map.PNG File:SanduskyRiverLeagueMap.png File:SouthwesternConfOHSAA.PNG File:SuburbanLakesLeague2009.PNG File:SuburbanLeague.PNG File:ThreeRiversAthConf2011.png File:TAAC2011Map.png File:ToledoCityLeagueMap2011.PNG File:ToledoCityLeague.PNG File:WayneCoAthLeague.PNG File:WestShoreConfMap.PNG File:Western Buckeye League2.PNG

US high schools IL: File:NorthSuburbanConferenceILmap.png IN: File:HoosierCrossroadsConferenceINmap.png IA: File:SoutheastConferenceIA.png KS: File:SunflowerLeagueKSmap.png MI: File:HuronLeagueMImap.png File:LenaweeCountyAthleticAssociationMImap.png File:SoutheasternConferenceMImap.png File:Tri-CountyConferenceMImap.png MN: File:MinneapolisCityConferenceMNmap.png MO: File:SuburbanWestConferenceMOmap.png NE: File:SouthwestConferenceNEmap.png NV: File:Southern Nevada 2A Region Map.png WI: File:Ridge&ValleyConferenceWImap.png

College/Other maps File:BigTenLocations3.png File:CICLocations.png

Ohio State Football - All-Time Big Ten Records

For your consideration:

I know that no one 'owns' wiki content, but I look to you as an important early editor in the history of this table. As such, I wanted to chat with you before going to the larger community at the talk page for Ohio State Buckeyes football.

This table seems quite large, complicated, and it is being messed up by lots of good-intentioned updates by various users who are not maintaining the overall integrity that you had originally introduced to the table. The Big Ten columns get some updates, the Overall columns get fewer updates, and the result is messy. Interesting to note that the table header still says 'As of November 26, 2010', despite 2 more years of partial updates.

Perhaps it would make sense to pull the table back to the simpler, and perhaps the larger long term/rich historical importance of, Ohio record against Big Ten teams in Big Ten conference play ONLY. Another way to think of this - the table has not been expanded to show every-single-game against evey-other-team in the USA, so why chose only these 12 teams to show their non-conference results against Ohio?

Another question - and I truly do not know the answer - regards the treatment of the 'vacated' games. Do these still count in the historical record, or do they cease to exist? Whatever the answer, the header should mention it.

Final question - I've seen other sports-related pages where there will be 'hidden' text directing users to 'please do not update this table until the current season is complete.' Would it make sense to ask the same thing for this table?

Overall, would it be worthwhile to adjust the lead (and cleanup the resulting table) to say something like:

*This chart shows Ohio State's all-time results, by opponent, in Big Ten Conference games. Results are shown from when Ohio State joined the Big Ten in 1912. Results do not include Chicago after the 1939 season, and includes newer conference members from when they joined Ohio in the Big Ten: Michigan since 1917; Michigan State 1953; Penn State 1993, and; Nebraska 2011. Results do include Ohio State's self-imposed 'vacated' 2010 season, as these games have not been deleted by the Conference. -or- Results do not include Ohio State's self-imposed 'vacated' 2010 season

(Results as of completion of 2012 Big Ten Conference season)

<>!-- please do not update until completion of next full Big Ten Conference season -- <>

I look forward to your thoughts. Feel free to mark them down here, so as to keep our discussion in one spot.

Thank you.Jmg38 (talk) 22:39, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Jmg38!

I appreciate your input into the table and for reminding me to look into something I had forgotten all about! After thinking about it, I like your suggestion of just keeping it to Big Ten matchups and not overall matchups. I agree that it is too confusing to see two sets of numbers, but if we clearly state above the table that it is just for Big Ten matchups, ie:

"This table only includes Ohio State's all-time conference record against other Big Ten members and not non-league matchups. Ohio State began Big Ten play in 1913, so games before then would not count in this table. Likewise, any matchups against current Big Ten opponents that occurred when they were not in the league (Chicago after 1939, Michigan between 1907-1917, Michigan State before 1953, Penn State before 1993, and Nebraska before 2011) would not count either." And maybe something like "see Big Ten History for further information"

I'll figure out those numbers quickly and post a sample of what the table could look like here. Thanks! Frank12 (talk) 04:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this will be somewhat confusing thanks to Ohio State and Penn State's vacated victories. Ohio State vacated one victory against Penn State to have an overall 14-13 record against them as of the completion of this year. However, they keep the losses on their records. So despite Ohio State's 14-13 record against Penn State with the vacated wins, PSU will claim an 8-15 record against OSU with their vacated wins. Without vacated wins, the all-time series is 15-13 Ohio State (13-7 Ohio State in Big Ten play). I don't care which we put in there, but I guess we should research to see if any other Big Ten team vacated wins over the years against Ohio State? Frank12 (talk) 04:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The table

OK, how's this look? (I got to this quicker than I planned):

This table only includes Ohio State's all-time conference record against other Big Ten members and not non-league matchups. Ohio State began Big Ten play in 1913, so games before then would not count in this table. Likewise, any matchups against Big Ten opponents that occurred when they were not in the league (Chicago after 1939, Michigan between 1907-1916, Michigan State before 1953, Penn State before 1993, and Nebraska before 2011) would not count either. (See Big Ten History for further information.)

For simplicity's sake, Ohio State's vacated wins from 2010 ARE included. (See 2010 Ohio State Buckeyes football team for further information.) Penn State's victories over Ohio State that were vacated from 1998-2011 are also included, as they still count as losses for Ohio State and not victories for Penn State. (See NCAA and Big Ten sanctions for Penn State.)

All Data from College Football Data Warehouse^[1] Updated through the 2012 NCAA Division I FBS football season.

Frank12 (talk) 05:53, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That was fast work!! Thanks. Problem of multiple teams with vacated records - maybe it is simpler to KEEP the vacated games and simply note it in the lead? "Table does include results from Ohio State's 2010 vacated season and Penn State's vacated xxxx season". As long as the assumption is clearly mentioned up front, should be okay??
Another item - sortable table? Jmg38 (talk) 09:41, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Updated with those suggestions. I'm not sure how to color the background of the top rows, it won't work for me. Also, the link to the 2010 season is there in case someone wants to see who Ohio State played that season and would have vacated a win to. Frank12 (talk) 14:38, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great. I like your addition of the link to the 2010 season. Should it also mention that it does include results from Penn State vacated wins, including a link to that article? Would drop one word - "current" - since Chicago is no longer a current Big Ten participant. I can take a look at the background colour after the table is posted. Do you plan to post directly, with edit summary (something like 'Big Ten all time history table reflects games against teams while active in conference'), or post in Talk first? Might be better to post to the article and let folks respond with a talk article if they feel it is necessary.

Alright, I posted the table and its description in the talk section of the page for Ohio State Buckeyes football to see what others think. If we can just get the colors back in there, I think it'll be a great addition to the page. Frank12 (talk) 20:29, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Haha, oh wow. Thanks for the heads up. I don't see why it's such a big issue... referencing a university document that specifies their preferred shades of color for school use. I figured it was acceptable to use as a source. Frank12 (talk) 21:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems that all of the places on the list are within Franklin County. Please let me know if I can help more. Frank12 (talk) 04:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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• Boys Golf: 2014, 2015, 2016
• Girls Golf: 2016
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• Golf: 1985
• Boys Basketball: 1961-62, 1962–63, 1963–64, 1964–65, 1965–66, 1967–68, 1968–69, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1971–72, 1972–73, 1973–74, 1974–75, 1975–76, 1988–89, 1992-93
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