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Hi Onel5969,
Sorry for my late response. I'm a great fan of microtonal music and I think Sander Germanus is a composer who is one of a kind. So I don't understand why my article is rejected. You write that my article is not adequately supported by reliable sources. But there are enough resources below the text, as far as I can see. So can you tell me what's the problem? Do you need more links? There are many (not always in English), so here are just some other resources: www.recordsinternational.com/cd.php?cd=08N112 www.etcetera-records.com/album/158/lunapark Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks in advance.
TijsAmsterdam72
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sander_Germanus--TijsAmsterdam72 (talk) 11:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi TijsAmsterdam72 - You need in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources. Your sources are either supplied by the artist, or don't have editorial oversight. Onel5969 TT me 00:19, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 14:06:03, 1 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Dengland123
- Dengland123 (talk · contribs)
Hi Onel5969. I really could use some help. Do you know of someone that can help be build out the Timothy Seelig page that did not pass inspection. Surely someone has the time and resources to help me with this project. I do appreciate your help. My email address is [email protected]. Thank you.
Dengland123 (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Dengland123 You can always go to the Teahouse and ask for someone to help (a link was put on your talkpage). Or you could go to Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters. I've put some links on the draft which you could read and might help. Onel5969 TT me 00:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Comments on editing?
Dear Onel5969, I revised my draft contribution about Merrill Corporation and resubmitted it on March 3. I'm curious if these revisions are in the ballpark, and if the submission is closer to approval. This is based on my assumption that you're going to review it again.By the way, how many submissions are you reviewing/editing a day? And you're doing this all completely for free, correct? Thank you for your help and patience, StephenDupont55403 (talk) 14:29, 1 April 2016 (UTC)StephenDupont55403
- Hi 00:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Reversion
Hi Onel5969: A recent edit you performed here has been reverted. You may want to check it out. North America1000 15:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Cute, Northamerica1000. Thanks for the chuckle! Happy April Fools Day! Onel5969 TT me 00:44, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. North America1000 01:57, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
DYK for Phoenix, Arizona
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Sorry if this is a repeatHi Onel5969, I am still getting used to Wikipedia and the input fields don't look like standard E-mail drafts, so I apologize if this is a repeat message. Thank you for taking the time to review and consider the entry I wrote and submitted. I am a full-time professional mentalist with no side job. All of my income is generated from entertainment. Yet, I am not submitting any entry for myself because I do not consider myself big enough. I wouldn't just submit an entry of someone who is not massively influential and among the most skilled on the planet. Oz Pearlman is honestly is among the top performers on the planet. He is currently the most famous mentalist in the United States of America because he just won 3rd Place on America's Got Talent. I am not receiving a penny to create his Wikipedia entry. I cited sources that prove he was on America's Got Talent and a number of other national TV shows. He travels the world in airplanes delivering world class, original art (sometimes for 5 figures per gig) and just won 3rd Place on AGT. He was even on national TV the same day I submitted the original entry. He's HUGE. Even without fame, this guy was honestly the real deal and far more skilled than a plethora of people who already have a Wikipeida entry. What revision(s) must I make to have the entry accepted? Is there any chance you can generously donate your time and talents to modify mistakes in the entry and submit it? Thank you for any help. Cybernavigator (talk) 20:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC) Changes to Don College pageThankyou, Onel5969, for your interest in the Don College page. I noticed that you have undone my minor edits and admit that as a new wikipedia member I am guilty of not providing enough supporting information. These are my changes with more detailed comment: Change of location from Don to Devonport The college is named for its position on The Don River. Not because it is in the suburb of Don. The Don township is on the other side of the river. Don College is more accurately described as Devonport. The locals refer to this area as Devonport. Change of TQA to TASC Last year the Tasmanian Government disbanded the TQA and replaced it with TASC. (There were other structural changes to the authority which are not relevant here.) If you go to the the TQA web site you will see that it actually loads the TASC pages. Change of name to Douglas Douglas is a Polar Bear, but he is refered to universally at the college as Douglas the Badly Behaved Bear. He appears at school assemblies and is renowned for his behaviour giving awards to students. If you find these explanations satisfactory could you please undo your changes. --Squeaky1957 (talk) 21:54, 1 April 2016 (UTC) Ryder Cooley NotabilityHello Onel5969: Are the references the main issue here? BTW, in passing, I would argue that IMDB, while not being a scholarly journal, is "notable" and frequently referenced in our culture. I'm not quoting opinion from IMDB, but an entry's existence, which is an entirely different matter. An entry in IMDB, in and of itself, while not proving a popular following, indicates an extent of work. Re the references by the artist (her CV) merely note facts, i.e. awards and "notable" residencies: Is it a matter of not trusting the author as a valid reporting source, i.e. the CV? The notion of "notability" has to be either subjective (in which case each examiner maintains individual biases), or, objective, in some achievable measurable way. I'm left with two impressions: (1) that Ms. Cooley is truly "not notable" (in the eyes of Wiki) regardless of my efforts to create the entry, or (2) Ms. Cooley is truly notable, but I haven't provided adequate references, or, have failed in some formal sense. I will assume that Wikipedia's editorial staff is sufficiently open-minded to accept evidence of Ms. Cooley's acclaim and that I must persist in making a better article. Please let me know if this assumption is dead wrong. For example, if there is cultural bias/subjectivity afoot rather than mere insufficiency of objective reference, then an article's author should know whether this is a feckless (worthless) exercise. Perplexed, But I will persist in improving. Slachutm (talk)
Sarah IdanHello, I recently submitted an article and you have rejected it stating the reference are not notable. Ishtar TV is a well known TV network and on satellite in the Middle East and every where on Nilesat. in fact you have a page on wiki for them yourself https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar_TV. And here is their website http://www.ishtartv.com/en/ All the other news websites are also notable. I see your argument was unreasonable I need further explanation... Thanks New Denver skyline photographI have added another new Denver skyline picture to replace the outdated one. This is a high-res picture (3672 x 1688) so I believe it is acceptable. Please let me know your opinion.
Article Submission QuestionsHi Onel5969, Thank you for taking the time to read my submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hazlerigg-Rutland_Hall Firstly I want to say that Reference 1 and 2 are completely different bodies. One is the university and the other connected to the students union. The bit I find hard to understand is that when I compare my references to other articles they seem really good. The first article on your list of pages for example seems as notable as my submission and the references appear to all be the same database. I realise that my references arent the best but I don't see how pages like this one and Towers hall (link further down) are better and I think that's where I'm in need of guidance. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_UCLA_Bruins_football_team
Thank you in advance for you help. Joeys07 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeys07 (talk • contribs) 07:19, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
hello, i created a page for one of University of Cincinnati best players college players in school history and it was declined. I am unsure what else I need to reference or quote that he was a notable college athlete and gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aweb17 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC) I made some edits showing that this person is a notable college athlete and individual, not just a member of a team, along with references. Please let me know what else I can do for you to accept this page. Thank you
Request on 16:24:43, 2 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 63.240.97.125
63.240.97.125 (talk) 16:24, 2 April 2016 (UTC) Submission questionsHi Onel5969, Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hazlerigg-Rutland_Hall The "Towers Hall" page you've just proposed for deletion is a piece of classic archietecture for the east midlands so I would argue against deleting that. I don't see why a page on this hall is not notable as thousands of prospective students will be searching to find out information on these every year. I can't understand why https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_UCLA_Bruins_football_team is notable but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hazlerigg-Rutland_Hall is not? Joey
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21:13:56, 2 April 2016 review of submission by Englishshaun
Request on 21:31:11, 2 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Englishshaun
Please advise if there is anything else that I can do to improve it to the required standard. Many thanks, Englishshaun (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 05:56:56, 3 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Kashmirlife142260
Please check these ref Govt officials a click away courtesy Kashmir teen’s website
Kashmirlife142260 (talk) 05:56, 3 April 2016 (UTC) Please unblock article so I can edit it immediately.
Need help with my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mahabaleshwar_Morjehi , I am new to writing and need help with my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mahabaleshwar_Morje. I have some challenges in terms the definition of notable.. Can you explain the specific evidences you require for this article? Thanks and Regards Pradnyam (talk) 19:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC) Pradnyam
00:46:11, 4 April 2016 review of submission by Brianne Pack
Hi Onel5969, I was wondering if you can be more specific for me? I worked very hard on this article and have 2 or 3 more in the works. I want to submit quality work and I aim to please. I've looked at many articles about people like Mr. Campion with (what appear to be ) far fewer credible references. I did update somethings last night after I submitted. (I don't think that I added new material, but I changed the way my reference links were written - I'm not sure if that will make a difference in your evaluation.) In any event - I had 35 references. Of those there were: 8 Online articles 5 Newspaper articles 5 Magazine articles 1 Patent Summary 2 Blogs 5 Actual Promotional Video of business or concept 1 Social Network 5 Wiki articles and references 3 Websites Some mention Mr. Campion specifically and others simply talk about his work and/or his companies. Although I didn't use it as a "reference" I do have his IMDB page under "External Links" Mr. Campion's IMDB page will verify a dozen or so of his accomplishments? Should I reference and link these? Also there is a source called AllMusic - He has a page here, but it has not been updated - Should see about having it updated as well and using it as a reference? Here is my belief - Mr. Campion has made significant contributions to the music industry, as an innovative manufacturer of music products (musical instruments). He is responsible for new methods of design and process that changed price points and manufacturing on products worldwide. He built a $20M business that changed the direction of the retail music industry. The brand name he chose was quite a "comeback story" for the well known, missed and admired "Danelectro." This was an interesting and noteworthy story as it touch and affected so many musical icons - Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Tom Petty, Carlos Santana, Prince, Aerosmith, Eddie Van Halen and on and on - all contacted Campion at Daneletro to buy his products. This makes him noteworthy. Before Danelectro, he had written and recorded numerous radio commercials for companies like Toyota, Honda, Century 21, etc. He's played with Jan & Dean, The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson. He's designed live entertainment shows for Disney. Has produced television pilots with John Stamos for Disney Many of the songs that he wrote or sang on have been in top television shows and movies. (Legally Blondes, One Tree Hill, According To Jim) He has developed software and has a pending patent that companies like Pandora are considering. This all seems very noteworthy to me. The references are unbiased and span more almost 2 decades. Please let me know (as specifically as you can), where I should go from him. I am eager to make a strong an credible article. Thank you for your help! Brianne Draft:Michael_Campion_(musician/entrepreneur)} Brianne Pack (talk) 00:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Draft:Demand ControlIn your comments in Draft:Demand Control, you said I need inline sources. What does that mean? BillSkowronnek (talk) 12:03, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, onel5969. I re-edited it, and believe it fits the requirements. 12:08:06, 4 April 2016 review of submission by Vivekpahwa
{{SAFESUBST:Void| what exactly is wrong with the article - we are still not sure - because we see other similar articles e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FindYogi on wikipedia
Aamir Ali ShahKashmirlife142260 (talk) 14:10, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Hello dear can you please check this draft now i have added a lot of information. I have added many links. Here is the draft Draft:Aamir_Ali_Shah Thank You.
Short Biography of José Gros-Camisó not consideredHi!: I was indicated better having from you a comment about the non-notorius nature of the proposed short biography of José Gros-Camisó, an Spanish Communist Activist, sorry for my inital mistakes; if you want making any suggestion, perfect, if not, perfect too. Thanks, have a good academic year, regards, + Salut--Caula (talk) 22:29, 4 April 2016 (UTC) Request on 05:31:25, 5 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Nairji
I had submitted by first article "Gitanjali Sinha", the idea was to enlighten users about the achievements about this individual but unfortunately it got declined. Need your inputs in gettig this included. Kindly guide Nairji (talk) 05:31, 5 April 2016 (UTC) Nairji (talk) 05:31, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Question about reliable sourcesDear Onel5969, I understand your point. So in that sense I don't know if they're reliable either. Maybe I will use some other references which are clearly independent and rewrite the article a little. But frankly, there isn't a lot in English which has editorial oversight. So I have a question: Can I use reliable sources written in another language than English? This would make it far more easy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sander_Germanus--212.64.20.126 (talk) 11:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 14:22:57, 5 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Balamani123
Your GA nomination of Edward CronjagerThe article good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Edward Cronjager for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Johanna -- Johanna (talk ) 02:21, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
One other questionHi Onel5969, Great that I can use reliable sources written in another language. I checked your link (thanks!), but now I think it will take some more time to write a new article. So probably the original article (which I uploaded last month) will be removed in a few days, which would be fine actually. My question is: Do I have enough time to write a new article? And can that be weeks later from now? (I'm a little busy lately, that's why...) Best! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sander_Germanus--212.64.20.126 (talk) 10:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Miklos VetoDear Onel, Regarding the notability of philosopher Miklos Veto (Link to draft page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Miklos_Veto): You asked for further demonstration of the relevance of academic notability criterion: Academic Notability: Criterion 3: "The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society for which that is a highly selective honor (e.g., the IEEE)." He is an "external member" of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Academy_of_Sciences) He is a "member" of the Catholic Academy of France. (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Académie_catholique_de_France) Both of these are "highly selective and prestigious scholarly societies" to which he has been elected. General notability: Criterion for "Any Biography" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANYBIO) Criterion 1: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times." He has also been awarded the merit of Officer of the National Order of the Republic of the Ivory Coast for his service to that nation. This is the highest award the country may give to a person: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Order_of_the_Ivory_Coast I would finally like to add a supplementary criterion for academic notability: his books have been translated into Japanese, English, German, Italian, and Portuguese, (as noted in the bibliography section of his page) Thank you. Wihackett (talk) 10:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 12:52:52, 6 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Joeneanor
Dear Reviewer 1. You ask for the citations/sources to be set out in line with WIKI policy for the draft WIKI entry for Niall MacMahon. For me this will be technically difficult. 2. So before I further revise the draft entry it would be really helpfully if you could confirm that Niall MacMahon now meets WIKI notability criteria. As you can see from the draft entry, his work has been endorsed by UK publication New Musical Express and Irish publication Hot Press, both of which have their own WIKI entries. Furthermore, Niall's work was produced by the renowned Phillip Chevron, who also has his own WIKI entry. Many thanks Joe Neanor Joeneanor (talk) 12:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC) Joeneanor (talk) 12:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Undeleting User:Athomeeditor/sandbox (G 13 (TW))Hi, I wanted to restore my sandbox, deleted for not being used for six months. I intend to use it soon. I would like to edit out my mistakes, but no longer have the 23,000 of characters I typed in about Brad Myers (which was in my sandbox). I responded to the message from the admin (not you) within two hours, but it was already too late. I apologize for leaving it so long, but I didn't realize it would disappear. I tried to contact the admin listed, 09:57, 6 April 2016 Sphilbrick (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Athomeeditor/sandbox (G 13 (TW)) but was unable to find a message link on his Talk page. Also, I requested an Undeletion G13. Thank you so much for looking at this, and hopefully helping me! Athomeeditor (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, Onel5969! I'll be patient.Athomeeditor (talk) 23:22, 7 April 2016 (UTC) Query on Citations?Thank you for your input Sir. I am in the process of rewriting the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gitanjali_Sinha , in the same context, as you had reviewed it earlier, would like to check if the citations provided are notable enough. I understand that the usage was improper because of an unintentional "Citations Overkill" practice. Wasn't completely aware of it. Will take care in the revised article.
However, would request a response from you on the quality and notability of citations used. Have tried to use the best of information and publications available but would be grateful if you could guide on the same. Nairji (talk) 06:48, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Sir! I am happy to be in touch with you for a simple reason that Wikipedia basics were never made so elaborate and thoughtful before, specifically from my academic interest viewpoint. I would try my best to write and submit a piece that is worthy enough to be included in the article space, however I completely understand that getting it included or not would be a virtue of the content-piece adhering to the Wikipedia guidelines. Thanks again, highly appreciate your guidance. Nairji (talk) 06:15, 11 April 2016 (UTC) Request on 10:15:11, 7 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 117.239.137.177
Thank you 117.239.137.177 (talk) 10:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I will be here not spaming, promise it. Vishwa Vidyapiith (talk) 15:14, 8 April 2016 (UTC) Master & DynamicHi. Thanks for reviewing Draft:Master & Dynamic. Can you tell me specifically what reads like an advertisement so I can edit accordingly? (If you look at the edit history you'll see that I went back again and again to remove what I thought might be perceived as hype.) And again, thank you. It sat for a long time. JSFarman2 (talk ) 12:38, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 13:31:21, 7 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Coachjohnmckee
Hi, made some changes to the article and have already added the references that I use to create it. Please, I would like to know if it works like this. Thank you. Coachjohnmckee (talk) 13:31, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
16:29:46, 7 April 2016 review of submission by Raophi
Thanks for your time to review the submission. I have now updated the references section and hopefully you will find more value in the profile of Smt. Usha Datar. Smt. Usha Datar is a very accomplished, recognized and felicitated Artiste in karnataka. It's just that given her elderly status, she's not been very active and visible on the new online media. But, if you would do a search on net for "kalamandalam usha datar", you will find many places where she has been recognized and acknowledged as a "Guru" by many of her disciples. Additionally, Couple of references I'll provide here (you can search her name) where she has been felicitated or mentioned regarding her awards: http://karnatakatemplesyatra.kar.nic.in/homepage/html/Karnataka/culture2.htm http://www.bellevision.com/belle/index.php?action=topnews&type=145 I hope this helps support her qualification and you would now approve the submission. Thanks, Raophi (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for your helpful answer at the Teahouse! Elsa Enchanted (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2016 (UTC) |
- Hi Elsa Enchanted! No worries. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Happy editing! Onel5969 TT me 15:04, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
How to cope as an contributing editor
How did you face the rejection of all those articles you have created. The time you have spend...and the response you got...etc. I would like to know how you keep it up. 117.241.21.168 (talk) 20:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)117.242.253.32 (talk) 17:20, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi WP:RS, other times it's wikilinking, sometimes its article creation, even if it's a stub, in order to get rid of a redlink. The majority of the articles I created are either stubs or start class. Even though something is notable, and many times it's automatically notable, but there aren't a lot of sources out there with info on the subject. For example, a lot of my populated places are mere stubs, but they are as fleshed out as I can make them. I always add an infobox, and put as much info in it that I can glean from credible sources. Sometimes I create a stub with the intent to go back and flesh it out, as I did with a lot of film articles. Now I'm going back and trying to get most of them to at least C class. A lot of my work involves anti-vandalism. Fourth, and most importantly, try not to get caught up in the drama. It's easy to get your nose out of joint, to take something personally. I do. But when I do, I walk away. After giving it some thought, I may or may not respond, but I try to do so civilly. Lastly, learn the rules. There aren't many, but the ones that exist, exist for a reason (notability, reliable sources, bios of living people, civility). And try and learn the formatting techniques. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me20:06, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you.117.215.195.159 (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 14:29:52, 13 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Bibliothecarian
Hello! Thank you for taking the time to review my article on Arthur L. Goldstein. I had a couple of follow up questions that shouldn't take too much time to answer (I hope!).
First, the issue of notability has come up and the need for independent sources to demonstrate that. My sources range from Boston Globe, NYT, Fortune, some books but many of the articles are older and not readily available online since they are hiding behind a paywall. I've looked at other comparable Wikipedia entries for and I confess I see some that are clearly better and some that are not as robust so I am not sure what the elusive element is in my article. Do you have any suggestions about what I might be missing?
Second, the company, Ionics, was at the forefront of a sustainable technology for the desalinzation process. With currently issues like climate change and population pressures, this technology will likely garner more attention than ever before. I notice Ionics doesn't have a page, however. Does this affect Goldstein's notability issue?
Thank you for your time. I appreciate your insight!
Regards, B. Bibliothecarian (talk) 14:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi other stuff exists. WP is run by volunteers, and there's a lot of crap out there. That being said, if you can find an article about a similar subject, that is rated GA or FA, those are the articles you want to emulate. They are "Good" or "Fine" quality articles.
- Second, some folks confuse "accomplished" with notable. This is a pretty easy thing to confuse, but the two are not synonymous. You can be accomplished, but not notable (which I would currently put Goldstein in, at the moment), and likewise you can be notable without being accomplished (think of the stupid Kardashian clan). One of the weaknesses of WP is that it bases the ability to enter an article on notability, not accomplishment. It's a necessary weakness, however, since it is run by volunteers, and notability is easier to determine than accomplishments. And the baseline for notability is whether or not there have been several (usually at least 3) in-depth articles written on the subject from independent, reliable, secondary sources (usually books, magazines or peer-reviewed journals).
- Sources do not need online access, that simply makes it easier for reviewers and researchers to check the veracity of the article. But if you do, please make sure to include all relevant information as per WP:CIT.
- Third, no, it makes no difference about the company, since notability is not inherited. However, if the company is notable, that wouldn't hurt. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:15, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
01:16:04, 14 April 2016 review of submission by Mdragoiu
Dear Onel5969, I have revised the biography to show credible "non-biased" notable sourced newspapers with citations. Will you please kindly review and accept or advise any changes needed in order to proceed? I greatly appreciate all of your help in advance. Warmest Personal Wishes, Monique (Mdragoiu (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC))
Clumsiness
This edit was utterly misguided and close to vandalism. You could see what you had just done. Why did you not simply reverse the move? Your speedy tag on Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions-recent/5 was equally wrong. I suggest you find out how this page combination works before you make any more intemperate deletion proposals. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:27, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi RHaworth - Obviously I didn't see it that way, especially since there were two "drafts" very similarly created. I thought that the editor had simply copy paste from Teahouse and created a draft article somehow (hence my edit summary). Still not sure exactly what happened to make them appear as drafts awaiting for approval. But thank you so much for AGF, and your wonderful, pleasant and civil tone. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 18:43, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
17:39:51, 14 April 2016 review of submission by ToyFJ
Hello, can you please advise on how this article might be improved? It seems to be more notable and better referenced than the vast majority of company articles I have read. Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aware,_Inc ToyFJ (talk) 17:41, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi other stuff exists, and isn't valid in this instance. Second, your article suffers from two issues. First, it's promotional. Be wary of phrases like "Aware's many innovations", stay away from thoughts and intents - simply state facts. Also, many of the assertions you make in the article are unsourced. After the many innovations remark, for example, you provide a list of accomplishments, without sourcing. H. L. Resnikoff can't be used, since he appears to have some relationship to the company. Second is notability. What you need are independent, reliable sources which talk in-depth about the company. Right now, you do have those types of sources, but their coverage is more of a routine nature (e.g. they sold this, they bought that). Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me20:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for Correcting me Sir
Dear One15969,
I have made the corrections to the Draft:Purplehed_Records
I request you to kindly check, if it meets the guidelines now and I am really sorry for my mistake, Its my first article, thank you for the patience. Feel free to give any constructive criticism as I have long way to go in order to Understand Wikipedia :) I assure I will do my best to correct myself.
Thanks and Best Regards Catrat999 (talk) 12:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Catrat999 - still has a pretty big neutrality/informalness issue. But you've already resubmitted, so lets let another editor take a crack at it. Onel5969 TT me 02:16, 19 April 2016 (UTC)\
Thank you Onel5969 Sir, So sorry to disappoint you for the second time, With this I clearly conclude I need more examples to understand this rule. I will check for help at Teahouse to fix neutrality issue, meanwhile if any update appears on my draft from another editor would you be interested in reviewing it again especially once I fix issues given by others too? I appreciate your time for guiding me . Thanks for help. Best Regards Catrat999 (talk) 13:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Rigobert Roger Andely
Hello,
The biography i've submitted is about a well known minister in the Republic of Congo. As i mentioned in the draft, his predecessor and his successor are already on wikipedia, so i don't get why he shouldn't be. Thanks to take a second look at it. page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rigobert_Roger_Andely 01021981aka (talk) 22:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)01021981aka
00:18:42, 18 April 2016 review of submission by 75.165.32.149
I modeled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jon_Lewis_(cartoonist) on the Wikipedia pages of other cartoonists who are contemporaries of Jon Lewis. I still don't understand why they are all considered important enough to be included in Wikipedia, but Jon Lewis is not. I have provided more references for Jon Lewis than are listed for David Lasky, for example.
I have added two more references and would like to have this content re-reviewed. Thank you.
I'm adding an addendum to this note because I have now had time to read your talk page and learn that the "other stuff" argument is not acceptable. I have read guidelines and followed them as well as I am able. Unfortunately, I still don't understand how a published book listed as among the best on TIME.com is not notable.
Thank you for your patience with me.97.126.21.19 (talk) 02:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi. The Time listing shows notability for the book, but an author has to have more than one best seller. Onel5969 TT me 02:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 05:12:22, 18 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Wikiuser music
Dear Onel,
Thanks for your review of my article draft : Rupak Kulkarni
I have collected few articles in the form of pdf. Can I send it to you ? Also note that top Grade artist of All India Radio is very rare in India and its already accomplished by Rupak Kulkarni. Fortunately I also have copy of the letter from Akashwani (All India Radiio). I can send that copy as well to you if you are fine with that.
Looking forward for your reply. I have edited article to more neutrality based on suggestions from Teahouse team.
Thanks and regards, Amit Wikiuser music (talk) 05:12, 18 April 2016 (UTC) wikiuser_music
Wikiuser music (talk) 05:12, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 15:48, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Question regarding "edit" tab/feature to edit articles
Hi Onel5969,
I notice I am unable to edit entries and AfC submissions using the Edit tab. This seems to have happened just four days ago --- before that, there appeared an "edit" tab at the top right side of my screen, to make edits easy. Now it is gone! Instead, I only see an "Edit source" tab, which I can use to make edits but is much more cumbersome and difficult than using the easy editor "Edit" tab feature.
Have you ever encountered this problem when editing? If so, any advice/suggestions on what to do?
Cheers, ChopSticksChan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:09, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
While all are in agreement that an article on the projected 2017 film is
- Hi WP:GNG. I think the work done on the article is admirable, but not enough to sway my !vote. Thanks for the heads up, however, and take care. Onel5969 TT me15:57, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, if you look at what was taken to AFD as premature for a 2017 film, and then compare it to the one now about a released 2016 film, it's kind of easy to see the article's focus has changed. And looking beyond what was used, I am able to see more than one source speaking toward the topic directly and in detail. So I believe it is a suitable stub... but maybe that's just me. Thank you though and have a great day. Schmidt, Michael Q.18:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- IE: To meet WP:NF, I see we have multiple more-than-trivial coverage which addresses the topic directly and in detail: International Business Times, Entertainment Weekly, I09, Comicbook.com, MoviesRoom (Poland). Coming Soon, Crowdfund Insider'', Deadline, Da Endgadet (German), Journal Du Geek (French), Observatorio Do Cinema (Portuguese), Sensacine (Spanish), Tomatazos (Spanish), and more... but maybe that's just me. Schmidt, Michael Q.18:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, if you look at what was taken to AFD as premature for a 2017 film, and then compare it to the one now about a released 2016 film, it's kind of easy to see the article's focus has changed. And
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08:21:25, 20 April 2016 review of submission by Mara.ispas
- Mara.ispas (talk · contribs)
Hi, please can you inform me specifically which sources you are refering to in the draft Henley & Partners Visa Restrictions Index page? I will apreciate any advice and help you can provide in order to get this page live. Thank you!
Mara.ispas (talk) 08:25, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Mara.ispas - you've already re-submitted, so I'll let another reviewer take a crack at it. Onel5969 TT me 16:00, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
11:06:01, 20 April 2016 review of submission by 217.156.212.1
Hello,
Could you give some advice/support on how to improve the notability of this submission? Following previous feedback we added a number of external references to the Victim Awareness Course in the media and reports but we've received the same feedback about the references not showing the subject's notability.
Any advice you can give on how to improve this will be gratefully received!
Thanks
- Hi. There are two issues with the draft. First is the absence of independent, in-depth articles about the course from reliable sources. Right now you have 3 references, and 2 are from the organization itself. Second, the article is written from a non-neutral, informal point of view. Avoid commentary, don't tell us intentions or thought processes. Just state facts. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Romeo Mancini
Hi Onel5969,
I have added many notes to the draft about Romeo Mancini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Romeo_Mancini, and eliminated the terms that I thought weren't neutral enough. Could you please tell me, before I submit it again, if it is ok now? If not, could you please indicate me what exactly is still not good, so I change it? Thank you for your help, Anna Lisa --Anna Lisa33 (talk) 11:50, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Anna Lisa33 - it's not just words or phrases, it's the entire tone of the article. You're not writing a story, you're writing an article. An encyclopedia article. Take this phrase: "In the years before the outbreak of the Second World War, Mancini attended the Accademia di Belle Arti di Perugia. There, Mancini studied and met another student who also became an artist, Leoncillo Leonardi. Some years later, while recalling the period he spent with Mancini at the Accademia di Belle Arti di Perugia, Leonardi wrote:" Very informal, telling a story. It could be: "Prior to World War II, Mancini attended Accademia di Belle Arti di Perugia, where he began a friendship with Leoncillo Leonardi." See the difference? Right now, the article is written in that mode. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 18:54, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Onel,
- Yes I Have understood, I think I had worked on that, that phrase you mentioned has disappeard a long while ago. I think I have changed a lot on the tone. Why did you mentioned me a phrase that is not anymore in the draft? Could you please have a look now since I think I have reworked on the phrases that sounded like a story and not an article tone? What I am not sure about, and if u are referring to this as well is about the painting description. But I guess for artists this is present in each wikipedia article. Could you please have a look now?
Anna Lisa33 (talk) 08:29, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, my bad! That phrase was still there!!! anyway ehm yes I guess I have a problem here. I can see a bit of difference, but I guess mine wasn't badly written or informal..... I guess it was nicer actually. I am seriously stating to be afraid that I am not going to make it. I mean why it sounded like a story and not an article? which kind of newspaper do you read? Just kidding! I guess I need serious help here. Kind regards, Anna Lisa33 (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Anna Lisa33. You have done a lot of work on the article, and now there appear to be at least 2 editors who are assisting you on re-crafting the article, both of whom are very good editors. Listen to their advice, look at the edits they make. I think the article will make it now, after some more work with some of the remaining issues. Good luck, and don't be afraid to ask questions. Onel5969 TT me 13:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Onel, Thank you! ok, I will do my best! Anna Lisa33 (talk) 15:16, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Geanna Merola
Hello, In the page you rejected I had added many references and believe that everything is cited and should be published. Can you please let me know specifically what changes need to be made in order for approval? The draft is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Geanna_Merola Thank you in advance. Toulatoula (talk) 13:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Toulatoula
- Hi Toulatoula - I didn't go through each of your references, but the vast majority of them are not independent of the subject (e.g. her website, brookdalecc.edu, wbjb.org, drumthwacket, bahdeebahdu, printcenter, inliquid), Trove doesn't mention her, and the Asbury Park article is a brief mention of her. In addition the endless lists of non-notable stuff make her look even weaker. Only the 2 NJ State things are worth anything from the grants section, the entire professional invitations needs to go; I'd pick the 5 most prestigious solo exhibitions, if there are 5; same with the group exhibitions; the entire articles/etc. section needs to go; and the vast majority of the permanent collections section needs to go. Any that remain need sources. Bottom line, however, is that you're confusing accomplished with notable. To show notability you need at least 3 in-depth articles about her from independent, reliable sources. Right now you have zero. Onel5969 TT me 19:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 14:06:41, 20 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Jeffpost
Hello Onel5969! I am writing you about my recent article submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Petros_Stathis that you rejected. Could you give me specific examples about what I should change in my Wiki? I think I have already included references to reliable, substantive news coverage of the subject. If one of my references refers something that it can be a "peacock" term I cant use it? I should paraphrase it? For example, in my Wiki of Petros Stathis I write "Aman Sveti Stefan is often considered as one of the best spas and one of the best hotels for honeymoon in the world." which is based on the article of Telegraph here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/articles/The-worlds-50-best-honeymoon-hotels-and-destinations/ Any advice would be very helpful. Thank you!
Jeffpost (talk) 14:06, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Jeffpost - Just state facts. The example you use above is perfect. What you wrote is commentary, based on your interpretation of an underlying article. A neutral statement about the same source is "In January 2016, Aman Sveti Stefan was included on a list of the top 50 honeymoon destinations." See the difference? Yours broadens the significance (which is promotional), mine states a simple fact. You're obviously a fan of Stathis, and sometimes it is difficult to write objectively about people we admire. There are a lot of little things in your article which come across as non-neutral, here are a few (but by no means comprehensive) examples: "Since 2014 Petros Stathis on his own initiative and with the assistance of his bank he managed to sponsor nine orphan children aged 3-5 years which they have given a significant amount at the highest interest deposited to the bank", "and ex famous model", "He supports farmers, producers, and food system entrepreneurs who don’t have access to traditional sources of growth capital by making small loans to them."; and "also owner of plots in the winter resort of Kolasin in Montenegro where upmarket villas will be built in."
- On the positive side, the section about Dnevne Novine, while complimentary, is not promotional. It simply reports the underlying fact covered in the independent source. That section, however, does need more sourcing, for example, you need a source showing that Stathis established the paper. This guy is definitely notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Go through the draft a couple more times and try to make it as neutral as you can. Take your time, this isn't a race. When you think you're ready to resubmit, I'll be more than happy to take another look. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:00, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Marc D. Grossman
Hey,
I have a question regarding the references of and article I recently submitted. They are all independent and the subject had notoriety (including major publications and I think the Golden rule has been followed). Why does it say they are not? Should I be improving how they are cited?
Here is the article for creation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marc_D._Grossman
Albert
Albertkole (talk) 19:54, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Albertkole - most of the references you use are what are called "non-independent", in other words the sources have some connection to the subject of the article (e.g. Sanders Firm, nystla, esquirebank, pntla, Trial Guides, etc). The references you have from independent sources (WSJ, Bloomberg, Reuters, NYP) are only trivial mentions of Grossman. As happens frequently in cases of limited notability like this one, in an attempt to show him as notable, the article reads more like an advertisement for him, rather than an article about him. A Google News Search turned up zero about him (well, it turned up 2 hits, but both were press releases). Admittedly, I did a quick search, so there might be others out there, and I used the "D.", simply using it without the D returned too many other Grossmans named Marc. Onel5969 TT me 14:57, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Gotcha and thank you!
There are indeed plenty more mentions that are more significant in nature. Marc Grossman is also an Ambassador so it's burdensome to find any other Grossman under the broad search. You're right, it does read a bit more ad like than it should. The reason the guy is notable is A) He represents the most amount of Mass Tort clients in the United States and B) He is on more Steering Committees than any other attorney in the United States. So he has pretty much changed the industry in how it handles volume and how a Mass Tort Law firm can be operated.
Everyone in our profession knows who he is based on these facts but it's difficult to gather enough sources to properly bolster these statements outside of PACER court docs that are generally limited to strictly attorneys. I'll see if these are publicly available in some form so I can reference them.
Hopefully I can start editing other attorney pages as well, great to contribute!
Albert
Albertkole (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
What should I fix?
Hello, I sent in an article to be reviewed last night and it was declined. I am not sure what to fix, and since you were the one who reviewed it, I figured that you could maybe tell me what I did wrong in the article. Everything is from a reliable source, and I put it in my own words. Thanks! Oh and it is an article about Alison Stroming.Page title or URLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alison_Stroming
Fluffypillow16 (talk) 00:29, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Fluffypillow16 - First you need to show notability - that will take at least 3 in-depth references from independent, reliable sources. Second, you need sources to validate any assertions you make in the article. Third, you need to work on the structure and formatting. I've added some links to the draft that you can read through, and should help you. Onel5969 TT me 15:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Arena Football Hall of Fame
I finally got around to adding a few more sources to the Arena Football Hall of Fame page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Arena_Football_Hall_of_Fame — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhb55840 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Revert promotional
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WordPress&diff=716489433&oldid=716484973
Howdy there,
Saw you reverted my change for "rev promotional"
what is the promotional in reference to? My link was to cite the wordpress.com website and it links to wordpress which is the topic at hand.
thanks Centurytreedesigns (talk) 01:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- Because it's a highly promotional insertion of content designed to promote the website, written in highly promotional tones. On a page which is already waaaaaay too promotional in tone. Other than that, not much. Onel5969 TT me 01:53, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Editor of the Week : nominations needed!
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Article to review
Dear Onel5969,
I've recently submitted an article for review :
But it was denied because "it does not show the subject notability". We've provided multiple reliable references and his successor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifique_Issoïbeka) has the same accomplishement .. even less but his page is published. Also, we were able to have this article published in french(https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigobert_Roger_Andely), this is just the english version of the french one. Does this mean that wikipedia has a different set of rules per language of the same articles? Please review this one again.
Thank you in advance. 01021981aka (talk) 12:43, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 13:10, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Monica Lavín
You recently rejected
Here is a copy of the references- could you explain for each one of them why they breech the criteria. I am looking for two notable references to qualify as substantial and thus to justify an article- additional references are helpful but don't need to be so rigourous verified.
The whole thing is important as we are short of coverage of Latin-American literature, and we have issues with gender balance and editor retention. The goalposts need to be clear. Can we use this incident to help draw up some further advice. --ClemRutter (talk) 09:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Sure ClemRutter - First, there was no reason to include the citations above, so I've removed them. I can look at them in the draft. Indeed, it's easier there, since they contain weblinks. #1 (and #6 - they are the same and should be combined - I did this one to give you an example) is not independent; #2 is a brief mention; #3 is a non-reliable source (YouTube); and #8 is an interview, which by definition is a primary source, and therefore cannot be used to establish notability. This leaves only a single reference (#4, #5 & #7 - again, same reference). Therefore, there's only a single reference that goes to notability. You'd need at least 3 of that caliber in order to show notability. One last thing, there's no need to be confrontational as you were in your above comment. That's not inducive to garnering a response. Think about it. If I had answered in the same tone, "Is English not your first language? Haven't you taken the time to read Wikipedia guidelines?" How would that have made you feel? Would that have led to a productive interchange? Regardless, hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:49, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Absolutely agree about my tone- that was totally wrong. I was trying to get this out of the way quickly- while juggling a plumber who was fixing a leak in the cellar, giving train directions to a non-English speaking friend of a friend who was late in getting to the airport- and life in general. I have already assisted this new editor who was having her edits mauled by Visual Editor, so we need to be very careful that she doesn't just give up. Lo siento! Do pop over for a beer at my place sometime.
- You are requiring three sources to establish notability - that is important to know, as we can explain that to any trainees. I had always said two was sufficient if they were strong enough like La Revista.
- We are attempting to establish the existence of the person, not a concept or idea. For inclusion we have to establish she is known, and has produced significant work.
- -#8 establishes that she is notable enough to have been invited to literary festival in a different continent- the content of the interview is extra material (primary source etc, etc) Key words "with bestselling Mexican author Monica Lavin" that a lone alerts me she needs to be included.
- -#1/6- yes, commercial link- but good enough to verify most of the book list in the article. The text is from an Spanish not Mexican site- explains she is a prize winning author- and writes for a notable Mexican Journal and is an academic (this provides the secondary source verifying #4 and #7 ).
- -#3- Is just padding.
- The next three cannot be dismissed as being the same page, though ultimately they are all hosted on unam.mx. Other lands - other customs
- -#4- is Despertar los apetitos by Alberto Ruy Sánchez
- -#5- is a literary analysis by Ángel Vargas, in a supplement to La Journada about another of her books
- -#7--is a small author biography from La Revista de la UM- Quien somos explains La Revista de la Universidad de México es la publicación universitaria en circulación más antigua del país. Poco después de lograda la autonomía universitaria, en noviembre de 1930 se retomó la publicación del Boletín de la Universidad de México, que había fundado el rector José Vasconcelos en 1922-- En sus páginas han colaborado generaciones sucesivas de intelectuales, artistas y científicos mexicanos, por lo que constituye un referente central para el estudio de las fuentes literarias, académicas e intelectuales del México contemporáneo.
- I claim only a cursory reading knowledge of Spanish- and I had already got this far before I responded. When the references have been read and assessed I see overwelming notability in 4,5,7 and 8. We need to get this article into mainspace so other editors can wikify it. The references seem to give a lot of leads to other authors requiring articles. --ClemRutter (talk) 15:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Author is clearly notable. She has been covered in the Mexican Ministry of Cultural's Encyclopedia [1], and interviewed in depth by many of the largest newspapers in Mexico. [2], [3], [4] all of which confirm her multiple awards and contributions. Does not appear to be a matter of not meeting notability, but one of not meeting the proper MOS in documenting same. I have no idea whether I can edit a draft that is at AfC, nor why an editor would reject a draft rather than try to verify (maybe that is the procedure which I admit I am clueless about?). As I live in Mexico and write many articles about Mexican women for English WP, I was asked to look at the draft. The author is notable and deserves a place in mainspace, having received the National Literature Prize Gilberto Owen, National Novel Prize Jorge Ibargüengoitia, and the Ibero-american Novel Prize Elena Poniatowska. SusunW (talk) 19:49, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
SusunW - Simply after you correctly format the references, hit the resubmit button. Onel5969 TT me 20:34, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- Weird, I didn't get your last ping, but was coming here to tell you that I moved her to mainspace. No point in AfC editors reviewing it further since there are multiple full articles on her. I redid the sourcing, added categories, added WikiProjects and linked her to the Spanish and French entries. Thanks for your help. Sorry for the confusion. SusunW (talk) 23:05, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
14:05:23, 23 April 2016 review of submission by 76.208.150.8
- 76.208.150.8 (talk · contribs)
Hi -- I don't understand why the my references are not good enough to verify the notability of the subject. My primary source: The "Internet Movie Database" (imdb.com) is the prime source for professional credits on filmmaking in the world. The other source is the Faculty Directory at the University of Southern California, an institution started more than 125 years ago and which hosts the oldest film school in the nation, founded in 1926. 76.208.150.8 (talk) 14:05, 23 April 2016 (UTC)tom abrams
- Hi. imdb.com is not a reliable source, except for rare, very limited circumstances, it's never used as a reference. And Fink is connected with USC, therefore that type of reference is good for backing up assertions made in the article, but has zero value for notability purposes. Onel5969 TT me 14:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks, CookieMonster755! Nice to see you back. Take it easy! Onel5969 TT me 18:16, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 19:38:34, 23 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Netherzone
- Netherzone (talk · contribs)
- )
Dear User:Onel5969,
I have worked on the Draft on the late artist, Nade Haley. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nade_Haley
Subject's notability is established via sources/citations including: Princeton Architectural Press, National Endowment for the Arts, Artforum magazine, Art International, H.N. Abrams publishers, Washington Project for the Arts, Islip Art Museum, Socrates Sculpture Park and others. This artist has 40 years professional experience in public art, and many gallery and museum exhibitions. Was a full Professor of Art for 30+ years at the top art school in the U.S. Please reconsider your review stating that subject lacks notability. Thank you kindly in advance. Netherzone (talk) 19:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC) Netherzone (talk) 19:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
G. Gordon Liddy edits
You mention that my edit has been reversed "often enough", but you failed to notice that it is open proxies that are doing the reversal. There's a good reason that open proxies aren't allowed to edit. It because even veteran editors like yourself can be fooled into thinking there is consensus when none exits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.143.224.185 (talk) 20:53, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Never said there was consensus, and never said it shouldn't be added. What I said was it should be discussed on the talk page and consensus reached before it is re-added. But folks with an obvious agenda, like yourself, can fool yourselves into thinking almost anything. Don't bother responding, any further comments from you are unwanted on this talk page and will be deleted without reading. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 20:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
W17
Regarding this notice, Wordseventeen is now indeffed for socking while blocked. It would seem unlikely they will be doing anything to the draft, therefore, speedy delete is appropriate. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:40, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Maury M. Cohen
Regarding article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_M._Cohen I am Maury Cohen's grandson. I edited the article about him. It was reverted by you on 4/16/16. Please let me know how I can get the changes I made accepted. It seems that IMDB was used as a source for this article. The info there is also wrong. Garuanonturna Garuanocturna (talk) 17:51, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Garuanocturna - I created the article about Cohen, when I was researching about C and I, and saw that there wasn't one about him. Actually, I rarely use imdb.com as a source, since it is highly unreliable. I do use it to point me in a direction of research. Much more do I rely on periodicals of that period, such as The Film Bulletin, Motion Picture Daily, The Film Daily, Variety, etc. And that's what I did in the case of Cohen.
- Your edits are what is called original research, and is pretty much always reverted. The fact that some of what you said about Cohen contradicted information which had been published about him, also might lead one to think your claim to be his grandson is not true. That being said, when I was writing the article, I did find the dearth of information about Cohen from the 1950s on as somewhat strange. The only information I was able to find on that period came from the obit of his widow, Bonnie Key.
- If you have access to published information about Cohen, which comes from reliable sources, I'll be more than happy to update the article. For example, do you have access to his obituary? Any other articles about him? Books? Let me know. If something is incorrect in the article, we definitely want the right information there. Onel5969 TT me 18:15, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Your thoughts
Thanks for the ping thanks O. It is possible that I was wrong (not the first or last time I'm sure) about my edit. Please see this User talk:MarnetteD#Howard Da Silva. At worst it'll mean I have to watch the film again and there is never anything wrong with that :-) MarnetteD|Talk 00:05, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- MarnetteD - I was leaving a message for you on your talk page in that section, lol. Let me know your thoughts. I saw this film about a month ago, but there are so many cameos, for the life of me I can't remember about Da Silva. Onel5969 TT me 00:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
ACC
- acc:169435. -- ey02:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- acc:169452. -- ey02:26, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- acc:169450. -- ey02:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Riley Huntley - I will keep these as examples going forward. Not that I can do anything further today, having reached my limit of 6 creations. I actually got a little excited today, that there was stuff for me to do at account creation. Appreciate the guidance. If there's ever a backlog, don't be afraid to ping me, and I'll jump on when I have a chance. At least I can keep going until I approve 6. Onel5969 TT me02:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'll probably drop some more feedback in this section while it's open; if you ever get bored (pfft, who has time to be bored), or what to help further before you get the ACC flag; feel free to go through the Flagged user section in the future. You can review the username and similiar username data and close quite a few cases as taken or too similar, you only need the right to create them. Considering you don't need to reserve to see that information, its also handy. You'll also gain experience with handling similar accounts (sim account flowchart) this way. In the future, if you ever see a requester comment that reveals personal information (like in acc:169450), please bring it to the attention of an admin via IRC or the admins mailing list at enwiki-acc-adminsgooglegroups.com. We do not want privacy policy violations (even by the requester) in our database. -- ey02:51, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'll probably drop some more feedback in this section while it's open; if you ever get bored (pfft, who has time to be bored), or what to help further before you get the ACC flag; feel free to go through the Flagged user section in the future. You can review the username and similiar username data and close quite a few cases as taken or too similar, you only need the right to create them. Considering you don't need to reserve to see that information, its also handy. You'll also gain experience with handling similar accounts (sim account flowchart) this way. In the future, if you ever see a requester comment that reveals personal information (like in acc:169450), please bring it to the attention of an admin via IRC or the admins mailing list at enwiki-acc-adminsgooglegroups.com. We do not want privacy policy violations (even by the requester) in our database. --
- acc:169436; let's try UPolicy instead, I assume you just clicked the closure option directly below. Also general feedback; unless the requested username was moved to ___~enwiki, use Taken (Standard). Otherwise, thanks for the activity and keep it up! :) -- ey03:29, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Walter von Goethe
I try to translate an article about the grandson and last descendent of our greatest German poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. This article does not exist English. It does exist in German:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_von_Goethe
I created the English article and used the German references.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Walter_von_Goethe
In the German article they do not need more references. What can I do to make it pass? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burkhardt.alexander (talk • contribs) 06:42, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 15:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 14:05:34, 25 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by PascaldeLacaze
Many thanks for your quick and valuable feedback. I'm trying to write an article that meets the quality expectations from Wikipedia. I do understand these rules are essential. Your comments are helping but I'm really puzzled now. Any help would be appreciated.
Indeed what is written here is only based on facts that can be checked and verified among the references I inserted. If I can ask you just a few more minutes of your time you will be able to check that these sources are the most independent and reliable sources you can find in the CAD industry. Medias such as Upfront.eZine, Cadalyst, Architosh, Desktop Engineering, Graphic Speaks... etc. represent the few last independent and expert sources following the CAD industry. I tried to follow any precious advice that was given here but I'm afraid I can't do much better without further details. I do feel however a page about Graebert makes sense as more than 8 Million professionals are using nowadays products powered by its technology which represents the second installed base. Graebert is also reknown in the CAD industry for pioneering innovations. I understand this should meet the expectations in terms of notability. I look forward improving the quality of the article. Any help will be much appreciated.
PascaldeLacaze (talk) 14:05, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi PascaldeLacaze - Everything in my car dealer's brochure about the new 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokees is factual as well. It is also a promotional brochure, which is what your article reads like. My guess is that you might have some connection with the company. Usually that's the case when an editor uses trademark, copyright, or registered symbols. All those have to go, they aren't used on Wikipedia. Second, don't try to sell us a product, simply tell us about the company. Product listings and partner listings are simply promotional. As are the inclusion of the non-notable awards. The use of press releases is also highly discouraged (such as the current #3). Peacock terms, like "pioneer", and claims like "the second largest installed base in the industry for 2D CAD" need to be backed up by independent, reliable sources. Neither of those are. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
18:37:04, 25 April 2016 review of submission by Alyssa Denim
- Alyssa Denim (talk · contribs)
Hi there, I am having some trouble getting my article approved. I am not sure I understand the "reads like an advertisement" critique as each statement is a fact rather than an opinion. Any specific insight on how I can improve this article would be super helpful. I am trying to be as objective as possible.
Thank you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joie_(clothing_company)
Alyssa Denim (talk) 18:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 15:27, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
20:08:01, 25 April 2016 review of submission by Ys865
The article was declined due to lack of citations other than the artist's own website. It has been revised to include many additional references. This musician has worked and performed in various countries and therefore some references are in other languages. I would greatly appreciate a re-review and approval of this article to help publish information on this young and very talented musician.
Ys865 (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Ys865
- Hi Ys865 - I see you've already resubmitted, so I'll let another editor take a crack at it. I'll post a comment at the draft to help you and any future reviewers. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me
Draft:Constantine Paraskevopoulos (I think)
Love this - I'm very new to contributing! look forward to learning lots! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.16.227 (talk) 00:39, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm not sure if you have an account, the article has two accounts which have contributed to it. Please remember to sign in, whenever you work on an article, or simply post on talk pages. It helps communication. Anyway, if you stop back by here, I've posted some links at the draft which might be of help to you. Onel5969 TT me 15:44, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
draft : Rupak Kulkarni
Dear Onel,
I have given few references to the article as a verification of reliable source.It also has the few books links where RUPKA Kulkarni's name was appreciated.
Please review and let me know the next steps.I have few more links and referecces in the form of offline files and can be sent to you for reference.Please let me know alternate way to send the offline files as I was not able upload the files as article is in draft stage.
Best regards,
Amit
wikiuser_music
Wikiuser music (talk) 06:19, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 15:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 14:47:17, 26 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by PascaldeLacaze
Hi Onel5969, thank you for your feedback. I edited the article accordingly and will resubmit it now.
PascaldeLacaze (talk) 14:47, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 15:12:30, 26 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by MasonB23
Advice on Sourcing for Andy Blunt
Morning Onel5969,
I am wondering if you could give me some pointers on sourcing for the Andy Blunt page, which you reviewed in Articles for Creation this morning. Do you think I should add to the actual content of the page to expand on reasons Blunt is notable or do you think it is sufficient to simply add more Missouri based/national sources to our source list to back up the content that is currently on the page.
Thanks for taking the time to review and pass along a few tips!
MasonB23 (talk) 15:12, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi MasonB23 - That's actually an excellent question. The answer is both. To a certain extent. Right now, the article reads about a successful person, but there's nothing notable there. He ran some successful campaigns. He's been a successful businessman. Okay. The press coverage is all local stuff, which isn't going to help him establish notability. So, first, you have to assert notability. What makes him notable, as opposed to thousands of other campaign managers, and hundreds of millions of other successful businessmen? Doesn't have to be a deluge of stuff, but it should show some notability. Second, your sourcing is truly your weak point. You need more and better sourcing, preferably from non-local sources. And the more in-depth the article is about him, the better. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
20:15:38, 26 April 2016 review of submission by Traduttore1987
AfCs
Hello, I simply wanted to let you know that whenever you see AfC submissions for artists who have been collected by major museums, they are instantly notable and acceptable. If you question any of them, please let me know and I'll examine. Sincerely,
- Thanks SwisterTwister - I did know that. They have to be part of the permanent collection of that museum, not simply just part of an exhibition there. And I guess it's what you determine to be a "major museum". . Onel5969 TT me 11:10, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
17:20:10, 27 April 2016 review of submission by Novak Breed
- Novak Breed (talk · contribs)
Hi. I want to understand if removing facebook and blog links is enough to publish my submission. The rest of the ssources are Montevideo Council, and other two independent medias.
17:33:16, 27 April 2016 review of submission by Lee James Simmons
Dear Onel5969,
With regards, to reliable and independent source's I do not accept this.
Firstly, please refer to the Evening Standard article below also (under References). The Evening Standard for example is London's most notable news agency. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/wow-factor-sculpture-aims-to-brighten-up-marble-arch-10043523.html
Please see link to The Evening Standards Wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Evening_Standard The project at Marble Arch that I am working on will be one of the most 'notable' pieces of public art in London and I am also working inconjcution with one of Americas most 'notable' Architects Mr. Rafeal Vinoly. Please see link to Mr. Rafeal Vinoly Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Viñoly
Secondly, I have featured in The Independent which is one of the UK's most notable Broad sheet Newspapers see below. (Please note that this was previously not included, however I have now included this into the draft.) http://www.independent.co.uk/property/interiors/annie-deakin/new-designers-shake-up-old-timers-1739687.html
Please see link to The Independent Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent
I have also featured in CITY AM, another one of London's notable newspapers.
Please see link to City A.M Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_A.M.
I would appreciate it if you could please re-consider. I would also like to include images within my Wikipedia page and would appreciate if someone could assist with this.
Kind regards,
Lee Simmons Ref : Username Lee James Simmons
- Hi WP:BLP1E takes over. You can ask for help at the Teahouse, and see if someone is willing to help you write the article, if you can provide them with enough in-depth coverage to show notability. I hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me20:46, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Request on 17:41:09, 27 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Wikiwikiwikiwikishutup
Hi - Onel5969 -
I got the message that the article I submitted was sufficiently notable but the structure and format was wrong. I'd love your suggestions on how to fix! Thanks.
Wikiwikiwikiwikishutup (talk) 17:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)Wikiwikiwikiwikishutup
Wikiwikiwikiwikishutup (talk) 17:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi WP:CIT. You can also go to other articles about producers and take a look at those. One of the first articles I ever created was about a lesser-known tv producer, David P. Levin. Take a look at that. In fact, when looking at it, I realized back then I didn't really know how to format citations, so I've just begun to flesh out the citations. Hope this helps, and don't be afraid to ask questions. Greenberg's Emmy's, if nothing else, qualify him as notable. Ping me here if you want me to take another look.Onel5969 TT me19:35, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Report user that only vandalises
Hey,
I'd like to report a user that I've noticed is only here to vandalise. The name of the user is "user:Rabbi M. Raff". How do I go by reporting them?
- Hi 19:43, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
07:36:02, 28 April 2016 review of submission by Hachemjohnny
- Hachemjohnny (talk · contribs)
Thank you for taking the time to review my draft article, I'm a new editor and this is my first article submitted to Wiki, can you please advise on how this article might be improved?
Hachemjohnny (talk) 07:36, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi 19:45, 1 May 2016 (UTC)