Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics/Archive 27
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Expert review: Neem ka Ped
As part of the
- See my comments. talk • contribs) 21:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Floods
Hey, I created an article on the 2007 South Asian floods since I felt that the displacement of twenty million people shouldn't go unnoticed. The article is rather brief, however, and I hope that some of you may be able to contribute with some local sources. Teemu08 01:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- Should we add a section to the above about a dispute as to whether the talk • contribs) 19:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Free ODNB access
FYI:
New for August: independence for India and Pakistan
- Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 09:56, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
WP India Banner
Possible banner to advertise this project. Is it OK??
- Hmm. Why do you want to add the india flag there?. Where do you want to add this image?. --SkyWalker 19:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good question. There already is the Template:WP India for article talk pages. Are you thinking of adding this to the Template:Wikipedia ads? John Carter19:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes talk • contribs) 18:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'd shrink the flag a little, so it doesn't overflow the template, but otherwise I don't see any problems. John Carter 16:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes
- Good question. There already is the
Hindi project
In spite of being, at least, an important language of India, the "Hindi" article is not featured. There are several issues- the treatment of diverse dialects ranging from Bihar to Rajasthan currently counted under "Hindi" and secondly the issue of common pieces of text written in 'Hindi','Urdu' and 'Hindustani' articles. Since Hindustani is the basic language for Hindi and Urdu, it is obvious. Extensive work needs to be done for a thorough improvement, and not only articles but also lists and boxes need to be created, requiring a dedicated project. Maquahuitl 14:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
In conducting a gradual overhaul of the central MOS and some of its daughter articles, the absence of a submanual for India-related articles appears to be a glaring deficiency. There are currently such submanuals for:
- Arabic transliteration
- China-related articles
- Ethiopia-related articles
- Ireland-related articles
- Islam-related articles
- Japan-related articles
- Korea-related articles
- Portugal-related articles
One user, User:Arwel_Parry, raised at MOSNUM the issue of Indian units of measurement—crores and lakhs—which brought this general deficiency to our attention.
Surely such a resource needs to be developed ... Tony 14:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- There is a ) 02:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- May I encourage people here to expand what is barely a stub. I'm ignorant of matters Indian, but I know that there is a lot to say about (1) naming, (2) Indian English, (3) conventions of weights and measures, numbers and dates, and (4) much more. I'm keen that this be done. Take a look at some of the other Manuals of style for country-related articles. Links are at MOS. Tony 11:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
So far as I remember, there was a huge discussion about what scripts can be used in biography pages. That needs to be part of any such MoS. --Ragib 05:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Since Indic (languages) are a significant part of the whole Indian-related world and the articles that describe it, it makes sense to extend the ambit of the currnet "Indic-related" manual to encompass all matters that need style guidance. Are there any volunteers for a team to get this going? Tony 06:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'll volunteer, though my input is going to be limited in extent. Imc 18:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- I want to volunteer as well. An Indic-related manual would be very helpful. talk • contribs) 19:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- I want to volunteer as well. An Indic-related manual would be very helpful.
I have started the page,
- use of comma or braces for disambiguation
- use of "d" or "D" while naming districts
- creating district articles with the word "district" included even if a town with the same name does not exist.
Please help expand the sections and add new sections as needed. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 03:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I can help a bit. Merging some of the articles may help. Amartyabag TALK2ME 06:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
According to me the
Naming of districts
Last time when the debate on the use of district in articles I was not much active at that time. It is understood that use of small d had won (7 votes) where use of capital D got 4 votes. I want to know what the formal decision was. As both of them have almost equal valid reasons and anti reasons, it got votes based on personal favouritism. I think lets have a poll once more with a community-wide attention:.(ie. Add it in the
Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazagham
The page has become a victim on member vs sockpuppet wars. As I am certain
National Poet of India?
I did not know if there is really any national poet of India.
- You did the correct thing - India does not have any national poet as such though sometimes people call some poets as national poets of India. --Bhadani (talk) 15:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Critical Attention all concerned associated with WP:IND
The article
- Inconsistant use of ciations in Lead, going with the trend it would be better not to have any citations in the lead.
- Many parts of the article are not ciationed properly, mainly Government, Politics, Foreign relations and the military, Geography, Culture
- Missing section- Transport, Media
- Elaborate-
- Climate- Temperature (create a seperate section) take data from Climate of India, it is a FA,
- geography-political geography, neighbouring countries, latitude, longitude, timezone, size
- Sports (better to create a seperate section)
- Link to sub articles, see also, adding of appropriate templates.
- The section 'Subdivisions' may be turned into prose. Name the largest state and district in terms of area/population.
This are my premilinary observations. Pls discuss the matter in Talk:India and improve the quality of the article. In short my main concerns are verifiability and compehensiveness. Amartyabag TALK2ME 13:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- You really need to post this on the Talk:India page. There is an active group of people there who pay attention to all issues related to the page. Creation of new sections etc. should all be discussed there. This has been the case since the time Nichalp and others first made it an Featured Article. I suggest that in order to be really helpful you read some of the posts in the archives on that page. Most of your suggestions (as they currently stand) have been made before and are not going to fly. I say this without malice. As for the citations, I agree there really shouldn't be any in the lead, but a few related to Kashmir etc. have to be added. Another was recently added after an editor insisted on proof. It could likely be removed once the drive-by editor has moved to other things. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- PS As for your mention of an FAR, I don't know if that is a threat or merely an effort to be condescending, but you are welcome to try. You'll likely be barking up the wrong tree. Better to go to Talk:India. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is just my suggestions and i have posted here to get a wider audience. Now I have posted it in Talk:India as well, due to connection problems i couldn't post it there at that time. actually i hit the submit button almost at the same time but by the time it get submited, the connection got disconnected. I am not threatning, but if someone else put it in FAR it would not be good and better to solve it ourselve, without an official procedure Amartyabag TALK2ME 15:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Slokas - to include or to not
A debate has been raging on Sritattvanidhi whether slokas should be included in the article. To resolve the issue and make it a MOS, i approach you on suggestion of a fellow editor.
Please give your suggestions on issues:
- Should slokas be included?
- if yes, should they be in Devanagari or an Indian script OR in English IAST OR both ?
- Should they be written in Devanagari or an Indian script OR in English IAST also, if the English translation is given.
- How many maximum slokas should be included?
- If any reference to the content of sloka is made(for e.g. if Maha Ganapati's characteristics are discussed in a particular verse of Sritattvanidhi), should the verse be quoted?
Please go through editors' comments on Sritattvanidhi talk page. Thank you.--Redtigerxyz 13:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Slokas may be incorporated in the newly proposed Wikipedia:Manual of Style (India-related articles) after a discussion. Amartyabag TALK2ME06:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- This isn't of complete irrelevance, but I feel this topic is more suited for 08:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- I approached WP:IN on the advice of a fellow editor as this NB has more editors who can contribute. I had started a discussion on WT:HN with hardly any response. I think the issue can be resolved here and be made a MOS--Redtigerxyz 13:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have commented on this issue here on WP:Hindu. In sum, I think a few slokas on a see also subpage, with original language and/or transliterations if possible for the short ones, as well as the English translations, are helpful, along with very brief context notes, e.g. "this sloka is based on (name of work, citation to verse, etc.)." -- Lisasmall | Talk15:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Article on Indian women needs assistance
Following a discussion at
Expert review: Kaka Nayaka
As part of the
Anyone know Telugu
Can anyone who knows Telugu please translate the table at the the Telugu version of the
Can someone do something about this ugly and ungainly navbox -
) 17:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)Hindilisahutya
Does anybody know if this article Hindilisahutya is notable and if so can someone translate it? ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 04:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Eyes needed on Kama Sutra
Can some knowledgeable editors take a look at this page ? There are a series of edits being made there which are disputed and possibly against prior consensus (see here) but are not being discussed. I tried to appeal on the talk page for editors to step back and discuss the edits there before implementing the changes, but User:Lara bran did not respond. I am not sure whether the changes themselves are desirable or not, but the nascent edit-warring and editing without trying to build a consensus is definitely disruptive. Abecedare 05:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- I second this appeal for other editors to take a look at this issue. Over the past several months the article was cleaned up from its prior state of being a highly sexualized article. If you examine the edit patterns for User:Lara bran (See edit analysis: [1]) I think you will find that her initial involvement with the Kama Sutra article was to add in details on sexual activities, and that the present edit war grew out of that. Lara has also been involved in some dubious edits related to Yoga pages that have been reverted by other established editors in the Hinduism and India projects. I have posted a list of substantive objections on the talk page for the article but she has not addressed any of them in a convincing way, and has ignored Abecedare's request to build consensus on the talk page for the article instead of just edit warring. Buddhipriya 06:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would prefer a non-Indian editor, for {{worldwideview}}, though indian editors are welcome. We should analyze it not from indian point of view. I requested in Wikipedia:Third opinion. Thanks. Lara_bran06:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would prefer a non-Indian editor, for {{
Help wanted on Indian view of Mother Teresa
Hi, We are discussing reworking some material over at
Rueben Iys's edits in India and other pages
- My point was to make the section more comprehensive and not give "great" prominence to Subhas Bose, which incidentally, you derive from the very fact that Bose was mentioned once in the whole edit I made, which suggests to me an altogether different issue that you have. You have almost accused me of having a Right wing and Saffronist PoV and have not given me time to address your concerns before you started reverting my edits. Also, I left a message on your talk page asking for collaboration to prevent the very edit warring that you talk about and have so far attempted to engage you in a discussion. I have explained my edits to you. I have not gone behind anyone's back and tried to round up a Subhas Bose, it seemed to me that you have a PoV issue because of the the articles you quoted, the tone of the articles you quoted, and the tone of your derivations from those articles, which I pretty sure I would've had too if I didn't read both sides of the story (and I have read both sides of the story quite extensively, but I am not claiming authority). I can only ask you to abandon those PoVs when editing or you're inevitably going to end up clashing with some editor or the other. I do not wish to edit war or clash with anyone and hope the concerns you have can be addressed, as well as you can address mine.Rueben lys00:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- My point was to make the section more comprehensive and not give "great" prominence to Subhas Bose, which incidentally, you derive from the very fact that Bose was mentioned once in the whole edit I made, which suggests to me an altogether different issue that you have. You have almost accused me of having a Right wing and Saffronist PoV and have not given me time to address your concerns before you started reverting my edits. Also, I left a message on your talk page asking for collaboration to prevent the very edit warring that you talk about and have so far attempted to engage you in a discussion. I have explained my edits to you. I have not gone behind anyone's back and tried to round up a
Vandalism Report
A bunch of IP addresses in the 59.93.x.x range have been repeatedly vandalizing the
Good Article review: Taj Mahal
One of this project's Good Articles,
I stumbled across the article, Varshney and cleaned it up a bit, but was wondering if someone more knowledgeable than me could have a quick look for glaring errors or omissions? Thanks! --kateshortforbob 11:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Bengaluru
Oh, and while I'm here, I suggest people have a look at the ongoing discussion on that talkpage about a unilateral page move. Hornplease 01:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is the sort of thing that a suitable section at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(India-related_articles) could help with. Imc15:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Neila Sathyalingam's name in Tamil script
Hi, I recently created an article about a Singaporean dancer, choreographer and teacher, Neila Sathyalingam. I'm wondering if an editor participating in this WikiProject can help by adding Neila Sathyalingam's name in Tamil script to the article. Thanks. Cheers, Jacklee 10:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Sundar, for helping with the above. Cheers, Jacklee 13:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Yogasana: Article name discussion
There is a discussion going on at Talk:Yogasana#Opinion_Poll_on_this_article.27s_name about the title of the article. An editor believes that the article should be located at "Asana", since in English language that word is commonly used for Yoga postures. Another editor suggests that the article should be located at "Yogasana", since "asana" has other meanings in Sanskrit ("posture"). Those knowledgeable about the topic might want to contribute to the discussion. utcursch | talk 09:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Deletion discussion
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of British Asian people (2nd nomination). Badagnani 02:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Subprojects for other states of India
In the event that there is any interest in such, there are now proposed projects for all the states of India which do not yet have projects on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals page. Personally, I think a lot of them probably may not have enough interested contributors to become active, but at least the degree of interest in such a project can now be seen. Please do not add your name as an interested party, however, unless you anticipate doing some regular work with the content that project would deal with. Thank you. John Carter 22:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- I propose one more subproject, one dealing with all Union territories of India. Maquahuitl 11:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Articles request
- Sind Sagar Doab - lies between the Indus and Jhelum Riverrivers.
- Jech Doab (also Chaj) Doab - between the Jhelum and the Chenab River.
- Rechna Doab - between the Chenab and the Ravi River.
- Delhi doab, Sutlej and Yamuna. deeptrivia (talk) 22:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- You should concurrently post in WP:PAK since the first three Doabs are now in Pakistan, and there's quite likely greater expertise there. Fowler&fowler«Talk»00:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Harugeri
Hello, I have a bit of a problem with an article about the town of Harugeri. I copyedited the article and explained on the talk page why in the process the article became shorter. However an IP user 20.132.68.133 has reverted the page to his pre-copyedit state. Could somebody from the India Project look at the different version, possibly I did shorten the article to much, I'm not sure. As a side note: I don't know much about India, I just copyedited the article with the content that was provided. 1redrun Talk 07:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yet again, the article has been reverted to the likings of the IP user. Without notice or anything... 1redrun Talk 08:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Searching for sources
How to Search for (1) "Latest" and (2) "Archived" ""NEWS & FEATURE ARTICLES" on "Schools / anything" from top newspapers and magazines, also as well how to search for relevant Blog Postings many of which contain local "Print News Articles" not available online - EXAMPLE Mayo College
As we all know in addition to referring to the main official website if we can research as many news and feature articles from top newspapers and magazines on each subject (article on wikipedia) and highlight top points in our own words or by "quoting" by properly referencing all such research, it improves the wikipedia article many folds and makes it much more credible along with providing many excellent independent unbiased reference links to readers.
- In the following "News Search pages" you could search by trying different keywords for the same subject, and also change the subject to any other you are currently working on. Please be beware many of the search results will not be relevant. Please also note at the bottom or in the left margin of each "search result page" you will see links to additional related "search and alert services" being offered by these companies (Yahoo, Google etc.), all for free. Also note current news searches for current times may come up blank if there has been no current news or feature article written in the last few months, look in Google News ARCHIVES in that case:
1) "Google News Search" for Mayo College: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22&btnG=Search
2) "Google ARCHIVES News Search", including news from last year and before, has further links in the left margin to break up archived news by year and by publication, for news on Mayo College: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22
3) "Google "Blog Postings" search for Mayo College: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=%22Mayo+College%22&ie=UTF8
4) "Yahoo News Search" for news on Mayo College: http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search;_ylt=A0WTTks7YtxGMgcB1xWy87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhNjRqazhxBHNlYwNzZWFyY2g-?fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8&p=%22Mayo+College%22
- In addition to above you can also make "As-It-Happens News Alerts" for articles that interest you and you will like to work on and want to keep abreast with. The news alert service provided by Google and Yahoo sends you latest news as it happens to your email inbox:
1) Set up Google News Alert at: http://www.google.com/alerts
2) Set up Yahoo News Alert at (for this you will have to sign in with your Yahoo Email ID first): http://alerts.yahoo.com/main.php?view=create_news_step1
I learnt about the above services in the last year while looking for news on
Hope this information will be useful to all, thanks
Atulsnischal 04:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- For example here is a 1921 news item from "Google News Archives (see link abve)" that Washington Post:
Atulsnischal 07:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- You may want to look at www.webcitation.org to archive permanent versions of articles that will be removed from free online public viewing after they've been available for a certain time period. --Hebisddave 14:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hornplease is systematically censoring articles about Hinduism and removing mention of atrocities committed by muslims against hindus
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Please read the definition of vandalism at WP:AGF. I suggest you do not do it again. Hornplease 18:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 19:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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The above section has been copied and spammed to multiple fora. The user has been previously made aware of
Hornplease is censoring articles about Hinduism and removing mention of atrocities committed by muslims against hindus.
Please track
He has put this tag on Destruction of Idol Temples and put up for deletion in 5 days time.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Atulsnischal (talk • contribs) 22:58, 29 Aug 2007
- As noted elsewhere, I give up. This chap's first logged-in edit was a year ago, but he's behaving like he signed in yesterday. Hornplease 05:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- He has been systematically deleting mass text from related wikipedia articles
and additionally he has continuously taken to stalking me
Reported user here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents
Thanks Atulsnischal 03:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I have moved the article to
- Bad move. Geological history of India is a subset of Geology of India. Please make sure they are two separate articles, with a summary of the history in Geology of India. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»=08:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Bhandardhara
Is
Bhaje caves
Another merge -
- Looking around, the word cave proper noun. I've been to these caves, and Bhaje seems to be the name I saw there. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could anyone have a look the
Indo-Aryan origin of Jats article renamed
I've renamed the above article to
www.thehoot.org
I noticed that the website www.thehoot.org is linked from several India related pages but google (http://www.stopbadware.org/ to be exact) marks it as malware. Anyone know, if this is a temporary problem, or if this website should be systematically removed from wikipedia ? Abecedare 23:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- That database is user-reported. I fancy hoot's addition there is temporary. Hornplease 23:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
India's invasion of Portuguese Goa
Is that worth having an article of it's own? Does it have one and I'm just being blind? I'd like to contribute with someone about writing an article (if there isn't one already), but I don't feel as if I could do all by myself Speedboy Salesman 17:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
CANYOU rescue Pandit Todarmal - it is written in Indic script. --Montchav 11:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Paneru
the stub article Paneru is up for AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paneru with concerns over its veracity, any light on this topic will no doubt be welcome. Thanks. KTo288 18:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Kayastha Help
I think the
This article is unreferenced since June of 2006. The title itself looks odd to me and it is also tagged as an orphan. It has a Wikiproject India tag on it so I thought someone here might be able to clean it up and find at least one reference. Or maybe it should be merged/redirected to a better title. I am not sure what should be done with it.--BirgitteSB 20:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Churna is powder in Hindi, Bengali, Sanskrit and probably serveral other languages. This is English encyclopaedia and must have very less other language content. Moreover the content is not so good, title not according to MOS. The best solution is to delete this article. The most we can do is to have a redirect of Churna to Powder.Amartyabag TALK2ME 11:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking into this. I couldn't figure it out.--BirgitteSB 13:01, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Friends, I observed that articles on
An RfC on the appropriateness of an image in the Culture section of the WP:FA India
It would be very helpful if members of this project could weigh in on a dispute about the appropriateness of an image in the Culture section of the India page. The RfC is posted here. 22:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Article needed
Article needed: the sarangi player Ram Narayan. Badagnani 03:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation: Dhabol or Dabhol
A new article,
- The subject is the same. The new article should probably be made a redirect. — (talk)04:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Probably new article has come up due to confusion in romanisation of alphabate द from devanagari script द is pronounced like Th in The; While converting to romanised pronounciation some people get confused and try to write Dh which is wrong; now establish practice for while romanisation nouns whether it is pronounciation of D may represent either ड or द. Dh is more often represents for devanagari alphabate ढ
So Dabhol Power Company spelling is more correct and redirection from Dhabol power project to Dabhol Power Company is suggested
Mahitgar 17:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
(Who knows!)
- It should be 12:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Adding of a section Cityscape in the city aricles
Can we make a rule of adding a section Cityscape in the city articles like the Paris article. Pls. discuss in the Wikiproject Indian cities.
CC:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian cities Amartyabag TALK2ME 04:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Indo-Greek Kingdom
Merging Air India and Indian Airlines articles
In July 2007,
- I think it should be merged. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- It should not be merged as they are different organisations. --Redtigerxyz 12:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The template lists contains redlink districts which are not found on the
Bharat-Rakshak - RS or non-RS
I see Bharat Rakshak being used on several articles. Can somebody convince me that it is RS? Or I plan to start removing them. I took a peek here and the links detailing mainstream media coverage of BR certainly proves that they are 'notable'. But reliable? Who are these people who run that site? What are their credentials? Are they acknowldged experts in the field? Or are they just amateurs taking something seriously.. These are the things that concern me most. Also, the fact that some time back I'd seen them plagiarising content from wikipedia doesnt inspire confidence. Does anyone here have info about the people who run that site. Please come forward. Thanks. Sarvagnya 06:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Given the source, it could be considered reliable. "A reliable source is a published work regarded as trustworthy or authoritative in relation to the subject at hand. Evaluation of reliability will depend on the credibility of the author and the publication, along with consideration of the context. Reliable publications are those with an established structure for fact-checking and editorial oversight." See Origins for more information. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've seen that origins link already.. infact, it is mentioned in my message above. That page mentions a list of names. My question is, are those people acknowledged experts in the field or just a bunch of amateurs? If they are not experts, then BR is NOT RS. Sarvagnya 12:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- They do have people who interact with the military: "BR Correspondents" as they are called. I'm sure the Indian military would be well aware of BR, and in the case of an error or ommision, it could be corrected. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- What BR calls its contributors isnt of much consequence. I am, for example the "editor" of my blog. That doesnt make my blog RS. The only thing that matters is the credentials of these "correspondents". Are they experts or are they amateurs? If they are not experts, BR is not RS. Right? Sarvagnya 12:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Blogs are different. The site has comprehensive information in the Indian military. Given the nature of the source, there will be fact checking done. It cannot be termed as an A grade RS, maybe a B grade. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- No. There are several sites run by amateur enthusiasts which are fairly detailed. But, short of rewriting WP:RS, I dont see these sites qualify as RS. And talking of blogs, blogs are sites too. Just because somebody spends $7.99 on godaddy and another 19.99 on some hosting service, doesnt make their blogs RS. The way I see it, for purposes of WP:RS, BR is no more or no less than a blog. For that matter, wikipedia has extensive content too... doesnt make it RS. Does it? Sarvagnya12:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- No. There are several sites run by amateur enthusiasts which are fairly detailed. But, short of rewriting
- Blogs are different. The site has comprehensive information in the Indian military. Given the nature of the source, there will be fact checking done. It cannot be termed as an A grade RS, maybe a B grade. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- What BR calls its contributors isnt of much consequence. I am, for example the "editor" of my blog. That doesnt make my blog RS. The only thing that matters is the credentials of these "correspondents". Are they experts or are they amateurs? If they are not experts, BR is not RS. Right? Sarvagnya 12:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- They do have people who interact with the military: "BR Correspondents" as they are called. I'm sure the Indian military would be well aware of BR, and in the case of an error or ommision, it could be corrected. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've seen that origins link already.. infact, it is mentioned in my message above. That page mentions a list of names. My question is, are those people acknowledged experts in the field or just a bunch of amateurs? If they are not experts, then BR is NOT RS. Sarvagnya 12:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I am not aware of any criterion that says the authors have to be experts in their fields to have authored a reliable source. A reliable source would be one that is reputable, verifiable, and usually peer reviewed. BR publishes its own journal (magazine), the authors of the site have published a few books, especially on Indian aviation and history (amongst the few to have done so). I am also aware that in the past, BBC has posted BR articles as external or related contents link. BR certainly is very notable, and I would imagine that notabillity is not usually ascribed to inconsistent blogs, low quality and unreliable articles and authors of dubious credentials. Please also note that the BR links are permanent and verifiable references and sources and satisfies verifiabillity, a key wikipedia policy. It would be advisable not to remove these links from references, because in some cases (like the 1971 war) BR is amongst the few to have an extensive content and recognisable primary work and opinion. In addition, a number of the articles are sourced with permission from Sainik Samachar which is published by the Indian Ministry of Defence. I believe this satisfies wether BR is reliable or not.Rueben lys13:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)