Talk:Agatha (wife of Samuel of Bulgaria)
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Contradiction to Kosara of Bulgaria
Were these two actually a same person? It appears that both had born the same children:
Theodora Kosara, Miroslava and Gavril Radomir. All the best, --Biblbroks's talk 01:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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- Yes, the articles Agatha, wife of Samuel and Kosara of Bulgaria refer to a same person! I don't know where the name Kosara is taken from, but the name of this women traditionally is given as Agatha in the history sources - see Vindobonensis historia.74! --Nauka (talk) 08:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- Γαβριήλ ὁ και Ῥωμανὸς...., τεχθεὶς τῷ Σαμουηλ ἐξ Άγάθης τῆς θυγατρὸς Ὶωάννου τοῦ Χρυσηλιου τοῦ εν Δυρραχιῳ πρωτεὺοντος [Gavril, who was called also Roman,.. he was son of Agatha, the daughter of John Chrisilius, governor of Dyrrhachion] - John Skylitzes. Vindobonensis historia.74. 13-14 c. --Nauka (talk) 10:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)]
- Γαβριήλ ὁ και Ῥωμανὸς...., τεχθεὶς τῷ Σαμουηλ ἐξ Άγάθης τῆς θυγατρὸς Ὶωάννου τοῦ Χρυσηλιου τοῦ εν Δυρραχιῳ πρωτεὺοντος [Gavril, who was called also Roman,.. he was son of
- In contemporary Bulgaria, the name Agatha is popular as the name of the writer Agatha Christie. K. Ali 17:32, 27 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karim Ali (talk • contribs)
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Since we know she was daughter of John Chryselios is there a reason this page name uses her husband to differentiate her and not her family name? 50.37.124.206 (talk) 21:11, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- The article makes clear that her being a daughter of Chryselios is not 100% certain, and at any rate, the family name is nowhere attested in connection with her. The only secure family link is her husband. Constantine ✍ 21:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 6 December 2016
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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. (non-admin closure) Bradv 22:08, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Agatha, wife of Samuel of Bulgaria → Agatha (wife of Samuel of Bulgaria) – Not a royal title; must be parenthesized. Or maybe use Agatha, Empress of Bulgaria instead. George Ho (talk) 19:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Support per nomination. Subject's entry in Agatha, wife of Edward the Exile. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:28, 12 December 2016 (UTC)]
- Support - As per nomination. - Boneyard90 (talk) 10:42, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support move to parenthesized form. Her title as empress is uncertain, since she probably died before Samuel formally assumed the title of Tsar, and her notability is not such that a move to simple "Agatha" would be justified. Constantine ✍ 14:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose, a comma does not mean it is a royal title. This comma is a descriptive natural disambiguation, which is preferred over parenthetical disambiguation. The growing affection for unnatural parentheses is silly. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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