User talk:Philafrenzy/Archive 27

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

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Thank you. Merry Christmas to you too. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:13, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

Hello Philafrenzy, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019. Happy editing, Whispyhistory (talk) 08:29, 25 December 2018 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thank you very much. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:33, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
	Hi Philafrenzy, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,    –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 08:47, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you and the same to you Davey. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:33, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you RedRose, may your boiler always be full of steam! Philafrenzy (talk) 15:39, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Philafrenzy. I wonder where you're going with List of public dispensaries. The definition at the top of the article says, in essence, 'out-patient facilities", of which there must be 10s of thousands across the world. The US examples listed are contemporary hospitals. The UK examples listed are historic dispensaries, long since merged into contemporary hospitals or closed. It's far from clear to me what your aim is. Would you care to clarify? thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 08:27, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes, it's a list of public dispensaries. I hesitate to say that it has an historic focus as there are undoubtedly many that still operate but there certainly are numerous historic dispensaries that can be added. Such list articles provide an overview and an incoming link and operate in a way that categories don't as I am sure you know. I think the U.S. examples all had origins in public dispensaries but feel free to remove any you feel don't belong. Inevitably there is some overlap here. I will add more later as the articles are created. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:58, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

So you are wanting things that are or were called 'dispensary', but not wanting, for instance, an out-patient department in a UK hospital which was not called a dispensary? And wanting only those with wikipedia articles, or all such things? --Tagishsimon (talk) 09:03, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

It is a matter of judgement in each case and there may be overlap but the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh, for instance, define a dispensary as providing "outpatient medical treatment and advice to patients, in contrast to the inpatient service provided by hospitals". So the focus is on organisations that provide primarily outpatient services, not primarily inpatient services. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:08, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

That is where the confusion for me arises. Many hospitals provide both out- and in- patient care; they might, for instance, dedicate more of the area of the hospital to in-patients, but see by volume more out-patients than in-patients. Sorry to keep on about it, but without a robust definition of scope, it's not easy to see what should & what should not be included. --Tagishsimon (talk) 09:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I agree there is overlap so we can keep it to those that seem clear cases. e.g Surrey Dispensary. I don't mind if you remove some that you feel don't fit. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Can the historical dispensaries in London be a separate category? Whispyhistory (talk) 10:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

The term dispensary is in itself archaic in the UK so why not just Dispensaries in London as a sub-category of D's in the UK? You might need to create D's in England as an intermediate category. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:51, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I like "Dispensaries in London". The Aldersgate one looks interesting, but I'm not too good at doing buildings. I think @Edwardx: might have a look too. St Martins was branch of the Warwick lane one. Thankyou. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:16, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, can you help with

Congratulations, it's an impressive article. I think the italics are because it is a legal case and you are using that infobox but you are not currently using the full case name of Rose v Royal College of Physicians. You might have to move it. Are you intending to DYK it? Amusing circularity in the Wikipedia sourcing on the dates. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:21, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Easily fixed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:36, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

What about a move to the case title? (italicised) Are law cases always known by their legal titles? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you @Philafrenzy: and @Redrose64:.

• The common name for the case is the "Rose case". Does that matter?
• It starts with Rose vs RCP but ends with Society of Apothecaries vs RCP.
• I can dyk it. Maybe you can help here too.
• I found landmark court case examples. They are all in italics including The Moorcock and Bushel's Case.

I moved it to the proper legal name as most are in that form. It also gives the article a lot more weight IMHO and makes it obvious what it is about. You can still talk about the Rose Case within the article for short. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:04, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

• I found this category "Category:Public dispensaries". We did some dispensary articles previously eg Surrey Dispensary. Do they go here? Alternatively, can there be a category for London dispensaries or UK dispensaries? Or a page for list of London dispensaries. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:49, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Started List of public dispensaries. There are probably 100s missing. Can you do them before lunch please? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

😆 It looks good. London had many particularly Warwick lane dispensary, St Martin's lane [1].Whispyhistory (talk) 07:48, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Please use your expertise in hookiness to sort this Rose v Royal College of Physicians. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. One request...practice and practise is all muddled in the article. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:22, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

It's British spelling in that one so change as necessary (unless in a quote). There are other deficiencies too, such as the captions to the images which are poorly formatted. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

What is the relevance of the disgruntled physician? Is it in any of the sources with commentary? That Apothecaries Hall is not 1805 and has a notable artist. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:09, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

sorry, removed. You did a good job with images. Thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 11:22, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, fix the hall please. The artist details are in Commons. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Don't think RCP were in Pall Mall at the time? And can't find that image in Old and New London. Changed it pro tem. (John Seale gets around) Philafrenzy (talk) 13:32, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

RCP building burnt down in 1666 and they moved to Warwick Lane, then moved to Pall Mall around 1825ish. Thanks for noticing. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:15, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Can you get "The Doctor and the Buccaneer: Hans Sloane's Case History of Henry Morgan." Journal of the History of Medicine 41 (1986): 76–87. For Fulke? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:53, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Got it https://www.jstor.org/stable/24633817 p. 85. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:08, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

[2]. Can you get image or add to Singh? Whispyhistory (talk) 23:09, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Link doesn't work. Millipede and oil of scorpion fed to a pirate is a killer hook for Rose. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:16, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

On 31 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Parsi Lying-in Hospital, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that among the babies born at the Parsi Lying-in Hospital was the Indian politician Feroze Gandhi? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Parsi Lying-in Hospital. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Parsi Lying-in Hospital), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

On 2 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John R. Seale, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1980s British physician John R. Seale advocated the theory that HIV might have been created in a germ warfare laboratory? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John R. Seale. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, John R. Seale), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

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• Arlene Hirschfeld had 2 reviews. Does it count as 2 QPQ's. If so, there are a couple I did like this.
• Can you check Manmohan Singh (pilot) please? Whispyhistory (talk) 10:40, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy new year. As far as I know, Hirschfield and the house only counts as one review as it is one nomination even though it covers two articles. I have seen them with five or more linked new articles in the same hook but it would be a brave reviewer who took on one like that. I will look at Singh in more detail later. You might be right about that Nicholl merchant but my book says the house was built for him after our article says he died. Needs more research. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:21, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks...I think Manmohan Singh should be Man Mohan Singh. He signed his name Man Mohan Singh. The Australian website wrote it as Manmohan. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Done, the 1930 newspaper article had it Man Mohan Singh. Great article. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:32, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

OMG..you did some amazing editing. Thank you. Feel free to alter hooks if need. I did really like this story. He is still talked about at Croydon Airpot. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:30, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Nice link on Stag Lane. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:52, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

There's a possible joke hook about missing India but perhaps he deserves better. This, however, could be in the article or even the basis for a hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Add another ALT if wish. I think he enjoyed joking about it. Should proposed hook be simpler eg MMS flew Miss India form Croydon to Karachi alone? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:15, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I have been following you since the RfA happened. Just wanted to drop by and convey my regards - you're an immensely prolific creator. How do you get the time? You are definitely an inspirational Wikipedian to me. Csgir (talk) 12:32, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Csgir! It just becomes a habit I suppose. You can create a long stub or a start level article every day by spotting something in a book or newspaper, creating a stub in the morning, adding a bit at lunchtime, and a bit more in the evening. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:12, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

On 4 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning of 1922 was the first recorded outbreak of botulism in the United Kingdom? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Loch Maree Hotel botulism poisoning), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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– Ianblair23 (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi..Can you help here please; Christian Cabrol.

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• check political section
• I used medical person infobox. Is that correct or should it be officeholder? thank you Kindly Whispyhistory (talk) 17:50, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Trying to finish Fulke Rose first. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:16, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Whispyhistory (talk) 20:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Eligible for a 5x expansion DYK from 3 Jan as I expect you know. Will do more later. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Still needs a lot of work..I'll work on it.Whispyhistory (talk) 18:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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HI...P.Hugh-Jones is notable....coined type 1, 2 and J diabetes. J is for Jamaica. His article on it 1955 is way ahead of its time. Can you create it? If I may please, request a search for an image on Herbert Seddon. I'll review the article. He saw to Churchill and you may have an alternative hook for this. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:33, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. The University College Jamaica is very interesting. I once worked there too. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:06, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Did you deliver any babies? Were they the descendants of our recent article subjects perhaps? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:14, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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