User talk:Briannemartindale

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Hi Briannemartindale! I am wondering about the large number of ancestry snippets you are adding today. Is there a consensus that all these are necessary? I notice that several times you have been reverted by Ealdgyth and maybe others, reason being that it's too much detail and unsourced. I suggest, under the circumstances, it might be best for you to seek some agreement from the community that going back to someone's great great grandparents is worthwhile (i suspect it isn't, and i also suspect i'm not the only person to think so). Any questions, please feel free to ask! Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 22:51, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

i primarily work as genealogist as a hobby

some pages have them and some don't and i am contributing my part that i know well

i will soon be adding pages of missing people for nobility and royalty

i know that other people who work on their family tree on different sites use ancestry snippets and wiki pages in general for ready access and easy information without having to look at many different websites or books

with the recent death of elizabeth ii of england and her son charles iii taking the throne there are more people now taking more interest in royalty and nobility especially in england

if we were all interested in the same thing the world would be boring

each person contributes a different part to create a wiki world and i am just doing my part because i believe in giving my gifts and talents for free so other people may enjoy them as well

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of spamming unnecessary, unsourced, and undiscussed ancestry table(s) into articles, your time would be better served learning what a

i am now fixing any source issues but my ancestry tables are not the only ones with unsourced sections which i am also fixing as well

there are bigger issues of unsourced and misinformation on many medical pages including the pgad persistant genital arousal disorder page among other medical pages Briannemartindale (talk) 16:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your additions violate

WP:NOTGENEALOGY. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

i am only doing this for nobility and royalty

i would not do it for obama biden gandhi or people of the like Briannemartindale (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

many people don't care about the genealogy of a prime minister of england or a president of a country so i am not doing that ether

many people do care about the genealogy of royalty and nobility

if i am worried about what other people think of me then there is something wrong with me

i have given my answers but i will not continue to answer to the critics when i have already answered the topic from others

thank you for understanding brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 16:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, i think you are entirely missing the point. Yes, you must "continue to answer to [

WP:CONSENSUS. Otherwise, i fear, you may find yourself blocked through your unwillingness to participate in the community and by our standards. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 17:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

if there is an issue with ahnentafel s then all should be removed and banned or quit removing people's knowledge and work and they need to be left up to be fair or else it is discrimination where only some people earn an ahnentafel and some people are not good enough to earn one

if you disagree with me please speak to me directly and i will leave wiki for good knowing that people don't like my help and years of knowledge and my degree in library technology

thank you brianne martindale

Briannemartindale (talk) 18:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

if there is an issue with ahnentafel s then all should be removed and banned or quit removing people's knowledge and work and they need to be left up to be fair or else it is discrimination where only some people earn an ahnentafel and some people are not good enough to earn one

if you disagree with me please speak to me directly and i will leave wiki for good knowing that people don't like my help and years of knowledge and my degree in library technology

thank you brianne martindale

Briannemartindale (talk) 18:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is not an issue with ahnentafel tables ~ personally i like them, i find them easy to read, and genealogy is one of my true loves. The issue is with the way that you are editing; i don't think you have read ~ certainly not taken to heart ~ anything that Kansas Bear or i have written here, and that will cause you trouble. No one wants you to quit or leave WP for good; what we want is for you to join the community, accept our standards, and edit productively as part of that community. The result of not doing so would be a pity. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 19:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a steep learning curve here, we know that and try to work around it and help newcomers; that's why you were given a welcoming template above with a large number of very helpful links for you to follow. We want you to succeed, but you have to do your part. Please, ask, here or at my talk page, and i will do my best to help, as will others. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 19:40, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

due to everyone's behavior i am thinking about leaving because only two people have given me a warm welcome and i do not wish to stay where i am not fully welcomed

i am also adding sources to the ahnentafel 's but even the sourced ones are getting removed

plus if people are going to constantly remove my work then that tells me i am not welcome here and that i need to leave

i am willing to contribute but i am only going to contribute what i know and what my expertise is in which means i will not contribute to an article on plasma or tigers but will contribute to robert ii of france and james iv of scotland

thank you brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 19:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection

.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

i have done nothing wrong and others are removing my work and when i undo the removal the same people are undoing my undo which means these people are wanting a edit war which i want no part of

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 02:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ahnentafel

@Kansas Bear@Ealdgyth@Lindsayh@Surtsicna

question you have been removing my ahnentafels but other ahnentafels by other people are getting to stay up

please do not bite a newcomer

if you don't like my sources please add your own without removing my ahnentafels

you are also engaging in an edit war with me which i want no part of and did not intend to start

i do not mind if you remove my sources and you add your own that is fine but what upsets me is the removal of the ahnentafels

i am asking for you leave my ahnentafels up for others to enjoy and use if they wanted to

ahnentafels are some of my contributions to wiki since that is part of my expertise

plus when i was working on my family tree i appreciated the ahnentafels and it helped me out very much so and i believe it helps others who want to use ahnentafels to work on genealogy or school projects/papers to get students or general public on a starting point on their journey

if you have problem with my ahnentafels then please remove all ahnentafels on all pages

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 02:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
• If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Robert II of France, you may be blocked from editing. Eric ^talk 10:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Eric

i have tried to peacefully speak with the person but the person is refusing to listen to me and i don't know what to do

this is not the only person who is doing this to me as well there are several others and i have tried to speak with all but have been unsuccessful and i am in need of severe help

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 15:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:LINK in general), thank you! Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 23:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

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@Felida97@Eric

have a blessed day in the name of Jesus Christ

please leave me alone and not bother me or say that i am disruptive editing when i am doing what i can to improve wiki that would be appricated

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 00:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:OVERLINK. You're not improving Wikipedia by deliberately going against the MoS and doing so repeatedly is definitely considered disruptive. Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

@Felida97

i did review that and i will work on that thanks

as i have previously requested please leave me alone and not bother me or say that i am disruptive editing when i am doing what i can to improve wiki that would be appreciated

have a blessed day in the name of Jesus Christ

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 01:06, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

Hello Briannemartindale,

Instead of creating a new section at ANI, why not create a new one at the

talk) 01:05, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

That is bad advice, per

WP:FORUMSHOP. We don't need the same discussion spread over multiple pages. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

Sure was. Sorry about the confusion.

talk) 01:38, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

Another valuable resource for Briannemartindale would be the

Contact me | Contributions). 02:36, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

Also, now with the ANI post closed, I would like to debrief on one reply you posted before it did: i just want peace on wiki again. Please note that it was never the intent for anyone who contacted you; not me, nor even the editors who issued final warnings; to antagonise you. It may seem like such in the heat of the moment; what with everyone suddenly complaining about your additions and reverting them; but in the end, they are doing so not because they want to "one up" on you and see you blocked, but because they are concerned that such material is not of value to Wikipedia; for example, because it contradicts

a policy we have on duplicate links

.

Key takeaways that will be important from here on out; one, that you should know essential policies and guidelines we have before being bold. Boldness is a key attribute, but not one that should be employed without caution. Again,

Contact me | Contributions). 03:09, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

@TheDragonFire300

the question i have is why are my ahnentafels getting removed when other ahnentafels with no sources are being left alone

many edits i have made were to improve wiki but have been taken down and by the same few people which is what bothers me

many random people is fine but the same few people is where the problem is

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 03:20, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TheDragonFire300

there is no policy on ahnentafels as long as they are acurate

and linking wiki pages seams to be an issue as well

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 03:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the response below from Quisqualis to find out why it was removed; namely, that it is original research. Regards,

Contact me | Contributions). 07:51, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

]

Wikipedia concepts you may not have read about yet

As an

expert editor

who "wishes to give my knowledge for free" and seems to be having a hard time here, let me recommend that you study a few Wikipedia concepts for which ignorance may spell trouble:

• Original research
  (not allowed on Wikipedia; edits should be based on

WP:reliable sources, not on what you know)

• Citing reliable sources
  (for every fact you add to Wikipedia)
• Wikipedia cannot be loaded up with every fact known on a subject

(Encyclopedia articles should not be compendiums of indiscriminate facts)

• WP:DUE
  (an article should not overemphasize one aspect of a topic (e.g., genealogy) beyond what is considered reasonable proportion)
• Other stuff exists
  (The other substandard articles on Wikipedia don't :justify any more substandard articles)
• WP:CONSENSUS
  (Everything on Wikipedia is achieved by consensus with other editors, and casting aspersions on other editors is only fighting)
• the five pillars of Wikipedia
  (the basic rules under which Wikipedia functions)

Quisqualis (talk) 03:32, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Helpful advice for non-academic experts

Help:Wikipedia_editing_for_non-academic_experts has some good suggestions for an avid amateur genealogist like yourself! --Quisqualis (talk) 17:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Briannemartindale, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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@Light hearted sam

thanks for being nice since so few has welcomed me or has been nice to me

my problem that i am having is the ahnentafels

they are getting removed while others created by others are staying up even if they have no sources with them but mine are getting removed immediately

my primary research area is nobility of europe primarily england scotland ireland wales and royalty of the world

thanks brianne martindale Briannemartindale (talk) 04:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @

WP:OR) Light hearted sam (talk) 12:17, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply

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