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re: Tugba Karademir

A reliable source that can be checked, but go ahead and re-add it if that was what NBC commentators said, since NBC is considered a reliable source. I've just heard too many blatant lies and misinformation coming from NBC commentators like Scott Hamilton and Sandra Bezic; I personally don't consider their comments to be reliable sources of information. They're not journalists and don't seem to be accountable for the accuracy of the things they say. Kolindigo (talk) 03:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for sourcing with a newspaper article. :) And as I type this, Scott Hamilton just lies about the history of triple axels in Olympic ladies competition. ;) Kolindigo (talk) 04:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

re: Clint Trickett

Thanks for updating the Trickett page...although I was hoping to get there first. :-) I hope you don't mind but I replaced the NFL.com reference you used with one from the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper since it was more comprehensive and gave more background from a home-town perspective. (Um...you're interested in cows? :-) ) Modern Ha Sofer (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Nura Woodson Ulreich

Hello Plandu,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Nura Woodson Ulreich for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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RE: Nura Woodson Ulrich

My apologies for misreading the edit log. Thank you for letting me know, I will be more careful with this.

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As one of the coordinators of

Wikiproject Schools, I try to add articles on schools listed at RPP to my watchlist. I went to the above article to do so and what do I find? A slick marketing brochure masquerading as an encyclopedia article. It's not uncommon for parochial and private school articles to be somewhat promotional, but I do not recall ever seeing a parochial school article this bad. I've stubbed it and will work on some independent sourcing tonight. Any assistance you may wish to add would be appreciated. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk
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Thanks for helping me on the Little Britches page Plandu! There is a lot to do on that page, and every bit helps. GreyPage (talk) 04:26, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Well Beyond Care

You requested a deletion of this Wiki post, but it is a significant company in the $125B private duty care industry as it is the only company in the US that teaches families and individuals how to find and manage affordable non-medical in-home care, while solving the chronic problems of caregiver truancy and turnover. Our platform combines the power of the internet with the personal touch of nurses to offer families a pathway to transitional care, allowing our elderly parents to safely age-in-place. This solution lowers stress in hiring a caregiver and saves families tens of thousands of dollars per year in care costs. I had not yet completed the Wiki page, but did not know how to put it in a "unpublished" mode. Yes, as the page stood, it was not completed, but there are some significant items that would be worthy of entry into Wikipedia. Jeteye (talk) 23:34, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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As far as I can recalled (looks like I made that map 12[!] years ago), it was a map of the states who had governors up for reelection in 2008. Once the election was over, someone replaced the map with one that showed the results. As such the map I so lovingly made does not appear to have a use any longer. I will bid it a fond farewell, knowing that it served its purpose and never complained. Plandu (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Edits of Golden Sheen Sapphire Page

Hi PLandu,

I am the original editor of the Golden Sheen Sapphire page. As you have noted, there have been many edits and undo edits to this page. I suspect a single individual is responsible using different IP address, and that they are making the changes with malicious intent. My original page contained basic facts I could find references for citing publications from reputable sources.

The changes the IP editor is making state that Gold Sheen Sapphire is the same as Star Sapphire - this is incorrect. They are two different types of sapphire. Gold Sheen Sapphire has been given its own designation as a type of corundum by independent gemological labs, which I have cited. Other information they change is the source mine and alternate names, and discovery date, however there are not cited sources to support this assertion. Gold Sheen Sapphire was unknown and unnamed until the GIA lab in Bangkok determined the material was different to other cabundrum varieties in 2013 - as cited in my original page.

The IP editor is causing damage to the reputation of Gold Sheen Sapphire, and material damage to those involved in the sapphire industry.

As per the Wikipedia policy, I have tried to contact the IP editor via their talk page to ask them to stop and discuss the issues. However, as they keep changing IP address, the contacts attempts remained unanswered.

Thank you for edit locking the page to verified logins only. I hope that this will allow sensible discussion and resolution.

Sjwaddington (talk) 07:05, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I'll be the first to admit I know nothing about gemmology. I was initially alerted to the page because of formatting errors, and saw that some of the disruptive editing and edit wars kept bringing them back. As long the edits don't run afoul of wikipedia guidelines and are well-sourced from notable sources, I'm fine with it. I see that you sell this stuff, which means that you know a thing or two about gemmology. I'll continue to follow the page and maybe learn a thing or two. Some mention should probably be made about the argument that it's similar to (but distinct from) previously discovered corundum. Plandu (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I have reverted the page to the basic information and I think fixed up some of the formatting errors. There are probably still some errors that I will be happy to fix if you let me know what they are. I am not sure how to deal with the assertions being made by the IP address only edits on the page. For example claiming Gold Sheen Sapphire is the same as Star Sapphire, or that Gold Sheen Sapphire was being mined on 1967. They supply references for these, but they just show that there is a type of sapphire called 'star sapphire' and that there were sapphire mines in Kenya (mining yellow sapphire) in 1967 - both of those things are true, but it is incorrect to claim that they are both Gold Sheen Sapphire. It is like claiming a whale is a fish and showing a reference that both things live in the sea.
Anyway, thank you for your advice and suggestion. I will put some thought into how to make the 'controversy' objective and avoid simply stating an opinion. Sjwaddington (talk) 09:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Looking for Advice

Hi Plandu,

I'm new to Wiki and am having trouble finding the links I need. I noticed you edited the page I recently created,

826 Boston, and was wondering how you found it. Is there a page indexed with newly created articles for review? Also, is it better to create "Draft:826 Boston" rather than create in the mainspace right away? Thanks! Rexlikescheese (talk
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Hey there. There is an indexed page with newly created articles. It's available at Special:NewPagesFeed. Or by topic at Wikipedia:New_articles_by_topic if the article falls within a topic. I actually ran across your article when perusing pages with thumbnail images in their infoboxes, which oftentimes leads to new articles by folks who are somewhat new to Wikipedia. I usually use Draft pages (or my personal sandbox) when I'm writing new pages, but there's nothing wrong with starting with a barebones article, as long as the article is well-cited and shows the notability of the subject (see Wikipedia:Notability for the notability guidelines). If you have any other questions, let me know! - Plandu (talk) 20:21, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! Rexlikescheese (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
No problem. Just a correction in what I said above: I found your article through User:AlexNewArtBot/LinguisticsSearchResult, not thumbnail infobox images. - Plandu (talk) 18:19, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

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I'm not sure why you would think the article you cite is scholarly. I am forced to assume that you are tongue in cheek. While this is mildly amusing. Your unconstructive editing is not. Thank you for your concern. - Plandu (talk) 23:49, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I cannot understand your edit. Rudolph Henzi is not a living person, and does not need to adhere to BLP. What was the motivation of your edit? --Saippuakauppias 08:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry. That was a complete and utter mistake on my part. My apologies. Plandu (talk) 08:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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Stuart W. Krasner

You put the resume tag on my bio of Mr. Krasner. I have looked for guidance on the links and they are completely unhelpful. Please suggest bios of scientists that are not resumes. Thanks.

Drinkingwaterdoc (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:20, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

It was mainly the extensive lists of projects, guest lectures, etc. that one doesn't usually see in such detail (every project someone has worked on, for instance) that prompted it. Looking at it again, I don't know if the Like resume template is the right one to use, so I'll remove it. Plandu (talk) 16:08, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

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reply to message to Ben79487

Dear Plandu:

Sorry if I didn't provide an adequate edit summary for my edit to The Icebound Land. Basically what I've been doing is that since most of the characters sections in the books are not very good and don't have much information, so I would like to only use the character summary in Ranger's Apprentice. Ben79487 (talk) 23:24, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, Ben79487. I hesitated before making that revert. It seems I should have looked a bit more closely at the circumstances. Thanks for your edits! Feel free to revert my revert right back. Plandu (talk) 23:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Block me i dare you

I will keep creating new accounts and destroing wikipedia Marvelssecretsource (talk) 22:01, 27 October 2018 (UTC)Marvelssecretsource

No you won't. Eventually you'll find better uses for your time. I think that time is fast approaching. Plandu (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


Carrefour

Free country! i should be allowed to edit careffour not get held back with ones like u!!! #Sub2TJY

You can edit Carrefour with accurate, verifiable information. Not with nonsense. Plandu (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

give me one reason why it is nonsence

It does not appear to be either accurate nor cited. Plandu (talk) 18:25, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Is Huggle working smoothly for you?

hundreds
18:37, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
For the most part, yes. It's a little hinky sometimes, but nothing terrible. Plandu (talk) 18:40, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
It's not working for me!
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You can get help on this link: Huggle IRC chat. There's some setup hoops to jump through. Unless you mean it was working and now isn't. In that case, I don't know what to tell you. Plandu (talk) 18:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
It seems to be working now (but slightly slower) after undoing
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Unitarian Universalism

Hi, the church cited is infact Unitarian Universalist, as seen here, https://www.uua.org/find/results?location=02493&location_radius=25&op=+Find+a+congregation+&form_id=uua_org_congregations_find_cong_front

best, Mhall18

They hide it well. Thanks for the clarification and your edits! Sorry for the revert. Plandu (talk) 00:48, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Just wanted to explain in regards to this edit you made. It's not that the source was "unverified", it's just that the IP editor was unhappy to see MSNBC beating Fox News, as you can see in this edit they made just a few days earlier. I hope that explains it :) (and thanks for finding an additional source!) – numbermaniac 01:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

BBC Television Programmes

Hello, i noticed you labelled my edits to the List of television programmes broadcast by the BBC as unconstructive and reverted them? I would like to ask as to why you did this as I am just removing shows that have already started airing from the upcoming programmes section and adding them onto the list of current programming, as well as removing programming that has aired from current programming and putting them into former programming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.74.247 (talk) 17:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

I apologize. I was probably confused by the lack of a comment explaining the reasoning. Looks like I made a mistake. Please disregard my revert (I see you've reverted it) and accept my apologies for incorrectly reverting your edits. Thank you for your edits and making Wikipedia a better place. Plandu (talk) 18:00, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

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Sam-Ang Sam

Hello, I have added content and references to the Sam-Ang Sam article, which you tagged as needing improvement. I am removing the tag, but letting you know, in case you disagree. Best, Jacqke (talk) 18:18, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

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Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury

The guy with the IP 46.117.220.102 that was doing the vandalism is just using a new account now as Yarin011 80.235.147.186 (talk) 00:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Now again as the same IP. 80.235.147.186 (talk) 07:00, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury fight card section

Feel free to answer the fight card question at Talk:Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury. Naue7 (talk) 00:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018 edit to Draft:Richard F. Chambers

Hi, @Plandu:. (Please forgive me if this isn't in the right section -- I'm still learning!) Thank you for the note on the article Draft:Richard F. Chambers. Would you be able to provide more insight into what specific statements or links are not in compliance with Wikipedia's acceptable use policy? Thank you!

KKacir (talk) 17:01, 6 December 2018 (UTC)KKacir

Hi there! There are a number of policies and guidelines that are relevant to this. If you've been paid for your contributions, the article is still publishable, but will need to follow the guidelines. The guidelines you'll want to familiarize yourself with are
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This is a prime candidate for a {{By whom}} template. The sentence should be in the active voice and list who considers it so.

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KKacir (talk) Hi, @Plandu:! This is very helpful. Working with my team to review and amend now. Thank you for your feedback. KKacir (talk) 21:58, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello Plandu, I removed it because I made a mistake, maybe you can help me. I'm trying to move something out of my sandbox onto that page but I can't figure out how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scaloggero24 (talkcontribs) 22:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Check out the help pages

look like you don'y know what article should look like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.100.131.115 (talk) 01:16, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

SAQI SAX

Hey i received a message from you, you want delete my wikipedia article.

I would like give you more informations if i can and will follow your advices best regard --CLAIREYUAN2010 (talk) 21:12, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Many of the citations are from the same source, and very few of the sources cited qualify as
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Can you kindly stop warning me for reverting vandalism? This page was undergoing a lot of vandalism that I was trying to revert. Please save your warning for people who are vandalizing pages, not for those who are reverting non-constructive edits themselves. Thanks. - Plandu (talk) 20:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

BIAS

Why is it that extremely biased and words only used to provoke certain emotions are okay for a man like Steve King, but if used on one of the many black congresspeople would be unacceptable. His comments can be discussed without calling him a white supremacist which he's denounced numerous times.Sir I ask you at least remove the demagoguic words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris98311 (talkcontribs) 18:24, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

The article mentions (and cites) ideas he has espoused that fall under white supremacy. The article also clearly mentions his disavowal of white supremacy following his comments puzzling over why the term "white supremacist" was offensive. If there are
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I readded longstanding text removed by two editwarring editors. There was consensus to include it months ago from many editors and now two come around and just say no, without any discussion, and that's that? 51.75.75.162 (talk) 20:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

The change deleted lots of carriage returns, which messed up the formatting of the article. Paragraph breaks were gone and section headings were broken. I couldn't even see what was changed content-wise because the formatting was so changed. Feel free to add back any relevant content (preferably by reverting to an earlier published copy), but make sure it doesn't mess up the formatting. - Plandu (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Huh you're right, how did I miss that. I tried again and something's going wrong. I tried disabling extensions in my browser but it didn't help. This is the edit I wanted undo
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tucker_Carlson&action=edit&undoafter=887832034&undo=888304815
Can you help? 51.75.75.162 (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi!

I just wanted to apologize on Behalf of my younger brother. I noticed that there were a few warnings regarding vandalism and other misuses of wikipedia, and found out that he was culpable. I noticed you were the one having to put up with this, and just wished to apologize on his behalf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.180.116.2 (talk) 14:25, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you plandu

Boi thank you plandu Adam rajsha (talk) 01:54, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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Cottage Cheese

Hi Plandu, Disappointed you should say that. I am wanting to rewrite the cottage cheese article so that was the first of many edits! I removed the two sentences from the lede as I explained in the comments, but let me reiterate:

1. "Cottage cheese dates back to the ancient Mesopotamia 3100–510 BC, where it was first found accidentally made in a sheep's stomach bag." The references used in the article do not corroborate this. The gourmet cheese website merely states this method as a possible discovery route, and the National Historic Cheesemaking Center only mentions this is a possible legend. The specific dates mentioned are not found in either source. Either way, it seems impossible to prove, and simply wrong, as evidence for cheese making precedes this date by thousands of years.

2. The stuff about WW1 is sourced in the article to something in the USA National Archives, but this document does not mention cheese at all, let alone cottage cheese.

I also left a note about my actions on the talk page of the article. Please be more careful or explain yourself!

Cheers, Leo 86.83.56.115 (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Donald Sterling

Donald Sterling is a jew. What part of that did you find offensive? You are an anit-semite

I found the lack of relevance, lack of capitalization, and the odd use of "being" all to be quite offensive to good article creation. How this makes me antisemitic is beyond me. Plandu (talk) 16:23, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

All this is a point of pride for Jews. It takes a fraudulent racist, anti-semite like yourself to go in there and delete legitimate editing. shand shand shand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.212.148.254 (talk) 18:54, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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Look again. I removed vandalism from your page. Now kindly remove your warning from mine. 2601:647:4901:8CE8:AD33:52B4:FC55:E9D0 (talk) 03:54, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

My mistake and sincerest apologies. Plandu (talk) 03:57, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Accepted. 2601:647:4901:8CE8:AD33:52B4:FC55:E9D0 (talk) 04:09, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks. I accidentally pasted an extra line in at the start of the article. Fixed and resubmitted my other changes. -- 109.79.176.69 (talk) 04:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Undo Mamamoo page

Hey, I just want to ask why did you undo my edit on Mamamoo page? Nayralpz (talk) 22:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

A better reason than "mistakes are not on other K-pop groups' pages" is required to remove sourced content. Plandu (talk) 22:08, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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Adam

"a citation-based synopsis is necessary". according to

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My concern is this particular section of
WP:FILMPLOT
: "... a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is verifiable by a reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge ... Do not make analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about information found in a primary source."
There has been a lot of edit warring over the synopsis and everything else on the page, and I'm just (perhaps unjustifiably) worried that it's all going to start anew with an analytic, synthetic, interpretive synopsis. I think the gist of what's written synopsis should be covered and covered thoroughly and at length in the reception and criticism sections. I don't know how to get the synopsis to place where it doesn't fail NPOV in one way or the other. I guess you could revert back to what you've got and see what shakes out. Maybe we put it back while some sort of consensus discussion takes place on the talk page. Plandu (talk) 22:18, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
So the best solution is to leave an article about a film with no plot section, but which includes a controversy section discussing the plot without talking about the plot? If you, or others, have a problem with (I cite) "this particular section of ). 22:23, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I think you’ve misunderstood me. As I said, the best solution is to have a synopsis. That’s why I said that on second thought we should leave it while discussing on the talk page. You’ve also misunderstood what I said about the MoS. I was quoting the part of the MoS that the synopsis as written doesn’t conform to. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear. I am well aware that Wikipedia is not censored, but it also must be NPOV and adhere to the MoS. I will continue to try to operate in good faith and without anger or undue sarcasm. I look forward to continuing to improve this page and others alongside you. I hope you have restored your last version of the synopsis so we can work from that. Plandu (talk) 23:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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