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Loadsa Pics!

I uploaded a heap of my own pics of various markings, colours etc.

I have no idea how to show you where they are! (PippaRivers (talk) 18:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Someone showed me :o)

http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&since=&until=&img_user_text=PippaRivers&order=-img_timestamp&max=25&order=-img_timestamp&format=html

There they are! Have fun with them. (PippaRivers (talk) 18:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Oops ..... no categories :-( Do you want to play with those, or can you tell me how to do it? I'm far too novice on here! (PippaRivers (talk) 18:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Catted them for you. Categories in Commons work just like they do here, with the same code. I like to use HotCat, it makes catting a whole lot easier and quicker. And btw... that's some frosty rabicano! Are they all New Forest ponies? Pitke (talk) 20:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bless you for catting them! I am still far too much of a newbie on here, but I'm sure I'll catch on someday :o) Most of them are either pure-bred or part-bred Foresters (and several of them are mine, as they're the ones I can get closest too, most often). Bless you even more - you've inspired me with a reason to take some 'me time' and go out on the Forest colour-and-markings hunting for some more good pics. The frosty rabicano is one I came across regularly some years ago whilst hunting for my gelding (the flaxen chestnut who also donated the leg-markings and hair whorls pics). It took three days of walking (cold, wet, exhausted) to locate him to bring him home, even though we knew he'd likely be within a mile of the centre-point of his 'haunt'. Finding your pony, who runs free on several thousand hectares of Forest with loads of cool hiding places, is a lot more problematical than finding him in his own field at home! What did you think of that striking dun-appy foal? I know where a good blue-dun-tobiano usually hangs out ..... if I can find her, I will get some pics for you. We have some amazing combinations out here on the Forest; my chestnut (Sunny) has evidence of sooty, rabicano, pangare, sabino-type and splash-type white markings, as well as his more obvious chestnut and flaxen. And we have some really nice rabicanos - skunk-tails, coon-tails, frosty rump-mantles, topline frosting, and some seriously cool rabicano-classic hybrids who show up with lovely marbling effects on their coats. (PippaRivers (talk) 09:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Assistance with French horse breed

We have someone who knows the topic trying to clean up

Camargue (horse), but their English is not great. My French is confined to about 20 words so I'm not sure my cleanup of their cleanup has the nuance right. But you know a smattering of French, so maybe could you trot over there and see if we are making a royal mess of things? Or help make the mes even worse? Or something? Merci! Montanabw(talk) 21:04, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply
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What a coincidence... my Mum has been translating that very article from French to Finnish just a week ago or so! She consulted me for vocabularity and basic knowledge for all the horsey things, so I actually know the article. She compained it was a mess in French though, too inexact and stuff. I'd direct you straight to her, but even if her English and French are better than mine, she suffers from the handicap of knowing next to nothing about horses. I'll have a look-see as soon as I can get back to Net on my lappy for multi tab browsing. That should be today evening. Pitke (talk) 06:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! This is starting to remind me of the translation efforts needed by
Lewis and Clark. English to French to Hidatsa to Shoshone to Nez Perce and back. Somehow they got all the way to the Pacific Ocean and back, though. I guess it means that patience works! Montanabw(talk) 08:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Oooohhh, multiple between-languages-translations! I can't remember the third language involved, but the first two were English and Russian, and the phrase was "Out of sight, out of mind," ...... and it came back after going the other way as "Invisible idiot." (PippaRivers (talk) 20:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Dartmoor Hill Ponies

Hey there Pitke! I created a cat for Dartmoor Hill Ponies over in Commons, and sorted through some of the 'Dartmoor Pony' pics to put them in the right place. Someone undid one of my moves almost as I was doing it, saying there was no such thing as a Dartmoor Hill Pony, so I bunged a brief explanation plus links to both the Dartmoor Pony Society and the Dartmoor Hill Pony Association onto the talk page for each pic I moved. I'm just going to nip over there and see if they've all stayed put, or whether some of them have strayed back out of their paddock and got over into the wrong place again, lol!(btw, this is still Pippa here, I just went incognito on the name :-) ) (ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 10:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

I see what you did there, good job. Took the liberty to cat some tobianos into the Dartmoor Hill Category. Pitke (talk) 13:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. I learn something every day. Never knew there were two breeds. See Dartmoor pony. For now, I suggest keeping both in the same article until or unless there is enough sourced material to split them out. Montanabw(talk) 18:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Add a Cat, please?

Hey there, I still can't work out how to add a cat to an existing pic!

File:ChestnutNFxTB.jpg wants to be categorised as non-NF ponies running the Forest - could you please do that for me? (ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 04:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

I don't know what happened, but it's been in that cat for at least a week. Are you sure you were looking at the image's Commons page? Files linked like this as opposed to this or this first direct you to an automatically generated Wikipedia page with a link to the Commons. Pitke (talk) 07:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I bet that's what happened -- the image on wikipedia appears to be redlinked in the cats, when at Commons it's properly set up. Montanabw(talk) 23:07, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
summink like that, yep! ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 16:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

jpg and png

Hey Pitke, thanks for the crop on the KimBERwick photo (grin, I know, just being an annoying Yankee). Question, though: Seems like you do a lot of images in .png format, which seems to be a lot larger, slower to open and more apt to be quirky on some browsers. (definitely can be a problem for me when I'm working at home on the old dialup...) Just wondering if there was a logical reason you're doing that -- my understanding is that wiki-world likes photos to be .jpg and save .png for things like maps and diagrams. Not a mortal sin, just inquiring. Montanabw(talk) 03:34, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just my software and old habits really. Can try and fix it. Pitke (talk) 09:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! I really like PNGs for diagrams, much superior to GIF, and diagrams usually not all that large of a file size. But when I'm home on the dialup (as opposed to goofing off at work on the high-speed), the photo jpgs load a lot faster! I feel like a Luddite and why they won't run a damn cable two miles down the country road beats me, but there you have it! Montanabw(talk) 05:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Want a Laugh?

Check out the Notorious Prehistoric Zombie Elk. And pray you never meet it on a dark night ..... ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 16:25, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Red links

Hi Pitke, You could kill a couple of redlinks by creating short stub or start-class articles. Scandinavian Coldblood would be my first pick -- that's a type including several breeds, yes?? Maybe some other related terms too. Just a thought. Montanabw(talk) 22:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see no support for the idea of a group of breeds called "Scandinavian coldbloods", other than the fact that North Swedish Drafts, Dole Gudbrandsdal horses, and another Swedish/Norwegian breed whose I fail to recall now, and the mixes between these three, and Finnhorses just happen to be matched evenly enough to be raced fairly agains each other. The group of trotters excludes the Fjord Horse and the Iceladic, "Scandinavian" excudes the Finnhorse, "coldblood" could exclude as much as three breeds, and I'm sort of having feelings that the people breeding the pony-size Lyngshest/Nordlandshest won't have ther animals called ay other than "real" horses. So potential four non-coldboods here. Pitke (talk) 14:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, but that's precisely the thing. We outsiders need to understand that there is a term for a type, just like we have
gaited horse, stock horse and, arguably, warmblood. We have some articles that break down other horses by competition class, such as in the various hunter/jumper/hack articles. So one way or another, a linked explanation of the term would be VERY useful. For example, I already DID assume that the Finnhorse was a "Scandanavian coldblood." See the problem? ;-) Maybe if you aren't up for an article, could you at least add a definition to the Glossary of equestrian terms so we can link to it as needed? (The glossary would need a source, though, we can get away with dodgy sourcing on stub articles, FYI) Montanabw(talk) 21:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply
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ERROR: No source available. Pitke (talk) 17:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, no article for you. I refuse to do one on a foo term. Pitke (talk) 17:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Montana, where did you see the term "Scandanavian coldblood"? From what Pitke is saying, it sounds like this isn't a group that sources put together, unlike gaited horses, stock horses or warmbloods, which are common groupings made by just about any source on the subject. If no sources group these breeds together as "Scandanavian coldbloods", then cobbling together an article on the "term" would be major OR. Dana boomer (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
None other than our own dear Pitke redlinked it here, it's used in a couple articles and a photo: [1]. So if it's a "foo word," it's Pitke's foo word (grin and Noogies). May want to add an entry to the glossary. Montanabw(talk) 20:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed Faksen, and the other instance is a work's title where it means "Swedish and Norwegian coldblood trotter breeds" as a term of convenience. No glossary entry. Maybe one for "coldblood trotter". Pitke (talk) 22:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll digress, "Scandinavian coldblood (trotter)" does mean a thing and here it is: "coldblood trotters with varying degrees of Swedish and Norwegian breeds in their pedigree". Practically mixed breed horses that are allowed to compete with the purebred ones. Which means there has to be some sort of breeding program including both breeds, which means they must have some sort of a shared trotter standard, which brings it close to being a legitimate horse breed, and worthy of a separate article especially if we look at something like
Georgian Grande Horse. This is most probably because the breeds are so closely related, and keeping them separate would be harmful for the race horse breeding as they are not large breeds at all. One of the source books I've used says, for instance, that Swedish trotters have certain faults in leg anatomy something like ten times more than Finnhorses. As for racing, I'm not sure if a Finnhorse mix would be ok, because I don't believe anyone's ever tried such a thing. Just don't ask me to find a source for this stuff. Except that I know you will, and I must understand and forgive you, because if good sources exist, they're in Swedish and Norwegian most probably, and I am the only one around who knows either any. Pitke (talk) 22:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply
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LOL! That Georgian Grande ref pretty much makes my point. (I tried and failed to keep Moyle horse out too, by the way) I find this world of coldblood trotter racing to be unique and very interesting; before your work on Finnhorse, I never even knew such a thing existed, I thought only Standardbreds and similar light trotting breeds were ever raced. So I guess where I'm coming from is that if we have obscure regional horse sports, say Ban'ei, then we maybe should kick around having something as funky, cool and regionally unique as coldblood racing, however that happens. Montanabw(talk) 05:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Come Play in the Nice Sandbox :o)

Heya, Montana thought you ought to come play in the nice sandbox and see if you can help out, come up with some seriously cool pics, and so on. It would be nice to see you over there :o) ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 05:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ping! Do you have any spare time to come play? I have found a few pics, but they aren't set in stone, and I'm sure you could find better ones. Ideally I'd like to have one pic for each four-to-five inches of screen-length, without making it too pic-heavy. And any input you feel happy to provide on the rest of it, of course, will be more than welcome. ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 10:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Whew!

You're back! We had some drive-by editor (a long time one, but not active on WPEQ) trying to change all the refs in Finnhorse to harvb format for some obscure reason, in doing so screwed up a bunch of stuff, which was reverted, then tried a less dramatic approach, but it still was weird, I reverted him and he got kind of upset at me. Anyway, Dana and I were trying to protect the article in your absence, but maybe this guy did have a legitimate issue, I don't know. So, go check out the talk page and if there are any legitimate suggestions, I told this editor that you ought to be the one who does the fixes, if any are necessary, so they don't get screwed up. I'd be glad to help, but only if I actually know what I'm doing. In the mean time, thanks for being you over at Gypsy Vanner! Montanabw(talk) 04:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm told that, for FA, Harvard-type references are 'preferred' - so might it be a good time to go change them all anyways? (At least once GA-wossname is over, possibly). I'd be happy to go do this if you guys would like it done. Pesky (talk) 08:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For now, my suggestion is that I'd rather not scratch it if it doesn't itch. But I think Pitke addressed some of this already. Montanabw(talk) 17:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Those amazing ref codes that make the refnote text highlight the source it's from? Yes please! Ö_Ö *slightly drooling* Pitke (talk) 19:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As long as it's not me who has to do it, I can barely navigate a citation template! Montanabw(talk) 20:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Harness racing in Finland

Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Schwede66 18:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply
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DYK for Harness racing in Finland