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DYK nomination of Joel Gilbert

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An invitation for you!


	Hello, MichaelQSchmidt. You're invited to join members. Happy editing! Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Autograph

Can I get your autograph please? --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't it unsigned? Anyway disregard it! --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK Review Request

Hey Michael! As you are a really helpful guy and also an administrator, I suppose you won't mind helping review Template:Did you know nominations/Leslie George Cole? Is that your cup of tea? Similarly, I would love to help review the Joel Gilbert nom, which has turned somewhat stale. (Unfortunately, you know I can't) Many thanks. Cheers. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 08:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey MQS- Thanks for dropping a Happy New Year note on my talkpage. I took a bit of an unscheduled wikibreak over November and the holidays to focus on job hunting. But it's good to be back!

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Proper response

Hey Michael, something to ask you since you have the experience. On a separate note, I review pending submissions at AfC. And just today (I think), some clown vandalizes my user page. I guess that he or she is angered by my (reasonable) declination of his/her submission. The user then proceeds to e-mail me this joke warning (which is ironical as he/she had received a warning for vandalism while I dont) It reads as follows.

Is this serious? "Bonkers the clown" rejected a posting of a legitimate person? I'm not sure if this is spam, or just a joke. I highly respect and regard Wikipedia, and I sincerely hope the integrity of the site isn't being compromised by a hacker of some sort. I intend to look into this matter with the full extent of my, and my fellow fans, resources. Please be advised that you are now under our surveillance, and will pursue further examination of this matter.

Urm, what would be the more appropriate way to respond? I do not wish for others to harbor resentment towards me. Or should I repost this on somewhere else? Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 10:31, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

If a one-time instance, silence (or asking input from another as you did) is the best response. So that I might better understand the instance, please send me the diff. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 11:07, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Found it all. Looks to have been gently handled by another. The editor is apparently brand new, but that is no excuse for vandalizing another's page in a fit of pique. If it happens again, this person will be facing a block to prevent further disruption. This person needs to spend time over at

WP:PRIMER. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.}

11:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, though its no longer one time as the user has been spamming my email inbox with joke rankings about me being a hacker. Sometimes these people make me sigh.

Jami Floyd

Hi Michael, the sandbox article on Jami Floyd looks thorough enough... Would you mind if it was moved to the main space? Or do you feel that it needs a lil more? Thanks. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 05:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I've asked for input from the closer[1] and the editors who commented at the old AFD 3 years ago when the original article was practically unsourced.[2][3][4][5][6] While general content is similar (same person so this makes sense), it's now looking far better. They closer grants that the thing is better than what was deleted, but he's suggesting I take it to DRV. I'm going to see if that is really a requirement for a return of an article that is not a CSD:G4 violation. And too, I have written to Ms Floyd directly to ask her for some clarification of awards and years, and she actually promised to respond by Monday night. Let's wait a day or two. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:15, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Alright, sounds like a plan to wait for a while. Lets hear from Jami. Although I can't compare for similarities between the 2010 and the 2013 versions (permission rights), I'm quite certain the latter version would be better. I wouldn't suppose that it's necessary to bring it to DRV, but then again, it won't hurt. Cheers Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 09:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes, and by the way, how did you manage to contact her? Would it seem like a good idea to also at the same time request for permission to use one of the photographs found on her website? Thanks and cheers. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 09:35, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

In appreciation

The Special Barnstar

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		In appreciation of your editing on the article Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days. Thank you. And Adoil Descended (talk) 00:58, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. And I do agree wholeheartedly with your closing summation. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Talkback

Thanks for the note regarding the Bansuri Guru The Film discussion. I'm always happy to reconsider my stance when new evidence comes up! Cheers, Gong show 05:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Considering the topic, I think this one will only get better. Best, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Buddha

I noticed you recently uploaded a pic of the DVD cover for the Gautama Buddha film. Nice touch up, but I'd suggest a file move (name change), as "Tathagatha Buddha.jpg" would usually be reserved for images in relation to Buddha himself (After all, that is one of his names)... And thus I'd suggest a name change to "Tathagatha Buddha film poster" or something. Nothing much, really, though I can't find any button that says "Move file". Is it due to permission rights, or should I be looking out for something else? Thanks. Cheers. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 13:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. easliy done. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:34, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I have...

...replied there. Good find! --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Romola Remus

Hello Michael,

I am back from a Wikibreak and ran across the article about Romolo Remus, the first film actress to portray Dorothy Gale, at AfD. I recommend keeping, and expanded the article a bit, and Clarityfiend graciously withdrew the nomination. I expanded it some more after that.

Knowing your deep knowledge of film history, I thought you might be interested in this actress, and might have access to other sources. Feel free to pitch in, and maybe we can get a "Did you know..." out of the deal. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Will do what I can, as soon as I can. Currently involved moving across town and my ability to get online is extremely limited. So much stuff to sort and pack... and toss after 20 years in one place. Yikes.Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 22:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem, Michael. Good luck with the move, and throwing stuff away.Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:00, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Interstellar

Hey, Michael! I was talking about Interstellar (a film in development with Nolan recently attached) with a friend today and remembered dealing with the topic back in 2006. Thought you'd like to see how I was in a related AfD during that time: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interstellar (film). I got a chuckle out of it, personally. :) Erik (talk | contribs) 21:32, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Shooting Star Productions

All done. Graham87 02:41, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with an editor?

Hi Schmidt! I've got a question- are you overly familiar with photographs in film articles? I've got a new user that's working on the article for

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11:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Forgive my talk page stalking, but here's my two cent's. As stated by film production expert Eve Light Honathaner in The Complete Film Production Handbook, (Focal Press, 2001 p. 211.):

"Publicity photos (star headshots) have traditionally not been copyrighted. Since they are disseminated to the public, they are generally considered public domain, and therefore clearance by the studio that produced them is not necessary."

Film industry author Gerald Mast, in Film Study and the Copyright Law (1989) p. 87, writes:

"According to the old copyright act, such production stills were not automatically copyrighted as part of the film and required separate copyrights as photographic stills. The new copyright act similarly excludes the production still from automatic copyright but gives the film's copyright owner a five-year period in which to copyright the stills. Most studios have never bothered to copyright these stills because they were happy to see them pass into the public domain, to be used by as many people in as many publications as possible."

So that said, the publicity photo most likely can be used when licensed correctly. In film articles, we can include not just photos of the set, but also key figures in the film (i.e. song composers, writers, director(s)). Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

We also see multiple websites reposting a photo of the director here. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

One example I can think of (for use of publicity pictures) would be Wacko Jacko's Childhood Flame. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Bonkers! I hate to be all needy and stuff, but can you help upload them? I'm sort of clueless at this stuff. The official film website has a lovely set of photos to choose from here, but I'm also concerned with the photos overwhelming the article since it's mostly a stub at this point. In any case, the publicity photo used wasn't really that great, in my opinion. (It's the main actor, I realize now.) It's a tiny black and white that doesn't seem to have come from the film itself, but was probably taken before the film started. I have to admit a preference for set photos, although that's ultimately a personal preference.
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12:05, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

A little better than a stub; start I would say. Here's what, I'll take a look... After I'm done with my homework and fried rice. :) Cheers, Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 12:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Joel Gilbert

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Removing an SPA tag

Maybe you can clear this up for me (I saw that you labeled a couple IPs SPAs on an AfD) - can editors remove an SPA tag placed by someone else, or is that considered removing someone's comment from the AfD? Inks.LWC (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

A SPA tag is a SPA tag. It is appropriate to so tag an anonymous IP that makes few or any edits outside a certain topic area, specially when the SPA is doing so to create a false consensus. It is inappropriate to remove such without explanation or due cause. Any particular one in mind? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:33, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

It's on the page you tagged. I had added them back after different IPs kept removing them without explanation, and I put the uw-afd template on the talk page, and another editor thought that was abusing talk page templates. I explained to him that my understanding of the refactoring AFD policy was that you can't remove an SPA tag if it was placed there and it pretty clearly applies, but I didn't actually see anything in writing anywhere. I told him I didn't really care if he removed the tags - I was just curious (and meant to post something on a talk page somewhere but forgot), but when I saw you add it and noticed you were an admin, I figured I'd ask. If you wanted to see the whole conversation it's at

User talk:PinkAmpersand#January 2013, and then there's some discussion in the edit summaries at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Menville. Like I said, I don't really care whether they're on that AFD - I think the closing admin will notice pretty easily what's going on with the IPs; I just wanted to know what the actual precedent was. Thanks for the help! Inks.LWC (talk

) 17:41, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Yup, it falls under removing someone else's comments. And yes, a closer will notice the SPA activity. What they fail to realize is that a whole slew of SPA anon IPs can say "delete per" till they're blue in the face, but a closer should/will pay attention to only those editors who make comments based upon policy and guideline. AFD is not-a-vote. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:45, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Right, and that's why I figured it wasn't a big deal to argue over. Life's too short to edit war over something that really doesn't matter. ;) Thanks again for the clarification though. Inks.LWC (talk) 17:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK

No probs, can you sort out Template:Did you know nominations/Ved Vejen, it hasn't exactly been reviewed properly.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:21, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a very clunky hook. I'll see what I might do. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Rizana Nafeeks' Image

Since 9 editors including 3 administrators(including Jimbo Wales) agreed that the image qualifies under fair use, I have added back the image to the page

Execution of Rizana Nafeek. User:Future Perfect at Sunrise

removed it. There is a revived discussion going on currently. Please let others know whether still you believe the Image has a Fair Use value?61.245.172.21 (talk) 15:08, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Schmidts' Primer

I have added your Primer for Newcomers to the Welcome that I use. Simple talk and description serve the new editor best. Thanks for you efforts in creating it. ```Buster Seven Talk 09:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Very cool. I wished to make things a little easier for the newbs. Hope it helps. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.}

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WP:A Primer for newcomers. Good to know. --Lexein (talk

) 15:15, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

...as confusing as this place can be for newbs... heck yes. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 15:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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Cookie Jar?

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A Good Day to Die Hard

Hi Schmidt. Happy Lunar New Year, regardless of whether you celebrate it. Do you think the rule of

WP:SPOILER does not apply for A Good Day to Die Hard? I wish to add the full plot, having watched it, but User:BattleshipMan disagrees, because it will "spoil the surprise for American viewers". What's your take? Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble)

07:29, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

What is your own take on

WP:FILMPLOT? Personally, I think for a major new release that is soon to make the rounds, that a plot should be minimalist and avoid blatant spoliers. We can give a summary overview of the film's main events, and avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, and technical detail. We can say enough to entice someone to want to learn more, but not pop any bubbles or ruin expectations. Once a film has been out for a while, additional information can be added. For A Good Day to Die Hard I would not want to learn prematurely that John McClain has regrown hair or if he actually dies at the end of the film. Consider for example The Cowboys... In years-later retrospect, it is appropriate to tell that John Wayne died in the course of protecting his charges, but when the release was brand new, such a spoiler could have ruined a viewer's anticipations. Sometimes, less is more. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.}

16:45, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I did follow FILMPLOT quite well enough, no bias, no technical details, no dialogues... Bruce Willis has not grown back hair, but as for death... The antagonists did die, as expected. Is that considered a spoiler? You know, maybe they should have kept the "Spoiler Warning' template. That way, readers would be further warned that they would be reading a potential spoiler. One example I can think of: Skyfall was released in UK before US, and the full plot was already revealed before the US release. Die hard 5 has already been released in many Asian territories, should we wait for the US release to reveal the "spoiler" parts? Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 02:09, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

It would seem that at the very least, the infobox needs correction to reflect the film's actual release date, and not only its anticipated American one. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:35, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Michael, could you clarify? When's the actual date? Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 14:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, its been dealt with. When I first looked at the article it only had the predictive US date. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 16:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Cheers, Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 02:23, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the matter of INHERIT and Brady Haran's AfD

Hello there MichaelQSchmidt, thanks for trying to fresh things up, but I'm already familiar with inheritance regarding notability, generally it is accepted that notability is not inherit. There is a case by case analysis to show if the notability is in fact inheritable when the the article's subjects has a dubious precedence. For instance lemme summon a past case, Rebecca Black's article was deleted, but allowed to be recreated, but many people questioned its existence due to recentism and that notability is not inherit. Friday had a massive repercussion, but Rebecca Black was not notable, but suddenly things changed, because she received a lot of media attention and coverage, on her, and not only on her single. This is the case here, Brady Haran has notable projects, but there is lack of substantial coverage on him, BLP doesn't accept inheritance a person must have reliable evidences that show that the subject is independently notable. Eduemoni ^↑talk↓ 05:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

As your final sentence appears to contradict existing BLP-related guidelines of

multiple reliable sources and thus meet the criteria of WP:N, how can they be notable but not he as their creator? WP:N instructs that in the absence of SIGCOV, "A topic is also presumed notable if it meets the criteria outlined in a subject-specific guideline listed in the box on the right." (the "box" contains a list of some subject-specific guidelines). Point being is that while SIGCOV of an individual is fine and dandy... in guideline and policy understanding that not all notable topics make headline or stay in the news forever, SIGCOV is not the sole manner by which notability may be determined. I certainly appreciate your strike-out at the aforementioned AFD, but I would like to explore this a bit more. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.}

05:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Joel Gilbert

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