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A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Screw that one edit-war block you had. You didn't deserve it, but you were strong about it. Your a great editor with a great ethic. Keep it up. Good luck. 19:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
What a surprise! Thank you very much.--Jetstreamer Talk 21:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Surprise? You didn't know you were a constructive editor? Anyway, yes, your welcome. Enjoy. 21:57, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

tk to kathmandu

I added Kathmandu flights, as it is officially declared and timetables given at turkish airlines website, it can also be googled as some publications mentioned it. I also gave the reference. Please take notice, and reinsert it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgokoluk (talkcontribs) 21:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Reinsert it? I did not remove that destination from the list. BTW, the reference you provided is incomplete.--Jetstreamer Talk 21:31, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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 Fixed.--Jetstreamer Talk 00:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Surinam Airways retired fleet

Hello Jetstream, you've removed the used airplanes of the Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij, Surinam Airways, which i had added because there was no reliable source added. The problem is I don't know how to add a book like: "Flying on trusted wings" ISBN10: 9460222153 / ISBN13: 9789460222153 to the article as a kind of reference or the site http://landewers.net/PZ.TXT with the Surinamese aircraft registrations of all time. Maybe you can help me out? Thank you Nardisoero 03:17, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I've started a discussion on the article's talk page regarding your recent edits to the page. Please continue the discussion there so everyone interested in the article can participate. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 12:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Uploading images

Hi Jetstreamer,

I need some help on how to upload images related to aviation. I want to know how you upload images like this to wikipedia from websites such as Airliners.net

Thanks — Ahnaaf (talk) 15:53, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Not all the images at www.airliners.net can be uploaded, just the ones the author has acknowledged for someone else to do so. Once you have identified them, you may proceed to the upload process at
WP:COMMONS. Are you having any particular image in mind?--Jetstreamer Talk
22:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
It would be great if you uploaded this pictures: (Biman 777-300ER, another Biman 777-300ER, NovoAir Embraer). Thanks! — Ahnaaf (talk) 11:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Have you uploaded them? Ahnaaf (talk) 10:37, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
No, I haven't. The authors of those images have not acknowledged their images to be uploaded to
Commons, i.e. there are not valid licenses to upload them.--Jetstreamer Talk
21:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Mozambique Airlines fleet

Good evening, mozambique Airlines now have 12 aircrafts;

3 Embraer 120 (30 seats) 3 dash 8 Q400 (78seats) 2 Embraer 145 (50 seats); 3 Embraer 190 (96seats); 1 boeing 737-500 (116 seats).

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.249.247.145 (talk) 22:24, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Where's the source?--Jetstreamer Talk 22:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Jetstreamer. You have new messages at Nardisoero's talk page.
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Hello Jetstream, i'm not sure what exactly you are waiting for from me, but as a new contributor to Wikipedia I will first contact the helpdesk about these reference issues, I've already contacted the Surinam Airways people today to make sure about any copyright violation. For now I will stop contributing, despite the fact that I have loads of unpublished historical data about my country, of which you may have the right to question if there is not any "reliable" reference yet on the internet. All this data is from way before the digital time we now live in and for a country as Suriname likely to be lost forever...Sorry I'm not so familiar with how the Wikipedia talk page works. I can also always be contacted at [email protected]. Yours sincerely. (22:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC))

Ok, I can now figure out that the problem here is not that you're adding unsourced info, but that you are introducing content that is backed up by sources published in paper (by contrast to online sources), and you are not including the proper references. Please let me know if I'm right about this. If I am, you must know that, as per
WP:SOURCE, references published in paper are as valid as online ones, as long as you provide as much information about them as you can, so anyone can access them. Maybe we can finally cooperate to each other to expand Surinam Airways...--Jetstreamer Talk
22:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes you are right Jetstreamer. Sounds like a great plan, love to cooperate. Tomorrow I have scheduled phone calls to the editors, publisher and writer of some of these published books about copyrights etc. Already have had mailcontact. I can use any help on how to expand only truthful aviation info on Wikipedia based on facts. It might take me some time to gather all the freedoms on pictures, the valid info and to study what exactly the Wiki procedures are on new material. Thanks in advance for your moderator skills & patience. Talk 01:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)(Nardisoero (talk) 04:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC))

Surinam Airways

Hello everyone. This time I'm contacting you regarding an issue that has been around at

Oelemari Airport's talk page. Hope I've been clear enough to put in words the situation. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.--Jetstreamer Talk
23:26, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jetstreamer, you are completely wrong in all of your accusations. I might not be a whizzkid like yourself, but when i submit anything on wikipedia I do this on a 100 percent trustworthy and honest way. I may not be aware of all the rules you want to enforce on me, but my edits are to expand articles about the aviation of my country, where I'm an expert in and I have enough proof of matters of the past. So I hope you stop your personal campaign against me. Yours sincerely.(Nardisoero (talk) 23:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC))
Hello again, I'm glad to read this from you. This is not a campaign against nobody, please do not misinterpret me. If I offended you in any way, please accept my apologies. It's just that you did not respond. I've withdrawn the help request. Can we have a more cooperative relationship regarding Surinam Airways?--Jetstreamer Talk 23:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello everyone. Regarding the above, I see no other choice than asking for protection again. The discussion with this user has stalled, and no actions have been taken on their part other than keeping reverting without explanations. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Tip

Ah thanks. I usually sign things and its the rare occasion that i don't.Curb Chain (talk) 23:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

New Turkish Airlines destination to Mazar-i-Sharif

Hello, My change to the Turkish Airlines destinations site adding Mazar-i-Sharif was removed with the explanation that the source that I gave was not reliable, but it's the same source that there is on the Mazar-i-Sharif Airport site stating that Istanbul is going to be a destination from there. I added it again, since I think it's a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.129.59.220 (talk) 15:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

It is not what you think, but what the community says about
disruptive.--Jetstreamer Talk
15:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
FYI, at the bottom of the airlineroute.net frontpage you can read

All material is copyright of UBM Aviation Routes. Although the best efforts have been taken in collecting and checking the material we can not and do not warrant that the information contained in this product is complete or accurate and does not assume and hereby disclaims liability to any person for any loss of damage caused by errors or omissions.

Clearly, the material hosted there cannot be considered accurate.
Wait for an official Turkish Airlines press release for confirmation.--Jetstreamer Talk
15:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Given the fact that the search phrase "airlineroute.net" gives 155 results in Wikipedia, one can argue that this website is indeed considered a reliable source, per
WP:EDITCONSENSUS. Besides, the Mazar-i Sharif flights of Turkish Airlines have already been loaded into various flight booking engines. The service will be launched on 15 June 2013, flights depart Istanbul on Wednesdays and Sundays at 00:10, and arrive at Mazar i-Sharif at 06:15, with the return flight hours being 08:00-11:55.--FoxyOrange (talk
) 17:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure those additions you refer to were made by IPs in most of the cases. Actually, there was no consensus regarding the use of airlineroute.net as a reliable source in the last discussion, so its reliability is still in doubt. The rest of the information you provide me with is great, but we need a reliable source to verify this. Turkish Airlines has not released an official statement regarding the commencement of such flights. Don't you think it's time to raise the matter of reliability for this source again?--Jetstreamer Talk 17:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to re-open the discussion; I guess it would be best to post your concerns at
WP:NTEMP, because discontinued destinations are just removed, but that's a totally different matter).--FoxyOrange (talk
) 18:07, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry if my behaviour was perceived as disruptive, but I'm quite new here in editing in Wikipedia and I still don't know well those precise rules. But besides the source I gave, I consulted other sources as well and I even confirmed that in another site I would have been able to buy a ticket from Istanbul to Mazar-i-Sharif, in a direct flight of Turkish Airlines. Anyway, I'll confirm better the rules about sources reliability in a next time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.129.59.220 (talk) 02:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Not to worry. I'll try to find a
Verifiability is a policy that is tied to a reliable source. I'm sure we'll have a press release from the airline soon.--Jetstreamer Talk
00:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello Wikifellas! I intended to

AfD the article, but I made up my mind and decided to gather some comments regarding the matter. It's clear that the page cannot stay here in its current version. Any thoughts? Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk
11:58, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Looks like Jim had some thoughts; he's deleted the page. I guess that renders the question above somewhat moot... Yunshui  12:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Indeed. Anyway, thanks for your response.--Jetstreamer Talk 12:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

air fleet list

hie i have edited the removed fleet list of air zimbabwe because i have noticed there is a mistake on their current boeing 762s..Air Zimbabwe only got 2 767s not 3 as listed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.252.153 (talk) 20:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:VNT.--Jetstreamer Talk
20:30, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Bangladesh has a total of 10 aircrafts and not 9.

http://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Biman%20Bangladesh.htm (proof) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.223.104 (talk) 01:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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You have made great contributions to airport articles, so why not help me out and make this article a B-class. It almost has it, but it needs a little bit more citations and references. Thanks.

WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes
13:18, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


Aeroflot video

This [|video] was showing either Aeorflot subject that showing their planes standing, running and maintenance facts. But also this video was taken place at major international airport so this video can fit as many as pages as its factual value fits. This video is factual recording of events and real objects in the life so any factual recording must be used as wider as possible to educate people. Orgio89 (talk) 04:02, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Let's put things the way they actually are: you include the video in the article because you are the author of it, not because it has any encyclopedic value. If you want such media to stay in the article, check at least its caption. It's "Aeroflot", and not "Aerflot". This in an encyclopedia, not a blog.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Re:Ethiopian Airlines

Thanks I didn't know that! Snoozlepet (talk) 21:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure.--Jetstreamer Talk 21:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Air Journal announced that ET will start service to Singapore (http://www.air-journal.fr/2013-06-20-ethiopian-airlines-atterrit-a-seoul-ajoute-singapour-576910.html) but I don't see a start date for it and the page is in French. It also says that Ho Chi Minh and Manila launch has been cancelled. I think that MNL and SGN can be removed but I don't know about the addition of SIN. Snoozlepet (talk) 18:23, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm removing SGN and MNL from the
list of destinations. According to the source above, it seems he airline is starting services to SIN on 3 September. I will be adding this to the list of destinations as well. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk
18:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Airbus Industrie Flight 129

Hello

The qualification "pilot error" is not correct nor acceptable. There was a trial during which Airbus was condemned : http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20010226.OBS1882/proces-du-crash-de-l-a330-de-blagnac.html; This other report clearly states that there was an autopilot error http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de/publications/Incidents/DOCS/ComAndRep/A330-Toulouse/Rapport.html#3.2 . It is always easy for Airbus to say the pilots are at fault to cover the malfunctions of their aircrafts. I hope you can take my comment into account.

Christophe Caïs — Preceding unsigned comment added by CHRISCAIS (talkcontribs) 17:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. It would have helped the article if you added the above references to it, prior or following your edit. I'll archive the above two references you mention.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I've just noticed that the second reference was already in the article, in the ″External links″ section. IMHO, I don't think the first one adds much.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:55, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Looking for an Airport

Hi - I was trying to find an aviation enthusiast and I stumbled across you. I was discussing the topic of Airports with some other Wikipedians on IRC and it reminded me that my grandfather used to own an Airport in California, USA. I googled it by the name I remembered it being, and couldn't find it. Would you happen to know of any resources I could go to, to find this airport that may have been demolished or renamed?--v/r - TP 02:29, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello TP. Two sites to start with are World Aero Data and Great Circle Mapper. The second one offer the possibility to search by city.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Emirates, Etihad or Qatar

Do you want to work on any of these articles? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. I'm not plenty of time these days, but count me in. Do you have anything in mind?--Jetstreamer Talk 22:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, Qatar. It's got a short history and is a 5-star airline. Easy to write. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 00:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Air Zimbabwe

According to:

http://www.theafricanaviationtribune.com/2013/06/zimbabwe-see-pic-of-air-zimbabwes-first.html

Air Zimbabwe operate 2 new Airbuse A320's and 2 Embraer ERJ 145's

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.184.47 (talk) 09:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

The source you provide is not
reliable. I've updated the fleet table according to a new reliable reference.--Jetstreamer Talk
11:16, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea about the DYK part. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I've asked 18:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for 2011 Silk Way Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 crash