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The problem this time is that article talk pages are erroneously added to the Passed or Failed DYK nominations categories. For example, see Category:Passed DYK nominations from May 2020 or Category:Failed DYK nominations from May 2020, which should only contain nom templates. The relevant page is {{DYK top}}. No rush. And if digging through all of those noincludes and includeonlys gives you a headache, I could ask someone else to look at it.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I can. A heatwave and power shortage have been causing internet problems for the last few days, so not sure when I'll be able to get around to it. — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Just preventing the bot from archiving. (And if you prefer that I ask someone else, just lemme know.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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WP:AWBREQ to get sorted out. In the meantime, do you happen to know when this problem would have started? My guess is when WugBot started transcluding noms to talk pages in June 2019, but you might have a better sense of the scope. Lastly, sorry about the delay, it's been a hectic few weeks in meat space between the heatwave, moving, and the semester starting so this completely slipped my mind. But never feel bad about poking me; I know I can be forgetful and appreciate the reminders. — Wug·a·po·des

​ 20:20, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

I lied, it was easier to write a bot script. See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/WugBot 5. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:04, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to you and SD0001. As for when it started.... Before the bot began transcluding, a very small number of people manually added them, so it would be any that closed after this June 2019 edit. The earliest I found, after a cursory investigation, were in February 2019. I had planned on AWB-ing the relevant pages when this was taken care of, but I guess you've saved me from having to do that. No problem about the delay. It's certainly not an urgent matter, and I didn't want to nag you, but I saw it was about time for the thread to get archived. Thanks again, MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

I took a look at the BRFA. Your plan to avoid "collisions" doesn't account for the fact that the category dates are based on the date of nomination, whereas the issue arises when a nom is promoted or rejected. The earliest active noms are currently from July, so collisions could occur for July and August as well as September. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I used AWB to take care of everything from July and August (and there was nothing from September to fix). If you'd like, I could do the rest, too. It may be faster than waiting for bot approval. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:58, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I know next to nothing about the syntax issue here, but this bug came to my attention because you, Mandarax, popped up in multiple places on my watchlist; and while you have my thanks for fixing this, I wonder if it would be better to wait for bot approval just so you're not flooding the watchlist of anyone who would make a stink about it. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:13, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I didn't think it would be much of an issue, since each of those closed nom templates is likely to have just one or two watchers at most. I just processed those two months to avoid difficulties for the bot, and I'm fine waiting for the bot to complete the task. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Still no hurry.... Just wondering if you've put the bot task on hold.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:20, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Gah, not on hold, I'm just forgetful. The test is running now. Feel free to look over Special:Contributions/WugBot to make sure it hasn't messed anything up. — Wug·a·po·des​ 01:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I checked a few random ones, and they seemed fine. A reminder for the full run: as I noted above, I took care of the most recent ones, so the bot can skip July 2020 and later. (If the code listed on the bot request page is current, it just skips September and later.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. The linked code is pretty accurate, but I added a check to make sure the bot didn't apply the fix to pages that already were fixed so even if it runs on July and August, nothing should break. — Wug·a·po·des​ 02:21, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

21:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

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16:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey, I'm a little new to wiki and still not sure how to use this site, but I use it to try learn new things and help add reliable information, in the case where I see something which doesn't need to be there,

@

carry a fishing net

.

• if I report someone for sock puppeting and I'm wrong, will I get into any trouble Probably not. If you keep doing it and keep being wrong, someone will probably ask you to stop. As long as you're making
  good-faith
  reports with evidence, you shouldn't have any problems.
• if I report someone for abuse editing and I'm wrong, will I get into any trouble? Probably not, though this one is trickier. We have
  WP:BOOMERANG
  which says that we review the whole situation, not just the reported editor, and while it seems scary at first it's actually to protect people. Looking at all sides incentivizes not escalating, since everyone will want to be seen as the side not doing bad stuff. If you show that you've been trying to deescalate and improve, people will usually cut you some slack. Everyone has off days, so as long as it looks like you're trying to solve the problem rather than continuing the drama,
• Is there somewhere I can ask to see if I'm doing the right thing? The
  Teahouse
  has a lot of knowledgeable people and they all watch that page because they like helping new editors. Administrative pages like SPI and AN also have talk pages, and just like articles you can have meta-discussions there. Asking on user talk pages is also a good strategy, though some people are faster at replying than others. We're all volunteers, so questions don't always get the fastest responses.

Hopefully that helps, but let me know if you have other questions. — Wug·a·po·des​ 02:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding, I was pretty scared when I saw the warning but than you removed it, thank you for understanding me, also I'll try

stick up for myself a little more and I'll avoid going anywhere near Wikipedia's software, but I'm now unsure about what to do next, I think I'll try to discuss things with Vamlos a little more and than report him for sock puppetting, next I wanna clean up the mess in the interracial marriage wiki page, should I just simply remove the information and see if anyone stops me than discuss it with them on the talk? Or should I make a post about it somewhere? Or should I wait for the admins to do something? Should I make another post on the Teahouse? Also if go back and change what I edited will I still get into trouble if I than report someone for abuse reporting? I'm still kinda confused -- Toby Mitches (talk

) 04:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

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checkuser with the evidence/request and ask that they handle it for you. — Wug·a·po·des

​ 05:14, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Yea, think I'll take a break off wiki for a good couple weeks and see what happens, good luck to all of you guys -- Toby Mitches (talk) 05:20, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Just a note, Wug·, but this article has been the site of a lot of conflict over the past couple of weeks. This is not just a newbie editor running into a unintentional conflict with a random editor. I'm not saying that Toby is responsible for the article talk page disruption that has moved on to noticeboards (as it predates his participation on the article) but just a head's up, this editor chose to dive into a dispute. I've already advised one of the participants to move on to edit other articles but it didn't seem to have much of an impact. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I've already advised one of the participants to move on to edit other articles Yes, this is perhaps the best advice for the given dispute. I got caught up on the specific questions. American politics and race are two very...heated...topics, and you will probably have more fun if you get started on a page with less conflict. — Wug·a·po·des​ 03:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Originally I didn't want to be apart of this debate, I just saw something wrong with the interracial marriage wiki and thought it was best to do something, I was even going to plan to get an admin to do my work for me, but no one replied to my statement on the teahouse, also it is true, I'm not a newbie editor, I actually have some skill when it comes to editing, but outside from that, I'm pretty lose, like, I started the Eritrean Australians wiki page, probably my proudest accomplishment, but when it comes to sock puppetting, abuse reporting, vandalism and others, I would often try to avoid these subjects as I'm new to these topics and don't really know how to act or what to say as I'm uneducated on these matters, however, I've done enough damage, sorry for the mess I've made, and good luck to all that have to review the case, again I'm sorry -- Toby Mitches (talk) 04:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I feel I am being mobbed. I was upset because I felt I was wrongly accused of soapboxing and spamming. I also felt that words were poorly used against me. I filed a complaint with an administrator already. Regardless, an administrator who is not part of my communications is already passing judgement against me and even telling me that I may not be able to use wikipedia again because they feel I am being too sensitive. I just wish that Drmies, would stay away from contacting me. I recognize that I may not win in any complaints I have posted. However the root of my complaint was a lack of civility and my deep fear of mobbing. The fact that Drmies simply messaged me telling me that I am wrong, even though I never made any contact with them, is unjust. Whatever judgement being passed upon me from the administration I complained to would be accepted. However, I feel that total strangers who are not part of my complaint such as Drmies, should not contact me especially when they make little effort to understand my perspective. Waferpedia (talk) 01:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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learn strategies to handle stressful on-wiki situations so that you can continue to contribute even when you run into people you don't like. — Wug·a·po·des

​ 01:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Using words like spammer and soapboxing are just as hurtful as any profanity. The offline world is suffering from over policing and police brutality. Whatever mistakes I have made did not warrant me getting threatened or being invalidated. The online world also needs to examine how mistakes are handled. Getting accused of being a spammer or soapboxing are severe statements which could lead to me facing punishment. I was threatened by Drmies regarding a situation which he was not part of. MASEM was able to explain things in a civil way. Drmies used a veiled threat towards me by telling me my "tenure could be cut short." De-escalation tactics could have been used by Drmies, and all the others who had contacted me. The people who had found fault with my mistaken links derived pleasure from humiliating me because they found an easy target and an excuse to torment me because they thought I was a spammer. This is the same type of situation people fear from law enforcement in the offline world. Many people in the offline world get humiliated by law enforcement over petty offenses. Whatever petty offenses I mistakenly did were not deserving of a group of people invalidating me with weaponized language. Waferpedia (talk) 04:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk

) 10:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

WP:BOOMERANG troll. He already stalked me once and you. At first I didn't recognize your username and I was worried to look up whether there was any chance that you weren't experienced enough to know that you were being victimized by projection, and whether you know that you don't have to respond to attacks and trolling. A newer user wouldn't know that and would have gotten blasted. This person has professed a 100% fanatically antiencyclopedic and anti-collegiate stance, having stomped onto a privately owned website and railroaded over all the published policies and personal guidance, and unilaterally dictated to all of us and to Wikipedia itself what Wikipedia is and is not according to personal feelings. The end. Please file it if you would be so kind. — Smuckola(talk)

18:36, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk

) 21:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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wikihounding. Being naive, confused, or sensitive is not the same as being a "troll" and the assumption of bad faith is astonishing. Go do something else. — Wug·a·po·des

​ 21:50, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk

) 22:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@

the same advice I gave Wafer and disengage. — Wug·a·po·des

​ 22:35, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Your input would likely be useful here. Thanks.

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 Done thanks for the heads up! — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the protection on my talk page. The stuff from the germaine vandal is getting old. Best regards, - - Bédévore ^{[knock knock]} 21:39, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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15:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Can user:165.139.234.2 please be blocked ASAP for at least 4 years due to their block history. CLCStudent (talk) 00:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done @CLCStudent: I went with 3 years instead of 4 since I'm not sure continuing to escalate the length will be effective. If you think 3 years isn't long enough I'd prefer to indef instead and force an unblock request since this IP seems highly stable. — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:10, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Can user:108.168.28.195 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 00:51, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:53, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help on this! Based on this articles' history, we will likely have to seek an "IP Block" for the article G. Capo (talk) 20:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

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semi-protection which prevents edits from IP editors and registered editors with fewer than 10 edits and 4 days tenure. That will last until the 23rd, and hopefully it resolves the problem. If not let me or another administrator know and we can make the protection last longer. — Wug·a·po·des

​ 22:39, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Wugapodes...unfortunately the old problem (above) concerning this topic has reemerged. Another editor thankfully reverted the edits. Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated. G. Capo (talk) 22:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@G. Capo: I protected the page for a month. Thanks for bringing this up. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Much appreciated.G. Capo (talk) 21:28, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi. Before you protected this page you should have reversed the disorganized and unsourced edit that was made. That section of the article is looking like a mess at the moment. Also can you please protect Anka's page permanently? Edit warring about his ancestry has taken place for a long time now and it has been discussed extensively in his talk page as you can see but still disruptive users choose not to go to the talk page to discuss and choose to edit warChris O' Hare (talk) 14:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@Chris O' Hare: Thanks for bringing this up. I looked again and I think I misinterpreted the timeline, so I've modified the protection. I think you're right that it's a longer-term issue, so I'll modify it to 3 months of semi-protection. The disruption is not enough to protect permanently, but if problems persist after a few months let me or another sysop know know and I'll protect it again. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:33, 15 October 2020 (UT

Thanks for your collaboration. I reverted the disruptive edit but it seems like my reversal took away the protection you added. Im not sure why this happened. Can you please add the protection again? Sorry for the inconvenience.Chris O' Hare (talk) 21:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok another administrator just added back. But I noticed the protection is until October 18th, meaning 3 days not 3 months as you mentioned you intended the protection to be.Chris O' Hare (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@Chris O' Hare: Ugh, I need more coffee. Sorry for messing this up so many times. Everything should be correct now. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Since you've been active regarding to issues with IPs on AN, I'm looking for your help in this issue I recently brought up

Hello Wugapodes. Thank you for volunteering to be an election commissioner for the 2020 Arbitration Committee Election. Following the community RfC, you have been selected as a reserve election commissioner! In the event of a vacancy, you will be automatically promoted to the election commission. Your continued assistance with the election is still welcome, and you may volunteer as a community coordinator if you would like. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know (and thanks to everyone who participated in the RfC)! Hopefully things go smoothly and I won't be needed. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

16:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm surprised not to have found this in your talk archives, but how do you pronounce your username? I've been reading it in my head as (approximately) /ˌwʌɡ.ɑˈpəʊdz/ but then I thought that actually you might use a pronunciation more like /ˌwʌɡ.ɑ.pəʊˈdiːz/? Thryduulf (talk) 01:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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subvocalize it as /wəˈɡæpədiːz/, following the maximally pedantic pronunciation of octopodes. Nardog (talk

) 01:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I can't read these pronunciation languages but isn't it WUG-a-podes, like it's spelled? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Am I the only one who always assumed it was pronounced /ˈvʊɡəpʌdɛʃ/? ;-) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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juncture loss). — Wug·a·po·des

​ 19:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thryduulf, pot/kettle? Threedoolf? (I can't get my head round those funny IPA squiggles I'm afraid...) GirthSummit _(blether) 19:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@Wugapodes: thank you, and yes the variety even on just this thread is interesting :)

@

wine-whine merger. Think of it as the word "three" with a d on the end followed by "wolf" with the "w" optional, the stress is on the first syllable. Thryduulf (talk

) 20:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thryduulf, thank you for explaining how little I understand about pronunciation! And for the explanation - I'll try to get the little voice in my head to remember that for next time I come across your username. :) GirthSummit _(blether) 21:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

What the heck have I stumbled into now? —valereee (talk) 23:14, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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October harvest

October

Today's DYK is a song, Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied (Kempf), a call to see and praise wonders daily and let nobody deny that, written in World War II, - a good recipe for peace, it seems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Wug

Sorry this is dragging out. I've got some personal matters that are taking a lot of my time. I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this so please bear with me. EEng 16:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

@EEng: Absolutely no rush! It's a hard time for everyone, so I understand that you need to take care of yourself first. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:50, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

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Joseph Safra and his father and brothers

Hi. Can you please protect Joseph Safra's, his father's Jacob Safra and his brothers' Edmond Safra and Moise Safra pages permanently like you did with Paul Anka's on October 15th? IP users and newly registered users created accounts continue to change to their nationality from Lebanese to Syrian or to Syrian Lebanese even after primary sources have been provided both on his page and his talk page that clearly state he is Lebanese by nationality just like his father not Syrian nor both. His father was born in Aleppo but his documentation proves he had Lebanese nationality not Syrian.

Because only someone whose father is Lebanese can obtain nationality, Joseph Safra's grandfather had to be Lebanese as well as per the Lebanese law so the Syrian ancestry of the Safra family has not really been proven by official documentation and there are reliable sources that say the family is originally a sephardic family from Northern Lebanon, not Syria. All of that is explained in the Talk Page. A note was added a while ago on the respective part of his wikibio about not changing his ancestry and pointing to Talk Page for evidence/sources/discussion but the note is being constantly disregarded. Chris O' Hare (talk) 15:12, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2020 November newsletter

The 2020 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round going down to the wire. Our new Champion is Lee Vilenski (submissions), the runner-up last year, who was closely followed by Gog the Mild (submissions). In the final round, Lee achieved 4 FAs and 30 GAs, mostly on cue sport topics, while Gog achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on important battles and wars, which earned him a high number of bonus points. The Rambling Man (submissions) was in third place with 4 FAs and 8 GAs on football topics, with Epicgenius (submissions) close behind with 19 GAs and 16 DYK's, his interest being the buildings of New York.

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• MPJ-DK (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 33 articles in good topics in round 2.
• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize, for 100 good article reviews in round 2.
• Epicgenius (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 22 Did you know articles in round 4 and 94 overall.
• Bloom6132 (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 63 In the news articles in round 4 and 136 overall.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	I saw some of your recent edits, specifically the people that you have given ranks to, and you have done a lot. Helpthepeople9 (talk) 15:30, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Some DYK noms aren't being moved to the Approved page

Wugapodes, is there a reason why Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of the Saw hasn't been moved from the DYK Nominations page to the Approved page? I had just manually moved Template:Did you know nominations/William E. Miller (Medal of Honor) from Nominations to Approved before I found this one, but since it also hasn't moved, I thought I'd leave it in place so you can look into why it hasn't moved. Please let me know what you find. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

They both had File:Symbol_confirmed.svg. I changed the underscore to a space in the unmoved one; let's see if the bot takes care of it now. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:14, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

It did. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:22, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh, weird, I thought I'd fixed that before. I've updated the code now so that it should recognize the underscore variant. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)