User talk:Wugapodes/Archive 17

15:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Just curious if you've ready with that part of the logistics of doing this. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: Nope, you want to do it? The bigger problem is figuring out who can actually make the change. If we go the CSS route, we'd just need an intadmin. Changing the config might be better, but I'm not sure who to get in touch with about that or what the turnaround time would be (if you're a talk page watcher who knows the answer now's the time to pounce). — Wug·a·po·des​ 03:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I had opinions so I wasn't going to make a good closer. I put the bat signal out for an INTADMIN on Discord so hopefully one of them steps up. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Izno said they might be able to be your intadmin but suggested that Xaosflux would be a better choice if they're willing. Actually implementing this is well above my current knowledge and so I live it to people with actual proficiency to take it from here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:46, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Xaosflux was my first thought too, though they also have an opinion. Unless it's a clear cut result, Izno, you may well get to do the honors. I don't know anything about the CSS/config tradeoffs, but presumably both are workable for a non-permanent change. In the mean time, I've got to prep for a committee meeting tomorrow so probably won't be too active until ~20:00 UTC. — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:09, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

You should probably go via the config. The patch usually has to be part of one of the deployment windows (see wikitech:Deployments for schedule - at least one daily except weekends), but sysadmins @ #wikimedia-operations are friendly and can advise (pinging in Martin Urbanec). You may need multiple versions of the logo for sizing, btw, as in 1x, 1.5x, 2x - I'm not sure on the details for that. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

All the logos are vector graphics so rescaling will be trivial. As for deployment, it looks like there's backport windows scheduled for 19:00 today and 00:01 tomorrow (both UTC). Those look like our chances to get the patch in. I'll come back around 18:00 to tie up loose ends at the RfC, finalize the file, and get a patch ready. There's no scheduled deployments after 01:00 tomorrow, so let's shoot for 19:00 so we still have a fallback option in case something goes wrong. — Wug·a·po·des​ 06:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks great Wug! Thanks for your work on this! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 08:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

If devs can do it, it is much preferred to do it via config - especially if the duration of the change will be more than a day or two - last time we did this it was for a very short time and we couldn't wait for devs to get around to it. I don't think any of our intadmins would have a problem implementing the consensus (inc me) even if we !voted in the RfC (we're not the ones actually closing the RfC). Ping me over at

WP:IANB if you need me. — xaosflux ^Talk

12:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds I noticed the ping too late, as the logo is now live :). Yeah, generally, Monday to Thursday is best to get such change done (just create a task at Phab in those cases). If you need it ASAP, you can usually get help in #wikimedia-operations. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

 Second opinion requested at this BLP/N section. We need someone more experienced to weigh into this discussion. Thank you very much if you can assist. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 08:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

16:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

...of this? A request has been made to revoke SashiRoll's TPA. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I wasn't, thanks for letting me know. I restored the previous block settings since the appeal was unsuccessful. — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks for your graphic design and general excellence with the WP20 logo! Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 02:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• I've been meaning to thank Wugapodes for a week. I saw the discussion about needing a new logo, and I saw the whining about how unusual the new logo was (omg it looks different!), but that logo was actually sensational and just right for its purpose—thanks! I also endorse the views from Wugapodes here. We should not be surprised that the WMF fails to provide proper support for important community initiatives but it is irritating. Johnuniq (talk) 04:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm rather busy tonight, but I hope to thank you both properly soon--as I said, barnstars are coming. In the mean time, the person to thank is Amory for doing what they could to implement community consensus and Legoktm for deploying the server configuration. — Wug·a·po·des​ 04:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Do you still have access to this site? If so, would you be able to share the full text of this article to help with Elifuraha Marealle? Cheers, Number 57 22:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Number 57: Yeah, it says that it's a reprint of a Daily News article which is no longer online but was archived by Internet Archive. I checked and it looks to be the same content, so you should probably cite the original (especially since the original content is available in full) rather than AllAfrica. You can find the archived content here. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks! Number 57 23:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

18:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

There are a few verified references in this article, to the topic from which I'm banned from editing. I wanted to add "

Along with the Village Voice source in that recent edit, this Billboard source also supports "progressive soul" for D'Angelo's infobox.

@Isento: sorry I missed this, I thought I had replied but I guess I accidentally closed the tab before publishing. Looking at the article, I don't see a connection between the genre and Beyonce so you should be fine unless I'm missing something (which I might be, I can't seem to open the billboard link). In general, if the edit is about D'Angelo's work indpendent of Beyonce, you're fine. What you're banned from are only the parts of that article which relate directly to Beyonce. On the off chance my delay caused you to accidentally violate your ban, you should be fine since it's my fault for being so slow, sorry. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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In case it slipped your mind.... For the categorization issue which I brought up in August, and the bot request was approved in October, it appears that the bot hasn't yet been deployed for this task.

Also, you proposed some changes in May, and confirmed in October that you intend to proceed.

No hurry on anything (especially the template changes, since everything already works as is). Just some reminders in case you forgot. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

One more thing: please note for User:Wugapodes/DYK promoter.js that there are currently seven Prep areas. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mandarax: Thanks for the reminders, and sorry about the delays. My meatspace work these last few months has taken up a lot of my time, so I probably won't get around to this for at least another month. If you're interested in working on any of this let me know and I'd be happy to give you whatever tools you'd need. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem. Take all the time you need. And about the DYK promoter script, I assumed that you had just written it in response to the current WT:DYK discussion, and that you forgot that there are seven Preps. It wasn't until now that I checked the history, and saw that you started it back when there still only six. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I thought your question was pretty interesting.

I really just wanted to see how the candidate thought about the problem; I don't think there's a right answer. It's a complex situation at the intersection of time pressure, harm reduction, and community consensus. My concerns after reading the answers and neutrals was how the candidate would wield IAR, so I wanted to give a situation where simply citing PREEMPTIVE wouldn't adequately resolve the situation. It's based on a situation I face at RFPP. For my part I went against PREEMPTIVE to try and

a deadline pressuring them to do something, so it was nice to see more than a textbook decline-and-move-on but an actual plan for how to prevent the likely harm while still respecting our community policies. — Wug·a·po·des

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00:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

In your statement are you saying you agree with Johnuniq's assessment about my TfD, or you agree with the general idea that concerns of retaliation (when the filer might've also made a mistake) scares people away from reporting issues? I'd personally dispute Johnuniq's statement, the simplest example being I found it very hard to get PR to say what the dispute was about; in my very first reply to him I succinctly said that I agreed with the understanding of the dispute he outlined in his own words.[32]: Johnuniq, that is pretty much an accurate description, I think. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@ProcrastinatingReader: Let me ramble for a moment, though if you're short on time the last sentence is a direct answer to your question so feel free to skip my musings. Have you ever listened to the band Nana Grizol? I quite like them. They're a folk band from Georgia and I'm particularly drawn to their lyricism; reminds me a lot of The Tallest Man on Earth, but with less bluegrass influence. Personally, I like their album Ursa Minor most, but at the moment I'm thinking of a song from Love It Love It which don't get me wrong is quite good, but it was their first album so they were still trying to find themselves I think. Anyway, my favorite song from is "Motion in the Ocean" which I think shows the group's unique mastery of meter along with their beautiful lyrical imagery reminiscent of Jeff Mangum. One line I find myself returning to in that song is Life's not made up of things that must be lost or won/But you can live that way if that's what you call fun. In terms of composition I'm not sure if it's the strongest part of the song but I like the turn of phrase even if it's not flawless. I enjoy meditating on it every so often. Check it out if you get the chance! Anyway, I haven't looked into the merits of this dispute extensively, and quite honestly I don't really care about this particular spat. To directly answer your question, I "agree with the general idea that concerns of retaliation (when the filer might've also made a mistake) scares people away from reporting issues". — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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Today, we have a DYK about Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Thank you for your position in the arb case request, - I feel I have to stay away, but there are conversations further down on the page, in case of interest, - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for the note, and especially for your tireless contributions! I'm always inspired by the efforts of Greens, they remind me of the American abolition movement's philosophy as summarized by Elizabeth Cady Stanton: "I never forget that we are sowing winter wheat which the coming spring will see sprout and other hands than ours will reap and enjoy". I'm glad the flowers are still blooming! To keep up my recent trend of music recommendations, have you ever listened to The Decemberists? You reminded me of one of my favorite songs of theirs, "June Hymn". The imagery never fails to get me into a spring mindset. I like to think of it as part of a three song cycle starting with with "January Hymn" from the same album and ending with "July!, July!" from their first album. Personally, I'm looking forward to the summer, largely because I hope the pandemic will be mostly behind us. I've gone stir crazy, and though work is largely to blame for my recent absence, a not-insignificant factor is that I'm simply too grumpy most days to keep my cool. Things are tense in the real world, so things are tense on Wikipedia because Wikipedia is in the real world. Sarah and I think a few others made a similar point in the RfArb, and I think we'd do well as a community to keep that in mind; a lot of us are worn out. We shouldn't ignore the problems incivility causes for the community, but we also shouldn't make situations worse by throwing sanctions around as if all our home lives haven't been severely disrupted. Hopefully ArbCom is able to handle that nuance. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, and I'll check out the music! We had one arb case where the accused said nothing. I'm in the process of nominating a garden architect for DYK, more later perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy to tell you that this article passed GA without any complications 😊

That's great to hear! Thanks for your contributions (and the tea)! — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)