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Where do the Vedas mention Āryāvarta? As far as I can see, it's mentioned in the smriti, specifically the Dharmashastras, not in the Vedas. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:09, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't Darius the Great of Persia specifically refer to himself as Ariya-ciča meaning "Aryan Bread"? Shadzad (talk) 10:52, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

can 5.47.72.119 (talk) 21:57, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Which is to say it absolutely was used to refer to ones genes, ie race? Shadzad (talk) 10:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You mean "bred"? Even if that's the case, it could mean caste, tribe, or similar, which is not equivalent. FunkMonk (talk) 09:12, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from User talk:Joshua Jonathan#Why

To answer the question you asked here. I would mention that the lead was written after long discussion per here by multiple experienced editors and probably you were there too. I was only restoring this edit. The lead was unilaterally modified recently on here with a dubious edit summary. This is why I restored established lead version.

Can you restore my edit?

Well, you also reverted corrections to the lead, with your wholesale revert. The discussion from november 2015 was about Mallory; what you reinserted was the following about de Gobineau's ideas:

Drawing on misinterpreted references in the

Nazi racial ideology which saw the "Aryan race" as innately superior to other putative racial groups.^[1] The atrocities committed in the name of this racial ideology have led academics to avoid the term "Aryan", which has been replaced in most cases by "Indo-Iranian", with only the South Asian branch still being called "Indo-Aryan".^[2]