User talk:Tamanoeconomico

Thanks for creating Franklin School (Boise, Idaho).

Nice work!

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Hughesdarren (talk) 01:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating Aiken's Hotel.

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Hughesdarren (talk) 02:06, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, I am glad to keep seeing your new contributions on NRHPs in Idaho! Including your great contributions of copyright acceptable photos for destroyed places, those are really helpful! And your articles are routinely much better developed than my own new ones. You are really doing great!

Hey in this edit I inserted a "__NOTOC__" into Mountain States Telephone and Telegraph Company Building (Meridian, Idaho) to suppress unhelpful-in-my-view default display of table of contents when there are four(?) or more headings in an article. You happen to use headings more than I do, which is probably good, but which kicks your articles into default TOC display territory.--Doncram (talk) 00:59, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: Thank you for generous comments and helpful suggestions, Doncram. Since my first edits, you always have been the person who knows the answer before I know the question, NOTOC case in point. It will be at the top of my shorter pages from now on. Thanks again for helping to make life in the trenches good.Tamanoeconomico (talk) 03:07, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tamanoeconomico, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on

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Beeblebrox: Thanks for the autopatrolled permission, Beeblebrox, and I hope that my edits in some small way are helpful. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 23:59, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply

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Thank you for contributing, in 2018, a photo of the original

I wonder now, though, do you have any more pics of it? The one you took might be its main fronting onto Gratz Park, I wonder, but it seems like the back side relative to its grander presentation in a different direction covered by this National Park Service page with photo. The grander front has a two-story

Any which way, thanks for contributing that! --Doncram (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: Hi Doncram, it's good to know that a picture I took is useful, and I wish I had more to offer. That whole collection of photos disappeared right after I took them, and the Carnegie library was one of only a few that survived. Will look forward to reading your article, Carnegie Center for Literacy and Learning. And thanks for starting Herman L. Rowe. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 00:25, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rats about losing pics, which has happened for me too. Glad you got and uploaded the one. --Doncram (talk) 05:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for finding a pic later, after all! --Doncram (talk) 22:13, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

names and notes

On a different topic, the NRHP listing for

Monsieur Giron's Confectionary used the 'ary' ending in its title, but Monsieur Giron seems to have spelled confectionery with the 'ery' ending (Oxford includes both spellings). Is there a guideline that addresses this sort of difference? Both spellings found their way into my brief article. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 04:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply

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There are lots of errors in the

wp:NRIS info issues ID

or for whichever state.

Also we routinely "fixed" convoluted NRIS listings such as "Smith, William, House" to appear in Wikipedia instead as "William Smith House", without noting in the wp:NRIS info issues system. And we fix inaccurate coordinates all the time. We are not stuck forever repeating awkwardness stemming from an old computer database not being able to sort properly, or from other effective failings. However we still need to be, well, encyclopedic and trustworthy about these things, hence the wp:NRIS info issues system. This has worked out well enough, addressing frustration, anger and other emotions from many editors encountering inaccurate info and not knowing how to handle it. That's a quick version, okay perhaps? --Doncram (talk) 05:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, sometimes it can be appropriate to add an informational "note" as opposed to a reference "footnote", to explain about discrepancies in sources that you observe, in the article itself. At your judgment of when helpful for reader. You could see how i create a note technically in this media-wiki(?) language in the McCornick Building article from just now, involving a reference (which can be a named reference) constructed like "<ref name=whatever group=note>" and a "Notes" section that displays all such notes from the article, numbered, using "{{reflist|group=note}}". --Doncram (talk) 22:13, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram:Nicely done, and thanks for the suggestion. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 00:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I have admired your finding and uploading pics of some destroyed NRHP places, such as you did for Marion Allsup House where the NRHP-listed house is long gone. With your appropriate defense of copyright exemption usage, with the difficulty/impossibility of creating or finding another photo being one part of the argument. And I know that lower quality images are more acceptable for exemptions.

In your contributions I happen to notice This is an apparently disputed uploading. For buildings that continue to exist, we generally should be able to get a new photo contributed eventually. I am not an expert, but that undermines one type of claim for copyright exemption. You wouldn't start automatically uploading NRHP doc photos for places you can't visit, would you? Not sure if you might think that is okay or not.

In general the texts of NRHP documents are not public domain, as very few of them are works by Federal officials, they are mostly by private persons and state officials who technically hold copyright over texts. Fairly long quotes are acceptable though, IMHO, with proper attribution, based on copyright law and precedents (including that the texts are not commercially valuable and that many authors and state officials believe they have put them into the public domain already, and that even long quotes can be a very small percentage of a given NRHP document). Covered some at

@Doncram: Thanks for the heads up about the McAdams & Morford Building image and its possible deletion for violation of fair/free use policy. I added a template to the file explaining my reasoning for using the image, but if it is deleted no big deal. My thinking has been that a low resolution image of a historic photograph of a site is fair use in the context of an infobox about the site. In the case of the McAdams & Morford Building, the image I made of the NRHP photograph shows the building with its longstanding signage, "McAdams & Morford," and it also shows the McAdams & Morford storefront, so I thought it would be fair use of copyrighted media. But of course others may disagree, and if so no big deal. Others of the images I added to infoboxes recently may be on even shakier ground, however. The image I made of the NRHP photograph of Monsieur Giron's Confectionery, Monsieur Giron's Confectionary (NRHP).jpg, comes to mind. That building was named for its first occupant, not the Postal Finance Company as shown in the photograph. But once again, if in doubt throw it out. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 06:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tamanoeconomico. It has been over six months since you last edited the

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (📧) 12:34, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've been creating some articles about NRHP listings in Idaho, sort of trying to push the last counties over the 30% threshold in

Been making some progress, including starting

wp:NRHPPROGRESS should soon show all Idaho counties over 30% in terms of having articles. Now hope to push all Idaho counties over 40% threshold for that, and over 30% threshold in "quality" combo measure, in coming weeks or month or two. cheers, --Doncram (talk) 23:12, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks for uploading File:Opera House and Yates Bookshop Building (NRHP).jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of fair use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:

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A file that you uploaded or altered, File:H.K. Fritchman House (NRHP).jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You did such nice work, in both your writing and photographs, about National Register-listed places in Idaho and Kentucky, but kerpow!, it seems like u last edited in 2019, oh no! I happen to be working on some Kentucky articles, including using new photos I took. Wish you were here! --Doncram (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]