Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 1
February 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 1, 2019.
Pazuzu (comics)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 15#Pazuzu (comics)
Joseph Pike
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- Joseph Pike → List of Marvel Comics characters: P#Joseph Pike (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This page has no links in any namespace. It should be deleted. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 23:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. There aren't any Wikipedia articles that mention any Joseph Pike. Deryck C. 14:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox Mini blind
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- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox Mini blind → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect left behind after moved from a subpage of a now-inactive project page to another of the same. No links or substantive history. I propose it be deleted. Bsherr (talk) 23:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Falsche ISBN
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- The result of the discussion was keep. ]
- Template:Falsche ISBN → Template:Listed Invalid ISBN (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- This may exist for when articles on the German Wikipedia are brought over and translated here on the English Wikipedia. I'm guessing they have a template with this name? --Bsherr (talk) 00:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- The German Wikipedia probably does, but this redirect existing on the English Wikipedia is somewhat akin to importing articles in German to the English Wikipedia and leaving them in German. Steel1943 (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- @]
- @WP:FORRED for the aforementioned reasons, and because the different naming of parameters in templates always has the potential to result in human error. Steel1943 (talk) 21:58, 5 February 2019 (UTC)]
- To add a bit, upon me looking at Template:Listed Invalid ISBN, I viewed the language links on the left side and was able to locate the equivalent of this template on the German Wikipedia: de:Vorlage:Falsche ISBN. In addition, the German page has a linkback to Template:Listed Invalid ISBN listed as well. The links being there are due to the connections set up for this template's Wikidata page. Steel1943 (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's true, I hadn't considered Wikidata. It's not as convenient as a redirect is, but it does save time in identifying the equivalent template. You make a very good point about situations in which the parameters are different. On the other hand, where the parameters are the same and are numerical—and they don't often change with these templates—a redirect seems even more justified. The RfC I find less compelling for this case, in which the redirect seems to have more utility than pure convenience. Well, I feel reassured in having waited before !voting. I'm going to give it another several hours to see if there are any last comments. --Bsherr (talk) 06:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- @
- @]
- The German Wikipedia probably does, but this redirect existing on the English Wikipedia is somewhat akin to importing articles in German to the English Wikipedia and leaving them in German. Steel1943 (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Obviously useful for translated articles. Has 13 transclusions right now in article space. Redirects are cheap. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:14, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Bsherr is exactly right. It saves repetitious work when importing German-language articles. Bermicourt (talk) 08:29, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per the others. No point in randomly creating other-language redirects, but when we import pages from elsewhere, other-language aliases for templates can save a good deal of work. WP:FORRED applies to reader-facing pages, particularly in mainspace; your average reader is never going to see the name of the {{Listed Invalid ISBN}} page (and won't even see the template itself, just its output), and won't know that it's not a part of the article, so WP:FORRED just doesn't apply. Nyttend (talk) 18:26, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, WP:FORRED applies to all namespaces, not just "]
...reader-facing pages
". Steel1943 (talk) 19:23, 3 February 2019 (UTC)- Then you need to get community consensus for expanding the page and applying it to other namespaces. All of the page currently addresses encyclopedic content: The presence of foreign language redirects creates the false impression that you can navigate the English Wikipedia in another language...In addition, having redirects from foreign languages gives readers the impression that a page exists in their native language...Finally, the only language we can rely on our editors speaking is English. None of this matters one bit for a redirect that exists to simplify the transwiki import process. In case you've not seen, retaining a maintenance template's foreign-language alternate name is just slightly different from importing a foreign-language article and leaving it written in the foreign language. It's tempting to request a speedy-keep on option #2, since your arguments are so off-base to suggest that this is a frivolous or vexatious nomination. Nyttend (talk) 21:20, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- "
...Then you need to get community consensus for expanding the page and applying it to other namespaces...
" It already does. Read what you typed again. The word used in that excerpt is "page
", not "article". And I should know about the section you cited: I wrote the original version. There's a very specific reason why that passage was updated to "page" instead of "article": In Wikipedia, "page" refers to any page in any namespace, whereas "article" refers only to pages in the "(article)" namespace. Steel1943 (talk) 21:54, 3 February 2019 (UTC)- In case you haven't seen, the examples refer to people looking for articles, e.g. "there's a redirect for my language to this completely unrelated thing, so my language should have a redirect for this", or typos. It's altogether unrelated to in-house processes, as any idiot can see. It's time for an uninvolved admin to shut down this bad-faith nomination with a stern warning not to violate ]
- @WP:WL is the pot calling the kettle black. Have a great day. Steel1943 (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)]
- @
- In case you haven't seen, the examples refer to people looking for articles, e.g. "there's a redirect for my language to this completely unrelated thing, so my language should have a redirect for this", or typos. It's altogether unrelated to in-house processes, as any idiot can see. It's time for an uninvolved admin to shut down this bad-faith nomination with a stern warning not to violate ]
- "
- Then you need to get community consensus for expanding the page and applying it to other namespaces. All of the page currently addresses encyclopedic content: The presence of foreign language redirects creates the false impression that you can navigate the English Wikipedia in another language...In addition, having redirects from foreign languages gives readers the impression that a page exists in their native language...Finally, the only language we can rely on our editors speaking is English. None of this matters one bit for a redirect that exists to simplify the transwiki import process. In case you've not seen, retaining a maintenance template's foreign-language alternate name is just slightly different from importing a foreign-language article and leaving it written in the foreign language. It's tempting to request a speedy-keep on option #2, since your arguments are so off-base to suggest that this is a frivolous or vexatious nomination. Nyttend (talk) 21:20, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW,
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Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/History and Culture
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- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/History and Culture → Category:Infobox templates (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This redirect was created when a section of a now-deprecated list of infoboxes was renamed, resulting in the moving of this subpage and this redirect being left. Because that list was deprecated in 2008, this redirect targets the category instead. There are no substantive links. There is no substantive history. I propose it be deleted. Bsherr (talk) 22:36, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Louis-Alphonse (anthroponymy)
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- Louis-Alphonse (anthroponymy) → Louis-Alphonse (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jean-Baptiste-Alphonse (anthroponymy) → Jean-Baptiste-Alphonse (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Camille Alphonse (anthroponymy) → Camille Alphonse (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Alphonse Joseph (anthroponymy) → Alphonse Joseph (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Alphonse James (anthroponymy) → Alphonse James (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Alphonse Desjardins (anthroponymy) → Alphonse Desjardins (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I am nominating this set for deletion as a result of a discussion at the
]- Delete all Implausible title for readers, and editors in practice just link to the target directly. There are no incoming links to these redirects. Anthroponymy (name) pages are not disambiguation pages. These unnecessarily mimic the practice of WP:DABNAME to create redirects ending in (disambiguation). Unlike with dab pages, there is no issue with linking to name pages directly.—Bagumba (talk) 02:23, 2 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Comment: I deleted Alphonse Desjardins (anthroponymy) since its target (unlike all of the others in this question) is not an anthroponymy article. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Book:Jehovah's Witnesses
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- The result of the discussion was Nomination withdrawn given @(non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Book:Jehovah's Witnesses → Book:List of denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete Misleading: Jehovah's Witnesses are not part of the LDS movement. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep and repurpose. This book still covered Jehovah's Witnesses until September 2015, when for a reason I can't imagine, the contents were totally replaced with LDS contents. We need to split up the history and move the JW content back here while keeping the LDS content at the current title. I'm not doing that in the middle of a discussion, but if the discussion's closed as I'm proposing, I'll be happy to do the work if the closing admin notifies me. Nyttend (talk) 18:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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Old list of infoboxes subpages
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- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Arts & Entertainment → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Geography → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Other → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Sciences → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Society → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Technology → Wikipedia:List of infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These are redirects created when these pages were deprecated. Specifically, a list of infobox templates was deprecated and later replaced with a new format at the same base page, and these subpages of the old list were redirected to the base page of the new list. These pages were deprecated and redirected by consensus in 2008. There are no substantive links to these subpages and no real historical or attributive value to preserving them. I propose they be deleted. --Bsherr (talk) 22:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete all. Deprecated. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Flow arts
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 12#Flow arts
Complete list of encyclopedia topics
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 12#Complete list of encyclopedia topics
Multiplayer game
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 10#Multiplayer game
12/31/2007
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- 12/31/2007 → 2007#December (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirects from days created at random are
- Delete all per costliness. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:46, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Telecommunications in Socotra
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- Telecommunications in Socotra → Socotra (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Communications in Socotra → Socotra (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These are misleading redirects because the target article does not cover this subject. Someone wanting to know about (tele)communications in Socotra will not be satisfied by an article on Socotra in general. -- Tavix (talk) 15:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, the closest information I could find in the article was about an archbishop being excommunicated, which is unlikely what anyone searching this redirect would be looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 12:09, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Pres. Trump USA Travels
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- Template:Pres. Trump USA Travels → Template:Pres. Trump USA Travels (2017) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Donald Trump made trips to USA in 2017, 2018, 2019 (and likely in 2020).
- . . .and in fact those other templates already exist, at Template:Pres. Trump USA Travels (2018), Template:Pres. Trump USA Travels (2019) So delete the one with no year. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:39, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- There is a category for Template disambiguation pages, though it's small. --BDD (talk) 16:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. With no substantive links to this page, a disambiguation page isn't needed in this instance. --Bsherr (talk) 23:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Templates are the best way to make for easy editing to a great visual of where President Trump has visited. I created these templates and can tell you there is no better way. Deleting them would be a complete travesty. --User:Polly7423 (User talk:Polly7423) 1 February 1 2019 —Preceding undated comment added 01:55, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- We are only proposing to delete the redirect with no year specified, NOT the specific ones (and thanks for creating them). UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. --223.197.139.47 (talk) 06:47, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Template disambiguation pages are for when editors are likely to use a template name by accident (e.g. {{expand}}) because they don't remember that other templates might use the same name. Not the case here. If you want to create a group for all of Trump's presidential travels, create a category. Nyttend (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per UnitedStatesian. Steel1943 (talk) 19:39, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:CharacterInfoBox
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- Template:CharacterInfoBox → Template:Infobox character (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This redirect is unused and should not be supported. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Consistency between infoboxes requires that the infobox be in the style of Template:Infobox some subject
, additionally, en.wiki has moved away from the CamelCase style. This redirects fails both of these points. Gonnym (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:LO
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- Wikipedia:LO → Category:Articles needing cleanup (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete LO was short for leftovers, but I doubt anyone remembers that, or would need this cross-namespace redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:10, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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List of the largest waste management companies of the United States
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- List of the largest waste management companies of the United States → Category:Waste companies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- List of the largest Waste management companies of the United States → Category:Waste companies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target is not a list of waste management companies of the U.S., it is a category containing some waste companies (potentially worldwide). I suggest delete since this doesn't meet the high bar for list redirects to category space. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:21, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- This is a consequence of List of waste management companies being redirected to the same category over 8 years ago. It was a bad list but I don't think that was the best idea. —Xezbeth (talk) 09:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete unneeded cross-namespace redirects. UnitedStatesian (talk) 10:46, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. List of waste management companies#United States is a better option than the status quo, but the section doesn't make any reference to the size of these companies. -- Tavix (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Keep. Since the list title is redirected there, I don't see the benefit of deleting the largest companies only. Neither one seems like a good redirect, but getting rid of only one isn't that helpful. I'd rather see this closed as "keep" and then renominated in a joint discussion with List of waste management companies; I could support that. Nyttend (talk) 21:23, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Nyttend: List of waste management companies is not currently a redirect, it has become a list article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:45, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. Retarget to List of waste management companies#United States, as no American companies except the largest will get enough coverage to have articles in the first place. Nyttend (talk) 15:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Nyttend: List of waste management companies is not currently a redirect, it has become a list article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:45, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Parturient
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 11#Parturient
Heart pain
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 12#Heart pain
Mind-ray
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Old redirect to Parapsychology but there is no evidence that this term is ever used in this context. Certainly not mentioned in the article and searches don't find it Velella Velella Talk 01:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- delete as obscure synonym/term. What I got from ""mind-ray" -mindray" google search is the song Gregoria in my "mind - Ray" Charles. --Lenticel (talk) 00:57, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
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1999-94 Burnley F.C. season
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- 1999-94 Burnley F.C. season → 1993–94 Burnley F.C. season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 1999–94 Burnley F.C. season → 1993–94 Burnley F.C. season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete Obvious error. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible search term. Talk: Contribs) 04:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete per ]
- Note If you delete that redirect without also deleting 1999–94 Burnley F.C. season, AnomieBOT will just recreate it. Anomie⚔ 05:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- On that note, I've added 1999–94 Burnley F.C. season to the nomination. Steel1943 (talk) 06:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 14:39, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - clear error. GiantSnowman 14:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as error/unlikely synonym --Lenticel (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as uncontroversial housekeeping, clearly an error -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:33, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- delete obviously Hhkohh (talk) 05:43, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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Westminster paedophile ring
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 15#Westminster paedophile ring
2010- Fed Cup Europe/Africa Zone Group 1 - Pool C
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- 2010- Fed Cup Europe/Africa Zone Group 1 - Pool C → 2010 Fed Cup Europe/Africa Zone Group I – Pool C (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete It's a stray dash that makes this one an unlikely search term. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:23, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible search term. Talk: Contribs) 04:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
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2010--11 BCHL season
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- 2010--11 BCHL season → 2010–11 BCHL season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2010–-11 BCHL season → 2010–11 BCHL season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete The double dash makes this a very unlikely search term. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible search term. Talk: Contribs) 04:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Note If you delete that redirect without also deleting 2010–-11 BCHL season, AnomieBOT will just recreate it. Anomie⚔ 05:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Added to nomination. UnitedStatesian (talk) 10:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as unlikely search argument. Actually, it's two hyphens in the first case, and an endash + a hyphen in the second case. HandsomeFella (talk) 10:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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2005-04-07
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- 2005-04-07 → 2005#April (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete Redirects from days created at random are
Delete Makes no logical sense. Just entering the year gets to the right place far quicker. Velella Velella Talk 01:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete only these ones, i.e. this can't be precedent for deleting any other redirects without discussion. No point in keeping these, and no point in keeping most other individual days, but useful exceptions exist (e.g. 2001-09-11), so we can't go deleting such redirects without bringing them here first. Nyttend (talk) 18:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)]
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Shut your eyes and think of England
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 9#Shut your eyes and think of England