User talk:Nick Moyes/Archive 1

Since you've obviously been able to find more sources than I have, perhaps you would consider improving the articles. Otherwise those that do not establish notability are likely to end up at AfD as well. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:15, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid this is a rather one-sided tirade that is quite inaccurate in places. Having created numerous articles over several year, I'm quite familiar with notability standards and that we don't "own" articles. My assessment is that, compared with other editors, AussieLegend has overtagged these articles and then rejected reasonable sources. As a result, I decided not to waste time adding references or further articles, because I reckoned there was every chance that AussieLegend would make a move to delete them, based on his unwillingness to cooperate in friendly discussion to help improve them. I have been proven right.

A word on infoboxes. There is a well tried system for importing and converting German infoboxes to avoid manually translating every parameter every time. Essentially you convert the German infobox to point to the English infobox, so the parameters display in English. Then you get a bot to substitute the infobox fully. This is done for mountain infoboxes and works well. It saves hours of nugatory work. {{

Infobox Schutzhütte}} is already a pivot table, but I haven't asked for the bot because, like I said, I judged I could be wasting a lot of time on articles that were on AussieLegend's radar to delete. Hope that helps. Bermicourt (talk

) 18:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

I really don't want to get into an argument with you on someone elses talk page but some of your comments just don't make any sense to me. It's clear that you don't understand the notability requirements because you've removed the notability tags from completely unreferenced articles that in no way demonstrate notabilty. Then you had to ask me how to address the notability problem when the template explained how to do just that. Claiming not to add citations to a page because you thought the page might be nominated for deletion makes absolutely no sense, for more than one reason. A page with no citations is far more likely to be deleted than one that includes citations. A page that includes citations that establish notability is more than likely to survive AfD. Prior to this AfD, in the 3 1/2 years since I created Infobox hut, how many of these articles have I nominated for deletion? The answer is precisely zero, so your concern is not supported by history. Instead I added maintenance tags requesting more references which, if anything, is a clear indication that I would prefer the articles to stay. As for my "unwillingness to cooperate in friendly discussion", exactly what discussion haven't I participated in? I answered your question (there was just one) on my talk page and I opened a discussion on your talk page regarding notability. I really don't understand why you would need a bot to substitute the 5 articles that you've created using Infobox Schutzhütte. A bot automatically substituted the four articles that you didn't bother substing yourself.[8][9][10][11] You don't need a bot to subst the template at all. Instead of typing "{{Infobox Schutzhütte" you type "{{subst:Infobox Schutzhütte" and save your edit, as explained in the template documentation. That substs the infobox without a bot. The same procedure is used for {{

Infobox Berg}}. And again, there was no indication at all that I wished to delete these articles. --AussieLegend (✉

) 20:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Gentlemen (I'm assuming you both are gentlemen) - let's see if we can find some common ground, shall we? It's clear we all care about improving Wikipedia's content, but maybe we should agree that you each approach matters somewhat differently. Forgive me if I don't spend time delving into the 'whys and wherefores' of an obvious disagreement in your approach to editing, or of infoboxes - it took me long enough to consider the issues and present my views on this one simple hut, without spending a whole lot more on enhancing the actual article (which might have been quicker, as it turns out). I think I've shown that this is entirely possible, and I've left enough links in my comments for Bermicourt to do so, which I hope he will in due course. I think the same approach could be taken on virtually all the other high mountain refuge articles, so I would like to request that AussieLegend does not attempt to put forward further articles for deletion of this type, please. I can't promise that these huts in the outlying Alps will be addressed anytime soon, as I can see that Bermicourt is active in other important areas of the Mountains of the Alps TaskForce, and I'm trying to do my bit in some areas, too, albeit as a relative newcomer here. But hopefully one or two of the challenged articles can be worked on in the near future to demonstrate that it is entirely possible to use high quality mountaineering guidebooks as sufficient secondary sources, and they really shouldn't be challenged as being basic tourist brochures and therefore insufficient. Responding to AfD's is very time-consuming and it does divert efforts away from other important contributions. It has taken me well over a full day of my time to deal with this one, and I don't want to spend any more time on discussing it.

I think it's already been agreed some while back not to add any new stubs or translations on alpine refuges without first ensuring good references are included, even if the subject does have one or more foreign language equivalents. (So, there goes my plan for creating a new article on the Refuge du Requin/Requin Hut above the Mer de Glace! It'll have to wait for a bit longer even though I know its notability can be demonstrated.) I don't think it's helpful to suggest, or possibly even threaten, that AfD's will be placed on future articles of this type if they don't get changed, but perhaps neither is it helpful to remove what some see as a useful and visible flag to show where further work is needed. I certainly don't see them as delayed detonators with an AfD at the end of them if an article doesn't get improved after a certain period of time, and I hope AussieLegend doesn't either. It would be very disruptive and indeed unhelpful if that were the approach taken. I'm not going to suggest that it's inappropriate to challenge articles about an area on the other side of the globe, though I do not want to see disagreements in approach becoming disruptive, for whatever reason to the work of the four editors currently signed up to support the Alps TaskForce. So, I shalln't be working on improving these articles myself, as was suggested, but am leaving that to others to follow up in the fullness of time. If I've irritated you both by the above remarks, it's possibly a good thing, and hopefully we can get some balance back into what we're all trying to achieve without too much more disruption, please.

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	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Five years ago today, Wikimedia UK and Derby Museums announced their collaboration (because someone had decided to take a punt). Out of this came a whole group of wiki-projects around the world. You were that guy! Thanks Victuallers (talk) 17:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you - I'm honoured. It was great to work with you, too, Roger. And five years later I'm more hooked on Wikipedia than ever!

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Re: Draft:Herbert Alexander Wahl

Hi Parkywiki,

I wouldn't give up easily on this article, if you're still inclined to bring it to article space; I think all botanical authors are inherently notable, as do some others. Here are some links for you to peruse, at your leisure, should you wish to. (I think they're all different from the ones you cited at the draft.)

1. https://www.barnesfoundation.org/assets/public/findingAids/jmffindingaid.html
    (Fogg may likely have mentioned Wahl, aside from his correspondences directly with him)
2. http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/archon/?p=collections/findingaid&id=85&q=&rootcontentid=683
    (same goes for Lincoln Constance)
    (both the above may not overlap with your already-cited Wahl correspondence, 1934-1974)
3. http://www.jstor.org/stable/2437081?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
4. https://www.idigbio.org/portal/records/f5a94fa5-d4f3-4576-9139-56bd98108697
5. https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Vascular_Flora_of_Pennsylvania.html?id=aVVW4tVmgOoC&hl=en
6. http://amerfernsoc.org/ffa/Fiddlehead%20Forum/FF%20Volume%201-10/v7no5AllPS.pdf
    (look for Wahl on p. 6, col. 2)
7. http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/EcoNatRes/EcoNatRes-idx?type=turn&entity=EcoNatRes.NAP*C06.p0153&id=EcoNatRes.NAPC06&isize=text
8. http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/Torreya_a_Quarterly_Journal_of_Botanical_Notes_and_News_Edited_for_the_v44_1000893380/101
    (to continue reading from here, you have to keep flipping to the next page ahead)
9. http://thirdworld.nl/chromosome-numbers-and-meiosis-in-the-genus-carex
10. http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/IND43968134/PDF
11. http://192.104.39.83/Person/10201?tab=names
12. http://192.104.39.83/Person/10201?tab=specimens

Many google hits seem to mention the Wherry, Fogg, Wahl work, and citations by other authors should count for something. I didn't do a google scholar search, but it could bring up more citations.

Hope some of these prove fruitful. Hamamelis (talk) 06:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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On 23 February 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mont Blanc massif, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that to hike round the Mont Blanc massif in the Alps is a 170-kilometre (110 mi) trip, usually taking 11 days, but top athletes run round the Tour du Mont Blanc circuit in just 21 hours? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mont Blanc massif. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello Parkywiki!

As I'm fairly new to Wikipedia and since you seem to be the last person to have edited one of the sources for references within the article The Economics of Ecosystems and Biodiversity, I would like you to inform that I believe, I've found two valid sources for reference #4: "Spash, C. L. (2011) Terrible economics, ecosystems and banking. Environmental Values 20(2): 141-145."

These sources are the publisher's website of the free html version of the aforementioned article, containing a link to a website providing the free pdf version for it as well^[1] and the website itself hosting the free pdf version of the article given above.^[2]

Furthermore, I would also like to suggest that in terms of consistency, the current given Format of reference #4:
"Spash, C. L. (2011) Terrible economics, ecosystems and banking. Environmental Values 20(2): 141-145."
corresponds to the formatting of reference #3:
"Spash, C.L. 2008. How much is that ecosystem in the window? The one with the bio-diverse trail. Environmental Values, vol. 17, no. 2, 259-284"
Thus the new formatting for reference #4 would result in:
"Spash, C. L. 2011. Terrible economics, ecosystems and banking. Environmental Values, vol. 20, no. 2, 141-145".
(I've tried to highlight the corresponding changes that I've made by writing in bold and italic combined.)

I'm sorry for the incovenience, but since the references section seems to have write protection by a cascade-protected template, I didn't know what to do or where and to whom else to turn to, as the article's talk page seemed orphaned and I wasn't sure whether or not to add this

{{edit template-protected|The Economics of Ecosystems and Biodiversity#References|answered=no}}

to the main article's new section page.

Many thanks in advance for your help/support.

Cheers,

Thmshb (talk) 13:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks,

Thank you

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Cheers for your work on the Skiway Monte Bianco! Zack (talk) 21:22, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

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Dear Parkywiki, You have now twice changed the spelling 'lisence' in a footnote to this article to the spelling 'licence'. Please note that the reason it has been spelled 'lisence' in this case is because the text you are changing is an exact quotation from an early 17th century marriage register in which this spelling is used. Other Abbreviations and latinizations of titles and names are also used in the same quotation, so it would be inconsistent to modernize this word only. The point of giving the quotation at all is to give the reader the opportunity to verify the original entry. I quite realize that the modern English spelling is 'licence', but the usage in this case is deliberate. For this reason I am about to revert your edit for a second time. I hope you will understand why. Thanks, and good wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 01:05, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, of course,

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Bless you for that! I have been adding to the C.T. Ingold article, which you are interested in.Eebahgum (talk) 22:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Great stuff. I'll be interested to check it out when you're done - Prof John Webster (who worked with Ingold) was my mycology professor at University!

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Dear Parkywiki, I have done about all I can on 'Career'. If you are a mycologist, you can probably enlarge the section on 'Contribution to Mycology', for the fungal business is far beyond my capability or understanding. John Webster's bit in 'Mycologist News' might be very helpful. I well (and fondly) remember the Birkbeck department and the excursions, especially some Easter trips which were the highlights of my Easter holidays from prep school. Eebahgum (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

@Eebahgum You've done a great job on this - it makes very interesting reading, indeed. Thanks for letting me know. I'm afraid, despite old Prof Webster's efforts, I never became a mycologist - vascular plants of Derbyshire is more my thing. A couple of suggestions - maybe split the very long sentence in the Birkbeck section, and how about an Infobox? I wonder if fair use policy would allow an image of the cover of one of his books? I've been trying to get the BSBI and the BMS to make some of their own images available on Wikipedia. I'll drop the BMS a tweet and a link to your enhanced article and see if they might respond.

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Hello Parkywiki.

Thank you for your work correcting spelling errors. I note that you changed "targetted" to "targeted" on Melaleuca huttensis. I think you will find that the correct spelling is "targetted" in the U.K. and hence, probably Australia. (Melaleuca huttensis is an Australian plant.) Here are a couple of interesting references: Wiktionary and Lists of common misspellings

Interestingly, the source I used for "A targetted flora survey was undertaken for...." has the spelling "targeted". A case of a Wikipedia page being more accurate than one of its sources, perhaps. Alas, no longer!

I also notice that earlier today you changed "transfered" to "transferred". A contradiction maybe? Or did you change it because "transfered" looks rong? Anyway, good luck. For me its the manenig taht metatrs, not the silenlpng - as lnog as we cmacmiounte.

All the best to you. Gderrin (talk) 06:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gderrin. Thank you for raising the issue over spelling. I agree with you that getting the meaning across clearly is most important, and also that spellings do vary between nationz. I should say that I don't take a strong stance on one particular spelling of a word - if the North Americans want to abuse modify the English language, I let them get on with it. I could pretend that I checked with my ridiculously heavy copy of Chambers 20th Century dictionary (New Edition 1972) which, on page 1381, gives the spelling of 'targeted' with only one 't', or that I had read this advice on the rules to apply to determine which words require A doubling of the consonant, and which, like targeting, do not.

Though both are factually correct, the truth is I have recently started using a Wikipedia tool called Lupin Live Spellcheck to check en masse the spellings of articles which have been recently edited. The link will take you to a list of common errors in spelling that it uses to offer corrections. It's that list that I use as my starting point for correcting typos. I then work by eye to assess whether the highlighted word is within a url, an image name, a foreign word, is proper name or has been helpfully flagged as 'sic' or uses the template 'notatypo'. After that I quickly assess whether the spellchecker is still likely to be right in flagging it up within the context of the sentence or paragraph (I don't read the whole article whilst doing bulk spellchecks). Whilst I would never knowingly spell 'targeted' in the publications I write as 'targetted', others might. And you're right, it is not really that important, although many of the other howlers I see here most certainly are. Feel free to change it back to the 'wrong' version (LOL), but be aware that I and other users may well repeat the edit correction when they use the tool in future, simply because we can't remember the names of the thousands of articles we have edited, unless they stand out. Though yours will now, of course!.

Curiously, I am more concerned that the automatic checker failed to highlight 'ciruclar in shape' within your article!

I also have a question for you: would it have helped had the Summary of the edit told you that this made with a spellchecker? I ask because I am collating feedback on its use, and suspected that knowing how the edit was done might help article editors understand why the change was made. However, I note the tools creator is no longer active, so input might not be acted upon, though it remains a very useful tool.

Note: I've read this reply back and, if it comes across as a bit condescending, that was not my intention.

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Great reply - thank you. I like your sense of humour - not at all condesending. And, I with you agree about North Americans, about the howlers you've corrected (although I think weird should be weerd or maybe weard) and "ciruclar in shape". That's a howler I'll certainly fix. I am very disappointed that you didn't read the whole fascinating article about Melaleuca huttensis or at least look at the images. I had to search for weeks to find that bloody plant. Answer to your question about spellchecker: Nope. That might have hurt my feelings even more! All the best to you.Gderrin (talk) 10:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

And thanks for yours, too. Actually, I looked at your article twice - the first time because I thought the scientific name looked like that of a european cockchafer, so was curious to see what it was about. I then also saw it was pretty well-written (being a member of the Plants Project myself, and author of a county flora). The second time I looked was after you messaged me - so I did see the photos, too. (I'd have used 'fruit' not fruits' in the caption, but that's really minor). I was disappointed it was about a western Australian species as my only knowledge of ozbot is through my local English hero

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More spelling- thanks for catching my idiotic 'epsiode' at Howard Bishop - any other observations or suggestions that might help avoid his deletion would be welcome- not that I have any special axe to grind about him (other than to wish not to feel I have wasted my time!), but it looks to me like a reasonably helpful collection of all the Bishop data I could find, and I'm sure that there are many articles about less noteworthy folk. Will try not to be tempted to help with things wikithespian in the future and stick to trains/ boats/ planes/ engineering and physics(!)Yadsalohcin (talk) 21:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome - I arrived at your new page simply because I was using an automated spell-checking tool (Lupin) referred to above. I knew nothing of Howard Bishop, but stopped to read the delete discussion out of curiosity, and am minded to oppose it as I then went away and checked a few links and found the (awful) film that he was in, noting he was 11th in the pre-film credits - two below

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Thanks again- with some extra parameters in the searches, some more came up largely as per your summary here, and further it allowed me to see his resumé page. Hmm, an awful lot of b-movie stuff, and a lot of 'non-starring' roles but that's where a certain US president came from so maybe that shouldn't be an automatic disqualification... But maybe it has just been a dreadful waste of time! Yadsalohcin (talk) 12:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I've been asked if I might organise an editathon there next month .... want to help? Victuallers (talk) 15:56, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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Prob. THE! Wright painting - I'm meeting the museum at 2 at the museum on Friday (29th). Im intending to be there at 1:30 (to look round) and I could meet you if you were available????? Sent email to you but not sure about address. R Victuallers (talk) 06:46, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

OK, Roger. I'm at work today, I'm afraid. I like the idea of spurring off from The Orrery. I've just checked and found your email, and read back thru the thread. It would certainly be helpful to know from Spencer et al what topics they think are under-covered on Wikipedia, and what resources they can provide to improve related content. I would particularly recommend that you ask for agreement to rephotograph the painting, putting a better colour-balanced, but not too high a res version on commons, to replace the current dim file would be good. We are often a bit touchy on image reprodiuction, so giving an assurance about good quality colour but low res image unsuitable for professional, commercial use would be good. It would be good to take close-ups of each element of the painting (e.g. Peter Perez Burdett, the philosopher etc being taken) - I do have a series of colour slides I took some years ago and could dig those out for a CC upload, but better to ask again and retake digitally. Also there's the signficant astronomical link of Wikipedia on the Moon and the significance of the orrery itself to consider. Jonaythan W. tells me that the mechanical orrery will be coming back on display in the future once they can find a restorer to service the clockwork mechanism.(I have some close-up video I took of the earth/moon/sun/mercury venus movements I must upload to Commons sometime.)

It might be good to ask my former colleagues if there they have other smaller, un-related topics they would like to see created or enhanced - just to give attendees something else to focus on should they wish. (The Museum page is still very non-represntative of the whole museum's public exhibition space. Photo opps? Anotherr idea I could suggest is linking artworks in Derby Museum that show Derbyshire landscapes ( Jo Wright, Goodey et al) - especially the Derwent Valley Mills - and comparing them to photos today. I have contacts in the county council's landscape team and the DVMills (Adrian Farmer) who might be interested in supporting that idea, if necessary. Hope these quick thoughts might help.

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All good suggestions Nick - sad that won't meet you again today. I notice that you have some nice resources to add and maybe we can do that as part of this event. Im thinking now that it will be in 3-5 weeks on a Saturday. Hope you will try and manipulate your diary so you can attend. If we are going to do something significant then I think the museum has to agree to do something sig as well. My email has my tel number... Victuallers (talk) 09:53, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Partywiki, do you realize what you are reverting? Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

My sincere apologies - I clearly reverted back to the wrong version in an attempt to remove recent vandalism but I failed to check back to ensure that my edit achieved the desired effect. So the answer to your question is an honest 'no' - and I will not make any similar reverts in future if I am pushed for time as I was yesterday. Best wishes

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Thanks for the corrections. Hispanicultur (talk) 13:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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