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• 100.15.68.77 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Sevn Thomas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello! I'm not requesting a re-review just yet, I understand the need for more objective references on the topic. However, I'm wondering what the difference between a page like this one and Frank Duke's page are, in terms of source material? Both pull information from three separate sources, and they have comparable discographies and notable work with other prominent musicians.

Hi - that's an argument called

other stuff exists, and doesn't really apply. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

19:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

16:46:27, 1 May 2016 review of submission by ShafferAgency

• ShafferAgency (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ashley Lindley (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

When compared with her roommate from the same season of The Real World (Erika Lauren Wasilewski), Ashley has more credits and more press coverage. We will add more references, but the question of notability is inconsistent. Please explain the discrepancy and if you could assist in referencing, it would be greatly appreciated.

(ShafferAgency (talk) 16:46, 1 May 2016 (UTC))

Hi

WP:PAY). I deleted the references you listed here, since they simply clutter up my talk page (which can get pretty crowded). If they meet the criteria I put forth on your draft, feel free to include them there. I did notice one of them appeared to be written by the subject. Those also shouldn't be used, as they are primary sources. Hope this helps. Good luck. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

18:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

You turned down the article

Onel5969, thank you for your help on my first article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:George_Hodos

is there a time frame where we would have to make corrections to this article?

this may take us some time to correct this article.

Blessing of Prosperity and longevity to you and yours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cleeross (talk • contribs) 18:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Cleeross - Theoretically, there is no deadline. A draft can sit for 5 months without anyone touching it, after which they will be notified that if no one edits it in the following month, it can be nominated for deletion. If no one edits it for that month, it can be nominated for deletion. But even if it is, all you have to do is ask to have it reinstated, and it will be. So take your time. Get it right. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 02:23, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Heya. I know how busy you are, because I forgot to take your talk page off my watchlist after you helped me with

) 18:56, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing my article. I'm curious as to why you said the article has a POV issue. Is it to do with the organ donation subject?

AuthorKJ (talk) 23:24, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Julie - I saw that you had resubmitted it, and I purposely did not review it again, wanting input from at least one other editor. Personally, I don't think articles should have product tables in them, that's something which belongs in a promotional brochure. However, that's not policy, and so I wanted further input. It does give the article an air of promotion, since none of the products are in and of themselves, notable. It's like you're giving customers ordering menus. The way you spoke about the ME05 in the body of the article is fine, imho, but other editors may still find it promotional, talking about it selling out. Talking about where the product is sold is also a bit promotional. I would also not break out the partnerships, but simply incorporate them into the body of the history section. But that's just a personal preference. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that and sorry for the delay. Life gets in the way once again. I appreciate the input. Going to go give it another cut. And not taking you off my watchlist because I've been learning from your responses (both your diligience in responding and your perspective on all this). Thanks! JSFarman2 (talk) 13:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I made the changes you referenced from the page (as well as the more recent changes suggested from another user after resubmitting). If all looks good can you accept the article to publish? Would like to get this up and running ASAP. Thanks so much!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fenton_Bailey_%26_Randy_Barbato

Worldofwonder2015 (talk) 23:39, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

As per advice the of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimfbleak on my talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ch.th, I have created the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Komal_Jha and submitted for review and approval. I understand that you have declined the submission. Of course, it might not have been written well, but need your intervention to put the matter together and get the article published (Say encyclopedic article for the time being as advised by Jimfbleak). Could you please create or guide to create this article at the earliest in the acceptable format/manner ?

Thanks Chinth Ch.th (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:TOOSOON, but this actress simply does not meet our notability guidelines at the moment. Your sourcing in the article doesn't approach the level needed, either. Part of the issue is that the Indian press has become more and more tabloid-like, especially in the arts, where they simply write regurgitated press releases and say they are news articles. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

13:11, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi There ! What do you suggest? This person is actually a known actress in the southern part of India with on of her movies running successfully for over 100 days in theaters. Known regional dailies have published articles and some regional news/entertainment channels have published the interactions and details about her. She has been in the South Indian film industry for last 6-7 years. Need you help to get it published.I see a lot of new actors, not known much, too have pages on Wikipedia. I believe an actor like this person who has done movies in lead roles, in four Indian languages deserves a simple article on Wikipedia. Please guide in this regard. Thanks !! Ch.th (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

• 155.229.209.58 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bela Bognar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
    )

Sorry about that it's a private data base, I see how you couldn't 'get in' the head librarian warned me but I forgot to give you the information she said you would need. Here it is, and Thank You.

ART NEWS. (1970, Nov 15). Los Angeles Times (1923-Current File) Retrieved from http://search.proquest.com/docview/156603786?

Collections, Research, and Instructional Services UCLA Library [email protected] 310.825.1323

Hi - Not sure what you are talking about, but the article does not show the notability of the individual. To show notability you'll need in-depth coverage from at least 3 different sources, right now you have a single reference. References don't need to be accessible online, that simply makes it easier. You can take a look at

WP:CIT on how to properly cite sources; if you do use references not available online, please make sure you include all necessary information. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

13:33, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Nigeria 2016 Writing Contest

	Wiki Loves Nigeria!
	Thank you for your contribution to the Wiki Loves Nigeria 2016 Writing Contest!Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 09:47, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Olaniyan Olushola - Wish I had done more. Got real busy in real life. Also, wow, was it difficult sourcing articles. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:34, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Great contribution to the Wikipedia!! Chilledmyspine (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Chilledmyspine! Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:39, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

• Sebasjim (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Sebastian Jimenez (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Would you kindly be more specific about the changes needed? I believe we have referenced independent sources that provide proof of background, being the producer of the number 1 hispanic reality show in the US. Would it help to provide additional press releases from the actual TV series?

Hi

WP:ILC on putting those references inline, which you will need to do since this is a blp. You also need to have reliable sources; twitter, facebook, imdb, Wikipedia itself are not valid as reliable sources. You will also need in-depth coverage from at least 3 independent reliable sources, with more than niche or local coverage to show they are notable. Being the producer of the #1 show in any category is a nice credit, but doesn't make someone notable. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

13:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Mentoring Request

Dear Onel5969 Sir, I have reworked on my project Draft:Purplehed Records. It will be great if you can mentor me for further improvement. I sincerely apologies for the mistakes and arguments I committed in our last conversation. I wish to contribute a good article and I do understand and value your feedback. I appreciate your teachings.Thanks and Best Regards Catrat999 (talk) 22:37, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Catrat999 - Article is still very pov. The quotations from the founders are very promotional and self-serving. The detail about their 2 projects is waaaaaay too detailed. No more than a line or two about each. These are many of the same issues. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:50, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear Onel5969 Sir, 1) I ll remove one quote that I used from the founder :) But to further clarify since you mentioned plural "Qutations/Founders" do you want me to remove Sanskrit sloka also or Dr Kalams's Vision which I linked with another WIki page ? 2) As per my understanding one should write in articles about why subject is notable or what independent sources are talking about the subject. In my case subject is notable for two projects. I believe both the singles are Individually notable , but I also understand they have very little accomplishments as they are not that famous in world and thats the reason I didn't make separate page for singles and included them on same page, I did refer many singles on wiki, Almost all of them talk about what single is about, What Artist's thought processes behind it, lead casts etc, I tried the same by restricting content to only facts that too with inline citations/proof for each statement, without including any original research but still its not working. Kindly throw some guidance on it.

If you have observed I have removed most of those statements which you said were not appropriate at Teahouse in current draft. I am ready to remove everything based of your suggestions again, but please I dont want to make a Stub article in this quest, I have really researched hard on it. Neither I am in hurry. Kindly guide me to at least make a start class. Forgive me if I am highly ambitious. Best Regards Catrat999 (talk) 15:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

• Vtradefair (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Utkarsh Rai (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Sir, Please guide me. This is my first Wikipedia article and I'm confused as to what references to be added more. I would really be glad if I get some more details about the reference part. Also, please let me know whether any changes needs to be done in other parts of the article.

Vtradefair - First, sources need to be independent, 4 of your current ones aren't. Second they need to be reliable, none of your 5 are (Wikipedia, by definition, can't self-reference). Third, to show notability, you'll need at least 3 in-depth sources which you can reference, which are from independent, reliable sources, preferably not only local sources. Next is the tone of the article: this is an encyclopedia article, not a bio in a trade or fan magazine. We don't care what he "likes", or "does in his spare time". Does his corpus show that he is notable? Has he received in-depth coverage? Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

• MinnesotanParis (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Keiichi Matsuda, filmmaker (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, I really appreciate you reviewing my page. I am sure that it is evident to you I have not published a Wikipedia page before, so I appreciate any assistance. The subject of my page has been written about extensively in design magazines, in interviews, etc. and he is about to collaborate with some major luxury brands -- he is being "buzzed" about -- and moreover, as an artist he has worked with major festivals/museums (London Design Festival, NYC MoMA, etc). So I have a hard time believing he is not relevant enough to deserve an online biography...? As far as the references I have listed, I attempted to eliminate the links that were of his own creation/collaboration such as his video links or Kickstarter campaign...I hope this is what you needed to be able to publish this. Please let me know! Thank you so much.

Hi

MOS:LAYOUT to give you ideas about how to structure the article. You should have a lead, which should be a few lines which could act as a synopsis of the entire piece, then have the main body of the article, under a heading of something like "Career". Just some thoughts. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

17:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

OTRS

You seem to be active at the moment. Any interest in working on some OTRS tickets together?--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:09, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Belay that thought, I have to run out.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry Sphilbrick - stepped away... had some ironing to do, and now I have to be off to work. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear Onel5969,

You have declined an article I had requested for creation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Parvathi_Nayar

Thanks for taking the time to go through the draft. I was of the understanding that, since this was an article requested for creation by Wikipedia editors themselves, all Wikipedia guidelines would be maintained. Therefore, can you please specify why exactly this article draft was declined and help correct it?

The decline reason states that the article reads like an advertisement, so is it the tone that needs fixing (to get the neutral POV) but the content as such is good to go as far as Wikipedia guidelines for verifiability / notability go? If this is indeed the case, please point out couple of examples of wrong tone in the draft & how they may be rewritten so that I get an idea. Thanks.

Liquidmetal2016 (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Liquidmetal2016

Hi Liquidmetal2016 - I'm not really sure what you mean the article was requested to be created by Wikipedia editors. If a Wikipedia editor wants to create an article, they simply create it. I was pretty specific why the article was rejected. It's not an article. It's an advertisements. I did not comment on the notability. There was no need to evaluate an article which is so promotional on notability grounds. Looking briefly at the current sourcing, you have 10 citations, the first 4 of which are not independent, and at least one other which is an interview. None of those go to notability. I'm not sure of the others. Indian papers are not that reliable when it comes to articles about the arts. They have the habit of being more tabloid, than newspaper, and quite frequently simply accept press releases and altar them to masquerade as news articles. To point out the specific examples where the tone of the article is promotional would be to point out the entire article. Sorry, but right now it's little more than a promotional brochure for the artist. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:09, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello Onel5969,

I noticed an AFC submission that you just recently declined is already an article and is currently at AFD. [1]

The AFC version looks quite similar to the original Philippe Maidenberg article that has been trimmed of puffery and promotionalism. The creator and a couple IP's kept re-adding the fluff and promo stuff. Looks like the next step was to submit the original article to AFC. Sorry to see you had to waste time.

Anyways, it is aT AFD here [2] Fouetté rond de jambe en tournant (talk) 02:57, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

No worries Fouetté rond de jambe en tournant - looks like the same editor created the AfC draft after the other article was sent to AfD. Will keep an eye on both. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

• LeonRaper (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Leon Raper (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have spent my entire dance life (over 50 years) trying to provide free information about swing dance to dancers throughout the world.. I have spent thousands of hours trying to make others happy. I have the largest amount of swing dance information on the internet.

2015 World Swing Dance Hall of Fame (Special Recognition Award) ... This should tell you much that you need to make your decision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3cJ7wm7sTg

1973 San Diego Swing Dance Festival - Leon & Colleen Raper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyLUAJkClmc

I have original copies of all documents referred to under Reverences. I don't know how to apply citations to any of them.

If you still consider rejecting me I can do no more about it except: Please get my draft page to someone in the Wikipedia dance world who knows something about swing dance. They will certainly know me and know about my massive free work in swing dance.

I appreciate your comments,

Hubert Leon Raper

Hubert Leon Raper 16:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:COI. I've tagged the draft, but you should look at those links and take the appropriate actions. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

16:40, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

01:18:26, 8 May 2016 review of submission by 162.254.216.90

• 162.254.216.90 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bela Bognar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
    )

Sir John Sulman Prize 1963 NSW New South Wales Gallery http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/prizes/sulman/1963/23101/

• Tangray-nick (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mianyang Municipal Investment Bureau : Europe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hello Onel5969

I would like to discuss you rejection about my article on Mianjang Investment Promotion Bureau. Firstly I dont find your comments very helpfull as they are very broad and seem to be composed of automated responses which makes me wonder if you have actually read the article and sources that deeply. I would expect a reviewer to be more specific. I would expect the review process to be as serious as the time, energy and process which I have applied to the construction of the article and the research into supporting material.

You say it reads like an advertisement, this is a comment about style and not about content, particularly when you consider that nothing is being sold here. It is purely informational. You say that an article has to be supported by references, this article is most definetly supported by references and almost all statements that need to be verified have a reference to do this. I cannot beleive that you have checked the references!? otherwise you would see this. Of course there can always be more, but that isnt what you said , is it? You say that an article has to be neutral and not based on materials provided by the creator. I dont think there is any material in this article that comes from a personal experience of myself and I have not said that. The only personal aspect of this article is that I have used photographs that I have personally taken so that I can claim the copyright and place them in the public domain.

let me take you through the encyclopedic line and demonstrate the notability in the contents of my article.

Mianyang is the only city in China to have the central government endorsement of "Science City" - This is a undeniable fact! and considering how big China is this is notable in itself. Is it not intriguing that the only "Science city" in the 21st century in China was also the home of Gunpowder in the 4th century and was also the home of the atom bomb in the 20th century. This seem encyclopeadic to me. (I documented these statements)

The development and success of Mianyang after 1964 was a direct outcome of the famous "Third Front" movement - again this is notable and interesting in demonstrating the the success of this movement in this case. When connecting the Third Front movement with mountainous and "secret" location of Mianyang and therefore the desire of Central Government to place Military, nuclear and space R&D facilities in this area we see the emergence of a UNIQUE set of circumstances that have produced the Mianyang of today and endowed it with some interesting and notable characteristics. For instance the fact that it contains more graduates per capita than any other town in China. I admit as it happens that I forgot the reference to this bit of non trivia and i can easily add it. These aspects all make it a notable melting pot for innovation and development in the decades to come. This is notable and the details concerning the origins are encyclopedic.

It is hard to encapsulate and reproduce the recipes that are needed for success in innovation and development. No one can quite explain why Silicon valley is what it is. Therefore to find a secret science city in China that has a good chance of reproducing this is notable.

Finally I attempted to demonstrate this line of thought by referring to the "swords to ploughshares" metaphor and explaining how this has worked in the case of BMW (a notable company) and the Chinese Military Vehicle R&D establishment (a notable organisation) and the circumstances then become encyclopedic.

How you can possibly say that this discussion is based on my own material I just dont see.

I would appreciate a reaction to this and some specific comments that you think need to be improved which show me that you have read the references and that you can see this is not based on my own material.

I just left some information on your talk page withous signing, possibly.

I referred to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mianyang_Municipal_Investment_Bureau_:_Europe

which you reviewed.

I am Nick Ray [email protected]

Tangray-nick (talk) 11:39, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:NOT, which discusses what Wikipedia is not. I'll put some more links which you might find helpful on the draft. Good luck. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

16:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Could you please let me know what is the issue with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jos%C3%A9_Carlos_Brunoro He is a legend in Brazil. I made several changes in the text to make it shorter and more formal.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricosg (talk • contribs) 14:30, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ricosg - You've already resubmitted, so lets let another editor have a crack at it. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Onel5969 I shall keep my comments shorter in future. I would have said defensive rather than argumentative I think I have a problem with the difference between promotional and what is informative. I shall rewrite this in another style and see what happens then. I would still appreciate some positive feedback as opposed to what it is not supposed to be. Tangray-nick (talk) 18:52, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:ILC about using in-line citations. Also, citations to show notability need to come from independent, reliable sources, which have in-depth coverage of the subject. Right now the few references from independent sources don't appear to be talking about Mianyang Municipal Investment Bureau. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:52, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hi,thank you so much for your review of my article"dingtone" and your helpful advice. I write the article because i am an active user of the Dingtone app. I am a green hand on Wiki and i will follow your advice to make the article neutral and reliable. Thank you again! Ellen Cooper (talk) 03:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

08:15:04, 9 May 2016 review of submission by Anshul01784

• Anshul01784 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mustafa Nadeem (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I need to know what are the word that is not coming in formal tone , and what changes I need to do to make my article approve?

Anshul01784 (talk) 08:16, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

• Lecobe (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Christian Kerez (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
    )

Hi,thanks for your message. I added the references I used for the article and saved it. As I will be away until the end of the month, I will contact Teahouse for further information when I'am back. --Lecobe (talk) 14:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

• Anonjourna (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Dale Armin Johnson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, and thank you. Could you please tell me what other third-party references I would need to note for Dale Armin Johnson in order to satisfy the criteria? I took reference from the IMDb, and linked to each film, because it is the most reliable third-party database on entertainment in the world. I did the same with his biography. Mr Johnson's credits as Executive Producer and Producer, as well as all reviews and related matters of his films, are all correspondingly noted there. IMDb is an independent industry verification database so I assumed this met the criteria for verification and inclusion. Please let me know what more I need to do. Thank you for your feedback. I am relatively new to Wiki posting and I appreciate the education. Anonjourna (talk) 17:49, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Anonjourna - imdb is not a reliable source, and should not be used as a reference. Anybody can edit imdb. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

• Hervé Utoro (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Johnny Bullet (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. I don't understand the rejection. All sources were third parties who wrote their reviews independently. One of them (L'Expresse) is even a well-known Canadian newspaper in Toronto.

Hi,

We have been going round and round for over a month dealing with many different issues. We all have to stop this and deal with one issue at a time. The first issue I want to deal with is Autobiography. If this can't be solved then we might as well shut down my Wikipedia page. But first consider the following.

Yes, Wikipedia people know I wrote my page. However, I also asked all of them to tell me about any word on my page that indicates I wrote it. None of the reviewers came back with an answer.

If Wikipedia publishes my page there will be billions of people throughout the world who don't have a clue who wrote the page.

Please, all reviewers get on board so we can calm this down and deal with one issue at a time.

I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Hubert Leon Raper Hubert Leon Raper 21:49, 9 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeonRaper (talk • contribs)

Hi Onel5969,

I see this as very vague and he definitely fits this category "a similar major professional sports league.” He played in Spain which is one of the top leagues in the world and he has played in two top leagues in countries. That is all ACB and Serie A are is top leagues in a particular country. Here is a list of all of the Professional National Leagues and he played in 4 of these. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_basketball_leagues

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rashad_West&gettingStartedReturn=true

RWspecialRWspecial (talk) 21:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:NHOOPS. None of the leagues he played in qualify. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:31, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Rashad West

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rashad_West&gettingStartedReturn=true

Thank you for taking a look Onel5969. Could you please reference "a similar major professional sports league," as mentioned in

. If a player has played in the ACC conference, SEC conference, or "any similar major conference" qualifies a individual as a NCAA Division 1 college football player. I feel as if every person who follows college football could name a couple other major NCAA Division 1 football leagues if they follow the sport and each person asked would have their own subjective opinion and reasoning behind their answer. Thank you for your time, it is truly appreciated. I look forward to hearing back from you.

All the best!

RWspecial (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear Onel5969, I want to apologize for not reading the appropriate help pages before submitting my proposed page now found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Newpoli. Although I read several help articles for submitting a new Wikipedia entry, I somehow missed the ones you pointed me to. Thanks for your time in reviewing the page and helping to set me straight. I will work with the music directors for the group and ensure that our next submittal will comply with the guidelines. The Cantabrigian (talk) 03:39, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

No worries

WP:COI and take any appropriate steps you need to. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing me to the

) 16:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...

just a sign of support
... you were recipient no. 1209 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello. How are you? I was a little surprised to see my article taken down based on lack of citations and sort of promoting my subject. I would like you to assist me resubmit the article. The main source I used was an article written by the Pakistan TB Association, government run and the same article was republished by several magazines in 1964.There is also a road named after Dr. Riaz Ali Shah (in.mapaworld.com/map/riaz-ali-shah-road-lahore-pakistan.ht) in the most expensive area of Lahore, Pakistan (link attached). He is known to all Pakistanis and is just not talked about as much as maybe a President as he was a doctor who was responsible for starting organizations in Pakistan run by the government which exist till today. King Edward Medical University is the most prestigious university in Pakistan and they have also mentioned him on their web site. He was the founder of Pakistan, Muhammad jinnah's personal doctor and the many pictures and several web sites i have cited are a proof to that. I mentioned harrapa films web site as a source as that web site clearly states that Dr. Riaz Ali Shah took pictures of the leaders and if you want a certification of that, you can contact the owner of the site. The Friday times has been used as a citation as the Friday times is the most famous newspaper of Paksitan and it mentions him being Jinnah's doctor. The articles's content is chosen from the "Life Sketch" article which I can post to you in email since it does not exist online. just ask anyone from Pakistan who this person is, everyone knows him. This person has also been mentioned on Wikipedia by Yashmin Bokhari (.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmin_Bokhari) I have added more sources at the bottom apart from the main source. tell me what you think and want. I typed his name and found more sources below which I did not use or know about. The sources about his personal life are not online as he is from the 60s and Pakistanis do not use the net much to promote their legends as much as others but can be mailed to you if you like. Read the content and please tell me you do not think the doctor of the founder of a nation who eradicated TB in a poor country, started organizations, has a road in his name, has footage of world leaders because he was there, and has many prominent pics with the Founder of pakistan's sister, and is mentioned in the king edward medical university site is not notable? Im just sharing the articles which I think people should know about. i will not be too much of a hassle as my job was to share it. the rest is not up to me. thanks. (Legends2016 (talk) 11:57, 11 May 2016 (UTC))

Hi

wall of text. Also, there is no need to put the references here on my talk page, so I've removed them. Right now, most of the sources in your article are what we call non-independent. In other words, the publisher of them has something to do with the subject. So they don't go to notability. To show notability, you'll need several references from independent, reliable sources which are in-depth about the subject. Blogs, press releases, obits, and stuff from sites like flickr, fb, etc. won't work. Second, and the main reason I declined the article, is its tone. Just state facts, don't give opinions. Don't use peacock words. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

17:03, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Colorado Springs Shield

Onel5969. I had received notification that the seal was not in the public domain even after sighting several references. That was the reason for removal. Thank you, kar54. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kar54 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello,

I am currently working on Penka Kouneva's Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Penka_Kouneva) and I would like to make sure I understand everything that needs to be done in order to make sure we can publish this article correctly. We don't understand how IMDb is not a reliable source of information; numerous credentials come from this website. Heck, John Williams' Wikipedia page has 4 IMDb references. I understand the idea that anyone can edit IMDb, but after doing some research it seems like their process is similar to Wikipedia's. You ensure the info you want to submit is not listed, you create the page, you submit it for approval, a team takes a look and replies with answers, usually legit but a few cases of abuse have been reported. I honestly don't want to come off wrong here, I genuinely want to understand what makes it an unreliable page.

Kouneva has sent me a message to forward to you as well, please see below:

--- Dear Wiki editor,

Would you be able to suggest the best way to get a Wiki entry re-written and approved for this person. Would it be possible to hire a staff editor, how much would that cost and what is the timeline?

Penka is an industry leader. Similar entries already on Wiki about her colleagues and peers include:

-Sharon Farber -Austin Wintory -Scott Glasgow -Laura Karpman -Miriam Cutler

Would you recommend that we re-write this article to be more like these entries?

Thank you so much for your time and attention. With gratitude, Penka ---

Please help us at your earliest convenient so we can ensure successful publishing of the article. Thanks in advance.

Kdvr9 (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

This isn't a debate. imdb is not a reliable source. Period. It's not my opinion, but the consensus of Wikipedia editors. The fact you find it difficult to accept that does not make one want to help you. I'll put some links on your draft page which you should read, they might help you in developing the article. Arguing certainly won't. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:19, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

My intentions and tone were of bona fide doubt and lack of understanding of the subject. Everything I've read about how to write an article encourages individuals to ask questions. Thank you for your time. Kdvr9 (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

• Kirimaia (talk · contribs)
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Hello, I'm a new editor and on April 16 my submission 'Bill Schultz (Acrobat)' was rejected. I made the requested changes in the wording and resubmitted the article about two weeks ago. Since then, I keep seeing the note from Wiki 'the article has been resubmitted and is awaiting review'. Can you tell me about how long this usually takes? thx, k

Kirimaia (talk) 18:52, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kirimaia - It can take several weeks for an article to get reviewed. There are only a few of us who actually do most of the reviewing, and there are about 500 articles waiting currently. It shouldn't be much longer now, there are about 2 dozen which have been waiting longer than yours, so it should happen shortly. If not done in the next day or two, ask me again and I'll review it on Saturday. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:20, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

• Elterwater22 (talk · contribs)
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Dear Onel5969

I would be really grateful if you could give me a few tips as to why the article was rejected so that I can made the required amendments.

Many thanks

Hi Elterwater22 - You've already resubmitted, so let's let another editor take a crack at it. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

• Doncram (talk · contribs)
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Hi, i got your message about Draft:Clara Barton School. I just edited there, explaining that I could not create the disambiguation page im mainspace due to an editing restriction. Your creating a dab page by copying my work, though well-meaning, messed things up. What was needed was a move over redirect. Now it takes an admin to delete the version now at Clara Barton School, and then to move the draft to there. You might add a comment endorsing that, if you agree. Sorry to have caused the bother. I take this as feedback that I need to explain in a comment or otherwise why I have submitted a valid page to AFC rather than just putting it into mainspace myself. Thanks for your volunteering at AFC, which is good work to do. sincerely, --doncram 17:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

doncram 17:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi doncram - not really sure why that caused an issue, since you were the one who created the redirect page, but I've put my endorsement on the draft page - should you request the dab page delete? That's what I was going to do, but in the past, admins have said there was no need to do that, simply change the redirect into a dab. Sorry to have caused such a bother. One note, if your draft is moved, I would move the redlink to the bottom. Just a suggestion. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:25, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Greetings Onel5969,

I this note finds you well.

Thank you so much for your edits on my recently submitted Wikipedia page. I believe I have addressed all of you concerns, eliminating "peacock terms" and fixing the sources.

Unfortunately, there is one source that I have used 4 times (CPSA Courier) that does not provide the full name of the author of the article. My apologies for this.

I would appreciate any other feedback you have!

Thank you for your time. Here is the link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hubert_Massey

I hope to hear from you soon. Respectfully, Alfreeman19 (talk) 02:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)alfreeman19

Hi Alfreeman19 - I won't review it now that you've resubmitted, because there are still issues with it, but definitely correctible. First, when you use the same cite more than once, there is a proper way to do that. I've done the first one for you, to give you an example. You need to do that throughout the article. Second, there are what are known as raw hyperlinks in the article (e.g. University of London) - those need to be removed. If you wish to wikilink to an existing Wikipedia article, simply put brackets around the name, like this [[article name here]] - University of London. I'd also get rid of the awards section. None of them are very notable. This artist is notable enough for an article, but stuff like that makes it look promotional. Hit me up here after you've made the corrections and I'll move it to mainspace. Nice job. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

• AtulWikiacnt (talk · contribs)
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As per your comments I have edited again and resubmitted. This article I am creating for leading Kathak Exponent Uma Dogra from India. As this is my first article, need your guidance. AtulWikiacnt (talk) 02:54, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:PEACOCK words, like "legendary", "leading", "renowned", etc. Second, avoid commentary, such as "keep his legacy alive", "rich cultural heritage", and "working extensively towards promoting and preserving traditional ..." Get rid of a separate Awards section. You can add a line along the lines of, "she has won several local, regional and national awards, including the Sangeet Natak Akademi Award in 2014". The rest of the awards are non-notable, so mentioning them is purely a means to puff up the subject. I haven't checked it for notability. Can't while I'm at work, but those other issues are enough to get it declined again. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

17:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

• JJBlvcklist (talk · contribs)
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Vibe Magazine, XXL magazine, MTV News, Billboard... These are all very reputable sources. I'm not sure how that looks purely promotional... Can you elaborate please? JJBlvcklist (talk) 11:46, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

JJBlvcklist (talk) 11:46, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi JJBlvcklist- phrases like "equally known for his talents as an artist", "His reputation and resume is extensive", "After realizing his natural talents", and those are just in the first few sentences. Those are all highly pov. Also, there is an informal tone in other phrases like "Joey had taken himself from homeless, to making six figures", which are fine for a magazine puff piece, but don't belong in an encyclopedia article. Just state facts, give no commentary. Also, only use his surname after the initial mention of him in the lead. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

• Kirimaia (talk · contribs)
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Hi - I'm fairly new at this, and have a question about editing an article.

Kirimaia (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kirimaia - okay. If you ask the question, I'll attempt to answer. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

I guess I am confused as to what qualifies a subject notable and a source as an independent reliable source? I have several sources from news and business articles. What would the difference be in this franchise having a page and any other listed? Thanks for the help.

Alyssaw212 (talk) 16:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)Alyssaw212

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Big_Frog_Custom_T-Shirts_%26_More

Hi

WP:CORPDEPTH to see the bare minimum that companies are required to meet notability guidelines. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

17:56, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I saw other franchises with that sort of information so I figured it was valuable. I keep reading the 'requirements' for notability but I do not see why my sources wouldn't qualify. Thanks. Alyssaw212 (talk) 19:57, 13 May 2016 (UTC)Alyssaw212

Hello, My username is Xbytof. You commented on my talk page about an article I wrote titled Nacobbus and suggested that is a replicate of the similar article Nacobbus aberrans. I am new to Wikipedia and appreciate any feedback you may have. However, the article I wrote is about the genus Nacobbus whereas Nacobbus aberrans is one of its species. I don't mean to break any of Wikipedia's guidelines but I also do not believe that my article should be tagged to be removed. How can I improve it? Thank you for your input. Xbytof (talk) 20:31, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Xbytof - You did nothing wrong. Another editor has done some work on the article, to improve its formatting. And absolutely since it's about the genus, it deserves an article, welcome to Wikipedia. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

• Introduction and Getting started
• Contributing to Wikipedia
• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• How to edit a page and How to develop articles
• How to create your first article
• Simplified Manual of Style
• How to structure and layout your article
• On how to properly format your citations

Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:03, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Regarding your decision to decline

19:25, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

Everymorning - accomplished isn't the same thing as notable. The references mention him, but aren't about him. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:32, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

• AtulWikiacnt (talk · contribs)
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Thanks a lot for your assistance. I would mind them while editing. Actually I followed one page which is already a Wiki entry, this is for another Indian Kathak exponent Saswati sen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saswati_Sen). Uma Dogra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Uma_Dogra) for whom I am creating the page is almost at the same level. Thats why I followed that page. Even those terms which you are asking me to remove are taken from Saswati Sen page only. But I would remove them if they become reason of decline. Awards also are not at that local level. They are either national or state level. But if they too become reason of decline I would remove. Only thing is Wiki should have an entry for Uma Dogra. She is very senior in field of Kathak and has been active for last 42 years. Please guide me and help me in creating this page. Thanks a lot once again.

AtulWikiacnt (talk) 02:10, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

WP:PEACOCK words, or commentary, or opinion. Just facts. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:40, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

14:00:19, 15 May 2016 review of submission by 149.18.15.109

• 149.18.15.109 (talk · contribs)
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Could you be more specific as to what needs to be re-edited for the article to be approved? I have made some changes, but as this is my first Wiki article, I'm not sure what else you're looking for. If you can be specific and point to areas that need improvement, it'd be very helpful. Thanks.

149.18.15.109 (talk) 14:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi. First, might I suggest you create an account? It's free, and it makes communication a bit easier, although it is not a requirement. Second, get rid of all commentary and opinions; get rid of

WP:PEACOCK words. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Boris Levin

I saw that you were the original reviewer of this draft and that you declined it back on Feb 29. I was not the original creator of this draft but I do see that the subject is notable and deserves a mainspace article. I have added several sources dealing with the subject in depth and also corrected the date of death to correspond to the one given in the published obit (from Aug 22 to Aug 24). Please take another look. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 14:59, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nsk92 - Nice job. Just moved it to the mainspace. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:55, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Nsk92 (talk) 15:55, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi there. I recently uploaded a draft page "Tushar Unadkat" which you declined. I was hoping you would be able to tell me more specifically what I need to do to improve this page, as I've tried improving it already and I'm not sure if I should just give up. I could possibly edit the language a bit, but the trouble is I've tried being neutral and objective already (more factual and at distance). I also don't know if it's because of the sources... but I have since found a well-known physical magazine which was launched last month in India which praises his contributions to the South Asian community as well as a journal article which references his artworks, as well as a book Canada in My Views - Dr Mafatlal Patel which also notes his contribution to the community. Would this make it more appropriate for submission? As a social and cultural studies scholar I am engaged with his work so was hoping to get this out. Thank you, and all the best.

Hi - Right now the article reads like little more than a CV, which is a personal promotional piece. While accomplished, is he notable? The two are not synonymous on Wikipedia. The current references currently don't show that. For instance the Event Combo piece is a press release masquerading as an article (this happens frequently in Indian media). A dead giveaway is when an article provides contact information to the subject of the article. The CMCS and SAJA pieces are non-independent. The Reelworld is a PR, and the other two links are not operational, but simply looking at their titles, they are most likely not independent. What you need is in-depth coverage from at least 3 independent sources to show notability. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:23, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

• AtulWikiacnt (talk · contribs)
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Thanks for your suggestions and tips. I have edited the page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Uma_Dogra) and removed those WP:PEACOCK words from it. I have removed that separate award section also. Please review this page now. Hope it gets an acceptance.

AtulWikiacnt (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Much better AtulWikiacnt - You've resubmitted, so let's let another editor take a look at it. If it goes unreviewed for a few more days, shoot me a reminder, and I'll re-review it. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

This is in relation to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Robert_Valley

Firstly, I appreciate you may not have much time, so thank you for attending to this message.

I understand that there are not enough secondary sources to make the subject seem notable. However, there are two issues with this: 1. The domain of the subject's work does not, yet, make newsworthy copy for a mainstream audience, and is more likely to be covered by specialist blogs/videos, due to the nature of the work. 2. The subjects peers are often media shy about themselves and more interested in pushing work than individuals, if they go public at all. And by extension, don't often make a lot of noise about other artists in that field.

His work is very notable, indeed iconic, and any professional illustrator/animator worth their salt would attest to this. So can you advise on what alternate sources would be a appropriate? Or what can be done to further confirm wikipedia acceptable notability in absence of mainstream media coverage?

gsv_gravitas_zero Gsv gravitas zero (talk) 20:21, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gsv gravitas zero - To show notability you're going to need sources. They are out there. Click on the "News" link in the box on the draft. In addition to the Cartoon Brew piece you already use, there are enough other articles to show notability (e.g. Huffpo, Comic Book Resources, ComicsAlliance). Stay away from interviews with Valley, as they are primary sources, same with press releases. It's not going to be easy, but with a bit of effort, I think you can get this article published. Get rid of the YouTube reference, as it's not considered a reliable source, same with imdb. Also stay away from social media sites. Don't be afraid to ask questions. I usually respond once a day, but you can also get help at Wikipedia:Teahouse, if I'm not responding quickly enough for you. Finally, your first citation is properly formatted, make sure you get rid of any error messages in any cites. Good luck. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:41, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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This is my first attempt at creating a page and I chose my teacher because he was considered by many in the industry to be the greatest piccolo player of the twentieth century. I feel he deserves a page. He also was also a very modest man and kept any successes to himself. When he past away I, with the help of his colleagues in the Philadelphia Orchestra, prepared a memorial concert for him at the Academy of Music Ballroom and the Philadelphia Orchestra's archivist gave me copies of all sorts of wonderful newspaper clippings about him. I would like to share this information. So you know, I am not getting anything personally from creating his page.

I have gone back and tried to site third party Internet content where I can, but I'm finding it very difficult finding Internet content when dealing with a classical musician from this time period. Please tell me what you need so we can get his page up and running.

Thanks, 1Piccolois (talk) 04:02, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi 1Piccolois - looks like you've met the GNG guidelines. Article still has a tone issue, stuff like "was passionate" should be removed. Don't go into feelings and motivations, commentary or subjective views. Other than that, resubmit and I'll move it to the mainspace. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969,

I have submitted the article for Sydney Michael Hudson a few separate times now. (https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Sydney+Michael+%28Mike%29+Hudson%22&num=50) Right now I am working on changing the references that appear more than once so that they share a citation. Other than that, I believe it was denied due to unreliable sources. I changed many and added multiple new sources to the article, but still received a denial. The latest denial was not as clear to me. Can you please clarify what is causing the page to be denied? I have been working on this for over a week and feel I have corrected most errors, so any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Tdwilson (talk) 13:13, 16 May 2016 (UTC)tdwilson

Hi Tdwilson - The sourcing was the main issue, but not the only one. In addition to not having independent, reliable sourcing, the article, in its current form is a puff piece. The vast majority of the items in the "Accomplishments" list should be deleted. In fact, Wikipedia prefers prose to lists. If you can cite his involvement in a project, simply in the body of the article say, "In 19xx, Hudson was part of a team which did _______", but only if it's significant. Also, if a citation doesn't indicate him, get rid of it. Citations are of two sorts: 1 - to verify assertions in the article; and 2 - to show notability. Many of the citations you currently have are fine for the former, for example using the Marian U's magazine to show he's a member of their BoT is fine. But since they are non-independent sources, they do nothing to show the man's notability. To show notability, you need to have several articles which go in-depth about him, which are from reliable, independent sources. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:45, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello,

Thanks for the explanation. I have read Wikipedia's definition and descriptions of independent sources, but do not understand how the sources used in this article do not fall into this category. I will go ahead and get rid of sources that do not speak of him directly, but do my other sources work? Also, which portions of the accomplishments would you suggest getting rid of? I believe they all contribute to Hudson's life and efforts, so deleting most of it may lose the importance of his article. Would it be better to turn the accomplishments into prose rather than lists? Sorry for all of the questions, I would just like to get this approved in a timely manner and am new to this! Thank you again. tdwilson Tdwilson (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

References from sources that the subject had anything to do with (worked there, published a paper, belonged to) all are non-independent. The list of accomplishments can probably be summed up in a short paragraph or two. Everything from an advisory capacity down can be deleted. His fellowships can be summed up in a single sentence, such as "He was a member of several societies, including as a fellow of the (and pick the first two, maybe three at most). The development work can be summed up in a single sentence. Where I would spend time is on the first section, give a sentence, with dates and citations for each of those major projects. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:09, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

• 82.132.186.122 (talk · contribs)
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Thank you for reviewing my post on Khalid Aziz. I did not realise that this had been denied before and do not understand the reasons why now. How can we ensure that the post is approved?

There are four references referred to in the article that below to external independent sources:

http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/10476815.Naomi_House_hospice_s_outgoing_chairman_Khalid_Aziz_says_it_will_hard_to_say_goodbye/ https://www.enhamtrust.org.uk/about-enham-trust/how-we-are-run/meet-our-trustees https://www.sbs.ac.uk/academic-profiles/khalid-aziz http://www3.hants.gov.uk/lieutenancy/deputies.htm

In addition:

http://www.radioenham.co.uk/whats-on/something-for-the-weekend-dj-shaun-khalid-aziz/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubixdigital (talk • contribs) 18:20, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

82.132.186.122 (talk) 16:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubixdigital (talk • contribs) 16:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rubixdigital - It will be difficult to get this approved. It's been deleted twice, and the last time was almost salted (which means that to get it approved would really take admin approval). I did I search for this particular person with that name, and got virtually nothing which would show his notability. If you can come up with four or more in-depth articles from independent, reliable mainstream sources, that would be different. Right now, the article has zero of these. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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Why has it been rejected. He was a legend of his time. He has wrote number of Books which people still read today. His Prabhat na Pusha books are still famous. His stamp was released by President Pratibha Patil. So please check the references and do review again.

Chitralekhamag - please read the guidelines for notability, then read the guidelines on how to format citations. Then read the guidelines on what qualifies as a reliable source. Blogs, youtube, non-independent sources - you need to get rid of all of them. Then get rid of the wordpress sites (non-reliable), sites like Amazon, etc. Not sure what you have left. Then, you have to write the article in a neutral tone. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:13, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I have looked at the

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Keng Papon

Keng Papon (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)Keng PaponKeng Papon (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC) topic Surachai Chantimathorn Sorry to disturb you,sir. But my sources is also appeared in wiki thai page. Yes,it is in Thai but I'd say those sites are quite reliable in Thailand. My purpose is making this article published on wiki. All of my words didnt support and advetise anybody in any role in any way too. Ive spend a lot of time making this article so please let it on the wiki page

Hi, Onel! I have a question back for you, since I know you work in the film and entertainment areas. It's about the article Darrell McNeil. I declined BLP PROD on that article and have been working on it - trimming a massive amount of puffery and adding references. But I don't know what to do about the "filmography" sections. They seem to be listing everything he ever worked on, credited or not, sourced or not, right down to "background extra". In the article they explain why his work was often uncredited. He is mentioned several Wikipedia articles including Super Friends, Wonder Twins, and Space Sentinels, and I have even seen signed cels of his for sale at Ebay, so he is definitely notable in the industry. But I just don't know if those long filmography sections are allowed. You are familiar with this Wiki subject, what do you think? --MelanieN (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi MelanieN - Unlike actors, uncredited work by behind the scenes folk, unless it can be cited by an independent source, shouldn't appear in the article, in my opinion. So that should wipe out the majority of the list. I have some articles with over 200 films in the filmography section (see Robert Emmett Keane), but all of those are cited by a reliable source. I feel the same way about the "other work" section. If you can't cite it, then it becomes problematic. Regardless of length, the filmography should at least be in columns, if not a table. The length of the filmography isn't the issue, it's being able to verify what the filmography contains. Hope that makes sense. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. One of the things I trimmed from the article (it was loaded with fluff) was a comment that this article represents the first complete compilation of everything the guy has done - in other words, original research all the way. I will trim out the uncredited/unsourced stuff. I will probably keep the things listed at IMDb, even though I know we don't consider it "reliable". After I trim it (I'm busy offline so it may take a day or two), I'll see if I can figure out how to format it better. --MelanieN (talk) 16:14, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Now worries. If you need any help, I do a fair amount of these types of articles, so you know where to find me. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:01, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Onel5969, thanks for your help in making my first page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Uma_Dogra) much better than before. But its still in a review stage. Please re-review it. just a gentle reminder.

AtulWikiacnt (talk) 02:20, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

• Debdel123 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Philip Lowe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Not sure why my submission was rejected (first time I tried this). I think Philip Lowe deserves to be on wikipedia because he will soon a very prominent central banker. He deserves a mention even with his current role as deputy governor of the RBA Debdel123 (talk) 06:37, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi

HERE), which someone has to meet to be eligible for an article. Notability is related to, but not the same as prominence or accomplished. To show notability, you'll need at least 3 in-depth articles about Lowe, from independent, reliable sources. Independent means that Lowe has not relationship with the site (can't have worked, written for, etc). Reliable means that the site has editorial oversight. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Less than an hour ago, you nominated this page for speedy deletion as G13. That is good. However, you provided a message on my talk page. I must have done something to it in November 2015 so that your script thought that I was its author. I was not its author; I must have done something to it in reviewing it. I will notify User:Jesse Moa. However, at this point, it is hard to determine what happened because the article is now invisible except to administrators. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

No. I won't notify that editor. That editor has not been active for six months, when they were trying to publicize their brewery. If they came here only for advertising and went away, I won't worry about them. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:53, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Robert McClenon - First of all, thank you for the hard effort you put in over at AfC. Second, yeah, that happens from time to time. When using the AfC review tool at the G13 queue, it automatically sends a template message to the editor it decides was the submitter. Sometimes it is because you might have moved the page. There's nothing I can do about it when using the tool, my apologies for any inconvenience this has caused. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Since it was a sandbox, I didn't move it, unless I first moved the sandbox to draft space and then declined the draft, leaving a redirect. Maybe the draft was then speedied as promotional, and the redirect was either left standing or blanked or something. We don't know or care. Thank you for cleaning out the crud. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:21, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

• Dega (talk · contribs)
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Hi,

Please review my edited draft article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Karen_Civil . I had delete all promotional and advertising context like. If there's any suggestion to do another edit, let me know for being the better and eligible Wikipedia article.

Cheers,

Dega ^TalkToMe 17:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dega - I see you've resubmitted, so let's let another editor have a whack at it. If I reviewed it at the moment, I would still decline it for tone and a non-neutral pov. Avoid commentary and praise. Simply state facts. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:45, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

We've submitted the subject 'Draft' twice (with edits in the second request to improve the independent source data), and it has been rejected both times. We're not sure how to further improve this. Mitch Anthony is a published author and speaker with 15 published books, 8 of which were published major publishing houses; all are available on Amazon. We've attempted to include verifiable, independent and reliable information as is required. Any further help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAZigmund (talk • contribs) 18:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi CAZigmund - Wikipedia requires that a subject meet certain notability requirements. Right now the sources you have are, for the most part, not independent of the subject. In other words, he has some connection to the publication, or are dead links (the financial planning.com), or are not reliable sources (thinkadvisor.com). That leaves you with a single independent source which talks about Anthony (Wollman - although you need page numbers for that citation). What you need are at least 2 other in-depth articles from reliable, independent sources. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:52, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

• Ant1924 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Tempest (festival) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi reviwer i am antriksh i wanted to know where my article laged beacuse it is a genuine thing that i put up what else can i do to get it verified

Ant1924 (talk) 08:20, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ant1924 - Please read the notability guidelines. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:53, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that you interacted with ZH8000 some time ago. So did I recently, and I found their contributions and method of interaction with others questionable at best. I'm considering whether to initiate a discussion with them about this, and if need be, a community discussion. Would you be interested in participating in these discussions? Regards,  Sandstein  17:29, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Sandstein - I value your contributions, and while I don't always agree with you, I think you are an asset to the project. I honestly don't remember my interaction with ZH8000 - I try to avoid conflict, although sometimes it's virtually impossible. I would definitely give any discussion you began a serious looksee, and if I felt I could add value to the discussion I would definitely participate. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:56, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello Onel5969. The new source I added referencing Mr. Solomon's appointment to VidaPrimo, was an article written by VideoAge International, which is a trade magazine for the film and broadcasting industry. The first source I added was a press release, but the Video Age article was not. Please review the article and advise why this is not considered a good source. Thanks so much. http://www.videoageinternational.net/2016/05/08/hall-of-fame/michael-j-solomon-a-master-salesman-for-hollywood-and-a-marketing-genius/. Here is a link to the Wikipedia article for your reference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jay_SolomonLG Brichetto (talk) 17:46, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi LG Brichetto - The VideoAge cite is excellent. Only problem is it doesn't appear to mention VidaPrimo, which is what the added info is about. The VidaPrimo reference is a press release. Hope that helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:01, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

• Singertreid (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mark Singer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
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I'm requesting a re-review because I believe I have resolved the issues brought up by Onel5969.

Firstly, I've added details about the subject of this article to make it clear that the subject is notable, and worthy of mention in an encyclopedia. This includes a section on Mark Singer's well-publicized exchange with Donald Trump, the property developer and TV personality who is the presumptive Republican nominee for president.

Since Mark Singer has been a staff writer at The New Yorker for many years, articles in The New Yorker may not always constitute an independent source, and so I've also added references from prominent, reliable, independent sources, including The Washington Post, The New York Times, and Politico.

Hi Singertreid - Looks like you've already resubmitted, so I'll let another editor have a whack at it. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:03, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello. The Census estimates for 2015 are now out, and I was thinking of updating the list in the morning. Last year you updated the tables with the 2014 numbers, so I was wondering if you are in the process of crafting the new tables, or if I can go ahead tomorrow with it. Dralwik|^{Have a Chat} 07:42, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dralwik - No, I hadn't intended to do that this weekend, so please do! It's a tedious task. Good luck with it, I look forward to seeing it when you've finished! Take care. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:00, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, you turned down

; and virtually every railway line has a book (or part of a book) dedicated to its history and these universally list the stations on the line.

But in this case, it should have been turned down as covering the same topic as Turton and Edgworth railway station. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Redrose64 - I don't disagree with your assessment, but when I select a rationale for the decline, I also try to see it in the eyes of the person who created the article. I could have used the decline as improperly sourced (since it contains 0 sources). When the article's submitter looks at the decline notice, however, I didn't think that the verbiage in the improperly sourced one would work, or at least I felt the wording from non-notable, "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", would make it more apparent to that editor what was needed.

I honestly hadn't reached the point of checking for existing articles, and I'm not sure that I would have caught it. The draft mentions it being on one line, while the article has another line. There is a cross reference to Chapel Town, but being unfamiliar with the line (being from the US), I'm not sure I would even have known that there was an existing article, since if I had felt it was properly sourced, I would have been allowed to move the article to mainspace. I have to think on this to figure out how to avoid incorrectly moving stuff to the mainspace in the future. Any suggestions? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:08, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

It's the same line, "Bolton to Blackburn Railway line" is descriptive if not historically accurate (British railway lines are traditionally not called "A to B", instead they are "A and B" to indicate that traffic was not unidirectional); "

Blackburn Railway

.

If it's a railway matter, send a note to

WT:UKRAIL wouldn't go amiss. There are dozens of us hanging around those pages, you'll probably get a response same day from somebody sufficiently knowledgeable. --Redrose64 (talk

) 22:48, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

20:51:40, 21 May 2016 review of submission by Theboxny

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Hello there, I do not understand the nature of this decline when there are many sources and all are reliable.. can you please review it again and note all the sources including the external links? Thanks Theboxny (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Theboxny - It's not that they are not reliable (for the most part), but the quality and type. In some instances, it's that the article is written by Baitel, and is not about him. In other instances, others, like the NYT piece on Mana Contemporary, are mere mentions of Baitel, and don't go in-depth about him. And blogs are rarely considered reliable sources. What you need are about 3 articles about Baitel. For example if the NYT piece I just mentioned had been about Baitel, rather than about the organization, that would have worked well. Hope that helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

A lot of the award sources are independent and publicly available. I've use the same format as many other companies they seem to have been approved and public. I've also written the whole topic in Prose format and even had independent wiki users review it. can you assist me how to change it. --Mahmoodyaqub (talk) 09:00, 22 May 2016 (UTC)mahmoodyaqub

Hi Mahmoodyaqub - It reads like a promotional brochure for the company. Get rid of the services section, only customers are interested in that. Get rid of the awards section. None are notable, and therefore its just filler to puff up the importance of the company. Get rid of the key partners section. Sentences such as "establishing the group as the local sponsor and promoter in United," "best Money Management Services to help expats in Dubai," "was awarded "Best Boutique Asset Management Company – UAE", and the entire second paragraph in the lead are all promotional. The first paragraph in the lead is also promotional. Also, on another note, raw links (like that to Centaur Holdings), should be removed. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:49, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

• 67.9.151.198 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Chris Fuller (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey there, I created my first article last night and went through great pains to find a number of sources. I really don't know what else one can do as I see many, many articles on Wikipedia that are less notable and have less reliable sources (see "Jeremy Saulnier" and "Ronald Bronstein" for reference). Do you have any tips for improving this Chris Fuller article? I would certainly think a film director who created an award-winning film in wide release with another in production would qualify as notable, particularly with sources such as the NY Times, the Museum of Modern Art and the most reputable film publications in the country in IndieWire and Filmmaker Magazine. His works already have Wikipedia entries, as do most of the participants in his works, yet the filmmaker himself does not. Would greatly appreciate any advice as I struggle to think of more reliable sources than the ones listed and his notability is confirmed by the presence of his works on Wikipedia.

Update: I just added additional sources in the LA Times, LA Weekly and St. Petersburg Chamber of Commerce. Looking forward to your feedback.

67.9.151.198 (talk) 16:28, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

It's such a coincidence that I happened upon this draft at AfC, since I have

WP:ENTERTAINER. Sorry, wish I could be more encouraging. The article is structured and formatted well. But it has the issue which you see in a lot of marginally notable (or not-notable by wiki standards) articles about people/companies, of coming across as a puff piece. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

22:02, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to give such a thoughtful response. I'm still working on the article as there are other notable aspects to the filmmaker, such as his entrepreneurship and history in the tech world. I'm working on refining it and adding more sources. That said, I didn't see anything in the guidelines that mention a requirement that there be more than 1 notable work for a person to be considered notable. I had a lengthy discussion with some mods on the Wiki Live Chat and they seemed to think it was pretty close to being able to be approved. Also, if you use "director" instead of "filmmaker" in your searches and also append "meatman" to his name, you'll get more articles about his filmmaking the startups he's been involved in. All that said, I'll keep after it! Thanks again!

Update: Just for reference, I'd been following the guidelines for Creative Professionals (which, according to my interpretation, the subject meets) after the Live Chat mods pointed me to that one. Maybe this is where our discrepancies come into play? It's at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.9.151.198 (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

• 159.46.196.41 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Dahiyat al-Assad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
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Hey, I saw you declined the Dahiyat al-Assad article. I took the information and the source from the Rif Dimashq offensive (September 2015)-article. Most of its references are to the same source. I don't know whether you can do anything with it, but I just wanted to let you know. Thanks! 159.46.196.41 (talk) 08:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

• Ekely (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bull.Miletic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
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Hello,

I am contacting you in regards to my article on Bull.Miletic. I would really like to learn how can I improve it in order to be published. My main motivation in writing this article is the fact that Bull.Miletic is already listed on two reputable Wikipedia sources. Bull.Miletic's work has been exhibited globally for over 15 years and they definitely have a status in the art world. Perhaps I am not encoding the references correctly? Any help would be highly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.

Ekely (talk) 11:43, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

• Flashpepi (talk · contribs)
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I have added citations, deleted citations and tidied up the format of my article Marc Clark (sculptor). Could you please review and suggest any further changes, as neccessary, before I re-submit the article,

Thanks,

John Flashpepi (talk) 01:56, 25 May 2016 (UTC)Flashpepi (talk) 08:25, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I have been advised to make further changes which I have done,

cheers,

JohnFlashpepi (talk) 09:05, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Can you please assist now. I've made the requested changes wrote it in Prose format. Removed services and all keeping it precise to the briefest information on company. Cited very credible independent source referring back to the company. What else can would you suggest. Thanks for your assistance so far. --Mahmoodyaqub (talk) 11:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

• Etaft (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Jewish Partisan Educational Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs
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Hi, thanks for your feedback -- I'm new to wikipedia writing. I think I fixed the issues with reliable sourcing. Added several links, replaced one or two others. Is this sufficient, or do more lines need sources?

03:39:29, 26 May 2016 review of submission by Tdeblase94

• Tdeblase94 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Margherita Datini (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I do not understand why Margherita Datini is for some reason not considered "notable" enough, so I would certainly appreciate a re-review. I used nearly all the references available for her, including the excellent work done by historian Ann Crabb; Datini is fully deserving of a Wikipedia page as the writing she did was important to Prato's merchant politics and the role of women during the time. I worked very hard on this research and I'm extremely disappointed that the entry did not go through. I think a great amount of people could benefit from learning about her life.

• 121.128.1.17 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Rachel Leng (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you so much for the review and feedback. I checked the references you recommended for more information and am wondering if you had any more specific requests about how to improve the page with regards to citations specifically. There are many other beauty pageant titleholders who are included in Wikipedia who have much fewer citations concerning coverage or interviews on newspapers and international media. Should I remove some information to simply make it more basic and only have information on the page that was covered by newspapers and television?

Thank you very much for your time and help.

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Would it be possible to help me understand exactly what I need to do in order that my submission might be accepted;I understand that rejections are most common because of lack of references, a lack of notability, and too much bias in the writing style. Regarding the first two, could you let me know if the following would be a good start and I am on the right track:

Notability: attaching links to Biographies etc, of the founder members, together with the council members, Also, I would put the Professional Standards ie EQA etc, in long hand afterwards. Validation: In the Professional Standards paragraph, if I write the acronyms out in full ; Credibility: if I can provide examples of where the professional Standards have been used maybe

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Regards

14:21:51, 26 May 2016 review of submission by Hannah Quarantine

• Hannah Quarantine (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Quarantine Manchester (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm trying to set up a page for theatre company, Quarantine. My draft has been rejected because it reads 'more like an advert than an encyclopaedia entry'. It was rejected previously on the 12 May for the same reason, with the comment that it contained 'peacock language.' I tried to amend it by taking out what might be read as 'peacock language' but clearly there is still a problem - is there anything else I can do to make the draft more acceptable? Would I be right in guessing that this is no longer an issue of language, but of the fact that many of the references link the Quarantine's website? Advice/guidance would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Hannah.

I just happened to click a link to your user page today and noticed the semi-retirement message. Thank you for your work, especially at AfC. Best, /wiae /tlk 15:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello. I am sorry to start a new section, but I cannot find my original note. The mention of Solomon's role with VidaPrimo is at the bottom of the Video Age article I used as a source. The first source I used was a press release. The second one from Video Age was not. Please adviseLG Brichetto (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

• Gsv gravitas zero (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Robert Valley (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'm not sure I'm doing this right. Can you let me know if there's anything more needed on the Robert Valley submission? If not, is there anything else I need to to as the queue position seems to be rising rather than going down. Thank you for your time and patience.

• TJ847 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:MerryMakr (2) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Onel5969,

Would it possible to point out the unsatisfactory parts of my article, ie. the sources, or the written copy in certain sections? I have made a couple of edits over the past month but they might have been in the wrong direction.

Thanks for everything thus far!

Dear Onel5969,

Thank you for flagging up your concerns re: notability. I am collecting evidence to rectify this and hope to demonstrate Professor Anderson's notability to your satisfaction very soon.

Kind regards. DrArminius (talk) 20:35, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Sharvesb (talk) 03:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)== Request on 03:39:13, 31 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Sharvesb ==

• Sharvesb (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Putrajaya Perdana Berhad (PPB) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi,

I would like to check why the edited submission for my draft is still under review. It stated as 7 days but it has been close to 11 days since submission but there has been no feedback. Do let me know. Thanks.

Do take note that formatting and reference to the company's websites and sources have been edited to suit your editors comments. Do let me know if there's anything further.

Sharvesb (talk) 03:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

• Scomma (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Page365 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, could you please inform us, how is the references that we use are not notable or verifiable? those are all the information that we have about page365. This Page365 is very similar with soldsie, thus we would like to make similar article about the sample of social commerce.

You can't link directly to census data. The previous link was not the actual citation either. There's no point in reverting. And way to make it harder for me instead of simply asking. Scythe33 (talk) 20:22, 31 May 2016 (UTC)