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I propose a template, similiar to a warning, which could be used in a vandal´s talk page in which the user states that he/she will be watching the vandal and monitoring his/her edits in case vandalism is done again. The vandal could end up not vandalizing anymore since he would find out that all his vandalism wouldbe easilly removed.

The template could be something like this:

Code: [[Image:Mona Lisa detail eyes.jpg|thumb|150px|I will have an eye on ''you'' '''and''' will revert/undo any future vandalistic edits from your part. ~~~~]]

Or maby something like this:

I will have an eye on you and will revert/undo any future vandalistic edits from your part.

Code: {{Userbox |border-c = #000 |border-s = 1 |id-c = brown |id-s = 20 |id-fc = Black |info-c = yellow |info-s = 8 |info-fc = black |id = [[Image:Mona Lisa detail eyes.jpg|45px]] |info = I will have an eye on you and will revert/undo any future vandalistic edits from your part.}}

--TomasBat (Talk) 20:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I think the

warn templates cover this well enough. The threat is overly hostile, in my opinion. EVula // talk // ☯

// 21:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

This seems a little hostile. It makes me think of

WP:NPA. Mike Dillon

21:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be used only after the vandal has been warned several times but continues vandalizing Wikipedia, before he/she is blocked, giving the vandal something like another chance to change his ways... --TomasBat (Talk) 21:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

There's no reason to actually tell them you're watching them; just keep an eye out. Being so confrontational creates a hostile editing environment. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please don't do this. This reminds me of that "This user does not care that they are vandalizing the hard work of others" template someone decided to use in place of a warning. -Amark moo! 00:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you do not tell them that you are watching them, then it will be more probable that they will vandalize, since most vandals haven´t got a clue that a bunch of users are monitoring recent changes; but, if you do tell them that you are watching them, then it will be most probable that the vandal will not do more vandalistic edits, since he/she will take into account that his/her edit will easilly be reverted since someone is watching every move.

--TomasBat (Talk) 01:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Better than fixing a broken thing is to never have broken it. --TomasBat (Talk) 01:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Better than doing something that is wrong and then correcting it is to never have done something wrong. --TomasBat (Talk) 01:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I don't deny that it will stop vandalism more effectively. My issue is that it's uncivil, and besides, it won't ever have reason to be used. If someone's gotten to the point where it's obvious that they are a vandal and will not stop, even after being blocked a few times, they should be blocked indefinitely, not given a template saying that they'll be watched. And before that point, it's

WP:BITEing to tell them that their edits are going to be watched. -Amark moo!

01:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you look at it that way, then it seems more biting to block the vandal completely from editing Wikipedia than to let him edit a bit more under certain limits/restrictions... Also, by using this template, we are giving the vandal one more chance to change his ways; it may seem obvious that a vandal will not stop under any circumstances, but... -who knows?-, maby after finding out that they are being watched, then the vandal might auctually stop vandalising! We should let the vandal know about how unprobable it will be that his/her vandalistic edits will last, and maby with this knowledge, the vandal will stop! --TomasBat (Talk) 02:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

How about this less hostile template?

I will have an eye on you and will revert/undo any future vandalistic edits from your part; but if you were to make constructive edits in the proximate future, then my gaze would depart from you and I would leave you a smile...

--TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 14:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The fact that they are getting warns and blocks is the evidence in and of itself that they are being watched; if they weren't, they wouldn't be getting warned and blocked. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, we can make things even clearer for them... There is nothing wrong with that... What have we got to lose?... TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 16:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Nothing to lose, per se, but why should we even have policies such as Wikipedia:Civility if we're just going to ignore them whenever we feel like it? EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Important Points:

• Could you please tell me exactly how this template ignores the policy Wikipedia:Civility?

• Wikipedia:Civility says that it is a policy that all users should follow, not have to follow... I don´t mean that we have to completely ignore it I mean that there are always exceptions... (Please notify me if there is something about the fact that it is obligatory to follow this policy that I did not note and, if so, please forgive me for my ignorance)

• Are policies rules or suggestions?

• It seems to me as you are ignoring the Wikipedia: Civility policy by employing this as an edit summary: [1]

Judgmental tone in edit summaries ("fixed sloppy spelling", "snipped rambling crap")

(Note: If I were to be wrong, please notify me and please forgive me for my ignorance.)

--TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 17:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I won't respond to each point (since I think Gracenotes does a much better job of addressing this further down), but using the word "shit" in and of itself is not a breach of civility. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Aside from the fact that I'm not convinced this is a good idea, the userbox-like choice of formatting would cause layout problems on user talk pages. If you want to make a template like this, consider using a full-width layout like {{

repeatvandal}}. —Dgies^t c

16:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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How about this:

I will have an eye on you and will revert/undo any future vandalistic edits from your part; but if you were to make constructive edits in the proximate future, then my gaze would depart from you and I would leave you a smile...

--TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 16:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Changing the format doesn't change the fact that it is unnecessarily combative and a potential violation of

WP:CIVIL. There's an equally likely chance that a user who has this placed on their talk page will go "oh yeah? well fuck you" and start vandalizing more. EVula // talk // ☯

// 16:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, I think that the vandal would respond in the same way to a standard warning... --TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 17:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The wording of

policies and guidelines

indicates that policies are

only more official and less likely to have exceptions

than guidelines. Guidelines are less strong than policies (for example,

uw-v4

}} is because of violations of (hopefully) previously explained policies and guidelines

TomasBat, the idea is very witty (about the shifty Mona Lisa eyes), but editors that receive it may become afraid of editing. Unequivocally watching another editor, even to see that he/she is making good edits, is intimidating -- I know that I don't like working at a computer if I'm being watched over my shoulder, regardless of what I'm doing). This may result in increased wikistress (usually symptotic of

incivility

; see the first paragraph of the policy); for a new editor, a hint of wikistress may cause freaking out via vandalism (along the lines of "fuck this project, I don't need this").

This problem of stress from a latent enemy (namely, the person that places the template), could be fixed by saying "your edits will be reverted", but then the first-person voice that is essential to the Mona Lisa analogy collapses like a house of cards (to whom do the eyes belong?), and it might as well be a standard unpersonal warning message.

Gracenotes^T

§ 21:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• Could you please tell me exactly how this template ignores the policy Wikipedia:Civility?

--TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 22:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't make the incivility assertion, but I will try to explain it. If I'm wrong about it, perhaps EVula (talk · contribs) could clarify. As a side note, it may just be me, but I did not notice where {{uw-vandalism1}} makes any claim about a Wikipedian's reaction to future edits.

This Mona Lisa template, in my humble opinion, creates a "you-versus-me" mentality that is a part of incivility. If you require a quote from the policy, I would suggest

It is during these exchanges that community members may become uninterested in improving articles and instead focus on "triumphing" over the "enemy".

Once again, I think that this is witty, but perhaps not appropriate in use. Happy editing.

{{tl|uw-vandalism1}} makes a claim about a wikipedian´s reaction to future edits because it notifies the vandal-user that his vandalistic edits have been removed, henceforth telling the vandal, in an indirect way, how wikipedian´s will react to his/her future vandalistic edits. --TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 22:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• Could you please tell me exactly how this template ignores the policy Wikipedia:Civility? --TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 22:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I hope that the direct quote sufficed. The confrontational, personal tone may go against the spirit of the policy. I merely believe that the template sets up a less-than-ideal view of constructive Wikipedia editing.

Gracenotes^T

§ 23:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Aside... since there seems to be talk here

This is just a heads up about changes proposed regarding template deletion (speedy) processes and procedures. See

WP:Wh is food for thought. Regards // FrankB

15:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I support to adopt this template and I think there's nothing that makes it violate Wikipedia:Civility. However, I suggest that we shouldn't abuse it too much, just use for tenaciously persistent vandalisers (for example, we can use it as the third or last warning etc.) Also, I'm most impressed by the Mona Lisa scheme and it'll be a pity if this creative idea is ignored. Maybe you should dilute the seriousness in the expression, TomasBat. Causesobad --> (Talk) 14:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by dilute the seriousness in the expression? --TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 14:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if my words are so incomprehensible. I mean that, your warning seems a little too serious and it can make the users feel uncomfortable as if they are being observed at every turn. If you can reduce the seriousness, I think it'll be better. Causesobad --> (Talk) 14:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

To exemplify my idea, let's take a look at a very-lovely-creative block warning made by admin Phaedriel:

Dear Requested templates/Archive 5, unfortunately, your latest contributions constitute vandalism of Wikipedia, and it is with regret that you have been blocked from editing. Now, if you're willing to review your attitude, please post a message at your talk page, and I'll be most happy to help you reconsider your editing behavior, and the beauties of becoming a steady contributor. I'll keep my eyes on your talk page, I promise. Have a nice day! :)

With the same content of blocking but with this template, the user will feel less unpleasing and maybe have intention of coming back to contribute to Wiki. It's only my suggestion and I hope you'll renew your template because I do like the Mona Lisa idea. Causesobad --> (Talk) 15:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

How about this renewed template:

Dear Requested templates/Archive 5, unfortunately, your latest contributions constitute vandalism of Wikipedia, so I have no choice but to keep my eyes on you in case more vandalistic edits come from your part, so I can revert/undo them to ensure that they cause no harm; but I promise that if you make constructive edits in the future, they will most likely not be reverted and you will have my grace, the grace of all and my smile...

Also, once the user makes a constructive edit, we could award him/her with this barnstar/medal:

		The Constructive Edit(s) Medal
		Due to your recent constructive edit(s), I award you, with a smile, this medal and highly encourage you to keep up the good work and leave forever the stage of vandalism.

--TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 18:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I remain utterly unconvinced at why you need to tell a user you're watching them. Having had a harassing editor tell me specifically that they were watching my edits, I just can't support any template that says as much.

Here's a concept: just watch their edits and don't tell them. They'll figure it out when you slap them with another warning after they vandalize some more. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think that warning them of the consequences and giving them another extra chance, by telling them we are watching their vandalism, is better and seems less hostile than slapping them with a warning once they vandalize some more... Anyways, with the second medal/barnstar template, we are awarding the vandal and encouraging him to leave vandalism and make constructive edits, since the user finds out that when he/she vandalizes, nothing is won and his/her edits are reverted, but when he/she makes constructive edits, an award is recieved... --TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 20:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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How about some sort of resolution: A number of people seem to think these are a bad idea, so don't make them in the main template space. Create whatever you want in your user space and use them responsibly. People who don't like them can just

Sounds good to me... --TomasBat (Talk)(Sign) 21:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Use the template when it's specifically appropriate, and perhaps don't give out the barnstar (give out a real barnstar that commends without mentioning vandalism, or actually write a personal message.) Unless anything comes up, Dgies' resolution sounds fine, even though I still don't like this template that much. [exeunt]

There should be a more templates made for baseball managers. If you look at Joe Torre's page, you will see that he has a template for being a current manager, one for the Mets, but not one for any other team he has managed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.39.240 (talk)

That is not a request for the creation of a template. It is a request for people to add more succession box templates to various articles. If you know what articles you want updated, and what succession boxes you need added, you can probably just add them to the articles yourself. If you are not confident enough to do that, say exactly what additions you want here, like "Joe Blow was the pitching coach of Yankees from 1940-1942, he was proceeded by John Doe and succeeded by Bob Smith". —Dgies^t c 23:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking for a template which can be used to produce a message for an article where its size has grown too large - probably as part of the cleanup category templates. Stolen from Wikipedia:Article size, the following code:

<div id="longpagewarning" style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:#aaaaaa;padding:3px"> '''Note:''' This page is XXX kilobytes long. It may be appropriate to split this article into smaller, more specific articles. See [[Wikipedia:Article size]]. </div>

....produces this:

Which seems fine. I couldn't find any template similar to this, though. So, my questions, if you please:

1. Does anyone know of an already existing template similar to this?
2. If not, I'll create the template myself (would prefer to, as a way of learning), but am unsure of what can be used as a variable for the article size, which can normally (only?) be found when searching for the article in question

Any help would be appreciated. —Xhantar^Talk 10:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

There are {{

Verylong-section}}. PrimeHunter

13:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

• Article size is not available as a magic word or built-in variable so there is no way to do this automatically. —Dgies^t c 19:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies. Any one of the templates mentioned by

Wikipedia:Template_messages/Cleanup. —Xhantar^Talk

19:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I have been trying to create the Template:32TeamBracket-Compact-Tennis3, but I'm doing something wrong in the final round. Here is the result. Could anybody help me? Thank you. MontanNito 14:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I think I fixed it for you. You had a bad colspan value and needed the connector bars added.—Dgies^t c 17:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Perfect, thank you very much :-) MontanNito 18:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

There is a citation template for album notes {{

{{cite DVD-notes |title= |titleyear= |titlelink= |director= |format= |location= |year= |distributor= |distributorid= }}

• Title: Title of the movie on the DVD (no Wikilink)
• Titleyear: Year the movie was made (no Wikilink)
• Titlelink: A Wikipedia link to the article about the film, if applicable (no Wikilink)
• Director: Director of the movie (Wikilink if possible)
• Format: Where or how the notes are represented, i.e. booklet, inset, back cover, front cover, liner, etc.
• Location: The location of the DVD distributor to the smallest geographical unit possible (Wikilink if possible)
• Year: The year the DVD was distributed/released (no Wikilink)
• Distributor: The distributor of the DVD (i.e.
  Shriek Show, VIPCO (Video Instant Picture Company), MGM Home Entertainment
  , etc.) (Wikilink if possible)
• Distributorid: The catalog number of the DVD from the distributor

— Helltopay27 18:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

• Seems like a reasonable idea. Maybe I'll work on it tonight. Harass me if you don't see anything back here in 24 hours. —Dgies^t c 22:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

• OK, created {{
  Cite DVD-notes}}. Leave me a message if you have any problems. —Dgies^t c
  22:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

• You need to provide more information. What should the template do? —Dgies^t c 18:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm missing a template that already exists but I really need a template that says something along the lines of: "Most or all of the references or citations in this article are inadequate as

• Offhand I could suggest
  Template:Citecheck or Template:Unverifiable-external-links. None of these are exactly perfect. I'm not sure its worth making a specific template for the case where there are many citations but none of good quality. I would pick whichever of these looks best and leave a message on the talk page. If there is no response after a while, strike external links you feel are worthless as a source and then tag as lacking references. —Dgies^t c
  21:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Loop 101 Dead! 14:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

This may already be covered by {{

Gracenotes^T

§ 18:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Note: requester has been indefblocked as a sockpuppet of User:Sklocke —Dgies^t c 19:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd really appreciate a Carpenters singles/discography/TV Specials template. Could somebody make it resemble the Beatles template?

{{

For questions about the Carpenters' singles/TV Specials/discography, you can visit my talk page. Cuyler91093 18:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it might make sense for a Carpenters discography template, but there are some caveats:

1. The TV specials do not have articles, so it makes no sense to include them
2. A lot of the singles do not have articles, so we should only include the ones that are notable.
3. What should be done for singles which are just covers by The Carpenters? It seems misleading to include them.

Your thoughts? —Dgies^t c 18:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello Dgies. I tried making a template. It doesn't look good (there are a lot of missing links), but you can see it

Navigation templates like these are used to help users find related articles. Having redlinks in them is a bad idea unless you are sure the subject really deserves an article. I think it would be best if you had only two sections in the template: One for their albums, and the other for singles which have a separate page for that single (not just covers). —Dgies^t c 19:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

• Okay. Perhaps you could help me?
  • What exactly are you having trouble with? It looks like you know what you're doing. —Dgies^t c 03:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm wondering if a template should be made for articles which are so complex/technical that they really require "translation" for even a reasonably well-educated individual to read. Something like

The level of technical information presented in this article may render it incomprehensible
to the lay reader.  Please consider rewriting it or adding a section suitable for a 
less-than-expert reader.

I glanced at Hilbert space and realized that even though I'm fairly well-read and no dolt by any means, I had not the foggiest idea what it means.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 23:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe you are looking for {{Technical (expert)}}. —Dgies^t c 23:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Fantabulendositous. Thank you. There are so many templates that it's hard for a relative newcomer to know them all.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 14:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I looked at Hilbert space too. It's in Category:Linear algebra. I didn't understand it, but I bet that's because I don't know anything about linear algebra. Because Wikipedia is hypertext, in my opinion it's ok to have articles too hard for nontechnical readers to understand. :-) --unforgettableid | how's my driving? 18:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

	This article is within the scope of the Iwerks WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.

--TomasBat (@)(Sign) 23:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I see, so what exactly are you requesting? —dgies^t_c 20:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I am requesting a banner from wikiproject Iwerks, like the rest of the wikiporjects have got... --TomasBat (@)(Sign) 00:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Didn't you just make one above? What's left to request? Do you need help starting a new page? —dgies^t_c 02:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

• Whoa. I just noticed you are using a fair use image in the template for purely decorative reasons. That is a big no-no. Is there some free image you could use? —dgies^t_c 08:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

How about this. I changed the image to a home-made one which a created in 2 minuites; it isn´y very good, but it will fit until a better one is found, if a better one is found, of course.

	This article is within the scope of the Iwerks WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.

--TomasBat (@)(Sign) 21:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, looks good. Now you have all the markup for a WikiProject banner template. You still haven't said what you need help doing. —dgies^t_c 21:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to see in what I could improve it... Such as the fair-use image. Now how do I create it? --TomasBat (@)(Sign) 02:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC) To create a template - all you need to do is go to an address that starts with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:
So for example - you could copy that code you did, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Iwerks_Banner - paste it, and your done! (You would call the template by writing {{

Is there a template to put either on top of an article or section or at the end of a sentence that asks for clarification of words like "recently" or "soon"? If there isn't, I'd be happy to make it. I'd just need to know which is preferred: a general top-of-page one, a specific sentence one, or both. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, your only options at present are either {{cleanup}} or {{update after}}. You could also replace those statements with "As of <date statement was added>". —dgies^t_c 20:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding "As of <date statement was added>" would work, but only in recent additions, otherwise this could mean looking through quite a few revisions. Someone on the help desk suggested Template:Recentism but even that doesn't quite cover it. Unless someone objects, I'll make both templates (A general top-of-page one and a specific end-of-sentence one). Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see the Synopsis section of

Try {{

Sectionrewrite}}. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review!

20:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

This is how the "Reviews" option looks on the template in the edit pane for AC/DC's Back in Black:

| Reviews = * [[All Music Guide]] {{rating-5|5}} [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wzaxqjkboj6a link]

Now, let's say we added this to the template for the film infobox. The box for the movie Halloween would look like this:

| Reviews = * [[Roger Ebert]] {{rating-4|4}} [http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19791031/REVIEWS/40823003/1023 link]

I'll only request it if someone responds, because I'm not sure if this has been answered/covered already. Leaving it like a question for now makes me look like less of a dumbass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helltopay27 (talk • contribs)

• This is a fully-protected template, so to edit it you would need to get consensus and help from an admin. There has been some previous discussion
  WP:RPP. —dgies^t_c
  22:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

 Not done - rejected by the WikiProject as unnecessary.

talk

] 05:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you point me to the thread? —dgiest_c 05:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• I didn't see any concensus on professional reviews, and have relayed your proposal to
  Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films. —dgies^t_c
  06:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Bow Wow Peecee1978 04:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Was that a request or a random comment? If it was a request, we need more detail. —dgies^t_c 05:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Because there are quite a few articles related to Kappa Mikey, someone should make a template for Kappa Mikey now. It should include the following:

• The article for Kappa Mikey
• Settings of the sshow, including LilyMu Towers
• These articles:
  • List of Kappa Mikey episodes
  • List of Kappa Mikey characters
    • The articles for the characters themselves (if there are any)
• And other articles that have to do with the show

I would do it, but I don't know how to. --Noone 05:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• OK, created {{Kappa Mikey}}. —dgies^t_c 21:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi all,

Sorry for off-topic: this is not a template request, but a question. Many tourist attractions, subway lines, etc. have a location and/or hours of operation posted on their Wikipedia articles. Do you think it'd be useful to have nice templates for this information so that this important info will be close to the top of every article and stand out? It could look like this:

Ontario Science Centre

• Location: 770 Don Mills Rd. at Eglinton Ave. E. (map)
• Hours: Open daily 10-5; closed Dec. 25. Hours may vary; phone ahead.
  Info is current as of March 2007.

And for businesses and tourist attractions, you could add extra info:

• Admission:
  CDN$
  8. Theatre and special exhibits extra.
• Parking:
  CDN$
  8
• Phone: +1 (416) 696-3127

Yes, this information is very commercial, but it's useful, and being useful is what an encyclopedia is all about.

So, do you think this should be a template? Or do you think it's better just to put all this info in text form in some paragraph of the article?

Cheers, --unforgettableid | how's my driving? 18:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that while this is obviously useful information, you may run afoul of

WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. —dgies^t_c

19:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Right. Don't add business hours, street addresses, or phone numbers. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, fine, I can see why phone numbers shouldn't be there (not only hard to verify, but also increased risk of exploiting Wikipedia for commercial use and/or pranks.) But does

WP:NOT#DIRECTORY really mean that useful info such as hours and street addresses can't go on the articles of already-notable tourist attractions? If so, do you think it is likely I could get the rules changed? Cheers, --unforgettableid | how's my driving?

06:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Food energy per 100 g: Food energy in kJ (food energy in kcal in parentheses)
• Melting point: Melting point temperature (at sea level) in °C (in °F in parentheses)
• Boiling point: Boiling point temperature (at sea level) in °C (in °F in parentheses)
• Smoke point: Smoke point temperature (at sea level) in °C (in °F in parentheses)
• Solidity at 20 °C: solid or liquid
  • Solid fat index at 20 °C: SFI at 20 °C.
• Specific gravity
  at 20 °C: Specific gravity at 20 °C
• Refractive index: Refractive index
• Iodine value: Iodine value
• Acid value: Acid value
• Acid degree value: Acid degree value
• pH: pH value
• Saponification value: Saponification value
• Unsaponifiable
  : Percentage of unsaponifiable matter
• Reichert value: Reichert value
• Polenske value: Polenske value
• Kirschner value: Kirschner value
• Shortening value
  : Shortening value
• Peroxide value: Peroxide value

References: If more than once source, please list in "ref" format.

Thanks in advance to whomever makes this template. Peter G Werner 19:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

So what you're proposing is a new infobox type for use in articles about different types of oils, correct? For example, can you show me a couple articles you plan on adding this to? The reason I ask is that what I saw from a brief browsing is that most of these fields will be unused because there is no data for them on any particular oil. —dgies^t_c 19:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

An infobox, correct. Some articles:

Grapeseed oil, Corn oil, and others like this. And "no data on them"? These data are likely present in published, citable sources for most edible oils. Just because such data are not present in Wikipedia right now is no reason not to include these fields. Peter G Werner

20:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, you convinced me. Maybe I'll work on it a bit later. —dgies^t_c 20:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks in advance! I've added one thing – since its going to be an infobox (good suggestion) a place at the beginning for an optional image would be a good idea. – Peter G Werner 23:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I have started work at

Template:Infobox oils. —dgies^t_c

03:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, should be done. Take a look. —dgies^t_c 08:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Episode list doesn't work on large pages, see discussion, and for example the bottom of this page. Maybe someone can locate the problem. If it is caused by a Wikimedia bug, it would be good to have some simpler template that reproduces the bug. -- memset 21:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I have investigated this. Please see my post at the village pump [2]. —dgies^t_c 22:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

A template for Barry Manilow is needed similar to the one for Paul McCartney

that shows studio albums, soundtracks, compilations or greatest hits albums, other related albums, singles.67.98.154.56 19:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'm not a fan, but this is a repeat request so I created Template:Barry Manilow. —dgies^t_c 20:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Dgies, thank you for making the template! It is just what the article needs. Great job on it! 67.98.154.56 12:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Since there are a number of rare animals that free pictures would be extremely hard to procure for, I think a template for rare animals is called for. I'd like some ideas on the wording of such a template, though. bibliomaniac15 02:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It might be better to discuss this at

Wikipedia talk:Fair use. Mike Dillon

02:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I am requesting a template for all articles about International Embassies with information like the ambassador, the location, the representative country, a place for the respective flag, etc... Thank you Rory for suomi 08:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

There already is one, use {{

Infobox Diplomatic Mission}} —dgies^t_c

08:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I have not been able to find a Google search template; specifically, I'd like a template that I could use as a shortcut to a Google search. For example, I'd type {{Google|Teawood Fighters}} and it would produce a Google search for Teawood Fighters. If one like this already exists, please forgive my shortsightedness. V-Man - ^T/_C 04:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

What exactly would you need this for? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 04:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, the problem is with spaces. Google searches replace a space with a +, but a space in an external link ends the URL. For example [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow Fever Yellow fever on Wikipedia] returns Fever Yellow fever on Wikipedia, not what you would want, Yellow fever on Wikipedia. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

This would be used in the Reference desks, and possibly on article talk pages, to help generate

sources from the internet more quickly. I have to shrug at the "space" problem; is there a way that you could get the template to just translate a space as a "+" as a text bit for the URL? V-Man - ^T/_C

01:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What about something like: [http://www.google.com/search?q={{{1}}}{{#if:{{{2}}}|+{{{2}}}}}{{#if:{{{3}}}|+{{{3}}}}}{{#if:{{{4}}}|+{{{4}}}}}{{#if:{{{5}}}|+{{{5}}}}}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Google search of {{{1}}}{{#if:{{{2}}}| {{{2}}}}}{{#if:{{{3}}}| {{{3}}}}}{{#if:{{{4}}}| {{{4}}}}}{{#if:{{{5}}}| {{{5}}}}} ? It isn't a great solution, but without StringFunctions, we can't do anything really fancy. Nihiltres 20:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

The space thing can be dealt with using the built-in {{urlencode:}} parser hook. That is, something like this:

[http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF8&q={{urlencode:{{{1}}}}} {{{2|a Google search for ''{{{1}}}''}}}]

If this template is made, it should probably have documentation that discourages its use in articles themselves. Mike Dillon 20:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

FYI, this template already exists as {{Google}}. Mike Dillon 20:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay!!!!!1eleven11 I couldn't find that for the life of me, thanks for showing me the way. V-Man - ^T/_C 04:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you make a te,plate for His Dark Materials Characters, ie: Name: Age: Dæmon: First Appearance: Eye Color: Hair Color: Affiliation: 89.243.35.49 18:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Were there that many characters in the series? Also, perhaps there's a general book character template that would suit your needs in the template namespace? (I don't know, but it's possible there's one. Try a template namespace search.) Cheers, --unforgettableid | how's my driving? 06:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I've been doing a lot of work relating to and thinking about articles which are about settlements (towns, cities, villages, etc.) I've noted that there is a wide variety in the way existing articles have been made and have wondered if it might not be useful to produce a Places Template which would provide a person creating a new article with a skeleton on which the new article would build.

The template I have in mind would include a suggested concept of an introductory part and several suggested sections such as History, Location and Climate, Commerce and Industry, Culture and Recreation, Local Government, Notable Characeristics, etc. A places Infobox could be included with the template.

Using a template of this sort, the new article creator would simply "fill in the blanks" with whatever information was available and leave the empty headings for other editors to add to in the future.

I'm willing to spend some time on this myself, but before starting I was wondering what others thought about this and possibly get a few additional thoughts from persons who have created other templates. --JAXHERE | ^Talk 16:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What you're asking for is probably handled better as a "preload" where a new page can be started using text from an existing page. One example is found at the top of this very page where we have: Click here to create a new request. If you want to introduce preloads for geography articles, it would probably be better to discuss it over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography. If they like your idea and you need technical assistance, feel free to ask again here. —dgies^t_c 17:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I am just curious if there already is a user template for mechanical engineers. There seem to be others for chemical engineers and others. There is a mechanical engineer category, but it for some reason is not a subcategory of [[Category:Wikipedian engineers]]. if not, it seems that there should be one. I hope I am posting this on the proper page. Polypmaster 18:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

 Done See {{user mechanical engineer}} Also, the mechanical engineer category is a subcat of Category:Wikipedian engineers but you have to move to the next page of listings to see it. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Not any more. I fixed the subcategories' sort keys so they all show up on the first page. —dgies^t_c 01:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I just added this userbox to my page. IMHO it would look better and be more consistent with other disciplines if you change "mechanical engineer" to "Mechanical Engineer".CheMechanical 04:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm requesting an infobox template for

OK, made

Apolo Anton Ohno. How does it seem? If you like it, I will trust you to add it to the other articles as needed. —dgies^t_c

05:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it looks awesome. Thank you for your hard work. Cheers, oncamera^(t) 15:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Here requesting an userbox template for

:Actually I'll leave them here to save people the work of looking for them. -

It has been done. -