Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/May 20

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  . Encouraging people everywhere to make their own drawing of Muhammad on May 20 the grassroots movement has gained widespread support as well as criticism even before the set date.

I have never proposed a change to this section before, and I assume this nomination is unusual in several respects. I still think this would be an interesting marker to present if the regulars can accept it. There is, I realize, also an issue with length, but I have suggested what I see is necessary and am open to deliberations. __

Comment: a bit early to describe it as an "anniversary", surely? ;-) I'd be happier seeing it in

WP:ITN, to be honest. TFOWR^propaganda 14:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Admittedly, but it's a designated "day" as good as any, and say, if the UN instituted an annual "LGBT Families Day" or whatever, I don't think the issue would be that it hadn't yet had time to become an anniversary.. __

talk) 16:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Right, but if the UN were to institute such a day, it would recur. So, partly my issue is that this isn't an anniversary yet, and partly because we don't yet know whether the event will recur - this may be a one-off. What were your thoughts on

WP:ITN, by the way? Given the controversy, I'd be fairly convinced that this will make ITN ;-) TFOWR^propaganda 16:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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• Oppose - This is not an anniversary yet, and it is likely that this event will only be of passing historical importance. In other words, OTD is not for current events that could not make the cut on ITN. かんぱい！
  talk) 17:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose this year - OTD isn't really the place for (so-far) one-time events. Those are more suited to ITN. If there's significant coverage of the event when May 20 rolls around next year then sure, I'd be up for supporting inclusion, despite the likelyhood of irritating Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells. And, I forget, did Boobquake make it onto ITN? GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 17:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• I think it was DYK.  f o x  09:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose OTD events from the current year (i.e. happening now). Take it to
  WP:ITN/C instead. Modest Genius ^talk 22:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply
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• Obviously, no Not an anniversary. A similar type of query came up on the UK election day. Why some regular editors still don't realize that OTD only features events in the past -- i.e. anniversaries -- is beyond me. And calling this an "observance" or "holiday" (to say nothing of a "holy day") would be a stretch, so it's probably not going in the first line next to the date either. -- tariqabjotu 23:08, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Nah. Per above, really, but this does look like a bit of an attempt to see how far
  WP:CENSOR will stretch...  f o x  09:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply
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  What do you mean? How does this stretch Wikipedia's existing practices? __

  talk) 15:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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  (edit conflict) Well, from my perspective, it looks like you're trying to make a point. -- tariqabjotu 15:54, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  I have no clue what you mean, and you don't do much to make is apparent either. __

  talk) 16:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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  You have no clue what I mean? Oh really? You essentially stated the point last month, when you nominated the South Park debacle for ITN...

  The Islamist onslaught on the core Western value of freedom of expression now has taken its latest toll as perhaps the least authority-conforming bastion also cowers to their terror strategy. I think South Park constitutes a milestone in this respect, and a very sad one indeed, one that warrants general attention.

  Replace South Park with "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" and switch a few words around and that's the point I'm talking about. -- tariqabjotu 16:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  If the matter isn't notable is will not get posted. I see no reason to recuse myself from nominating a story on a cause which I happen to support. Don't you also occupy yourself to a large degree with issues that interest you? What your comments indicate is that my suggestions are frivolous. I don't think that's called for. And your initial reference to

  talk) 16:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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  I never expected you to agree with opposition; if you did, surely you wouldn't have proposed this in the first place. I can imagine why Fox mentioned

  WP:CENSOR, but I never used it myself. -- tariqabjotu 16:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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  I'm sorry, I have been attributing the above post by User:Fox to you. I've been expecting you to clarify what that user meant which is obviously the wrong address. __

  talk) 19:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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With Pakistan now blocking Facebook over this thing, I have found the time right for nominating the issue at ITN. __

A much more appropriate venue for this. It will be an uphill battle, I imagine, so good luck. かんぱい！

talk) 16:16, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply

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• Moved to Ineligible: Complutense University of Madrid (maintenance)
• Omitted:
  Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia
  (ineligible—maintenance)
• Included: Battle of Lincoln (1217) (first appearance); Shakespeare's sonnets (first appearance); Levi Strauss (first appearance; blurb previously featured Levi Strauss & Co. (ineligible), last appeared in 2009); Luc Montagnier (first appearance)
• Repeats: East Timor (3rd consecutive appearance, 15 total (over multiple days))

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