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WikiCup 2019 May newsletter

The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:

  • Scotland Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
  • Wales Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
  • Adam Cuerden (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
  • Kingdom of Prussia Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.

Other notable performances were put in by Chicago Barkeep49 with six GAs, United States Ceranthor, England Lee Vilenski, and Saskatchewan Canada Hky, each with seven GARs, and Denmark MPJ-DK with a seven item GT.

So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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NPR Newsletter No.18

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Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

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Chomsky

Re: Midnightblueowl, I just meant that when the article is ready to be nominated for GA status, MBO should be the one to actually make the nomination and therefore receive primary credit for the article becoming a GA (if the nomination succeeds). Her contributions to the article far exceed those of anyone else, including myself as the individual with the most edits to the article in terms of absolute numbers. Vrrajkum (talk) 01:36, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Vrrajkum: Thanks for clarifying, I'm not familiar with the relative contributions of people to the article so that's good to know. I think she should definitely get credit for her substantial work. At the same time, she can get credit for her work even if she doesn't nominate the article. I think your note is important in making sure that happens though, and if the nomination succeeds her contributions should be made clear. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 01:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the close! Just to point out that the tracking categories already exist, and were mentioned in the proposal itself, see Category:Commons category Wikidata tracking categories. My post-rfc plan for now is to just keep working through the backlog of discrepancies there... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 05:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mike Peel: Oh, I realize I didn't understand the categories. Reading the Category:Commons category Wikidata tracking categories header again, I think I had misunderstood the scope of the category as wider than it is. I thought the three clauses were independent criteria, but now I realize that it is both of the first two OR the last, ((X and Y) or Z). Sorry about that. I've removed the suggestion from the close; it was the part I was least confident about anyway. You know how to proceed better than me after all. The category is very big though, have you considered an additional task for Pi bot that adds a talk page notice for category members it isn't able to resolve under task 4? That way you can hopefully get more eyes on the category than just your own. I think you have a good proposal and have been doing really good work. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 08:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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WugBot didn't update the Reports page last night

Wugapodes, since you're currently testing the new version of WugBot that makes the GAN report, I thought I should let you know that it didn't run last night.

I'm not entirely sure why: the usual reason, that there's a problem with a GAN due to the review page having disappeared or something that causes an "Unknown" to be written on the GAN page instead of a valid username, didn't appear to be an issue at the time the report should have been created.

At any rate, you'll probably want to check to see whether the bot successfully runs tonight, and if not, restart it or do whatever needs to be done. Thanks as always for having created this bot; it's very useful. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:34, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Thanks for pointing this out! It was easy to track down now that I've added custom error logging. It should be fixed now. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 02:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Wugapodes, 01:00 just passed, and no sign of a new Report page. Something may still not be cooperating. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:05, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I forgot to change the cron job back to 01:00 aftter my tests last night so it will actually run at 02:37, I will however set it back to 01:00 after that run. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 01:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
I was actually right there so it waas an easy change, it'll run at 01:15, I'll set it back to 01:00 right after. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 01:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Great. Thanks for doing that; it ran 15 minutes ago. Looking forward to an 01:00 run tomorrow. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Last update was June 13

Just a quick note that the bot hasn't done an update since 01:00 on June 13. If you could get it restarted, that would be great. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Bug report

I'm very happy you were able to add the checking for the Malformed Nominations section, and restored it, though I didn't actually realize that until today. One of the entries (and there had been another, as I noticed by checking back) has the link "Unknown Nomination" going to the Film section. It appears to have been for the nomination of Rushmore (film), and I've just fixed it so it isn't malformed any more—there were no links in the "nominator" field—but in other cases where that has happened, the name of the nominated article has been displayed. I'm afraid I've fixed the GA nominee field in question, which may hamper your testing, for which my apologies, but I thought it was better to fix it now. (I suppose you could always temporarily revert my fix to the template, so long as you put it back afterward.) BlueMoonset (talk) 14:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Glad you find the malformed noms section helpful! I think the problem was actually this edit which caused the bot to choke on the Miscellaneous section for some reason. I'm looking into it now, but the bot was able to run fine on the current page (that nom was categorize as sports and rec today) so things should be fine in the mean time. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 20:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Should be fixed now, though we'll need to wait for another misc nomination to know for sure. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 21:26, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for restarting the bot. Looks like I was wrong (or didn't fix it well enough); the "Unknown Nomination" showed up again in tonight's run, and it's still in the Film section. I'll let you check it out to see which nomination it is and why it keeps happening. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to see you're planning on using the Wikibreak Enforcer in the near future. Hope all is well. There's no true urgency in this particular bug, though I'd like to fix the malformed nomination, whichever one it is, if at all possible. I did go through the twelve Film nominations, but couldn't see one that was obviously malformed (aside from one correction I made that didn't affect anything). Might it be one that isn't listed, but is still showing up for some reason? BlueMoonset (talk) 15:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Wugapodes, the Unknown Nomination is still showing up. Have you been able to figure out what's causing this? Is this a false report, or is one of the nominations in Film actually malformed? Please let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:39, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I think it's a false report. I still haven't been able to track down what's causing it unfortunately. I'll let you know when I find out what's causing it though. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 19:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, Wugapodes. I'll ignore the Unknown Nomination report there going forward, except to let you know if it should disappear or if more of the same name should appear. Best of luck in tracking it down; bugs can be tricky things to trace. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at

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WikiCup 2019 July newsletter

The third round of the 2019 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round needed to score at least 68 points, which is substantially lower than last year's 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • Norfolk Island Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
  • South Carolina Adam Cuerden, with 480 points, a tally built on 16 featured pictures, the result of meticulous restoration work
  • Cascadia (independence movement) SounderBruce, a finalist in the last two years, with 306 points from a variety of submissions, mostly related to sport or the State of Washington
  • United States Usernameunique, with 305 points derived from a featured article and two GAs on archaeology and related topics

Contestants managed 4 (5) featured articles, 4 featured lists, 18 featured pictures, 29 good articles, 50 DYK entries, 9 ITN entries, and 39 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and it is imperative to claim them in the correct round; one FA claim had to be rejected because it was incorrectly submitted (claimed in Round 3 when it qualified for Round 2), so be warned! When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

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20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Why de-index this outline?

Can you please explain why you removed Outline of cannabis from the outlines category? ☆ Bri (talk) 00:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@Bri: it's in the subcategory Category:Outlines of health and fitness. I'm trying to sort Category:Wikipedia outlines into subcategories, and it's easier if they're removed from that category once sorted. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 01:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Oh derp, I missed the other category there. Carry on :)
P.s. I might look and see if there are any other applicable categories. It has a wider breadth than health (e.g. law, farming, religion). ☆ Bri (talk) 01:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Sorry to keep bugging you, but health & fitness is labeled a non-diffusing category which "includes Wikipedia outlines that can also be found in the parent category, or in diffusing subcategories of the parent." Are you sure about deletion from Category: Wikipedia outlines? ☆ Bri (talk) 01:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
@Bri: I plan to put them all back once I'm done, which is soon. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 01:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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Signature

Hi: The closure at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) you performed lacks a signature. It would be best if you added your signature to the close, so people can see who performed it. Cheers, North America1000 05:15, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Thanks for the heads up, didn't notice I forgot the signature. Wug·a·po·des​ 05:21, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the rapid follow-up! North America1000 05:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/WugBot 3 has been approved. Please see the (now closed) nomination page for details. Happy editing! --TheSandDoctor Talk 23:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

WugBot not deleting Approved transclusions after they've been closed?

Wugapodes, it looks like WugBot hasn't been deleting transcluded nominations from the Approved page once they're closed.

At the moment, the following nominations have been closed but not deleted:

There may be others, but these ones were easy to find because the dates only had one nomination in them, and these were closed. There may be others hiding in other dates.

This may actually be my fault: I just noticed that I added a blank line in the Special Occasions section before the first dated subsection when I removed a no-longer-needed subsection before it yesterday at 15:52, 19 July 2019‎ (UTC), after the most recent successful removal of a closed nomination at 15:01; I've just removed that blank line to see if doing so improves things. If this turns out to have been the cause, though, perhaps you could have WugBot ignore everything once it hits the "Special Occasions" section of the Approved page, so the spacing within it won't affect things. Thanks for whatever you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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WT:DYK. It isn't a quick fix so I've reverted the template change in the meantime; things should return to normal almost immediately. It won't affect pages that were closed while the change was active (so the past few hours), so if it looks like WugBot is ignoring a nomination, you can remove it manually or revert the close and re-close the nomination. I'm going to look into how to fix the problem with WugBot. Wug·a·po·des
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