Talk:Katerina Tikhonova

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I disagree with MarkYabloko's contention that this article is in violation of WP:BLPGOSSIP. The sources are solid, especially the Reuters article. The Reuters article did a pretty in-depth investigation and goes a lot further in its claims and directly states that Katerina is Putin's daughter, but I chose to be more conservative in my wording. Fraenir (talk) 06:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Fraenir (talk) for your feedback.

Wikipedia talk page is specifically for this purpose, which is great!

Please take a look at this wikipedia article and let me know what you think:

WP:WITS Wikipedia is a tertiary source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_a_tertiary_source

MarkYabloko 06:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"...that is as close as possible to the primary source(s) on the described topic." - are you referring to this bit, that I shouldn't call it a rumor and directly state that she is his daughter? Fraenir (talk) 06:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, it can not be rumors, or as hard to believe, can not even be based on primary source(s) only, as stated above.

Please do not feel discouraged; we all at Wikipedia appreciate the time and efforts of contributors just like yourself. MarkYabloko 08:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I have no idea what you're saying here. Can you explain how this article, as written, is violating "Wikipedia is a tertiary source"? ThanksFraenir (talk) 08:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem Fraenir (talk), I am just referring you to Wikipedia's article WP:WITS Wikipedia is a tertiary source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_a_tertiary_source saying that:

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia

Wikipedia's main namespace is an encyclopedia and thus a tertiary source.

Wikipedia is not a primary source

Wikipedia avoids describing topics that never have been described before — doing otherwise qualifies as performing original research. Unsourced eyewitness accounts or other unsourced information obtained from personal experience should not be added to articles, as this would cause Wikipedia to become a primary source for the added information (see Wikipedia:Verifiability).

Wikipedia is not a secondary source

Wikipedia does not offer interpretations or analyses that deviate from previously published interpretations and analyses — doing otherwise qualifies as performing original research.

Wikipedia is a tertiary source

Wikipedia summarizes descriptions, interpretations and analyses that are found in secondary sources, and/or bases such summaries on tertiary sources. Wikipedia illustrates such summaries and descriptions with material that is as close as possible to the primary source(s) on the described topic.

Does this help a little? MarkYabloko 08:51, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not really - you just copy and pasted directly from that WikiPage. I don't think I'm in violation of that here. Fraenir (talk) 08:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that was not much help to you Fraenir (talk). I copied and pasted from Wikipedia article to insure that you get an objective reasoning. MarkYabloko 11:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• This is something everyone knows and has been published everywhere. Please see same page on ruwiki. A plenty of English language sources as well [1], [2]. Some Russian sources: [3]. My very best wishes (talk) 23:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They all quote Reuters.. Which means there is still only one source. Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 09:49, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Katerina surnamed Tikhonova instead of Putina or Shamalova? 179.53.101.223 (talk) 16:06, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

her corrupt dwarf dad has kept his entire family secret, so she can have any last name. In RuNet they say that this is the surname of her grandmother.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.41.98.171 (talk) 14:12, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply] 

She was divorced in 2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.138.180 (talk) 11:19, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Katerina Tikhonova, Vladimir Putin's daughter.jpg

You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 12:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What makes her

• She is a quite important businesswoman at least nominally and one of a rumored heirs for the position of Russian President. There is also a significant coverage. I am all for creating
  Vladimir Spiridonovich Putin, Lyudmila Putina, Maria Vorontsova, Alina Kabaeva, etc. with brief summaries and main articles correspondent to each of the personage. Alex Bakharev (talk) 03:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• She has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of her, so meets
  WP:GNG. There is too much information in this article to cram into a section of a 'family of Putin' article. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 15:21, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
  ]