Talk:Elisabeth Noelle-Neumann

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The section about Noelle-Neumann's personal life may be written with a higher gender perspective. It talks more about Noelle-Neumann's husbands and beliefs than about herself. In her husband's article, there is no reference about Noelle-Neumann (see Heinz Maier-Leibnitz), while they both were relevant and well known researchers. Wen we write about women, we tend to talk about the men behind them and about their feelings, superstitions and beliefs; whereas women are not usually named in articles about a man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilmartinlop (talk • contribs) 10:05, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

see German page, of course

I think the section about the allegations of anti Semitism is way too long. This is an article about Noelle-Neumann and not about a single indivdual's criticism; it's mot an article about Leo Bogart. 217.236.178.107 (talk) 23:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article says 'In 1940 she briefly worked for the Nazi newspaper Das Reich. On 8 June 1941 Das Reich published Noelle-Neumann's article entitled "Who Informs America?" in which she propagated the myth that a Jewish syndicate ran the American media. She wrote, "Jews write in the paper, own them, have virtually monopolized the advertising agencies and can therefore open and shut the gates of advertising income as they wish."'

What she wrote is no myth and it is a lie when you deny it, because you know it as well. She is a brilliant social scientist and has never taken anything back that she has written. Many people are aware that Jews dominate the media and have done so for at least the last 100 years. The evidence is overwhelming and available for anyone with the guts to read about it and do a little research. Of course it's denied in all the mainstream media because it's not good for Jews if their readers know the publishers of the paper have a reason to give slanted news about Israel, Germany, WW II, Palestine and many other topics.

Here is someone else that knew this very well, in addition to Lindbergh and many other people.

In early 1938 the Polish ambassador to the US, Jerzy Potocki reported back to Warsaw on his observations of the American political scene. In a remarkable statement from Germany's arch enemy, here was a man that desired peace:

The pressure of the Jews on President Roosevelt and on the State Department is becoming ever more powerful… The Jews are right now the leaders in creating a war psychosis which would plunge the entire world into war and bring about general catastrophe. This mood is becoming more and more apparent. In their definition of democratic states, the Jews have also created real chaos; they have mixed together the idea of democracy and communism, and have above all raised the banner of burning hatred against Nazism.

This hatred has become a frenzy. It is propagated everywhere and by every means: in theaters, in the cinema, and in the press. The Germans are portrayed as a nation living under the arrogance of Hitler which wants to conquer the whole world and drown all of humanity in an ocean of blood. In conversations with Jewish press representatives, I have repeatedly come up against the inexorable and convinced view that war is inevitable. This international Jewry exploits every means of propaganda to oppose any tendency towards any kind of consolidation and understanding between nations. In this way, the conviction is growing steadily but surely in public opinion here that the Germans and their satellites, in the form of fascism, are enemies who must be subdued by the ‘democratic world.’ (February 9) 32

On January 12, 1939 Ambassador Potocki reported back to Warsaw:

The feeling now prevailing in the United States is marked by a growing hatred of Fascism and, above all, of Chancellor Hitler and everything connected with Nazism. Propaganda is mostly in the hands of the Jews, who control almost 100 percent radio, film, daily and periodical press. Although this propaganda is extremely coarse and presents Germany as black as possible—above all religious persecution and concentration camps are exploited—this propaganda is nevertheless extremely effective, since the public here is completely ignorant and knows nothing of the situation in Europe. …

Some people do not understand German nor speak it. Thus, many of us do not know how to pronounce some German names.

I don't know if Elisabeth Noelle-Neumann would be something like /eˈlɪ.sa.bɛt ˈnø.lə ˈnɔɪ̯.man/, but it would be cool if someone could make it clear in the beginning, such as in maaaaaany other pages. Thank you very much! 83.34.11.161 (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The section on allegations of antiSemitism is longer than everything else combined. She's notable for coming up with the 'spiral of silence' concept, not for briefly writing for a Nazi paper, or being criticized for doing so. Since there's already a lengthy entry for "spiral of silence" i'm not sure what else one could put in here to balance things out. only way i can see around this is trimming the allegations section - we don't need a blow-by-blow - unless someone has a better idea? Nonononocat (talk) 20:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At the top of the article it says some content could be added from the German entry on her - does anyone who reads German want to do this? If she was getting hounded out of professorships in the US she clearly held some serious academic positions in Germany first. That's barely mentioned here. LeviaThinMint (talk) 20:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"She declined, having fallen ill, which angered Goebbels; she later became a newspaper journalist with Nazi publications where she wrote some articles on Jewish influence over U.S. news and elite opinion."... While it is not implausible. How do we know that this "angered Goebbels"? 105.0.7.166 (talk) 12:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]