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The result was delete. KTC (talk) 00:48, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DataPop, Inc.

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Non notable and promotional. The references are either incidental mentions or public relations.

(Yet another promotional article accepted from AfC. Going through them chronologically up to the present, the proportion of bad articles accepted to good articles rejected is increasing. It's now about 2:1. We could do better by doing it at random. ) DGG ( talk ) 23:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. KTC (talk) 00:50, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Arco (company)

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DePRODed by creator without addressing the issue. Cpncern was: Being selected to supply a possibly important customer is not an indication of significance or importance.. When I originally patrolled this new article, if it hadn't been for the claim in the single reference, I would have tagged it for CSD A7. No other significant sources found. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:05, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete: On the one hand this appears to be a firm with 1500 employees in business for almost 100 years, and some local importance [1]. On the other hand, aside from that Guardian passing mention, plus a mention that the firm have been reducing their carbon footprint, and some PR-type articles in "Food Trade Review" about branch openings, I am not finding anything about the firm to meet
    reliable sources are identified though. AllyD (talk) 08:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Comment: This looks as if it might be a reliable source from 1955 if anyone can get hold of the original (Rubber Journal, volume 129). As the company does seem to have been in existence for nearly a century, I would be surprised if a really thorough search could not come up with more sources - though, given the company's original name, some of the coverage from the 1970s and 1980s might be distinctly negative. PWilkinson (talk) 10:30, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. So what? What have they done? What makes them more notable than the supplier of funny-shaped hats for the 2008 Olympics? Lack of sources. Gm545 (talk) 16:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I've looked over the sources cited by others above, as well as the one in the article currently, plus I did some searching of my own and came up empty. All total I'm just not seeing an significant coverage that would meet
    WP:CORPDEPTH.--KeithbobTalk 21:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. KTC (talk) 01:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brimstone (wrestler)

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Subject has achieved nothing of note as a professional wrestler. The article generally fails

WP:GNG as there is no evidence that the subject has been the recipient of substantial, non-trivial coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources.
Given the sockpuppet investigation into the article's major contributors and that, as LM2000 pointed out, googling "Brimstone wrestler wikipedia" brings up websites making fun of us for allowing such blatant self-promotion, it is surely time to exorcise this wikidemon. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 23:01, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - I'm not a fan of articles facing multiple AfDs but this is certainly an exceptional case. This article was created by a user who was, at one point, blocked for promoting Brimstone.[2] Not long after that, at least two recently confirmed sockpuppets were created. For years they lovingly maintained the article. At one point the article was filled up with so much puffery, according to the
    fresh start
    with brand new history. As Suriel brilliantly words it, this has become a "wikidemon" that wrestlingmark3:16 and the like flock to for a laugh.
But I would go further and delete it for good. When you remove all of the puff, this subject fails
WP:ENT. The patron saints of the article, who are now banned for sockpuppetry, would have included more reliable coverage in the article if it had existed.LM2000 (talk) 00:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - there are notable independent wrestlers (who wrestle on the independent circuit and there are non-notable independent wrestlers. As a user with interest and knowledge of professional wrestling, it is puzzling how I have never heard of this wrestler before. Look on the web and you'll see other people with an interest in professional wrestling who have never heard of this guy.
  • 1) calls an older version of the page as "The Funniest Entry on Wikipedia" What happens when someone with a huge ego, but no notability proceeds to write their own Wikipedia article? Let’s just throw into the blender that this person is also a pro-wrestler and a huge mark for themselves... considering this is someone who competed in my backyard when I was younger, I’ve never even heard of him before. In fairness most people have probably never heard of him though, considering he has never wrestled for any of the major wrestling feds or even the major indy feds (ROH, Chikara, PWG… to name a few)... If your wondering why there’s so many gems, it’s because this reads more like someone writing their life story on Livejournal, not an encyclopedia entry.
  • 2) At some online forums you have users saying There's an awful lot of information on there for such a small name and It makes him seem as big a wrestling star with cross-over appeal like Hogan or Rock or Cena. To a non-wrestling fan reading it, it makes him seem as big a wrestling star as Tom Hanks is to movies or Elvis was to music or Ted Williams was to baseball... It does read as if it's a personal memoir written written like the Rock talks.
  • 3) and other forums: like indy guys nobody heard or cares about but somehow, has the most detail about them, this one is Brimstone where it goes on huge amount to talk about Brimstone's entire career... something tells me that Brimstone wrote this one himself
Even now that the article has been vastly trimmed down, three of the sources are primary sources, reference 3 (about CMPW), reference 9 from CAJOHNS, reference 14 from Brimstone's website, and three no, four (missed the bumblefoot one) of the sources in the article are interviews with Brimstone, something I consider to be nearer to a primary source because where's the fact checking? Brimstone could have made the things up - (this is not currently in the article) but in reference 1 (the warned interview) he claims to have founded the New York Wrestling Connection which had its first wrestling event in 1998, which from three online sources never held an event until 2003 here, also here and here!
Now usually pro wrestler articles will have lots of Wiki-links, because by their nature the articles will link to other notable pro wrestlers or other notable wrestling companies or notable wrestling championships. A random example I thought of -
WP:NOTINHERIT
for his trainers. Also, quite a few claims in this already short article fails to cite a source.
tl;dr - if everything Brimstone associates with, no matter in pro wrestling (fellow wrestlers, companies, championships), comics, sauces and his wife is not notable, how notable do you think he himself is? Starship.paint (talk) 04:05, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete - far weaker than I thought before analyzing, but still delete. Brimstone the wrestler is utterly non-notable. The previous AfD, before someone brings up the fact that it was kept unanimously, had four sockpuppet keep votes (User:Fall Of Darkness and User:RingWars2007 were just busted for sockpuppetry, two other users turned out to be socks of banned user Justa Punk.) Brimstone had never wrestled in a notable promotion, held a notable title, or done anything otherwise notable. The long string of sources that persuaded some of the prior keep votes were often shoehorned or partially falsified (for example, the sources used to cite that "Brimstone has been linked to Dawn Marie's Wrestler Rescue" actually only said he would be at an autograph signing with a couple dozen other wrestlers)
    However, there may be a case of notability for William Kucmierowski as a comic book writer, due to the businessinfoguide interview being a fairly strong source. Even so I'm going weak delete because of that policy that says people only notable for one thing usually aren't notable (my acronym-fu is failing me I can't think of the policy name). 96.244.132.35 (talk) 04:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC) full disclosure since policy-knowledgable IPs are suspect - I'm a former longterm-inactive wikipedia user who's been messing about a bit lately but doesn't remember his old password or feel like registering a new name[reply]
  • Delete per nom and previous votes.リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen) (talk) 12:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not notable, as detailed above. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:18, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - can I check that any redirects to the article will be deleted as well? Starship.paint (talk) 08:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alright I've proposed a deletion of the Wikiquote page as well here, please head over there to vote. Starship.paint (talk) 03:11, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think we should propose for deletion Brimstone's photos. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:39, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
alright, KILL STEEN KILL. Next station, Commons *beep* Starship.paint (talk) 04:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - There are no real policy-based grounds for deleting this article, which is properly sourced. That sockpuppets were involved in its creation says nothing whatsoever about the notability of the subject, and is merely being touted as a prejudicial device. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Would you mind sharing which of the sources you consider to be acceptable per
WP:GNG? ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 15:15, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
Of the nine participants in this discussion who posted before you, only two directly mentioned the sockpuppets in their posts. Yours truly was one of them, 96.244.132.35 was the other, both mentions of the sockpuppets were to explain how this article survived two previous AfDs, which is rather essential in a case like this... Nobody is arguing that this article should be deleted because of sockpuppetry. This is a lengthy discussion so I can't blame you if you didn't read all of it, but the notability issue has been addressed by almost everyone.LM2000 (talk) 05:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - There appear to be secondary sources in the article, such as the NBC News citation, that go to notability. Nightscream (talk) 14:18, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not as impressive as "NBC News" sounds. That's a single
significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 15:15, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
The way the sources are placed in the article are just as disingenuous as any other content placed in the article and victim to the same puffery issues. If an argument is made that the sources are adequate, although others in this thread make a strong case to the contrary, the article will need to be deleted to start from scratch (
WP:TNT). Even after the earlier enemas, we're still digging up new issues.LM2000 (talk) 22:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
I did mention in my original vote for deletion above about the questionable sources (primary / interview) and that in interviews, Brimstone has made dubious claims that affect reliability and believability. Well, looks like I have to go through this again, this time one by one. Starship.paint (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 1: Warned interviews Brimstone. Essentially, this is a primary source as we are all hearing the information from Brimstone's mouth. There's no fact-checking at all. In fact, Brimstone does make some dubious claims - "The show was ... manned by Lord Clarence MacDougal, Hostile, Mayhem, and myself. We needed a name, and Hostile came up with N.Y.W.C., or New York Wrestling Connection ... The NYWC was born… The first event held in August of 1998". Essentially in this interview conducted in 2007, Brimstone claims credit for founding New York Wrestling Connection and played a part in its first event in 1998. Meanwhile, I have three online sources that claim that NYWC never held an event until 2003 1, 2 and 3. Also, here is NYWC's website. I searched it for "Brimstone" and "1998", nothing came up. Likewise, I invite you to search on NYWC's forums, there's zero mention of Brimstone, a few of 1998 but nothing related to NYWC having an event in that year or Brimstone. Makes you wonder, that if he makes a dubious claim in this interview, what other claims in that interview are dubious? What other claims in other interviews are dubious. It means I can hardly consider any interview of Brimstone reliable. Interviews with Brimstone are cited six times in that article. Imagine if we removed all of those.
  • References 2 and 4, are newspaper references. Unfortunately, we are unable to read the newspaper articles (could someone link to them?) so how are these verifiable? And these are newspapers so significant to the degree that they do not have pages on Wikipedia.
  • Reference 3 is obviously a primary source, about CMPW, by CMPW.
  • Reference 5 and 6 are about Wrestler's Rescue, a one-day event. "A day meet-n-greet event and an evening dinner event with auctions, entertainment and more." I'm not sure how this counts as two sources of significant coverage for Brimstone. He doesn't take up more than fifteen words across both sources. One source focused on Dawn Marie, the other on Bumblefoot. Brimstone is mentioned as 'slated to appear' at the event along with forty other people, because for both the references were conducted before the event, we don't even know if he even turned up for the event.
  • Reference 7, 9 and 11 are all interviews with Brimstone. Please refer to reference 1 about verifiability and dubious claims.
  • Reference 8 is a primary source (CaJohns), Brimstone releases some sauces with CaJohns, and CaJohns reports that.
  • Reference 10 is a secondary source for Brimstone getting married. Well good for him, but is he notable for that?
  • Reference 12 is from Online World of Wrestling, which the WP:PW style guide does not consider a reliable source, but under 'Other websites (not yet proven)' to be Use with caution, mainly for uncontroversial claims such as the attendance of the event, as these sites do not have proven fact checking. If you look at Brimstone's page, it states him winning a bunch of titles, on unknown dates and defeating ????? wrestlers. Seems fishy to me. Oh look, it says he won the NYWC Tag Titles thrice. That's weird, then shouldn't be recognized as a champion?
  • Reference 13 is a primary source from Brimstone's own website.
  • Reference 14 shows Brimstone winning a championship. Huzzah. A championship so minor, out of the eleven other wrestlers who won it, only two have Wikipedia pages.
One additional thing that hasn't been brought up yet - what's missing from the article? A
PWI 500 mention, from a magazine WP:PW considers established. This site keeps track of how wrestlers are ranked in top 500 in the world based on their accomplishments in that year. Never in his career, not one year, has Brimstone appeared in a PWI 500 list. Never. This is a guy who's hopped across jobs while never being successful at anything much. Wrestling, comics, sauces. To quote BoosterBronze from Brimstone's talk page... "you can stack cow-patties a mile high and they still never become a pot of gold." Starship.paint (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
Damn. Even JB Jammer, Battle Monkey and Phil Latio made the bottom 100. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No solid secondary sources with substantial coverage are presented here, even big-name news sources. Wait until he appears in books or academic journals. Nyttend (talk) 02:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
While I don't see the current sourcing as anywhere near strong enough I don't think we need academic journal coverage to have articles for wrestlers.--174.93.163.194 (talk) 04:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Something like Pro Wrestling Illustrated, which Starship mentioned, would be a reasonable substitute for wrestling related articles. Nothing like that ever covered Brimestone though so it's irrelevant either way.LM2000 (talk) 04:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Seriously??? Nothing that satisfies rule
    WP:42. What's the fuss? Let's piledrive this troll! Gm545 (talk) 13:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 17:46, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of scientists known for opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of the cause of AIDS

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The list of scientists who both oppose the scientific and medical consensus – that HIV is the cause of AIDS – and whose opinions are intrinsically noteworthy enough for Wikipedia coverage (whether due to their stature as scientists in general, or because of particular prominence on this one issue) is quite short, and likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future. We already do a better job of covering these individuals by mentioning them – or their research – with appropriate WP:WEIGHT in the proper (NPOV) context of our parent article on HIV/AIDS denialism. Where sufficiently notable (currently only Duesberg clears this threshold) we would link from the parent article to individual biographical articles per standard Wikipedia practice.

Maintaining the separate list has potential BLP, SYN, and WEIGHT issues, caused by potentially over-emphasizing one aspect of a scientist's career and by discussing HIV denialism outside of the context and contrast provided within the parent article.

See also the related List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of the thimerosal controversy, the associated discussion at WT:MED and corresponding AfD, for which many of the same arguments apply. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 22:38, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete with the strongest possible support for deletion. This is an entirely subjective list with no inclusion criteria discussed. The nominator says it better than I ever can, but I would emphasise most strongly that it almost certainly falls foul of BLP policies and should be removed as a matter of some urgency, in the interim it may prove sensible and prudent to remove the names from the page. Nick (talk) 22:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Not incredible, very credible indeed! Xxanthippe (talk) 05:29, 27 December 2013 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete as a fork. Carrite (talk) 03:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Without expressing an opinion on whether the article should be deleted, I will say that some of the reasons given for deletion seem wrong to me. I don't believe that there is a significant BLP issue here. The potential BLP problems of this list are not worse than the potential BLP problems of
    talk) 19:45, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete This kind of list needs to go extinct on Wikipedia. Project Steve shows why such lists are problematic. Now who is brave enough to go for the big one? jps (talk) 05:25, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete If a scientist objected to the findings of a particular research paper related to the cause of AIDS, would they be added to this list? Or would that only happen if the scientist were known to "oppose" something more general? What? What criteria could be used? Lists like this are highly misleading because in a world of 7 billion, there will always be people who oppose anything. However, science is not a vote, and an article should not be an indiscriminate collection of information—merely something which appeals to an editor. Johnuniq (talk) 05:46, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Agree with the nomination rationale. I am One of Many (talk) 07:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. KTC (talk) 00:59, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merlin Homeland Mall

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May not be sufficiently notable to meet

WP:CORP. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. The "hall of fame" is the only thing that makes this close to noteworthy but the award isn't substantial enough. Gm545 (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Keep (non-admin closure). Chris857 (talk) 00:29, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Human skull

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Not notable JujitsuJohn (talk) 21:40, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to PC Connection. Though I see little truly worth merging here, Courcelles 18:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ValCom

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Non-notable as per

WP:CORPDEPTH by secondary sources to suggest it was ever notable. Drm310 (talk) 18:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, | Uncle Milty | talk | 21:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. KTC (talk) 01:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

King & The Cauze (Group)

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Group fails

WP:GNG. Koala15 (talk) 21:05, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 20:39, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos (Sir Los) Jordan

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There are claims of notability but not verified by

reliable sources. I searched on my own but could not verify. Going by username of creator and promotional level, the claims seem dubious. Already prodded under slightly different name (Carlos Jordan (Sir Los)) CutOffTies -- (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions don't address the policy-based deletion rationales and boil down to

WP:ILIKEIT, which as has been noted is a weak argument in deletion discussions.  Sandstein  12:26, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Timeline of the future in forecasts

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A festival of

WP:CRYSTAL, nothing has improved since the last visit to AFD. And five years later, a number of the predictions have been overtaken by time, leaving 2004 as the baseline for the future. Surely there is a market out there for a book (or probably another book) about futurological predictions, but the mere fact that we can cite such predictions is not a good enough reason for us to write an article about them, still less being able to make something coherent of it. It's not a timeline, and it's not at all clear why some predictions should be taken seriously and others omitted; inclusion seems indiscriminate; it cries out for a thesis making sense of all this data, and that's something we don't do. This is Popular Science's territory, not ours. Mangoe (talk) 19:51, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. It took a wiki walk to find this page, and I don't want it going anywhere. While it could be reformatted into a singular timeline, the information present is a good start, and I think that more could be added by citing various corporate and governmental websites regarding their "plans" for the future. 71.215.184.162 (talk) 02:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • TV Tropes is not a reliable source, not that I see what the point of this is anyway. Mangoe (talk) 02:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just boils down to
    WP:ILIKEIT. Gm545 (talk) 17:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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  • Boils down to
    WP:ITSUSEFUL. Gm545 (talk) 17:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 00:52, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (India)

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This is essentially a condensed reprint of bureaucratic regulations, retaining all the details of the bureaucratic language. It's not encyclopedic, and there are no third party references. An article on this topic might be appropriate, but probably not separate articles country by country in this fashion DGG ( talk ) 00:38, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep There is no doubt that aircraft maintenance engineer is a notable occupation. If it is felt that the similarities between countries are greater than the differences then there could be a new article into which this and

WP:ENGVAR applies. --AJHingston (talk) 11:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:41, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

National Mobility Equipment Dealers Association

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Promotional article for non notable organization. The references are to the general subject, not to the organization DGG ( talk ) 01:17, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Márquez

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non-notable artist. damiens.rf 19:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The article from The Age cited is a good source and there are several GBooks results, e.g. [3], [4], [5]. I also found coverage in a GNews archive search a while back but Google seem to have dropped the archive(?). --Michig (talk) 19:51, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The article is comprised of 1 or 2 sentences, which violates
    A1. Article has existed for over 8 years, but no significant improvements or future signs of improvement whatsoever. TheTriple M 20:40, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete- no sufficient English-language sources. This page is better off in the Spanish Wikipedia. — Preceding
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  • Delete. I'm looking at
    WP: ARTIST and can't see anything in the article that conforms to that. Were this article new, I'd go for a weak keep to allow time for it to build up, but it's been here since 2005 so if the subject was notable I'm sure we'd have a lot more to go on by now. --gilgongo (talk) 16:43, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) buffbills7701 21:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whitney R. Harris World Law Institute

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Promotional article about individual research center in a law school. Most of the content is about the background for the various causes pursued or investigated there, not the work of the center. DGG ( talk ) 01:02, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • merge and redirect to
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  • Keep The activities, awards, and conferences of this institution seem to be quite significant and have received some coverage that cumulatively establishes notability. Candleabracadabra (talk) 06:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedily deleted by

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George M. Moore Farmstead

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I'm submitting this article for two reasons. (1) The preamble implies that the text is copied from a survey published by the Minnesota Historical Society.[7] Copyright must be assumed without evidence to the contrary. (2) Nothing in the text clues us into any significance the property might have, and virtually all of it is at a level of detail that is way beyond encyclopedic. I would try to make a decent stub out of it but I don't think there's sufficient noteworthy info in it for that. —Largo Plazo (talk) 18:47, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. The farmstead is listed on the National Register of Historic Places (property #86003604 [8]). I will check the article out for copyright issues. The subject is notable even if the article has to be reduced to a stub. • Gene93k (talk) 23:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep on national register. Dlohcierekim 01:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Colonial Country Club (Fort Myers)

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Written by a SPA named after the course, sounding like a sales brochure, it really asserts not claim of notability. The private course isn't on any notable "best of" lists", doesn't host any notable tournaments and really has nothing more than the fact that it's there. Searching for sources is difficult because the real estate sites dominate the returns. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:59, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not notable golf course....William 12:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete almost a speedy. Blatant spam. LibStar (talk) 14:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:03, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Star Revolt

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Can't find anything to suggest notability. All the coverage I can find is primary or routine. Jamesx12345 17:50, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Less than 50 Google search results, which indicates a lack of notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:42, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Herrod

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Article lacks reliable secondary sources. Two major contributors to the article are connected to the subject. Hirolovesswords (talk) 02:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I second that. Massive COI.
WP:NUKEANDPAVE. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:42, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Duffy (entrepreneur)

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An article at Craig Duffy was A7'd 3 times in 2008 and salted. (If this article survives it needs to be moved to that title, no need for disambiguation). No evidence that this man is notable: he is "was the Founding Director & CEO of one of Australia's fastest growing and largest IT companies" but it's not named. Also Founder and CEO of several redlinked companies. The refs are mostly to his role as a snooker player, and to LinkedIn. PamD 10:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • weak keep Even though the article isn't well written it does meet some
    WP:gng guidelines.--Jeffrd10 (talk) 13:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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how does it meet WP:GNG? He has no significant coverage except for minor snooker achievements. LibStar (talk) 14:04, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 00:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Roby (hacker)

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Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability at required by

WP:NOTHERE. Msnicki (talk) 06:09, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Actually I'm citing more sources right now, I just wanted to get the page started while I work on it further. To answer your question as to whether or not I am this person, I am not. I asked Richard if there were a photo I could use for the page since online profiles appear to be photos which are not of him. He linked me to a photo on his Facebook page and said it would be alright to use it.Please, allow me more time to compile all of the information together, I'll have everything up to code in a minute. Also, if you need me to verify identity, as in verify I am not the subject that would be fine, just let me know how I might go about doing that and I'll be more than happy to. I'm rather disappointed though that you would automatically make this assumption and jump to conclusions without even asking for verification. --InfoSecGuy (talk) 07:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I believe I have now clarified my point with the page, and I have added a few new sources as well from Wired & Washington Post. I believe the trouble with, searching Google, by the way is that you are not searching correctly, I can find the subject perfectly fine by name or handle, it's getting through much of the "trash talk" that is cluttering results which is the issue. If you look up "Richard Roby"+Krashed on google for example, you would find much more information including news articles from wired & Academic sources across various websites within the edu namespace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoSecGuy (talkcontribs) 07:36, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Wired article is indeed focused on him, and that is a reliable source. I am changing my vote to abstain. Ping me if there are any new developments or significant arguments. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete Not finding any significantt coverage. As stated above, the refs given either are mostly trivial mentions or non mentions of him. Seems to have been a minor player in a single court case. noq (talk) 11:10, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes.
WP:ONEEVENT seems to speak to your point: "The general rule in many cases is to cover the event, not the person." If there was to be an article at all, the better choice would likely be FBI Operation CyberSlam, but from Googling, I'm not convinced there are sufficient sources to establish notability for that, either. Msnicki (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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I think what he did might be notable, but a separate bio article is not needed. An article on the attacks is probably justifiable, if the content could be merged. Jamesx12345 18:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:05, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SiteKiosk

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I'm not a massive computer person, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but this article uses mostly source from the subject, and a Google doesn't go any further establishing notability. Matty.007 17:39, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Remarkable coincidence that the article I made up and updated frequently is accused to use "mostly source from the subject" and I'm officially been accused of having a close relationship with the article's subject... after I started a discussion on Kiosk software and talked to it's major contributor. This is a software product which is used by many users. Could you please explain what kind of "further establishing notability"you're missing? BroncoPfefferminz (talk) 19:26, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The references don't establish notability, Google doesn't establish notability, what makes this a stand out example of software? Matty.007 16:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is the stand out example of kiosk software. To understand the article you'll necessary need to know kiosk mode/kiosk software. There are not many solutions to prevent vandalism and to secure your public PC (POS, POI, ...) properly. On the other hand there's increased demand for those solutions. With "more than 250,000 copies of SiteKiosk" installed it is one of the most used kiosk software solutions worldwide. I'll try to find more references which aren't too closely connected to the maker of that product. BroncoPfefferminz (talk) 08:38, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I cannot find any material by running a Google search to support notability. No significant coverage by independent sources. May just be a case of
    WP:TOOSOON. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Did some research and added independent sources to support notability and neutrality. BroncoPfefferminz (talk) 13:07, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've used SiteKiosk a number of times to secure kiosks. Some references: http://webconverger.org/blog/entry/SiteKiosk_versus_Webconverger/ http://serverfault.com/questions/186678/siteremote-sitekiosk-alternatives http://lifehacker.com/161071/lock-down-public-terminals-with-sitekiosk http://www.arvutid.ee/en/infokiosks/freestanding-kiosks/infokiosk-ml-730.html . In this case I could see that notability could be a relative thing, and this isn't a highly notable piece of software. But it is (has been?) well known, and certainly isn't a fiction. -- Dan Griscom (talk) 18:09, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • One's a blog, one seems to be a forum, another one seems like a blog, and one's selling it. So, none of them pass as reliable sources. Thanks, Matty.007 18:14, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Could you please give your opinion on the sources I've added three days ago? BroncoPfefferminz (talk) 18:37, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • The first added merely uses it as a reference, and doesn't talk about it at all as far as I can see. The book isn't loading for me. The Microsoft one is a promotional thing whereby a customer review is published as far as I can tell. The PrinterOn is again a promotional release, between partners if the article is correct, and also a blog. So, none of these sources are reliable. Thanks, Matty.007 19:19, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
          • The book is loading. I've also added a Master's thesis. If you don't accept an article on the Microsoft website as reliable and notable source there's something wrong and you shouldn't be allowed to talk computer stuff on wikipedia. If you always expect a Time Magazine frontcover of the article's subject there are not really much notable subjects on wikipedia. Thanks, 79.252.219.179 (talk) 09:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
            • Sorry, just for transparency, is this BroncoPfefferminz logged out? Thanks, Matty.007 14:47, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
              • The Microsoft thing is a customer written (I think) promotional thing trying to get people to use Windows 8. Matty.007 14:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
                • Yes, that was me. I'm really trying to make you change your mind on the deletion of this article, but it seems kind of hard to get any source that pleases you. For me it's not transparent why this article lacks of notability and reliability (especially after I've added more recources that have no connection to the maker) compared to most of the other articles that deal with software that isn't that prominent. BroncoPfefferminz (talk) 15:35, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
                  • I've given the issues I have with the sources. Anyway, one vote does not a deleted article make... Thanks, Matty.007 15:37, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete -
    notability beyond this has not been established. Has is won an award, is it the first one of many, is it indicated by 3rd party sources as the best they have seen... etc... 250,000 users does not make a piece of software notable in and of it self. - Pmedema (talk) 18:36, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. No references that pass rule
    WP:42. They seem to be all published by the company, trivial mentions or unrelated. Gm545 (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Paige Adams

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I don't think that a state beauty pageant winner is automatically notable — at least I see no guideline that says that one is — and whereas oftentimes pageant winners are notable for other reasons, this one appears to have no such other notability. Delete then redirect to Miss California. --Nlu (talk) 17:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Aside from winning this, I'm not seeing the notability. While the title may be notable, BLP1E might apply to the individual. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shams ul Fuqara

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Notability not established. Declined AfC submission posted in main space, see Wikipedia_talk:Articles for creation/Shams ul Fuqara. An earlier, even spammier version was speedied before, but can still be seen at User:Mrashid364. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 16:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: originator has not provided evidence of WP:Notability, and current text is still spammy/promotional and written for adherents, rather than a neutral treatment for a global audience. MatthewVanitas (talk) 09:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy delete per

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Riverside line

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I can't find anything on the web about this and believe it is a hoax. Jprg1966 (talk) 15:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy delete, blatant hoax, tagged as such. --Kinu t/c 04:30, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The U-Do Project

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Laudable, but ultimately

non-notable social enterprise project. The given references consist of a Guardian blog entry written by the organization's founder about the problems in starting up a social enterprise, and a note about a completely unrelated event organized by the organization's founder. The article is pure spam as it stands now, but that could be addressed if reliable independent sources were available to draw from. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nomination. I have, however, just turned down a speedy deletion request (promotional/spammy) because I liked WikiDan's rationale about addressing this problem and adding reliable sources. De728631 (talk) 00:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. Spam. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Mercedes

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Notability has not been established for three months. Some controversial claims need cites and they haven't been forthcoming. Fails

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  • Delete, the one source provided is very weak, proving that Mercedes exists but not much else. Notability most definitely not established. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete, notability has not been established.LM2000 (talk) 01:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The website used for the sole source is currently suspended - not a good indication of it being
    general notability guidelines. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 18:53, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge to Good Game. Courcelles 19:09, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good Game: Pocket Edition

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The Good Game article (of which this show is a spin-off) already contains as much sourced material as seems to be available, I see no need for a separate article. Propose redirecting to Good Game. Samwalton9 (talk) 13:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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As the creator of the article, I'm not going to say whether I feel it should be kept or deleted/redirected, but I just want to say that I definitely see where this nomination is coming from. --

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While currently the entry of Good Game: Pocket Edition on the TV show's main page does have the same references and basic amount of information about the show as the current separate page, I oppose its current deletion. The main page contains a summary, but I feel that more information about the show can be added. I plan to work on the article for the next week, and if after this period of time there is a general consensus that it should be redirected, then so be it. If this is to be the case, I would then request that a separate list of episodes section page be made for pocket edition. Although I have created the majority of this section myself, it acts as a handy reference as to the games, consoles and technologies reviewed more so than the site's similar page.Neuroxic (talk) 00:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. Holy crap. Unless these guys have some rabid fans, someone from the show has got to have been writing the
    WP:COI? Paranoia from the author tends to back that up. It should be fairly easy to identify the TV network's IP addresses if we want to go so far. Gm545 (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating. Please

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M.A.D Playhouse

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I declined a speedy deletion nomination for this article, but I am not sure that the group passes

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I came across two articles which are similar word by word and I inserted the links in this discussion so that community can reach consensus quickly. However, if my statement seems derogatory then I apologize to you and remove it from the discussion. Hitro talk 22:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Does this review published on Urban Asian sound familiar to you? Please note that Press release from a company is a standard procedure and if press is covering the same article that doesn't necessarily prove affiliation. I hope you understand the law of evidence when you claim or speculate someone is affiliated to somebody it is actually derogatory for both the company and the person/organization who has reported it. I think we should all look for the encyclopedic material for wiki and refrain from any speculation which is completely baseless and leaves an ill impression of judgement.--Krazywriter (talk) 05:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do this review look familiar to me? ---> Nope cuz it got published today itself, It's 29th December right now maybe 30th in Australia. I made my researches on 28th, I found nothing on Google. Hitro talk 17:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Looking at all the discussions the major reasons "This article does not cite any references or sources", "This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it" looks invalid. The topic has an undeniable importance and it should be part of Wiki.

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buffbills7701 21:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Raymond Dean

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Couldn't establish

WP:NOTABILITY. Seems to be promotion by WP:Single-purpose account. Boleyn (talk) 12:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Here is C5:

5. The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or "Distinguished Professor" appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon). Criterion 5 can be applied reliably only for persons who are tenured at the full professor level, and not for junior faculty members with endowed appointments. Major institutions, for these purposes, are those that have a reputation for excellence or selectivity. Named chairs at other institutions are not necessarily sufficient to establish notability.

My concerns about whether he meets C5 are: It needs to be a major institution...[with] a reputation for excellence or selectivity. I was unsure if Ball State met that. It also states that Criterion 5 can be applied reliably only for persons who are tenured at the full professor level and I couldn't find evidence that he has tenure. Boleyn (talk) 08:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at Ball State University. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was delete. The arguments that this is speculative original research are convincing. The "keep" opinion does not address them.  Sandstein  12:35, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Future car technologies

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WP:CRYSTAL - whilst giving the reader an utterly inaccurate view of the subject. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 11:14, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • delete One day our cars may be made of unobtainium, or made obsolete by teleportation; but it's obvious that the pages of Popular Science are the place for such speculation, and not here. Mangoe (talk) 19:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; vaguely speculative word-salad, and even the verifiable bits have factual errors. In no way is this a suitable encyclopædia article. bobrayner (talk) 00:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This looks like a legitimate subject with a poor article. If someone can put some real work in and find more sources and all the rest of it, I don't see why it should be deleted. Rcsprinter (rap) @ 00:35, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • It isn't a legitimate subject at all. It doesn't matter what you put in this article; either the technology already exists, and thus it is not a "future technology", or it is pure speculation and
    carbon fibre, which has been used in racing cars since the 1980s, and in some road cars since the 1990s (possibly some in the 1980s as well), is listed in here is just an example of the fallacy of this article. Speculation belongs in the pages of a New Science journal, not an encyclopedia. Lukeno52 (tell Luke off here) (legitimate alternate account of Lukeno94) 11:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Rcsprinter, the article doesn't have "more sources and all the rest of it", so I don't understand why you voted "Keep". If you're saying that somebody in future could hypothetically create an article which has those things, then I would agree, although it is likely to have serious problems with scope; in the meantime, the current article - the article that we're discussing here - doesn't meet our standards, so it should be deleted. bobrayner (talk) 11:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Courcelles 19:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Parlagi

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Non-notable boxer (

WP:NBOX). Peter Rehse (talk) 11:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. He won a national title as a pro and fought at the World Championships as an amateur. --Michig (talk) 18:55, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep Having competed twice at the AIBA world amateur boxing championships is enough to meet
    WP:NBOX. Papaursa (talk) 02:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Willian Costa

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Non-notable MMA fighter - no top tier fights. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. But agreement that it needs cleanup badly.  Sandstein  12:27, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Recurrent evolution

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The user Dogrt attempted to nominate this for deletion earlier. His reasoning is as follows: "The article is mostly a collection of meaningless sentences such as "Recurrent evolution is the noise that is evolution." I would like to see it erased."

I have no opinion on deletion, just procedurally nominating it on this user's behalf. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Sorry for my computer illiteracy. —Dan Graur —Preceding undated comment added 17:41, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep. AfD is not for cleanup. Nom's reasoning about nonsense applies only to the very first sentence in the article, and that appears to be a recent change. I don't claim to be knowledgeable in this field but there are mentions for it in Google Books and Google Scholar going back over 10 years, suggesting this is not a
    jargon. Article could use attention from an expert but nothing here to justify deletion. Ivanvector (talk) 18:26, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Delete. The article is certainly atrociously written and reads like an undergrad essay. What about
    WP:BLOWITUP? Xxanthippe (talk) 02:23, 19 December 2013 (UTC).[reply
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It doesn't really seem that far gone to me, it's just overly technical, and the layout needs improvement. I don't have the technical expertise to clean up the science-y bits but someone should. I tagged the article for attention from
WikiProject Evolutionary biology. Many good articles have started off as someone's homework. Ivanvector (talk) 03:27, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Can you name one Good Article that started out as incoherently as this one? Xxanthippe (talk) 21:38, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The second Good Article I clicked on just now, Radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant, is one that started off pretty rough. Not quite as bad as this, admittedly. I just don't like the idea of blowing things up when there's anything useful just for the sake of blowing them up. Ivanvector (talk) 22:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The latter article is factual, and it is easier to improve a factual article than a windy pseudo-philosophical one like this one. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:13, 19 December 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Not impossible, though, if the topic is worth keeping. Ivanvector (talk) 23:15, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or redirect to
    WP:BLOWITUP. -- 101.119.14.233 (talk) 10:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • wp:IDONTLIKEIT qualifies as a reason for deletion through DRV. But as Xanthippe and our IP address say the article itself is a bad one and needs serious work. Neonchameleon (talk) 12:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment: According to the article, recurrent evolution refers to the category of both parallel evolution and convergent evolution (not just parallel evolution as IP 101 says above). It does kind of make sense as a category given the meaning of the word "recurrent," but I agree that many of the sources are merely cases where the words "recurrent" and "evolution" happened to occur together. I understand most of the terms, and the article, though poorly written, appears to be mostly coherent (main exception: I don't understand "Recurrent evolution is when patterns emerge out of this stochastic process.") - I'm just not completely convinced that the sources treat it as a separate concept. I think the main source from which any case can be made is the first one, Maeso 2012. Perhaps the author (User:J.a.tarkington) could comment here and clarify. Sunrise (talk) 08:14, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article says all kinds of things, but much of what the article says is inconsistent with what reliable sources say. -- 101.119.14.20 (talk) 11:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please be more specific? Which sources, and which statements in the article do they contradict? If the statements are central to the article, then I'll change my comment to a Delete. Sunrise (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The literature (see e.g. Google Books) uses "recurrent evolution" with the ordinary sense of "recurrent." Phrases like "the signal in the noise that is evolution" and "recurrent evolution is when patterns emerge out of this stochastic process" are not supported. -- 101.119.14.244 (talk) 03:01, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We don't appear to be communicating effectively, so never mind. :-) Sunrise (talk) 06:31, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • This freely available article does a good job as summing up the use of the phrase recurrent evolution. Essentially it is just an umbrella term for both convergent and parallel evolution as well as recurrent evolution within a single lineage. The problem I think arises from the multiple uses of the phrase "recurrent evolution". The author of that paper says the phrase has lacked a precise definition, and this has led to confusion. He identifies 3 ways the phrase recurrent evolution has been used: Recurrent Phenotypic Evolution, Recurrent Molecular Evolution, and Recurrent Genomic Evolution. The problem with the current wikipedia article is it jumps back and forth between which of those three it is referring to. In the opening paragraph it defines evolution as the change in allele frequencies within a population, but then uses the phenotypic definition of recurrent evolution, where a common phenotype(not common alleles) arises between populations. Despite that I do think the article is salvageable, but whether it is easier or not to start from scratch I don't know.AioftheStorm (talk) 23:01, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rafael Cordeiro

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Non-notable MMA figher - no top tier fights. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Wanderlei Silva. Courcelles 19:21, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wand Fight Team

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Notability. Unreferenced and notability not established. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:29, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge/Redirect to Wanderlei Silva This article is unsourced and fails to show its subject is notable. There's no mention of this team in Silva's article, but a redirect and/or merge seems reasonable. There's nothing to show the team should have its own individual article. Papaursa (talk) 01:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect Team that Silva represents, which is all the mention it gets in Silva's article. Team is not separately notable--appears to just be an ordinary gym except that it's Silva's.Jakejr (talk) 18:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Cutting through the SPA's we;re left with a consensus that this magazine is not notable Courcelles 19:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Four Quarters Magazine

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No evidence of notability except some in-passing mentions. Does not meet

WP:GNG. Randykitty (talk) 10:27, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Sorry, but none of those links provide evidence of any
    notability. --Randykitty (talk) 12:15, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Please do not delete If every wikipedia page that is not notable is deleted, then I presume that the pages which are not deleted as of now or the pages over which there is no debate can be termed as notable? Four Quarters Magzine's name has been mentioned in more than two wiki pages of notable authors like Nitoo and Xuxi. Besides there are interviews and Reviews written in websites that have notable Wikipedia pages like Duotrope and Prairie Schooner. If almost all the sources that we have suggested below are reliable and notable (in wiki's definition) why then, should you pitch this page for speedy deletion? I seriously hope you reconsider your decision. I dont have any personal interest in popularizing the magazine, we don't get any revenue out of it. It is a literary mag and aimed at fostering art and creativity. Just wanted people around the world to know about it for the love of poetry sake. I hope you will understand. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.176.222.204 (talk) 17:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC) 122.176.222.204 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
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  • Delete. Does not receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Approximately 100 hits on Google. It seems a bit
    too early to create an article at this time. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:42, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • @Randykitty:: If the newspaper published the CFS without us sending them doesn't it qualify for notability? Its an independent source, reliable and unbiased, so it cannot be influenced by any other entity.
  • Delete or
    WP:COI which is ironic given that they can't follow editorial policy. Gm545 (talk) 15:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:44, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tracxta

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This article has been around since 2012 but there haven't been any

WP:BAND. A Google search for Tracxta brings up many pages where their songs are available, but no significant discussion of the band or their music. ... discospinster talk 18:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nom. I cannot find sources to support notability. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:52, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.

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Apeiron (video game)

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Deprodded with one reference, which does not meet

WP:RS as it's only a site that allows download of the game. No reviews or other relevant third party coverage found. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 07:38, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

National Foundation for Popular Culture

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I see no evidence of notability here at all, just existence. DGG ( talk ) 06:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Meets
    WP:AUD
    :

Evidence of attention by international or national, or at least regional, media is a strong indication of notability. On the other hand, attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability; at least one regional, national, or international source is necessary.

WLII-TV
.
And finally, the organization itself is considered a reliable source in matters related to Puerto Rican culture, as shown in the book The Afro-Latin@ Reader: History and Culture in the United States; see [13]:

For information on Lucecita's career [...] see [...] Lucecita's folders at the Fundación Nacional para la Cultura Popular.

Other sources where the foundation is covered include: [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]
Suggestion is to do a search on its Spanish name rather than in English.
Hope this helps.
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  • Keep. The problem is not that the organization lacks notability but that the notability is not evident because the does not yet include citations like the additional citations listed above. As an alternative, it can be marked as a stub while the article is expanded. Mercy11 (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The sources listed by Ahnoneemoos are enough to establish notability. Hopefully the article can be expanded with the new sources explaining the role and importance of the organization. --Jmundo (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Separately and editorially redirecting as suggested.  Sandstein  12:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ragnhild Lorentzen

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There was a discussion in 2009 that reached no consensus. (See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ragnhild Alexandra Lorentzen.) My own reading is that she's not notable enough — she's 66th on the succession list for the British throne, and presumably a lot higher on the Norwegian throne, but the article itself does not assert any other real claim to notability nor is there apparently any. I simply don't see it. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 04:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I don't understand why the last discussion reached a non consensus outcome, but the article's subject lacks sufficient coverage and notability to have its own article within wikipedia. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 04:46, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comment. As it turns out, my assumption that she's higher on the Norwegian succession list is wrong. Looks like she's not eligible for that throne at all. (See
    Line of succession to the Norwegian throne.) --Nlu (talk) 05:29, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bridget Landry

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Is this scientist sufficiently notable? I don't think what was stated here, which merely indicated that she worked on a number of (sure, very important) projects, as well as speaking at conventions, make her sufficiently notable. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 03:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 17:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of the thimerosal controversy

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encyclopedic. jps (talk) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep on rationale of notability but would support delete on the basis of
    WP:V problems here. I do not feel this article should attempt to be a list of scientists who "oppose the mainstream scientific assessment of the thimerosal controversy", but would support this content being moved to List of scientists known for opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of the thimerosal controversy because that number is relatively few and it would relieve BLP concerns. The book Bad Pharma has a chapter on this topic, and suggests that despite the thimerosal controversy becoming a major international controversy, there was scientific consensus on one side and only a few researchers in opposition. Lists on Wikipedia are almost always original research as is the category system, but at least in the case of lists it is possible to provide citations to verify whether a statement is so. It seems that right now many entries in this list are poorly cited and also as I said, I feel that this list should be reserved for people for whom their position on this issue is key to their public identity and not those for whom this affiliation is merely incidental. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Right now this article contains enough content to fork from the thiomersal controversy article and it would be undue to include it. It should not be merged there as a list, although some of this could be included as prose. If these are all major figures in the controversy, and they could be, then it could be awkward to merge so many biographies there. I see seven biographies here with linked Wikipedia articles and would support the exclusion of all individuals who do not meet inclusion criteria, but I feel that 7 is a reasonable number of items to justify a list. If this information is good and there are no challenges to its quality then I think it should be kept. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very well put. Delete. --
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:54, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quicklooker

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Unsourced article about search software. I am unable to find a single source. Fails

WP:NSOFTWARE. - MrX 02:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - Even though NSOFTWARE is an essay, this article fails WP:GNG and lacks substantial coverage. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 04:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete appears to be a self-promotional article, given the name of the originator and sole editor. No sources, no indication of notability, and I have been unable to find any independent evidence of the existence of this project. RolandR (talk) 12:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - several source searches are not providing coverage in reliable sources. Northamerica1000(talk) 21:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Findlay First Edition Show Choir

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1. Before the Google News Archive was closed down, I did a search for [ "Findlay First Edition" ] and found a mere six hits. All were from news outlets from the choir's home state. I suspect that none contained any

WP:42 for more information. (I thank Yunshui for providing inspiration which helped me to write this argument, and User:DocumentError
for inspiring me to change my !vote to "delete".)

2. Plus, I think that this article is full of puffery, and that it fails both

WP:NPOV
.

Cheers, —Unforgettableid (talk) 01:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - TMI in this entry. The bulk of content is more appropriate for the show's own website, not WP. I don't support merge/redirect, I support delete. DocumentError (talk) 02:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete as A7 (non-admin closure). Vulcan's Forge (talk) 14:46, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dailybibletimes.org

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Non-notable website. Google news and scholar search results come up empty-handed. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. No need to apologize for creating this article, it is just at the moment there is consensus that the subject of the article is not notable enough to be in Wikipedia. This can change some day.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Lloyd (venture capitalist)

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No evidence for notability of this venture capitalist. Saying what firms are in his portfolio is meaningless without an indication of what % he owns. Being " "The Angel 100: New York’s Top Early Stage Investors"" is much too broadly inclusive for it to demonstrate notability DGG ( talk ) 01:01, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Hi, I created this article and it was the first article I created for Wikipedia. I have a friend who saw him at a lecture and I started researching him and thought he was notable. I did go through the article submission process and the article was approved by Satellizer. I do not know Lloyd at all. I do have a journalism degree and am a writer; I tried to write a strong article. I apologize if I should not have created the article. Thank you--BuzyBody (talk) 22:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. While there appears not to be a strong COI here, there is no clear notability. Unless we can find something that the subject has done that has not been done by other venture capitalists beyond setting up a VC firm and being a member of it, I am afraid it does not belong on Wikipedia. --gilgongo (talk) 23:30, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. As advertisements.  Sandstein  12:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Khon Kaen MICE Tourism and related articles

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Let me restate, and expand on, what

WP:NPOV and so should be deleted. —Unforgettableid (talk) 00:55, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete all as per nome. Fails what wikipedia is not guidelines and criteria. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 05:15, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. The articles are badly sourced, have no encyclopedic value and are merely promotional. andy (talk) 10:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all. Blatant spamming. Creator also pastes large chunks of MICE spam into existing Thailand articles. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all. I am the creator of the pages and I would like to mention here a few points about why they should not be deleted:
  1. pages represent facts about one of the major industry in Thailand which contributes 10% of total gdp (tourism).
  2. largest source of income in some provinces like Pattaya and Phuket.
  3. Have significant citations in different public forums.
  4. Recognized by corresponding province administrations.
  5. The reason for which pages were nominated for deletion was suspicion of paid editing over me. Like I have already mentioned here, I happen to know about the industry due to my work with it for a short term.
Although I believe some content of the page might appear to be advertised and doesn't meet wikipedia guidelines which I am also in favour of deletion, but removal of whole page due to it should not be done as wikipedia's ultimate aim to enhance knowledge and provide reliable information.
Mr RD (talk) 17:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mr RD. I am the nominator. Why do you think I suspect you of paid editing? Our NPOV policy is binding upon all editors, even though they are unpaid. Cheers, —Unforgettableid (talk) 23:16, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Unforgettableid, I thought of you suspecting me of paid editing as you proposed most of my created pages for deletion. As per NPOV policy is concerned, it allows representing as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. All the statements in the page I have mentioned are with proper citations. If you feel any statement as biased, you could have edited or deleted the same. Regards Mr RD (talk) 14:26, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 09:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Islam ul Haque

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promotional page. His medal is the 4th highest level of award by Pakistan, and we don;t usually consider that as notability DGG ( talk ) 00:40, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - A non flag officer isn't notable of himself absent a claim to fame, of which Haque appears to have none. This is a C.V., not a Wikipedia entry. DocumentError (talk) 02:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. He appears to have had a mildly distinguished, uneventful career, but has neither done nor achieved anything beyond that which would be expected of the duties entrusted to his roles in life. I don't think simply doing your job is notable. --gilgongo (talk) 16:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agilence

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a small company in a specialized niche. The references are just routine anouncements of very small amounts of funding.

Accepted at AfC, like so many similar articles DGG ( talk ) 00:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. The Inc profile linked in the article indicates a small firm going about its business. A Highbeam search turned up various publications of company announcements (appointments, sales) but I am finding no detailed independent coverage about the company itself to meet
    WP:CORPDEPTH. Though the firm's product range appears to have broadened since the 2009 AfD I see no reason to overturn its decision. AllyD (talk) 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply
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