Talk:Louise Michel

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With some references, it could be a B.

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I've translated some bits of this from fr:Louise Michel. It would be good if someone could check this at some stage and check that I haven't lost any important nuances - I'm not at all familiar with this person, so I could be making stuff up. :) Stevage 08:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it Théophile Ferré, not Ferr?--Mr. RX99 20:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)(wasn't signed in, so I changed my signature from the IP address)- Whoops, its Theodore. The names look pretty familiar. Sorry.[reply]

Edited the social legacy section for grammar, per request from translation page. I tried to stay true to the French article, but it seems that both versions of this article are somewhat unbiased; i.e. they lavish praise on Michel. Also, I'm not sure that a physical description of her or the information about her male friends is particularly relevant to hre social legacy. Audball 21:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know that it's just translated from the French, but the social legacy section is pretty poor. It repeats information from earlier: 'she is often referred to as "Bonne Louise" (Good Louise)'; It contains wild and almost certainly untrue, or at least very ethnocentric statements: 'She was, with George Sand, one of the rare women of the 19th century to have worn male clothing at one stage of her life'; there's opinion: 'it is without the slightest doubt her courage which best characterises her personality', 'How appropriate, thus, that she now represents in the memories and unconscious of the people' and it's totally unreferenced. Anyway, I guess that she had a social legacy, so there should be something written here, but I don't know enough about her to write it, so just flagging it for others to fix. Joelphillips 18:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To which I would like to add that "Bonne Louise" may have been used ironically. The prefix "Bonne" is often used in a derogatory way, "good" really meaning "bad". So the context in which it was used should be looked at very carefully. JHvW 00:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this the correct cemetery?

On the article it mentions: "She was with the Communards who made their last stand in the cemetery of Montmartre". This article mentions: Thiers was buried in Cimetière du Père Lachaise, an ironic resting place since one of the bloodiest battles of the Commune took place within the cemetery walls. Also this source mentions cemetery Cimetière du Père Lachaise as the one were the last battle of the commune took place. Kantale (talk) 22:56, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Although I can understand the argument, I believe it contains some flaws. But I know too little about the actual facts, so you may indeed be right. Louise Michel was good friends with the mayor of Montmartre. She was also a member of the Monmartre batallion. There are historical accounts that she was seen on the barricades in Montmartre, so the Montmartre Cemetery is a logical place for the last stand. I also believe that the irony you are referring to is not as much a battle but the fact that many Communards were shot as traitors against what is now known as the "Mur des Féderés", a wall in Père Lachaise cemetery, which still exists, near the extermination camp memorials. It is also mentioned that she was allied with Theophile Ferré, although the French claim that she was in love with him and was angered by his execution. Louise Michel has also been classified as an anarchist while I feel that she was more an early days suffragette and social reformer. The current location of her grave (with a lovely bust) is near the grave of Theophile Ferré in the named cemetery, so they are near each other in the afterlife (if any). Many graves of controversial Frenchmen have been defaced over the years. But the graves of people like Thiers and Laval were in pretty good condition when I saw them in 2009.JHvW 23:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Needs more citations

There are many passages in this fascinating biography which lack inline citations. It would bolster the article's credibility if some references can be found to back up the statements.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:12, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Social legacy

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Michel was greatly admired for her association with the Paris Commune. From her death until 1916, a demonstration was held every year at her tomb at Levallois-Perret.

A legendary figure of the labour movement, adept at inciting crowds to act, Michel is often described in language more commonly used for saints and heretics: e.g. "Bonne Louise" (Good Louise) and "Vierge rouge" (Red Virgin).

She was, with George Sand, one of the rare women of the 19th century to have worn male clothing at one stage of her life.

Michel's literary legacy consists of a few theoretical essays and some poems, legends and tales, including some for children. Perhaps the best known of these works is her thousand-page novel "La misère" (Poverty), which denounced the social crisis of the suburbs long before it was recognized as a problem.

Although primarily remembered for her militant activism, i.e., for her so-called "Social Revolution", her name is frequently given to primary and secondary schools in French towns. She thus has an implicit image in French culture as France's school teacher.

On May 1, 1946, the Parisian

Louise Michel (Paris Métro)
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In 1975, the courtyard in front of the

Basilica of Sacré-Coeur in Montmartre
, Paris was named in Louise Michel's honor. The sign at the gate proclaims her a "Heroine of the Commune".

In 2005, the hundredth anniversary of her death was celebrated. During the celebration, two seminars paid homage to the "bonne Louise," notably the important March seminar "Louise Michel, figure of transversality" (led by Valérie Morignat), organized by the mayor of Paris and the cultural association Actazé. This event brought together 22 Louise Michel specialists.

Dumping some removed, unsourced content here. I figured that someone might want to follow up on these claims in a later draft, but we don't leave unsourced info in articles. czar 08:44, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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